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Acid is a long-acting drug. It stays in the body 6 to 15 hoursTrusted Source. Most acid trips won’t last more than 9 hours.

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TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 15:48:43 01/11/18 Thu [8]

this is now published and copyrighted by PEAFOWL TODAY magazine (United Peafowl Association) complete with illustrations by D C T

TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY
by D C TOWNSEND
It was around 2000, give or take a couple years, that I had a Spalding peachick named Firestone because at that time there was a brand of tire with that name that had a very serious defect and many tires were recalled. At that time I had plenty of experience treating crooked toes, straddle legs, and displaced Achilles tendons. If a chick was very young and treatment was done "right now or sooner" a complete cure was the result more often than not.

But there was one thing that haunted me and cast a shadow over the "Friendly Poultry Orthopedist". It took me a long time to even comprehend that the reason why a lower leg and foot pointed out to the side was a twisted tibia. It took an even longer time to learn what to do about it. Firestone was about two weeks old after being treated successfully for a few common problems and I thought that my work with her was complete. Then one day as I peered into the brooder I saw to my horror that Firestone had one leg pointed out to the side. This was certainly "twisted tibia" but not a displaced Achilles tendon because I could see clearly that the tendon was centered in the groove at the rear of the hock joint.

Even today with many cures done with my own hands and more done by persons who got instructions by email or at my website I have to ponder how the idea formed in my head. Perhaps I should have changed Firestone's name to Epiphany, Breakthrough, or Theodora. (Gift from God) because the idea was too good to be my own. So I share this gift with anybody that wants it.

1. I cut some sponge the right size to wrap around just one hock joint and taped it in place. I did not wrap the other joint. Note: It really does not matter which joint is wrapped but I usually do it on the good leg.

2. I brought the lower legs firmly together and taped them from below hocks to above the feet.

REMOVE WATER TO PREVENT TAPED CHICK FROM STUMBLING INTO IT AND DROWNING

3. Taping was done at bed time and removed in the morning so I named it "Night Taping".
I removed tape and sponge in the morning so that the chick could be active during the day.

4. Five nights of treatment completely cured Firestone.

Of course, I anxiously observed her for a long time expecting a relapse and having a hard time believing my eyes. She grew up to be a very beautiful Spalding peahen and lived around sixteen years. I did a necropsy finding an ovarian tumor about three inches diameter, yellow lesions on liver and a slightly enlarged heart.

What untwists a twisted tibia? The force is supplied by the chick's own muscles as it struggles against the "Night Taping". Doing the treatment at night and removing the tape and sponge in the morning so that the chick can eat, drink and walk during the day works very well for me. Sometimes more than five nights of treatment is needed for full cure. What do I mean by "full cure"? The chick will show no evidence of ever having had a twisted tibia. If you stop short of obtaining the full cure it is very likely that the tibia will twist again because being out of line causes pressure that forces leg to twist. It is very important to treat the chick while very young because the bones soon harden.

When someone puts a question on my website or sends me an email asking me how to treat a chick with leg pointed to the side I will insist on seeing a photo of the hock joint taken close up from the rear. Before sending treatment instructions I have to know what I am treating. If there is a displaced Achilles tendon it requires a different treatment. If both probems come together the tendon must be competely repaired first because "Night Taping" will harm a hock joint weakened by a displaced Achilles tendon.

FOOT NOTE
The tibia (and fibula) are located in the piece that the Kentucky Fried Chicken people call the "drumstick". The leg bone above the tibia is the femur. The bone below the tibia is the tarsus.

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[> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- Vicki Dian (Duck Mama), 23:15:53 06/04/18 Mon [1]

I guess I need to make a hobble for my duck. She was attacked by older male ducks and the left leg was hurt. When she sat down, the leg did not bend and just laid straight. I started bending it for her and now she sit with it bended like the other leg. I gave her physical therapy with the leg and would hold it in place when she stood up. Because she can now walk with a limp and stand up. Walking is difficult cuz she will overlap her feet on top of each other. How do I help this?? I always separate them and so one will not be over the other. I continue to treat her with vitamins, etc. But what can I do to keep the feet off each other?? Hobbles?? How do I make them?? She is isolated in a large cage with a friend. She has come a long way & glad I did not list to vet!! What do I do now to keep feet apart?? ThanXX in advance!

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[> [> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 22:48:32 06/18/18 Mon [1]

I just found your post tonight and have sent yo an email

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[> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- Vanessa, 19:32:05 07/06/18 Fri [1]

I have a two week old guinea Keet with a slipped tendon. Their foot is straight back behind them and we can’t feel it popping in. I was going to make a sling or chick chair but I couldn’t find any directions.

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[> [> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 22:41:45 07/06/18 Fri [1]

A photo would help me understand the problem. I did reply to
your email

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[> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- Kristen (Concerned), 17:16:30 08/22/18 Wed [1]

Excellent article, thank you!! I have a month old peachick whom I believe has both slipped tendon and twisted tibia. Saturday morning she stood fine, Saturday evening one leg swung out to the side. A couple days of stretching and I can get the tendon into the right place, tho can’t get it to stay. And the leg still swings out to the side. Have pics & video but can’t quite figure out how to upload them.
Your article says night taping will make the slipped tendon situation worse. But the way the bones are misaligned, I’m not sure I can fix the sipped tendon w/o fixing the tibia. Any suggestions appreciated!!
Thank you!

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[> [> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 00:06:56 08/24/18 Fri [1]

You are welcome. I exist to serve my Creator by helping His most helpes creatures.
Get my email address by clicking my name and then follow instructions that appear.
Or post pictures at villagephotos.com or photobucket and then post link here

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[> [> [> Re: TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 22:04:11 02/28/19 Thu [1]

your friendly poultry orthopedist is still here to serve you

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[> IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE ILLUSTRATIONS -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 22:20:41 04/21/19 Sun [1]

click this link
https://unitedpeafowlassociation.org/articles/twisted-tibia-in-young-poultry/

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NOTICE TO FORUM USERS -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist (Townsend), 10:39:18 03/22/19 Fri [1]

If you like this forum and want the Voy forums people to keep it here please donate to them. I would like to donate but I have a "cash flow" problem and health problems, too. I have NO credit cards and NO Pay Pal. I do not know how many people use this forum but where I posted my article "Twisted Tibia in Young Poultry at the United Peafowl Association forum more than 1600 people have viewed it so far.
I exist to serve and hope to do so as long as I can. I do NOT use Face Book or other "social" media because I prefer to keep my life private.

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Please HELP my Pollish chick !! -- Mary Bergland, 19:46:46 08/02/18 Thu [1]

Her leg is twisting to the side/back and I have tried the bandaid ... its not working !! I dont want to do a wrong treatment and do damage !! HELLLLLPPPPP !!!!!!

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[> Re: Please HELP my Pollish chick !! -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 23:32:06 08/02/18 Thu [1]

Mary, I have emailed two replies to you

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CHRISTMAS MESSAGE FROM D C T -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 12:53:05 12/24/17 Sun [1]

This is the season to celebrate the birth of the ONE who could heal the lame--PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME !!!

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Thank you D.C. your article is great!!!

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TWISTED TIBIA IN YOUNG POULTRY ARTICLE -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 15:26:39 01/03/18 Wed [1]

Try very hard to get the Summer 2017 issue of PEAFOWL TODAY the official publication of the United Peafowl Association. My own copy of that arrived yesterday(Jan 2, 2018) due to some problems in production but it was well worth the long wait. To get this magazine one must be a UPA member. If you succeed in getting this magazine issue look on page ten for article by D C Townsend.

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3 day old chick standing on one leg -- Jill in KY, 08:24:21 06/18/17 Sun [1]

A chick I hatched 3 days ago was fine the first day. Second day he began holding his right leg up and hops around. I've tried the bandaid splint to hold both legs straight, hoping it bring the leg down, didn't work. I tried putting a little stiff paper/tape shoe on, that didn't help.

I'm not sure what's wrong with him but hope it's fixable soon while he's young.

Can you upload pictures here? I've taken several to show the problem. Thanks for any suggestions.

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[> Re: 3 day old chick standing on one leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 09:38:10 06/19/17 Mon [1]

This forum is not able to show photos but you can put photo at a photo storage website such as villagephotos.com or photobucket and then put a link to that here so that I can get to it. you can send photo in email to me (just click my name) but my computer is old and can not display a large photo.
I need to see close up of rear and side of the chick's legs.
You can put a video clip at some storage websites but do not try to send video to me by email because my computer will not show it to me.

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Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- Christa, 16:36:24 05/15/17 Mon [6]

Just checked on this 4 week old Production Red and she isn't walking. She can't put any weight on her leg, and it can twist all the way around. We can't figure out if it's a slipped tendon or if it's a twisted tibia. Do you have any insights? Is there any hope for her? If so, how do we splint it? Her hock is swollen, and lower leg below hock looks crooked itself. Are there other possibilities we haven't considered?

Thanks for any help you can provide!

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[> Re: Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- Christa, 17:17:12 05/15/17 Mon [1]

Here are the pictures/video of the Production Red chick.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1Ij1g-_di68bFJWUTBKb09MN1k

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[> [> Re: Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 23:36:20 05/15/17 Mon [1]

I do not believe that the Achilles tendon is the problem. The bones or joint may be bending out of shape. Perhaps the chick has been growing too fast. Is the production red a fast growing breed? Sometimes being fed a starter designed to promote fast growing can put stress on tender young legs. I would have to understand this chick's problem before suggesting a treatment plan. Perhaps an anti inflammatory drug could help.

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[> [> [> Re: Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- Christa, 00:17:25 05/16/17 Tue [1]

I don't think that Production Reds are fast growing in the sense of broiler type birds. It's just a cross between a Rhode Island Red and a New Hampshire Red. They are just on a normal, non-medicated chick starter (I threw away the bag and can't remember the brand). They also have the electrolyte and vitamin packets in their water (nipple waterer, so it's clean).

I have 9 chicks, 3 different varieties. This particular pullet is probably the smallest. They have free-choice feed, and usually go through about a quart/24 hours. Should I take away their feed at night?

She didn't appear to have any problems at all before today. I did briefly put them into a tote this morning while I cleaned their brooder, and I'm wondering if the newspaper on the floor and the commotion of being moved caused an injury. What other information can I provide to give you a better idea? More pictures/video?

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[> [> [> [> Re: Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 13:54:03 05/16/17 Tue [1]

I went back and looked at your Google Drive photos and video again and I do see what seems to be a twisted tibia. You can try the "night taping method" for a week and see if you get any results.
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sponge is taped to just one hock joint in order to protect both joints from pressure. Then the lower legs are taped firmly together from hocks to ankles.
As the chick fights this her own muscles will supply pressure to straighten the tibia. This treatment is is for young growing birds.
I prefer to do it at night and remove all tape in the morning so that the bird can move and eat during day.
REMOVE ALL WATER DURING TREATMENT TO PREVENT TAPED BIRD FROM DROWNING. I add this warning because I learned it the hard way. If you have more questions, just ask.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- Christa, 15:38:46 05/16/17 Tue [1]

Thank you! We'll keep trying this and see if we see any improvements.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with slipped tendon or twisted tibia??? -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 23:54:27 05/16/17 Tue [1]

You are welcome. I exist to serve my Creator by helping His most helpless creatures. Please update me on the results of the treatment. This will help other people with their chicks

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Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 19:37:26 04/19/17 Wed [16]

Hello,
This is the chick you diagnosed with a twisted tibia a few weeks ago. Responded to night taping and was doing well. This morning noticed that leg was limp and sticking out from hip. Toes do not react or curl when I touch them. Was thinking possible dislocation?

Here are pictures - I can get more:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RckZQRWk3OWs4ZEE

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[> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 23:24:13 04/19/17 Wed [1]

My old eyes are having a hard time understanding what has happened.It seems like hock joint is bent wrong way. I hope that this is not true but there is a treatment for that.

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[> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 05:52:09 04/20/17 Thu [1]

What would be the treatment for that? Based on what I have read I am afraid the leg is dislocated at the hip or broken. It is stiff and will not flex or bend. The closest avian specialist vet is only in on the weekends and I want to make sure I am doing all I can in the meantime.

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[> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 06:08:18 04/20/17 Thu [1]

Here is a video of the chick. You can seen when I attempt to place him in standing position the leg sticks straight out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RQ25XbkFDVVJaOVk/view?usp=sharing

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[> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 10:02:30 04/20/17 Thu [1]

Your video makes it very clear to me that the hock joint is bending backwards and will do so until it is treated in the correct way. My favorite method of doing this is to get an ordinary half gallon plastic milk jug--the kind that has been in stores for many years. Use scissors to cut the handle from this jug. Now look at this hollow plastic handle and observe the angle where it bends. Hold this beside a chick with normal healthy leg. Use a marker on the plastic to show where you will cut handle to make brace. Brace begins a quarter inch above foot goes behind hock joint and most of the way up the back of the tibia (the part of leg called "drumstick" by the Kentucky Fried Chicken makers.
You want this brace to cover sides and rear of leg so you must cut away the front (the inside of the handle). Round off the corners of your brace to avoid hurting tender skin.
You may begin cutting brace a bit too big because it is easier to cut off some afterwards than to have to start again if you got it too small.
Bend the hock joint into normal position and use any kind of tape to attach it. Tape should be about a half inch wide.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 19:39:44 04/20/17 Thu [1]

If you need more information--just ask. Your chick can be repaired if treated right now.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 08:33:56 04/23/17 Sun [1]

Hello,
So we did managed to splint the leg as recommended but it is still crossing in front of his body from his hip downward- this is what happened when he was first hatched. Is it possible there is some kind of hip joint issue as well? Is there some kind of wrap design that would hold the hip in a more natural position? If I press against his hip his leg straightens and he is able to bear weight.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 09:09:49 04/23/17 Sun [1]

If you can make me see and understand this problem I will seek for s treatment.I exist to serve.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 10:29:30 04/23/17 Sun [1]

I added three new pictures to this link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RckZQRWk3OWs4ZEE

If I press lightly inward on his hip area, this chick's leg touches the ground normally. When I release, the leg crosses from what looks like the hip.

Thanks for your continued assistance.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 13:36:22 04/23/17 Sun [1]

You are very welcome. Let me begin by explaining bird let anatomy. Birds have a hip socket joint just like humans. The femur bone is the top bone of the leg and at bottom of femur bone is the stifle joint which is like human knee. Then there is the tibia/fibula compared to human shin but I also compare this with what the Kentucky Fried Chicken people call the "drumstick". In chickens the fibula is about the size and shape of a toothpick so the tibia bears the weight. At the lower end of the tibia is the hock joint. This is the joint that was bent the wrong way in your chick and I told you how to make brace from jug handle to repair that. It seems to me that you did not do this. Please go back and check your work on the hock joint brace. Correcting a hock joint that has ben backwards can be tricky but can be done.
This must be done before thinking about hip

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- Ng, 17:44:00 04/23/17 Sun [1]

We tried to improvise with available materials and used some cardboard and tape. We thought we had fixed the knee joint...it would appear not. We will try the jug handle method. How will we know if we have braced him correctly? Thank you for your patience.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 20:37:13 04/23/17 Sun [1]

Knee??? Before I can explain anything I MUST be certain that we understand each other. The problem we are trying to repair is at the HOCK joint. This joint is where the chick fuzz or feathers end and the bare scale covered lower leg begins. If you are familiar with horse anatomy a horse's hock is the same as a chicken's hock. Now look at a half gallon milk jug handle and see how the bend in the handle does match a healthy chicken hock. Then use the instructions that I gave for making this brace. After hock joint is repaired and functioning correctly we will see if there is another problem to treat.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 20:40:57 04/23/17 Sun [1]

Thank you for taking the time to explain this more clearly. I will update with a picture to make sure that I have made the brace properly. Thanks again for your patience.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 21:29:16 04/26/17 Wed [1]

Hello again. So we have managed to apply the jug handle brace as instructed (at least I hope so). I will post a picture tomorrow, but in the meantime can you tell me if he should now be walking correctly? His hock joint I think we splinted properly but he is still holding his foot up kind of diagonally across his body when he walks.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 10:31:31 04/27/17 Thu [1]

Unless there is another problem here then all parts of the chick's feet and legs should be pointed in the right direction. I need to see pictures to help me understand.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- NG, 22:03:47 04/27/17 Thu [1]

Here are two pictures, one of the chick standing and one of him on his back. Is the splint on wrong? Or is something else going on?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RckZQRWk3OWs4ZEE

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with stiff leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 10:33:21 04/28/17 Fri [1]

It appears to me that you have brought jock joint into correct position. The toes may have a problem that could be helped by holding them in correct position (for a bird standing) and gently massaging them to stretch tendons and muscles connected to them.

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Chick with twisted leg? -- NG, 12:01:53 04/14/17 Fri [5]

Hello again, I have been treating one of the rescue chicks with a hobble for splayed leg for about 3 weeks. Just yesterday I noticed one of his legs seemed twisted and he was extending his wing to balance himself when he walked. Here are some photos/videos: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RckZQRWk3OWs4ZEE?usp=sharing

Any ideas or suggestions? He is eating/drinking normally.

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[> Re: Chick with twisted leg? -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 16:32:43 04/15/17 Sat [1]

This seems to be twisted tibia. Please scroll down and find instruction for treatment of this.

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[> [> Re: Chick with twisted leg? -- NG, 05:17:48 04/16/17 Sun [1]

started night taping treatment. must have made tape too loose though because this morning I saw that he had broken free. Should I also have him use the hobble brace during the day to treat his other leg that is splayed?

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[> [> [> Re: Chick with twisted leg? -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 06:02:14 04/16/17 Sun [1]

Am not certain about that. It depends on how the chick reacts to the treatment. The goal of all treatment is a bird with all parts pointed in the right direction and functioning perfectly.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Chick with twisted leg? -- NG, 07:53:31 04/16/17 Sun [1]

So for now you would recommend the night taping at night and to just leave his legs alone in the morning? Just want to make sure I am doing everything possible to help him recover. He was doing so well!

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Chick with twisted leg? -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 12:08:21 04/16/17 Sun [1]

OK,
After doing the "night taping" tonight and removing tape in the morning take a careful look at how the chick stands and walks. If feet seem too far apart then put on the hobble brace and check again. I am trying to teach you how to be a poultry orthopedist to pass this art on to others.

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chick with swollen hock -- NG, 20:47:50 04/03/17 Mon [1]

thanks for your help with my last post - have already seen some progress after first nigĥt taping. After sharing my success, a coworker asked if i could help one of their chicks - it is maybe 5-6 days old. hock is swollen and foot and limb appear swollen too. my initial thought was a slipped tendon and i tried gently stretching the limb back as recommended but didn't feel anything. here are some pictures:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RU2R1V1hmMnJ5Z00

would really appreciate some help - this guy seems like he is in rough shape.

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[> Re: chick with swollen hock -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 21:55:08 04/03/17 Mon [1]

Yes, but I call it a displaced Achilles tendon. This tendon crosses the rear of the hock joint and should be in a groove
in the end of the bone but it can get pushed to the side and not be able to get back in place. The longer it is out of place the more the surrounding tissues swell making it very hard to return it and make it stay in place. Hold the chick one of your hands and grip bad leg just above the foot,pull foot behind chick straightening hock joint, then twist foot while watching the tendon. You should be twisting so that the back toe begins to point outward but must stop when tendon is centered on the hock. When you release your grip and gently sit the chick on its feet the tendon may stay in place but is very likely to pop out of place again if there is swelling blocking the channel. This is where a chick chair or body sling is VERY useful.
Years ago I found a freshly hatched peachick and got the tendon in place right then before any damage had been done. So when I sat the peachick down it did some wild running and jumping so that I feared it would displace that tendon but it did not. But a different peachick had both tendons out of place and had some swelling. It took nearly two weeks of serious effort with chick chair and braces before that one was repaired. I must tell you that sometimes I have not been able to repair a chick even after much effort

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chick can't walk or stand -- NG, 12:12:01 04/02/17 Sun [9]

I have a 4-5 day old chick that cannot walk or stand. This has been an issue since it hatched. When "he" moves, he kind of flaps his wings and drags along on his belly. Vet said it was some kind of "leg deformity" but could not give a more definitive diagnosis. Is eating and drinking normally (have been making sure he has access to both food and water).

Was considering some kind of sling, but not sure if it is appropriate for what is going on or how to go about constructing one.

Here are some pictures: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RU2R1V1hmMnJ5Z00?usp=sharing

Thanks.

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[> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 12:43:58 04/02/17 Sun [1]

I have looked at photos but I need to see each leg from side view before I can understand the problem.

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[> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- NG, 12:58:22 04/02/17 Sun [1]

I have added some more pictures and a short clip of the chick walking. I can take more - just let me know specifically what you need to see:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RU2R1V1hmMnJ5Z00?usp=sharing

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[> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 14:23:21 04/02/17 Sun [1]

I believe that the right tibia is twisted causing lower leg to point outward. It is interesting that another chick with twisted tibia was just posted on this forum before yours but am glad that yours is younger since this can make a difference in the outcome of the treatment. But I have hope even for the first one. My "night taping" method started when I had a two week old peachick that suddenly developed twisted tibia after having treatments for other orthopedic problems. Five nights
of this treatment were all that she needed before growing into a healthy peahen. I cut a small piece of sponge to tape to hock joint to prevent rubbing and bruising. Then I brought lower legs together and taped then from hock down to ankle. I removed tape and sponge in morning so she could eat and drink in daytime. The action of leg muscles pulling against the tape is what powered the treatment but the result did seem like a miracle.
REMOVE ALL WATER DURING NIGHT TREATMENT TO PREVENT DROWNING.
If you have questions just ask

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[> [> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- NG, 16:14:30 04/02/17 Sun [1]

Thank you so much for the prompt replies. It is appreciated. Are there any images you can show me to give me a better visual of what the taping should look like?

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 17:00:58 04/02/17 Sun [1]

Tried to find some but could not find right now.
Just have lower legs together with toes pointed in right direction with very thin pad between hock joints. You can not go wrong.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- NG, 20:05:36 04/02/17 Sun [1]

Is this what it should look like (I found this picture online- obviously with older chicken):
http://cdn.backyardchickens.com/8/87/350x700px-LL-8734832b_2013_0620_174646.jpeg

Also, would you recommend that the chick be kept by itself until it heals?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 21:03:37 04/02/17 Sun [1]

Yes you did find a good picture. But the tape could be just a fraction of an inch shorter near the toes. the chick does need to be in a brooder of proper temperature, either alone or with just a few of its own size WITH NO WATER. Sorry but I have nightmare memory of drowned peachick and resolved that its death should be a warning to save other birds. If your chick has been with a hen this is the time to separate it from her.
A small mirror can be used to keep it from feeling lonely

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- NG, 21:19:38 04/02/17 Sun [1]

Thanks for the feedback. How does this look (this is the chick)?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ZB-Uhz3p_RcFk4dWJscjc5ZW8/view?usp=sharing

Have already removed water for the night - thanks for the warning.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: chick can't walk or stand -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 21:31:47 04/03/17 Mon [1]

You are welcome. I exist to serve my Creator by helping His most helpless creatures. Your taping looks good.
I have been offline a while due to storms which may come back.

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3 week old chick with twisted leg -- JS, 20:55:54 04/01/17 Sat [1]

Hi, We have a chick with at twisted leg that she's had since she hatched. She had a hobble on her legs with self-adhesive tape for the last 10 days with minimal improvement. She has been eating good quality food, and appears relatively happy. We took the hobble off today and she was having a difficult time resting any weight on the bad legl. We just made a sling for her and are hoping it helps! Please help!

Here are a few pictures: https://spark.adobe.com/page/d9eRwmLZHIjrB/

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[> Re: 3 week old chick with twisted leg -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 12:01:06 04/02/17 Sun [1]

This appears to be twisted tibia. I do wish that you had contacted me as soon as the chick hatched but there may be hope for treatment by my "night taping" method which was first used on a two week old peachick named Firestone. She was given just five nights of this treatment and was completely cured.
I cut a small piece of thin sponge to wrap around one hock joint. Padding one hock joint will protect both hocks from rubbing together so it does not matter which hock is padded. Then I brought the lower legs firmly together and taped them
from hock to ankle. In the morning I removed the tape and padding. Forgot to mention that the padding was taped in place before taping legs.
REMOVE ALL WATER DURING TAPING TO PREVENT DROWNING
I assume that this chick is in a brooder and not under a mother hen since a hen might step on a taped chick.
If you have questions just ask.

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Bow legged rooster -- 4roses, 16:29:21 01/16/17 Mon [1]

I have a rooster who is very bow legged his legs seem to be set on the side of his body vs under his body. He has a very hard time standing and sits a lot.

Here is a link to some pictures since I can't find how to post them on here. http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1149024/rooster-with-bad-hips#post_17960333

Thanks for your help in advance.

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[> Re: Bow legged rooster -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 10:30:25 01/17/17 Tue [1]

I have looked at your rooster's photos and can see that his problem must be in hip joints or stifle joints. His hock joints look healthy. There is nothing I know of to repair this but he looks like he could still enjoy life as a pet if kept in a safe pen where he is not picked on.

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Young turkey with bent leg -- Vanessa, 22:32:56 09/25/16 Sun [1]

Hi -- hoping you can help us sort out what is going on with our new turkey. She is a few months old and we have had her for a few weeks. She is our first turkey and was sort of gangly and bow-legged from the start, which we thought maybe was normal for a turkey. But in the past week I've noticed that one of her legs looks a lot worse than before -- sort of twisted to the side. She does not seem in pain and is eating fine, but she is a little more off to her self than before (we have chickens but she's our only turkey) and is roosting on top of the coop rather than inside on the roost, which has us suspecting that she is having trouble roosting. I am sending you pictures and a video by email.

Thank you so much for your help! Our birds are free range egg-layers and we just want to take care of her and keep her comfortable, but are concerned about her getting to a point where she is in pain.

Vanessa

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30hour old chick with leg and toe problems,not standing -- Sabrinab (Hopeful), 16:28:31 09/22/16 Thu [1]

I have a 30h old chick, shes the only one out of 16 with crooked legs and feet and can hardly stand straigt, she mostly leans to the side, need help with how to help her get her feet back on track!
Ive tryed since early this morning making her little shoes out of athletic tape/vet tape.. But not sure if that is the only thing i should be doing!?

Ive read in the previous threads that i should send a picture but there isnt any button that says that i can attach a picture of thiss poor chick
Is there an email adress that i can send the picture to ?

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[> Re: 30hour old chick with leg and toe problems,not standing -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 16:53:49 09/22/16 Thu [1]

click my name to get my email address

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My 3 weeks G chick -- Helen (confused), 16:29:15 09/18/16 Sun [1]

My g chick was first to crack her egg but she was last one out.
She born very weak.
One of her legs goes out and her toes go out.
We are having to feed her eggs, oatmeal chick crumbs we have tried her with every thing.

She so happy chat chat but now so loney as well.
We tried straping her leg making sprint .
Sadly it keep fulling of her legs.
Please what can I do she lovely chick .

we at moment she not in pain .
We praying that she get healed to be able to enjoy her live.

Please have you got any ideas to help her.

