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Date Posted: 11:56:30 07/09/07 Mon
Author: jo
Subject: I’m not very pleased with Frank either, he doesn’t seem a good father to me. From where I come from, children are talked to not thrown away like garbage. Ok, Jeremy was sooo wrong and shouldn’t have ever even raised his hand at his mother, much less hit her, and several times. He needs to really understand that he was more than wrong and get a serious punishment. But just throwing him away won’t solve the matter. And how can a father do that to his son? Mainly when the said son does seem sorry? and lost?(inside)
In reply to: KH (had her first helicopter ride this weekend. AMAZING! 's message, "Well I'm signing in on the fly as I head out the door for work to say "Another amazing episode". I do have to say that I'm not real pleased with Frank at this moment. He has every right to be angry, but he isn't handling the situation well at all. And let's just say we now know where Jeremy gets his temper from. Frank is very much a mega male and likes to be in control. I'll elaborate more after work tonight, but I thought I would make a couple of comments. Have a Great Day Everyone, see you after work and Take Care! :o)" on 06:47:16 07/09/07 Mon

Shouldn’t a parent try at least to understand the motive behind the actions? I don’t have kids yet, but I think the way Franck acted was too brutal. Jeremy came forward and confessed. What does his father do? He goes ballistic and he repudiates his son. Great example. He doesn’t listen to his wife, who tries to tell him that above all it was a problem between her and their son. But Franck doesn’t care for her opinion, he can only see that by hitting his mother Jeremy actually injured him!!! Super! So what are we supposed to understand, that it is wrong for a son to hit his mother not per se but because it is like actually hitting the father himself?! I’m not happy with this kind of husband for Denise, and I can only understand better why she has always felt that she needed not to express herself, it is obvious that her husband can’t listen to her when she has a different opinion. Jeremy does need a lot of guidance and must learn to take responsibility and face the consequences of his actions. But I can also understand where his resentment comes from: his father mustn’t have listened too much to his opinions and his mother must have been quiet all this time. I’m not justifying him, far from it, but I am a lot less disgusted with him after seeing the way his father treats him. I honestly can’t understand how a parent can kick his child out of the house like that. I am sure Michael Holden would have handled the matter much better. While Franck’s behaviour might have been affected by his almost death, it doesn’t explain everything, it looks more like his typical behaviour. I also hope that Denise will stand up to him and protect her son.

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[> [> What struck me is that no one expected Frank to act this way. Michael, Denise, and Jeremy were all shocked at how he reacted. They don't know him very well. He seems like a dictator who is closed off. He loves Denise very much and treats her well, but doesn't expect her to ever oppose him. -- Theresa, 12:25:29 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> Well said Theresa and jo. (Try not to pass out Theresa because we're agreeing..lol.) -- Kathy, 12:39:23 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> They don't even know their son has an interest in architecture? Jeremy's anger wasn't built overnight. He resented his mother's weakness and felt she did not stand up for him. Denise siding with her son (probably a first) and Frank feels threatened. His wife lies to him because of Jeremy. Frank has an anger management problem. That he dismisses his wife's opinions is troubling. Frank should have removed himself from the situation and cooled down. He just saw red and wasn't keying in on his son's needs. (Just look at how some kids are treated like pawns in a divorce as each parent looks after their own interest). Why wouldn't Denise even listen to Jeremy when he said he didn't want to go to West Point? She has been avoiding alot of things to keep the peace (as my grandmother used to say). -- Jubellant, 12:56:14 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> Denise did listen and said she understood. She just asked Jeremy if he would consider going to West Point for the great education. -- Kathy, 13:13:07 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> The thing that got me, and I'll have to go back and look again to see if I remember correctly, was Frank did walk out when he heard about it. Instead of cooling off, he allowed the anger to grow and he threw his son out, not caring about his wife's feelings or even listening to her. I think Denise was shocked at just how much he disregarded what she was saying. She tried to stand up for herself and say that she was dealing with it, but he refused to listen at all. Jeremy's anger problems come from his father both genetically and otherwise. Frank treats Denise like she's a soldier in his command and "relying" on her to do his bidding while he's away. He's said that several times. It's something I don't think Denise realized until now. -- Theresa, 14:34:56 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> He did walk away Theresa but when his anger remained unresolved he did not want Jeremy in his sight anymore because he was afraid of what he would do to him. In light of the situation he was coming back from I doubt that he was able to turn his emotions off on a dime. He had been off fighting to protect rights and here at home his wife had not been protected. I think the more Frank thought about it the angrier he got. First that his son had done this, his wife had kept it from him, also mad that he hadn't noticed and then probably to find out the Holden's intervention had not worked initially probably increased his anger. He over-reacted. The jury is still out as to whether he will reconcile with his son. -- Jubellant, 15:48:51 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I agree with this. He didn't cool off. His anger just grew the more he thought about it. -- Theresa, 15:55:14 07/09/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> Well jo, I would like to say what an eloquent post and I couldn't have expressed it better myself, so I won't add anything. I also have to say that I agree with My Twinny and Theresa's posts as well. It doesn't look like I'm going to like Frank much next week either. Although is does look like Denise is definitely going to start letting herself be heard in the upcoming episode. Take Care! :o) -- KH, 05:24:25 07/10/07 Tue [1]


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