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THE UNOFFICIAL MRS. AMERICA BOARD
Welcome to the UNOFFICIAL MRS. AMERICA BOARD! Known as the SuperBowl of Mrs. Pageants, the Mrs. America Pageant is the Premiere pageant event for married women in the United States. Share your thoughts about your favortie titleholders and contestants. Please remember to be kind...NO BASHING will be tolerated!

Subject: Do you really think the Mrs. Idaho Pageant is fixed?
Author: N/A [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:22:20 10/14/09 Wed I found these comments on a site here in Idaho. I was going to sign up this year with a friend but since finding this we are both unsure. Does anyone know if this is true?? Don't do Mrs. Idaho America!!!!! It is SOOOOOO rigged. I did it last year and the director tells the judges who they want to win and it happens. They also help the person they want to win more than others. It is so obvious and WRONG. It does not bother the people who run this damn thing to take money from the contestants who think it is being run fairly. WHY EVEN HOLD A PAGEANT!! Just crown the one you want it to be and get it over with Mrs. Feely!! Every winner comes from Boise and is a FRIEND of the director. Posted by: Mrs. Idaho America is FIXED! \| 08/16/2009 at 06:46 PM How sad!! I heard that also. I was at the pageant and I did not even think of the lady who won as standing out. Her gown was a spring time dress and she was so youthfully short. Pretty yes but again, friends with Mrs. Idaho 2008 and good friends with the Director. I do believe this pageant is fixed. Don't waste your time. Posted by: It's to bad it is fixed and is to much money to give away when I know it is fixed.- Not worth your time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Sorry to say but yes! I do believe this one is fixed. I did it in 2008. Once I saw the 2009 pageant I knew yes in deed it is a fixed pageant. Sorry Idaho but this system in this state needs to think twice about how they decide on the winner. Where ever did you find these comments? Were they on a board? (NT) -- Do it if you want but it is so much money to only know your gut told you it was fixed and yes for sure it was., 08:32:00 10/14/09 Wed I have been invited many times to do this pageant. I just can't get myself to say yes! I was also sitting 2009 watching and so many more standed out far more then the winner. What are judges looking for. Maybe if I knew that I would consider. I just can't think why they picked someone who looked like she was in her tees? She looked ok but did not pop like so many other ladies on the stage. I did not even see her making the top. I have to wonder if it is fixed? What are others feelings about this pageant. I had a friend in it last year that said the winner was getting more help then the other ladies. To me that is just not right. She said it was odvious who was going to win and everyone back stage new and did not even get to watch the pageant. That would be a horible feeling. (NT) -- Share your feelings, 08:58:28 10/14/09 Wed Knew not new. Morning head sorry no coffee yet. (NT) -- would love feed back, 09:00:48 10/14/09 Wed America and International inI DAHO -- Kimberly Mulkey, 09:26:25 10/14/09 Wed Who are you and why does your opinion count Kim?? (NT) -- I do want feed back but who are you?, 09:34:50 10/14/09 Wed I help direct the Mrs Idaho America pageant. We have sat by year after year while someone anonomously attacks us in the voy boards. My daughters and I have been involved in pageants for nearly 20 years with numerous systems. I have seen the best and the worst of the people involved. Say what you like about how we run the pageant but NEVER question our integrity or that of our auditor. We did not know Jamie before the pageant and never discussed who we wanted to win with the judges. Every year the judges are given the same instructions. These are the same instructions that we share with our contestants at workshop! We offer two workshops to our contestants. We also make the same offer to everyone to meet individually with any contestant who ASKS! If a past contestant did not get the help she wanted - then she did not ask! By the way, Jamie did not ask for individual help prior to pageant - therefore she did not receive any.. (NT) -- If you wish to speak with any of us directly, we are easy to find and happy to respond to you personally, 10:28:16 10/14/09 Wed my opinion counts because someone asked for it... -- Kimberly Mulkey, 11:43:05 10/14/09 Wed Please POST the URL where you read this imformation. I have searched for it and can not find it anywhere -- thank you for your help, 12:27:58 10/14/09 Wed I AM A FORMER JUDGE FOR IDAHO AMERICA. If you would like an intelligent conversation on how I judged in 2008 then email me...