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Date Posted: 09:19:09 07/20/07 Fri
Author: jo
Subject: I believe Jeremy took Denise’s threats seriously, but he didn’t fully realise the seriousness of his actions. Before you throw tomatoes at me, lol, let me say that I’m not implying that he was a poor little kid who couldn’t tell right from wrong so that should be his excuse. Far from it. He knew what he was doing, because he did it repeatedly and each time the violence escalated. So no excuse. But it is interesting to understand WHY he did it (again, without excusing him) because one should start from the cause in order to find a remedy.(inside)
In reply to: Kristen 's message, "Let's change the situation up: Let's say Frank's chopper hadnt gone down. What would have happened w. Jeremy and Denise then? My thoughts are inside b.c it was too long LOL....." on 19:05:55 07/19/07 Thu

Here I agree with Theresa, he was frustrated no one would listen to him, to what he wants, and he reacted violently. I think he was angry at his mother not only because she took his father’s side without considering Jeremy’s wishes, but also because of her perceived weakness. She wouldn’t say anything, she wouldn’t stop him. That’s why I believe that the time Denise told him that she would have him arrested was actually satisfying for him. She behaved like a mother in charge of things, and that’s what she actually was. He tried to reconnect with her afterwards, and I don’t believe it was a devious, cunning plot to assuage Col Holden’s or Amanda’s or anyone else’s reaction. The thing is, abusers might have 2 faces: the abuse and the caring, which makes them deranged IMO. Anyway, Jeremy was sorry and he was right when he said that sorry wasn’t enough. but it was a start: admitting what he had done, taking responsibility for his actions, because irrespective of his motives he had no right to even raise his hand at his mother, or anyone else. Maybe if they had been given some more time, ie if Frank’s chopper hadn’t gone down, they would have begun to sort it out. Together. Mother and son. That being said, I am not so sure he wouldn’t have hit her again. I do believe he has a major problem which should be specifically addressed, and boot camp is just not enough for his domestic violence issues.

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[> What I wonder since Denise put Jeremy in his place and he apologized we have not seen any signs of him being abusive either to her or Amanda. Not even any real anger. Is this normal if he really did have a temper problem it seems we should have seen it at some point since then. It just seems he has done a 180 with no in-between. It just seems a little weird so waiting to see if we see anymore of that anger. -- Hope, 09:36:35 07/20/07 Fri [1]


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[> [> it does seem a bit unrealistic for Jeremy to show no anger at all, even without being violent. maybe it's his dad's accident and the worry of not knowing whether he was dead or alive that had an impact on him, prompting his calmer behaviour. also, his mother's warning. Since he has no issues with Amanda, I don't see him being abusive to her right now (but who knows what he would do if one day she antagonized him for whatever reason...) -- jo, 10:43:42 07/20/07 Fri [1]


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