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Date Posted: 08:26:13 02/12/05 Sat
Author: Shane
Subject: Re: lack of information...I don't think so!
In reply to: Chris 's message, "Re: "The worse the war, the bigger the party"..." on 21:18:38 02/08/05 Tue

*Regarding Moon,Moon is NOT a mainstream figure in American society. You all are giving him far too much credit. "Moonies" as well call them are the subject of jokes and ridicule among mainstream America. I wouldn't worry about him, this false messiah is old and will soon die.(like another false messiah we all know) And then his 'empire' will fall like the falling rain in spring. (Just like another organization we know)

I'd like to address this "lack of information" point brought up by Chris. Chris, nothing could be further from the truth. Unlike Canada and Europe which only provide the extreme liberal point of view, America offers coverage from various points of view. You can take your pick FOX, CNN, MSNBC along with many others.

The problem I have with our European "allies" is that they are in a defeatist mode and refuse to stand up to evil. And when they finally do want to stand up to evil, the have the U.S. do the heavy lifting.(SEE SERBIA) THe United States had the legal right to do what it did. Saddam Hussien violated every treaty he made with the U.S. (end of first gulf war) In addition, I find it interesting how Europeans love to clain the U.N. as a source of authority but when a guy like Hussien breaks every resolution coming out of the security council the Europeans want to do nothing about it. Not only that but you have countries like FRANCE and RUSSIA that collaborate with Hussien and work AGAISNT the very sancations that the UN implements.(oil for food scandal)

The U.S. did not use "brute force". Let me tell you what brute force is....brute force would be using nuclear weapons on every major city in Iraq. Instead, AMerica used 'smart' bombs to pipoint goverment buildings where Hussien might be located. This greatly limited damage to Iraq infrastructure. When the terrorists were hiding out in Fallujah, brute force would have said 'we are going to carpet bomb every sqare section of Fallujah' instead America goes house to house to try and find those responsible. War is ugly, but America has made a good faith effort to try and limit number of casulties, this strategy at the cost of American lives. I guess to many Europeans ANY action of the military is "brute force".

In the end, if Europeans had their way, Hussien stays in power..the rape rooms, the genocide and the "brute force" of Hussien continues. Oh..and yess...France, Russia and Kofi Annan continue to make millions of dollars off the suffering of innocent Iraq's. Yes, what a beautiful world the Europeans would bring us!







>In Europe we say (half-admiring, half-disgusting) that
>"everything is possible" in the US. I think one of the
>problems is that Americans - I hope you are not
>offended - often seem to be not enough informed about
>problems and interconnectedness of problems. It is a
>lack of information and knowledge. The war against the
>Iraq showed that pretty well. Even the most positive
>observer cannot deny the problem that the whole war
>was based on a wrong assumption - that Mr. Hussein was
>in posession of weapons of mass destruction and a
>threat to the whole world, which simply was not true
>at all. Also, and even worse, they seem to be
>completely ignorant of the mindset of the Islamic
>world. If America wants to be save, they have to win
>the minds of the majority of Muslims, so that Islamic
>terrorism is already proscribed and followed in the
>homelands of the terrorists. Instead, they produced
>even more fanatic US haters. I could go on and on, it
>often simply boils down to a lack of information and
>understanding of the underlying things, and then the
>problems are solved "brute force."
>
>We don't know whether George W. is really ignorant
>about Moon or whether he or his family including his
>daddy draw political or financial advantages from the
>connection with Moon. Anyway, what is shocking is that
>Bush's senior staff and the Christian public both seem
>to be completely ignorant and indifferent of this
>problem, too, even after Moon's "coronary" and the
>"tear down the cross" campaign.

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