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] Date Posted: 15/02/07 18:28 In reply to: sweetsong 's message, "course - initiation" on 15/02/07 9:41 I think the infolinks provided by WW above are quite illuminating, even for those who have seen the links between +ive / -ive thinking and illness. I am especially enamoured of the research of Dr Masaru Emoto, and the results of his experiments have been invaluable in proving links between not just +/-ive behaviour and thoughts, but actual words! SS, I understand illness and depression. I have witnessed terminal illness within my family, and experienced suicidal depression personally for over 12 years. The only way out for me was to break any ties of dependency - such a fight [for one's own soul] is a personal one, and as individuals we need to summon the strength of will and character to enter into what can be a long fight. Self-pity is a killer, as is the belief that the answer to our personal problems lie in another's hands. Paganism, as a belief system, is not an answer to the travails we face in life, but,[for some] is an expression of worship and wonder towards that which created and surrounds us in this life. Aspects of our chosen belief system may be used at times as 'armour' in our battles, whatever they may be, but it is WE who need to be the warriors, WE who need to take hold of our lives and destinies, and shape them... Blackhawk [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: zenwind [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15/02/07 19:58 Dearest sweetsong, I do not believe any religion, spiritual path, psychological technique, healing ritual or medicine is a panacea - they can only ever be a guide. The only authority in your life is YOU. The true teacher is YOU. Nobody can tell you about YOUR life as it unfolds uniquely for you which is why conversations like this are SO hard especially on message boards. I have the idea that everything coming back at you today just doesn't make you feel understood. And really all we can do is hold that space for you where we listen....and it makes you think: well if they don't know then who the hell does know....YOU - you know that your experience is everything. I have experienced depression and did not want to get out of bed for weeks. I felt like a boat alone on the ocean that was slowly sinking while everyone else was swimming in the sea, having fun not even knowing how I felt. So I kind of know a bit about how things feel...or how they felt for me at least. I find life really painful sometimes and I also find it incredibly beautiful - like a balm surrounds me - friends, loved ones, my connectedness with mother earth. I look on it as my teacher, it teaches me how to respond, it helps me find the essence within me to take one step at at time and stop and smell the flowers. Like the lotus...look what emerges from all that mud (not quite appropriate for me as I think mud is beautiful but you get my drift). Grist for the mill. Nobody can know what it is like for you SS, we only have our own frames of reference from which to meet you. Is that our fault? No of course not.... but we are all trying to hear you and listen....I think we are trying really hard. Take care sweetsong and stick around. You know my e mail off list zenwind [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |