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Date Posted: 14:38:11 07/30/07 Mon
Author: Kristen
Subject: Ok I am w. Jubes on this ... yes Frank was not exactly being all sweet and all at the beginning- I loved loved D-girl's response of a kiss on the cheek and leaving. But I think Jubes is right-we dont know Frank's background and why he is so rigid-was he brought up this way? Who knows? But I did see some redeeming parts to Frank last nite inside for length....
In reply to: Jubellant 's message, "I don't know enough about Frank's background to judge him, nor do I know what age he went into the army. In his case he may be just parroting what he has lived. When he knows better hopefully he will do better. I'd like to have faith in D-girl's choice of a life partner. Hopefully she saw in him what is not so apparent to us. I found it strange that except for Roland saying CJ's experience could have happened to anyone, Denise was the only other person that showed support. Roxie and Pamela looked dumbfounded. I can't believe they said nothing. At first Roland seemed to relate well with CJ when they were rocking Pamela's babies but lately Denise seems to be whom he is relating to. Michael sure has done a 180 as far as Joan is concerned and I'm glad. She really needs someone in her corner." on 09:30:54 07/30/07 Mon

he told Denise he was proud of her and that he saw who she was for the first time in a long time-yes he sooo could have gotten up to give her a hug or kiss -but this is progress that Frank seems to be making... as for D-girl- SOOO PROUD OF HER!!!! You go girl!!! The previews look HYSTERICAL- I was crying w. laughter when they showed everyone's response to Roxy and Trevor and then they pan over to Denise and she says "Im speechless" I LOST IT LOL!!!! CB AND COMEDY GOOD MATCH!!!! :-) As for CJ, I am sorry but she needs to get Denise to try her new boxing skills on her- what a BIT%$!!!! CJ made a mistake-yes a fatal mistake but it wasnt out of spite or hate- I mean I know when I was younger and would stay out late I was stupid and would drive home- even have closed my eyes twice- now I make sure I have another driver or I crash with friends. As for Chase- I like hime so much more now :-) GREAT SHOW!!!!!!!! KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!! :-)

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[> [> [> I'm not sure how background really makes that much of a difference. Either you're someone who respects your spouse or you're not. Look at Trevor. How many of us are exactly like our parents? Or have houses set up exactly like our parents households? I know mine's not. People choose to be the kind of people that they are. -- Theresa, 15:10:37 07/30/07 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> Background does make a difference as to what we model or don't model our lives after. My Dad's parents moved to the States leaving two children behind and intending to send for them once they got settled. (My Dad was around 5) His parents went on to having 5 other children finances were tough and his father died young and they never got sent for. My Dad, left to fend for himself was not thrilled with the situation he was left in and felt he would have a better opportunity living and working with someone else. Needless to say certain family skills were lacking on his part. Growing up there were certain behaviours I wasn't thrilled about but knowing what was lacking in his formative years at least allowed me to be more forgiving. So yes, background can make a huge difference! -- Jubellant, 09:23:10 07/31/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> Okay, someone's background can affect people, but they can choose whether it affects them positively or negatively. Frank chooses not to be respectful and an ass to his wife. Just like Jeremy chose to be an abuser regardless of his background. Background may make a difference, but it doesn't dictate your life. You're either strong enough to rise above adverse things, or wise enough to cling to the things that are good about your childhood, but every choice is yours. -- Theresa, 10:11:25 07/31/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Frank is delusional, he actually believes he knows what's best. He almost acts like a parental figure to Denise instead of an equal. I love how she handles him though. That kiss on the cheek was priceless. It said it all. I care about you but I am doing this. I definitely would not have been so cool headed!! Your statement about clinging to what was good about your childhood (that's if you had one). Some kids are forced into being responsible at an early age. If you have been used to fending for yourself and making your own decisions the idea of collaborating seems foreign to you. You would probably have to suffer a few hard knocks in life to realize that this might not be the best way to get what you want. -- Jubellant, 10:52:21 07/31/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Maybe Frank isn't such an a$$. Maybe he was just used to making all the decisions without question from day one. Maybe this was Denise's first time making waves and he's not used to that. On some level Denise must know that because she handled him with unheard of patience and calm. LOL! So just as Denise had to adjust to the changes within herself, Frank needs a minute to come up to speed and make the same adjustment to now having a real partner. Bet he'll eventually find he loves the new Denise all the more. I'll give him two episodes to catch up, and then decide what I really think of him. Now Roland? He gets one more. LOL! -- Carrotts, 13:33:46 07/31/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I would agree that Frank isn't such an ass if he hadn't ordered Denise to go with him and say she has to. And if he hadn't come to the hospital intending to drag her out of there. I can see him not liking it because it's not what he's used to, but even after she talked to him about it he didn't accept it because it wasn't what he wanted. That's being an ass. Frank and Denise don't really know each other very well. She seemed surprised when he said he was going to drag her out of the hospital. He seemed surprised that she was vital and active and good at being a nurse. He was right to realize that he would drive her away too if he didn't back off and let her be herself. -- Theresa, 16:45:13 07/31/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think he may have switched to work mode and what he would do when orders weren't obeyed in the field. That might have been his only point of reference. He might have intended to drag her out in his head but in reality I doubt even in his state of mind he would have done it even if she had been on a coffee break.. well, okay maybe it would have gotten ugly had she been on a coffee break. Whew, glad she wasn't. :-0 -- Carrotts, 17:29:19 07/31/07 Tue [1]


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