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] Date Posted: 19/02/07 21:33 In reply to: sweetsong 's message, "course - initiation" on 15/02/07 9:41 have come in here at late stage so really i know the meat of the conversation has gone but i just wanted to say that 1 - The Galdraheim coven is a well established coven thats been in existance since the 70s and some covens do 'advertise' that they have openings. 2 - A coven exists to teach the student/neophyte how to work magickaly as a wiccan as well as worship. If you want to celebrate the seasons and worship then moots, open circles, pagan groups etc are best. I always taught my coveners that magick is more personal even than sex, because you are opening your soul and psyche to another person. This is why the phrase 'in perfect love and perfect trust' is used. And this is why people with mental health problems are often unfortunately excluded. The actual processes involve deep inner work that can bring up the most painful as well as beautiful experiences and the teacher is accountable karmically as well as practically for the student.It can make someones symptoms worse - especially as to learn magickally one has to journey into the shadow/deep self and may come face to face with aspects of themselves they have managed to hide before. Im sorry that sweetsong has felt upset by this but there are good valid reasons for it, and a coven leader would not take the karmic responsibility for possibly making her condition worse. That is why most covens will not accept people with these types of illnesses. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: zenwind [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19/02/07 22:07 Hi, Nice post Rae. To draw parallels sweetsong (if you are lurking) so you do not think this is specific to wicca.....in certain traditions of buddhism, the cautions are similar. Especially something like tantra. My practice does not involve opening psychically to others but when I experience certain 'jhanas' as they are alluded to in buddhism, it can be quite frightening aswell as very joyful, and from my point of view is best undertaken with some kind of guidance or supportive community to check in with. A credible buddhist teacher for example that knew someone was experiencing mental health difficulties would not advise you undertake deep absortion types of meditation in terms of meditation practice but may advise certain other practices with careful supervision. And other aspects of spiritual community and practice would still be open to you as in pagan paths. I think this is common sense. You need support and care and responsible people around you so your heart is cradled and you remain safe. may you be happy and well.... peace zenwind [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |