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Date Posted: 12:07:49 07/19/07 Thu
Author: Jubellant
Subject: Yes TB it was after Frank deployed, then he got bolder hitting his Mom while his Dad was home the last time and the timeframe was 6 months. These two seem to resent their Dad's being in the army if they are both rebelling this way. Jeremy has been right in the thick of it but Amanda has been away at school so to still feel that strongly......
In reply to: Texasbrat 's message, "To me Amanda sleeping w/Jeremy is more about her rebellion against Dad & his ultimatum to not see Jeremy anymore. And for Jeremy is was the urgency that he was leaving for boot camp. Denise handled the situation very well. Thanx, Jubellant for mentioning that someone missed some warning signs -- didn't Denise say that Jeremy had been abusing her for 6 months & she said it right after Frank deployed?" on 11:47:26 07/19/07 Thu


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[> [> [> Amanda was just told by her father a few weeks ago that whatever she does affects thousands of soldiers. She's directly in the thick of it. Not allowed to express her own beliefs or opinions like any other American has the right to, because her father has put that responsibility on her. She didn't ask to be born into that environment, and she shouldn't be subject to it, just because it's her father's job. She didn't want the life her mother had, and didn't want to be married to or dating a soldier. As far as her having sex with Jeremy, it was an emotional situation for both of them, and being who they are they just darn well wanted to get it on, damn the consequences. -- Theresa, 12:15:33 07/19/07 Thu [1]


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[> [> [> [> It would be ideal if we weren't put in situations we didn't like. It's called life. No one is ever totally happy with what they have, be it hair color, eye color, height, weight etc Life is about sometimes making the best of certain situations. We are not talking about children of pimps, drug lords or other social deviants here. It all boils down to a matter of caring and respect for one's parents if not their career choice. Their parents are hard working individuals trying to provide for their families. What she does impacts her father, no one was telling her what to believe. She has a right to protest, but sometimes just being thoughtful about how things we do effects others, without compromising your own beliefs, is okay too. -- Jubellant, 12:55:19 07/19/07 Thu [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> Well said Jubellant. Her protest also affected her schooling, she was in the uniform of a parochial style girls school, & because of her arrest, she had to leave the school. -- Texasbrat, 13:09:16 07/19/07 Thu [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> That's all true, but I find it interesting that the children of the people who fight for our freedoms live under a system where they are less free than other children. What a petty nitpicky environment they have on Army Wives where rumors can ruin promotion chances and your child participating in a peaceful demonstration can effect your career. It's not that way in the civilian world. My father is head of a huge department in a hospital, if I protested anything as a teen his boss probably would never hear about it or care one way or another. Amanda should respect her parents, but not at the peril of her own freedom if she's not doing anything immoral or illegal. No good parent would ask that of her. Do I think her actions with Jeremy were 5 shades of stupid? YES I DO! -- Theresa, 13:53:13 07/19/07 Thu [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> I agree with Theresa on this one as well. Amanda is also 18 years old Jubellant and 18 year olds don't always think about about how things they do affects others. And Texasbrat, she didn't have to leave school, it was done and in exam session which she got approval from the principal to take her exams. And in the same sense you two what parents do impacts there kids, so they should maybe be a little more thoughtful and aware of how and what they do affects their kids. -- Kathy, 13:59:29 07/19/07 Thu [1]


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