(click in) -- ordirector@comcast.net, Libby Crawford (also judge Mrs TN, wanna go there too?), 12:54:57 10/14/09 Wed I got this link e-mailed to me this morning by a friend. I have decided by myself not to even think of doing a pageant. Here is the link but by this board which was in the e-mail it's noting I want for me or my family. You woman can be really mean to each other and pageants seem to unreal of a way to feel good about myself. I love living in boise but I am not mormon. I also heard you have to be Mormon to win. That's to bad. Being at the pageant this year seeing that the winner was yelled for the most and the woman that popped out did not win goes to show to me it is fixed. Say what you will but I don't want my life to be known for competing in Mrs. Idaho. No thank you! http://outtabodymommy.clubmom.com/outtabodymommy/2007/09/to-bad-my-moral.html -- would not leave my name here. You would bash me., 15:13:52 10/14/09 Wed So are you friends with Deb Smith-Severson? or are you her? -- just asking, 15:39:59 10/14/09 Wed I competed in the pageant 2 years ago and it never crossed my mind that the pageant was rigged. It still never does. The directors go out of there way to run a quality program year after year. Why do you think so many ladies return each year? I didn't win the year I competed and still have so much respect for the whole system. Yet, this past year, I would have chosen a different winner, but that is my opinion on what I saw on stage. What happens during the interview, which is 50%, determines a lot. What makes everyone believe it was rigged? Do you have hard facts, or just opinions? Seriously, I would like to know. -- fan of Idaho America, 15:45:30 10/14/09 Wed Not friends and I don't even know her. I could not believe what I read about the pageant being fixed and the girl that wrote the article seems to have known enough to get it in a BSU paper. How did she do that? This place is weird and I find it weird to visit a place where people are so mean to each other. Do you have information on the director. I don't care to spaek to past judges. That would not help (NT) -- ?, 16:47:44 10/14/09 Wed Mandi's email address is mrsidaho2003@yahoo.com (NT) -- Idaho fan, 17:31:12 10/14/09 Wed I am sorry you thought I wouldn't be helpful. You stated "I did it last year and the director tells the judges who they want to win and it happens" and I thought if you wanted to know WHAT was TRULY said to the judges that would be helpful. Fact one, the director does not brief the judges! Fact two, we are not aware of any religious affiliation when a lady comes in for interview or in any other area of competition. Fact three, directors are kept away from contestants and each other in order to maintain the integrity of the program. Please do not harass Mandi. She does not deserve this....! Just quietly decide not to enter and please do not come on this board anymore to start mean spirited conversation. Look in the mirror before pointing at others as being mean. Your actions are hurting people you don't even know. (NT) -- Judge (my info is above), 23:48:18 10/14/09 Wed It is so unfortunate that because the person one expects to win doesn't, people assume the pageant is fixed. As a judge for Mrs. Idaho America 2008, I can absolutely say the pageant was not rigged. Not once did the director or staff indicate who they wanted to win or in what way I should judge. In fact, having judged many pageants over the past 20 years, it was one of the most professional run pageants. My personal scoring reflected the outcome very well. If someone is disappointed they didn't win, fair enough, but that doesn't justify saying bad things about the pageant. People can't seem to remember that they chose to have the judges form an opinion. They don't have to agree with it, but they do need to respect it. Most complaints of rigging are simply contestants who are disappointed in their placement. Please remember the real reasons for entering and the choice you made to be there. (NT) -- Heidi Ritz, 20:26:54 10/15/09 Thu Idaho is not rigged. I have to make a comment on this. I was a judge at the 2009 pageant. I must say I was very impressed. I will tell you what Mandy told us about the judging... -- Drennan Baker, 09:54:05 10/16/09 Fri I am SHOCKED by these statements! Are you kidding me? Mandi and her staff run one of the most fair pageants that I have ever seen. They spend countless hours working on behalf of the contestants. The workshops are wonderful and they bend over backwards to make the experience memorable. We are told upfront, before the pageant, EXACTLY what the judges will be told in their briefing. We know what they are told to be looking for. Not all pageants do this and that is when you "might" (notice I said might) find something fishy going on with the judging. Directors who do not tell you what they are telling the judges have more to hide than directors who tell you everything. Whoever started this thread is obvviously jealous that they did not win, or bent out of shape becuase they don't meet the minimum requirements to compete. Please take your frustrations elsewhere and do not try to sabatoge a wonderful pageant and director (NT) -- Idaho Rocks, 11:14:31 10/19/09 Mon QUIT RESPONDING OR POSTING ON THIS UNNECCESSARY THREAD!!!!!!! UNTIL THE MODERATOR DECIDES TO THROW OUT THIS TRASH IT WILL RE APPEAR EVERYTIME SOMEONE POSTS ON IT....LET'S JUST LET THIS LIE DISAPPEAR INTO THE ARCHIVES OR HOPE THE MODERATOR WILL DELETE THIS ALL TOGETHER! (NT) -- TIRED OF LIES!, 11:20:41 10/19/09 Mon What are the minimum requirements to compete? Didn't realize there was such a thing? (NT) -- would like to compete, 12:56:26 10/19/09 Mon You must provide a birth certificate (to verify you were born a girl) and a marriage license (to make sure you are legally married, to a man) (NT) -- Pretty easy to qualify, 22:33:40 10/19/09 Mon Email the director for the information or look on their site. There are other important factors. It is a MRS and as far as some states are concerned the law says you have to be married to a man. Why a women that is not married to a man would want to enter is beyond me...? (NT) -- That was a silly response "_, 23:06:20 10/19/09 Mon

Subject: Fairness of Mrs Idaho America
Author: Sher Finke [Edit]	Date Posted: 09:13:37 10/14/09 Wed I help direct the Mrs Idaho America pageant. We have sat by year after year while someone anonomously attacks us in the voy boards. My daughters and I have been involved in pageants for nearly 20 years with numerous systems. I have seen the best and the worst of the people involved. Say what you like about how we run the pageant but NEVER question our integrity or that of our auditor. We did not know Jamie before the pageant and never discussed who we wanted to win with the judges. Every year the judges are given the same instructions. These are the same instructions that we share with our contestants at workshop! We offer two workshops to our contestants. We also make the same offer to everyone to meet individually with any contestant who ASKS! If a past contestant did not get the help she wanted - then she did not ask! By the way, Jamie did not ask for individual help prior to pageant - therefore she did not receive any. If you wish to speak with any of us directly, we are easy to find and happy to respond to you personally. Sher Finke [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It is so unfortunate that because the person one expects to win doesn't, people assume the pageant is fixed. As a judge for Mrs. Idaho America 2008, I can absolutely say the pageant was not rigged. Not once did the director or staff indicate who they wanted to win or in what way I should judge. In fact, having judged many pageants over the past 20 years, it was one of the most professional run pageants. My personal scoring reflected the outcome very well. If someone is disappointed they didn't win, fair enough, but that doesn't justify saying bad things about the pageant. People can't seem to remember that they chose to have the judges form an opinion. They don't have to agree with it, but they do need to respect it. Most complaints of rigging are simply contestants who are disappointed in their placement. Please remember the real reasons for entering and the choice you made to be there. (NT) -- Heidi Ritz, 20:26:54 -- Heidi Ritz, 09:16:47 10/16/09 Fri Also the poster that said she competed the year I judge, you may email me as well. You may or may not like my feedback but I will truthfully comment on what I saw in you, if I can remember you. This is not the place to find out the truth rather a place to boast lies and hurtful comments, and by even posting this thread in the first place I question your intention all together. A true titleholder would not go about retrieving information or truths from a Gossip Chat Board, that speaks volumes to your character. The ONLY people that know about these vile boards are people in pageantry...most new to pageantry do not even know these boards are here therefore get their information from the Director, Former Titleholders, and Former Contestants (with names). This is very disappointing that a director can work so hard to provide a service only to be slandered with lies....you give directing a try and deal with this insanity! -- ordirector@comcast.net, Libby Crawford If you would like an intelligent conversation on how I judged in 2008 then email me., 09:21:09 10/16/09 Fri Idaho is not rigged. I have to make a comment on this. I was a judge at the 2009 pageant. I must say I was very impressed. I will tell you what Mandy told us about the judging... -- Drennan Baker, 09:54:05 10/16/09 Fri -- Drennan Baker, 09:54:05 10/16/09 Fri, 10:47:01 10/16/09 Fri I am SHOCKED by these statements! Are you kidding me? Mandi and her staff run one of the most fair pageants that I have ever seen. They spend countless hours working on behalf of the contestants. The workshops are wonderful and they bend over backwards to make the experience memorable. We are told upfront, before the pageant, EXACTLY what the judges will be told in their briefing. We know what they are told to be looking for. Not all pageants do this and that is when you "might" (notice I said might) find something fishy going on with the judging. Directors who do not tell you what they are telling the judges have more to hide than directors who tell you everything. Whoever started this thread is obvviously jealous that they did not win, or bent out of shape becuase they don't meet the minimum requirements to compete. Please take your frustrations elsewhere and do not try to sabatoge a wonderful pageant and director (NT) -- Idaho Rocks, -- Idaho Rocks, 15:59:10 10/19/09 Mon I 'm happy to add my comments to the integrity of the Mrs. Idaho America Pageant. I was a judge for the 2009 pageant and was so impressed with the organized professional manner in which the pageant was conducted. As a judge we were given instructions to vote for the woman that WE felt would make the best Mrs. Idaho America 2009. In no way were we influenced by the directors of the pageant. The outcome of the pageant totally reflected my scoring as well. Jamie was warm and friendly during her interview. During swimsuit and evening gown competition she showed confidence, poise and beauty. I was impressed by several ladies in the pageant , Jamie stood out in my professional and personal opinion having judged and directed beauty pageants. I was impressed by the judging packet presented to us to fairly let each woman shine and let us know them on a personal level. I feel the judging was fair and well organized that I would like to incorporate many aspects of it into my own pageants. -- April Elzinga-I will be happy to answer any questions as well., 16:03:27 10/19/09 Mon

Subject: Fun to watch
Author: State Delegate 2010 [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:17:50 10/16/09 Fri Always heard about how Colorado was a huge pageant. I found the crowning on youtube. I LOVE THAT RUNWAY!!!! I think that moment to shine gets missed so much for the Mrs. contestants. Reminds me of my Miss Days. Looks like a fun pageant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQBK0ztQZ8k [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Here's Texas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IxCF7MXazs -- OP, 14:24:09 10/16/09 Fri NY is on youtube too! -- love these!, 07:29:50 10/17/09 Sat I couldn't find NY?!? (NT) -- 'New York' search brings up too much.., 17:03:30 10/17/09 Sat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r1Wc5Z_fRs So funny when the crown falls over her face! Great video! (NT) -- I love these!, 07:42:47 10/18/09 Sun

Subject: This is awful! why would someone even post a new message asking about negativity???? This is pageantry... we are to focus on strengths, helping others and the good in all. STOP THE NEGATIVITY!
Author: Proud to be a Mrs. America State Titlehodler [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:45:32 09/24/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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How correct is this! My Mrs america experience was a 10! I will never foget it (NT) -- Go Mrs america, 07:53:56 09/24/09 Thu I have to agree, Mrs. A was a 10 for me as well. The best part was the AWESOME ladies I met. It was a terrific experience and trust me it is not the location and events that make it special. (NT) -- Proud Title Holder, 09:19:24 09/24/09 Thu I agree. I did not want to win my state title only to go to MRs. America. I did feel that going was a huge bonus and I had tons fo fun and I am honored to say that I went ! (NT) -- GO MRS AMERICA, 12:08:17 09/24/09 Thu YAY!!!!! It's just the sore losers who ruin their national experience because they don't win saying all this garbage. SO WAH!!! Deal with it! And stop trying to ruin it for those who believe in this system! (NT) -- Mrs. America IS #1, 14:18:52 09/24/09 Thu Same here!! No matter what may or may not have gone wrong, I loved my time at this year's Mrs. America pageant!! I am so thankful I was able to be there representing my state. Plus I made amazing, life long friends. Just the experience of meeting the other wonderful women, was worth every minute of it! (NT) -- No matter what happened I loved my experience !!, 17:10:57 09/24/09 Thu I also have made friends for life and had so much fun at mrs america. It was a 10 (NT) -- mrs am all the way, 10:31:14 09/25/09 Fri I am so glad to see this post, finally something good as I too had great time at nationals and am so honored to have went. I know there would be plenty of other women who would have taken my place. (NT) -- Honored to be a part of the Mrs. America pageant, 12:01:05 09/25/09 Fri 2009 delegate here and the experience is one of a kind-meeting all the ladies, making friends, etc... but the pageant end is a joke-nothing like it used to be, unorganized, no fame, no free stuff, and lame but the fact that I was there and got to experience it all is what I went for. Enjoy working your state and make new friends at Nationals but don't expect much from the pageant itself! (NT) -- Just me!, 11:10:07 09/26/09 Sat I too was a contestant this year and the pageant IS NOT a joke!! And I didn't realize we all entered for fame and free stuff!!! I was there to have an enjoyable experience, meet other married women from around the USA, and represent my state to the best of my ability. Apparently others were there for different reasons. I encourage any married woman who is interested in competing for a Mrs. title to compete in the Mrs. America system. (NT) -- 2009 Mrs., 12:53:20 09/26/09 Sat I think from some posts, conversations, & the "webcast" that we can all agree that Mrs. America has changed-it is not the same caliber we all knew and desired to attend. Some serious changes need to be made if this pageant's reputation is to get back on track. One thing all the ladies can agree on, it seems, is that they truly made friendships, made the best of it, and have lifelong memories-let's celebrate that! (NT) -- Enough already!, 18:20:50 09/26/09 Sat Not everyone has to be in it for the same reasons. Don't judge others for why they may compete. (NT) -- friendships are great but a quality pageant is what we are all hoping for (nobody wants a non-quality pageant, do they??), 15:04:01 09/27/09 Sun Good for you lady!!!!! A true pageant Queen. Gotta admit, I never, ever thought about prizes when I competed and when I won, the thought never occurred to me regarding costs for appearances. I was concerned with promoting the organization and having a great time as a state Mrs. Call me nieve, but I had a great time! I felt sooooooo blessed for the experience. (NT) -- and didn't ask for or look for anything in return. the gift was mine to receive!!!, 19:04:23 09/27/09 Sun Why did you say "good for you lady"?? (NT) -- I don't undestand the reason you said it. I hope you are not being mean spirited., 22:33:22 09/27/09 Sun she's responding to the original poster of this thread...the one about being at nationals this year and it's not a joke. Look above... (NT) -- Marney, 11:44:07 09/28/09 Mon I'm not sure what is so awful, I have missed a post or something but I do have to say my Mrs. America experience was shocking! I will not support it on a national level after what I witnessed a couple of years ago but I do support any honest state pageants. I love pageantry but after seeing what I saw at the America pageant I cannot support it! It is not negativity it is just truth. I do know many people have wonderful experiences and I have to say I loved the ladies my year, it had nothing to do with the girls. (NT) -- truth not negativity, 12:41:51 10/17/09 Sat

Subject: The Mrs. Idaho America Pageant is fair and unbiased.

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April Elzinga
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Date Posted: 11:02:41 10/16/09 Fri

I am happy to add my comments to the integrity of the Mrs. Idaho America Pageant. I was a judge for the 2009 pageant and was so impressed with the organized professional manner in which the pageant was conducted. As a judge we were given instructions to vote for the woman that WE felt would make the best Mrs. Idaho America 2009. In no way were we influenced by the directors of the pageant. The outcome of the pageant totally reflected my scoring as well. Jamie was warm and friendly during her interview. During swimsuit and evening gown competition she showed confidence, poise and beauty. I was very impressed by several ladies in the pageant but Jamie stood out in my professional and personal opinion having judged and directed beauty pageants. I was so impressed by the judging packet presented to us to fairly let each woman shine and let us know them on a personal level. I feel the judging was so fair and well organized that I would like to incorporate many aspects of it into my own pageants. I will be happy to answer any questions as well.
April Elzinga

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Subject: The Ultimate Beauty Pageant Notebook
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Has anyone used this book? -- Worth it?, 09:47:10 10/16/09 Fri bump!!!! -- please..., 10:34:31 10/16/09 Fri

Subject: Where has all the possitive things about pageants gone to?
Author: Pageant Fan [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:25:08 10/15/09 Thu I am so sad that some people have nothing better to do than to harass pageants and their directors or contestants. Directors work very hard to put pageants together for women in their state and yet it seems that when a lady competes and does not win her true spirit gushes out like poisonous vial. I have been visiting some of the other boards and it seems as if IDAHO has taken a beating for some time now (both systems). This is so sad; both of the state directors are trying really hard to make a name for Idaho. Ladies in Idaho you are truly lucky to have state pageants to compete in. Some states do not have state pageants. You are also lucky to have directors that care so much about pageants. I can tell you from past experience that being a director does not pay the bills. Pageant directors (most of them) direct because they love pageants and want to see women better themselves. Ladies who compete in pageants also do not deserve to be down graded for winning or not winning. Each lady has stepped out of her comfort zone to compete in a pageant. We all know that when we sign up for a pageant there can only be ONE winner. If you do not realize this then maybe you should look into another hobby. I have seen for some time now that pageants are becoming more of a negative than a positive and it is making me very sad. Pageants are my hobby and I use to love being involved but now I am thinking about taking up another hobby. Not that I would be missed in the pageant life, but I just think of the many wonderful ladies out there who have been bashed time and time again. I would really hate to see some of them leave the pageant world. Same goes for directors. I would really hate to lose directors that care so much about the contestants. As far as �rigging� a pageant, come on! Do you really think that the directors, judges or auditors would jeopardize their name or integrity of their business or daily lives for a pageant? I know as a judge if a director every came to me and said I want xxx to win I would leave right then and there. I would then go to the press about it. I have never heard of a judge going to any press about a rigged pageant have you? Like I said pageants are a hobby, if you do not like the hobby you are involved in maybe it is time for a change. How about instead of bashing a pageant or contestant we start to find the positive things in pageant again! Remember things we appreciate only get better, thing we depreciate only get worse. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Of course pageants can be rigged! Where have you been? -- geez, 14:43:13 10/15/09 Thu My question to you is WHY would we put $5,000 to $10,000 dollars into a production and countless hours to "RIG" a pageant? Are you serious!? I would love for you to come work with me and see how it is done, open invitation...I will pay your airfare and hotel and you can see for yourself. How is that for transparency? -- Oregon Director, 16:56:41 10/15/09 Thu If you don't want people to suggest that you "rig" your pageant, then you need to change the way you do things to prove you don't "rig" it. Be extremely careful who your judges are and don't let them anywhere near the contestants ahead of time. Take every precaution in order to maintain the standard that you feel you set with your directorship. Then, and only then, will the negative talk stop. You're obviously doing something to make these women feel this way, so pay better attention. -- Concerned for those who pay THOUSANDS to compete!, 17:09:26 10/15/09 Thu No red flags, just Sybil talking to her multiples.... -- will be ingnoring her now!, 22:34:56 10/15/09 Thu I fully believe something has gone wrong in the pageant, as it is more than one lady speculating. Def a red flag somewhere since this is the first time I've ever seen a massive negative post about this pageant on any board. The director needs to correct whatever she's doing wrong so this doesn't happen again. -- my 2 cents, 05:10:35 10/16/09 Fri Being a director is HARD work and you get very little if any money in return. If contestants only knew how hard it was to direct a pageant I am sure the directors would get more respect. -- been there, 17:10:18 10/15/09 Thu I know first hand how hard it is BUT there's a reason why ladies are questioning the integrity of the Idaho director. Obviously something has happened to send out some red flags and now they want answers. -- DIRECTOR in FL, 17:50:39 10/15/09 Thu I fully appreciate the OR director coming to Mandi's defense. She obviously knows Mandi very well and anyone who knows Mandi and her staff would know that they put their heart and soul into their pageant. Unless you have proof of them rigging the pageant, then please don't just speculate. Many women come back year after year to compete in the pageant or to support it. -- former contestant who will be back!, 18:04:44 10/15/09 Thu All that has happen is that someone did not win and now they are upset and want to talk bad about the pageant. So sad, if you don't like it move on I am sure the director would want you to! -- move on, 18:27:57 10/15/09 Thu

Subject: MODERATOR....I THINK BY MISTAKE YOU DELETED MY POST INSTEAD OF THE NEGATIVE THREAD ON THE MRS IDAHO PAGEANT.
