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Subject: Re: The Death Penalty – the most controversial of subjects


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Chuckie
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Date Posted: 08:25:32 06/11/01 Mon
In reply to: kat 's message, "Re: The Death Penalty – the most controversial of subjects" on 06:31:37 06/11/01 Mon

>My understanding is that Mcveigh was responding to the
>events at Waco, where women and children died as a
>result of government action. Is anyone currently on
>death row for their deaths? Is anyone in prison? Or
>is this another example of 'acceptable' state
>sanctioned violence?

What happened at Waco was a horrible disaster. Of course, no one points a finger at the insane man who set the whole thing in motion - David Koresh.

The thing that bothers me the most about people who say it's always the evil government's fault when this happens is they (conveniently?) forget about the law. If a deputy of the law serves you with a warrent, is it your right as a citizen to tell that deputy to take a hike? "Get lost, cop. I don't have to go with you if I don't want to." -- like that?

I just don't agree that anarchy is a better choice.

>Of course not. Although some of the agencies
>responsible for Waco were based in that building.
>Interestingly, very few of them turned up to work on
>the day of the bombing. Nor did they warn their
>fellow office workers that a very real threat to the
>building existed.

Mmmm. And I've heard the Easter Bunny was involved in Kennedy's assignation.

These are regular people you're slandering - accusing them of collusion with murderers - not evil comic book creatures.

>Something has to break the cycle of violence and
>violence will not do it. Civilisation should not be
>judged by how quickly, how effectively it silences its
>opponents and surgically culls it's problems, but by
>how well it deals with the most vulnerable members of
>the community - we turn our backs on them at our own
>peril. When we allow the state to murder on our
>behalf, we are all dehumanized.
>
>kat.

I agree with you that there needs to be a better way to solve this problem. But I disagree with your use of the phrase "state murder". Murder is an illegal act of one person killing another. Until y'all come over here and change our laws to suit you, it's still a legal execution we're talking about.

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