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Subject: Re: course - initiation


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zenwind
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Date Posted: 15/02/07 19:58
In reply to: sweetsong 's message, "course - initiation" on 15/02/07 9:41

Dearest sweetsong,

I do not believe any religion, spiritual path, psychological technique, healing ritual or medicine is a panacea - they can only ever be a guide. The only authority in your life is YOU. The true teacher is YOU. Nobody can tell you about YOUR life as it unfolds uniquely for you which is why conversations like this are SO hard especially on message boards.

I have the idea that everything coming back at you today just doesn't make you feel understood. And really all we can do is hold that space for you where we listen....and it makes you think: well if they don't know then who the hell does know....YOU - you know that your experience is everything.

I have experienced depression and did not want to get out of bed for weeks. I felt like a boat alone on the ocean that was slowly sinking while everyone else was swimming in the sea, having fun not even knowing how I felt. So I kind of know a bit about how things feel...or how they felt for me at least.

I find life really painful sometimes and I also find it incredibly beautiful - like a balm surrounds me - friends, loved ones, my connectedness with mother earth. I look on it as my teacher, it teaches me how to respond, it helps me find the essence within me to take one step at at time and stop and smell the flowers. Like the lotus...look what emerges from all that mud (not quite appropriate for me as I think mud is beautiful but you get my drift). Grist for the mill.

Nobody can know what it is like for you SS, we only have our own frames of reference from which to meet you. Is that our fault? No of course not.... but we are all trying to hear you and listen....I think we are trying really hard.

Take care sweetsong and stick around.
You know my e mail off list
zenwind

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Dragonlady
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Date Posted: 15/02/07 20:01

"thank you but i feel i need to express about my illness and not to be told i am negative or judged or told to pull my socks up. it is a part of me and a huge journey. some days i am negative but i try not to reject myself when i am. the whole of me needs to be embraced and honoured and loved. the lack of understanding of mental illness is everywhere of course why i expect it to be different here shows my naivity."

And I don't particularly like to be told that I am patronising and judgemental when that is the very last thing I am, but I actually let that go. Sometimes people can get just a little fed up of someone constantly expressing about their illness, when they all have their own problems.

As Whitewolf said, we shall also have to agree to disagree and I, for one, will say no more on this subject.

Dragonlady

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