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[> Re: My 3 weeks G chick -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 22:05:47 09/18/16 Sun [1]

By G chick do you mean Guinea? I need to see a photo of the leg made close up from the rear. A photo of the side of the leg may be helpful too.

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Chick with leg turned in -- Jennifer, 11:40:24 09/12/16 Mon [1]

My chick has a leg turned to the inside. It appears that it may have been broken from breeder who sent my neighbor 25 chicks (I live across the road and took the chick in to separate and hopefully rehab.) There is some swelling at hock area and it is already calloused. She is eating and drinking and otherwise appears normal. When she stands her leg turns in and wing comes down like a crutch for support. I'm not sure if this will eventually correct itself or if I should splint or make little hobbles

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[> Re: Chick with leg turned in -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 17:32:09 09/12/16 Mon [1]

Since this is a new chick it may have displaced it Achilles tendon as it kicked off the eggshell. If caught very soon this can be cured. I need to see a photo close up of the hock joint from the rear. (Hock joint is where fuzz ends and scales begin.) The Achilles tendon should cross the center if the joint but can be displaced to the side. It needs to be stay in the groove in center of joint. Click my name to get my email address,

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6 week old turkey has leg turned out. -- Roxanne, 20:27:35 09/03/16 Sat [1]

My friend gave me a turkey and its leg is turned out. It can hardly walk. Any help would be much appreciated

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[> Re: 6 week old turkey has leg turned out. -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 21:04:12 09/03/16 Sat [1]

As always I need to see close up photo of the leg joint as seen from the rear of the bird.This is because I need to know if the problem is in the joint or the leg bone.

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POULTRY ORTHOPEDIST STILL ON DUTY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 09:06:48 08/20/16 Sat [1]

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Leg stretched out backward on guinnea chick -- Tami B, 23:42:23 06/15/16 Wed [2]

I adopted a guinnea chick that is dragging its left leg. It's trying to bend the leg straight. It's using its good leg and wing to hop or jump to eat and drink. Wondering if it sounds like splay leg or something else. It has not slipped or injured it as far as I'm told by the breeder. It started this way from day one.

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[> Re: Leg stretched out backward on guinnea chick -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 22:33:09 06/17/16 Fri [1]

I need to see a photo of the leg and a photo of the hock joint
close up taken from the rear. How old is this guinea?

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[> [> POULTRY POSTS ONLY -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 09:02:24 08/20/16 Sat [1]

IF YOU ARE NOT POSTING ABOUT POULTRY
THEN
DO NOT DO IT HERE

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Light Brahma with swollen hock and limping -- Michelle R, 11:40:20 05/15/16 Sun [1]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPcJ9U0yRbU&feature=youtu.be

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[> Re: Light Brahma with swollen hock and limping -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 20:51:00 05/15/16 Sun [1]

This appears to be twisted tibia (bone called "drumstick" by
the Kentucky Fried Chicken makers)
But I would like to see the hock joint (rear view) close up
to check position of Achilles tendon. This chicken was
growing fast so legs were soft cartilage easily injured.
It is nearly impossible to find a good avian vet that will
treat this but if you can then do it. If not make the photos
of hock joint and send them to me. Will try to help but there
is NO guarantee of cure

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Baby Chick with bent legs when hatched -- Stefany, 15:19:04 05/11/16 Wed [1]

I have baby chicks hatching from an incubator, I have one that hatched on her own (took several hours) but when she broke out of the shell her legs were both still bent (as if she was still in the egg) and it is now 2 days and she still can't bend them or stand. She is eating and drinking, but want to know if putting bandaid bands on her or anything would help. Thank you!

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[> Re: Baby Chick with bent legs when hatched -- D C T - friendly poultry orthopedist, 18:42:57 05/11/16 Wed [1]

Your chick needs help RIGHT NOW OR SOONER. Delay makes this
much worse. DO NOT PUT STICKY TAPE ON LEGS. This hurts the
skin. Click on my name and follow the forums instructions to
get my email address. Then email me with close up photos of
the chick's leg joint. I need to see the rear of the hock
joints to check the Achilles tendon's position before I can
send any instructions.

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