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Subject: I would rather create with a camera


Author:
Rick
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Date Posted: Sunday, March 07, 12:27:21pm

but there are things I want to do that can't be done with just a camera. You cannot make an aquarium like that... or if there is one, it would be impossible to get permission to shoot the image the way I want.
A lady I know is making a mermaid tail for a photo she wants me to do, but she won't actually be in the water for it.. she will be on the deck of a boat so it will be done ith the camera. Its not the same though.

I love my 120 box camera. I love my 35mm Canon but my Canon XS digital and Photoshop allow me to do things that are impossible any other way. And the fact of the matter is, the person who bought that photo from me, originally thought it was a photograph. And if I can create something and people think it's a photograph, than I've done it right.

Goofy crap like those robots stepping through the stargate that I showed you, thats just goofing around. I don't consider it art and I don't consider it serious work. The teepee and the aquarium on the other hand, I do consider art. And if I showed it to you AFTER the real mermaid models were in it, I'd be willing to bet that very few people would guess it was a photoshop creation and not a photograph.

I was in a discussion about Ansel Adams and someone said that he would have hated Photoshop. But that man was dodging and burning 75 years before photoshop so I personally think he would have been brought in as a consultant on the creation of Photoshop. For sure, he would be using it.

Everyone has their own expectations and their own ideas of what art is. It shouldn't matter how it's created. What should matter is the end result... that piece of artwork. To tell someone their work isn't art just because you don't happen to think it isn't a real crative process is wrong.

To say, "I am in the complete minority when it comes to "images" and the creativity behind them." is to say these are only 'images' in the word and not the product and that is wrong. Thats like saying the Mona Lisa isn't art because it wasn't made with a camera. To put the word' creativity' in the same sentence implies that there is no creativity involved and there most certainly is. The end result is what you saw in your mind's eye before you started, and to end up there when you're finished.

I would say that anyone who just snaps a picture is no more of an artist than a two year old with a box of crayons is. There has to be some creativity in it or its just some ink on a sheet of paper.

Those are the last images I will post here.

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