Author: OREGON DIRECTOR [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:27:51 10/15/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Who wore your favorite gowns this year? What gowns did you think just did not make the cut?
Author: Just Curious [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:02:49 09/16/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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LOVED Maine's gown! Not many women can pull of horizontal stripes, but she did! (NT) -- from MT, 12:18:01 09/16/09 Wed Lost my breath when Maine came out on stage during prelims!! That gown was incredible! Does anyone know who the designer is? (NT) -- anyone?, 18:14:05 09/20/09 Sun NC gown was so pretty, that pale blue looked wonderful with her darker hair. (NT) -- Marney, 12:19:10 09/16/09 Wed So many to love. Mrs. Mrs. Washington and Mrs. Idaho's were the only ones I did not care for. Mrs. Idaho gown looked like some kind of spring prom dress. Not a pageant gown. (NT) -- Not to be mean but this is my opinion from being live at pageant, 12:22:01 09/16/09 Wed Idaho wore a very promy gown when she won state as well (NT) -- she's cute though, 15:20:38 09/16/09 Wed NC, MI, Yes Andera! (NT) -- Just Beautiful ladies, 14:24:56 09/16/09 Wed Missouri, Texas, Oklahoma, too many to mention here. SO many were gorgeous! (NT) -- gown nut, 19:29:56 09/16/09 Wed Mrs. Idaho won that at state? Why did they not tell her to do a up grade for Mrs. America. It was a dress not a gown. (NT) -- She is a CT though, 07:40:35 09/17/09 Thu Should have stated it was more like a prom dress not something you would wear in a pageant (NT) -- Very cute, 07:43:15 09/17/09 Thu Idaho worn a black and white gown for state that was really hip and she wore a pale blue for Nationals pre lims. She wore the black and white state gown at the parade of gowns during finals. Two different gowns. (NT) -- She had advise. Idaho works with their ladies., 09:14:38 09/17/09 Thu Well that "adviCe" didn't pay off, did it? The gown she wore for states was very teenish, but it fit her cute personality and look. But at a national level, it didn't cut it. (NT) -- She was too tiny to place anyway, 09:55:23 09/17/09 Thu Please stop being so catty! (NT) -- The "too tiny to place" comment is just plain mean and hurtful, 10:39:31 09/17/09 Thu Then you aren't a true pageant fan because any true pageant fan would know that someone that tiny has no chance of placing in the Mrs. America Pageant or any other national pageant. She's cute and would have prob done well during her teen years in pageants, but that's about it. (NT) -- Speaking the truth....tough to hear, I know, 10:49:23 09/17/09 Thu Being a "true pageant fan" is about supporting the ladies. It's not about tearing them down, especially due to something they can't control. Women should be supporting one another. It's not only part of being a good "Mrs.", but it's also part of being a good human being. (NT) -- The truth hurts, I know., 12:16:10 09/17/09 Thu Being a true pageant fan involves knowing what the judges are looking for and knowing who has it and who doesn't. Putting yourself out there in pageant style is going to get you critisism, whether it be good or bad, so get a thick skin or don't play! (NT) -- Simple as that, 15:19:56 09/17/09 Thu I thought the gown did look like a teen pageant. She looks like a teen. She would have really done well as a teen butt she was so tiny and so teen looking it cost her. Maybe in Idaho they don't think about that the winner will be heading to Mrs. America but teens dont and she really was sweet but looked way to young to be with the Mrs. The truth always hurts. (NT) -- She is cute but cute as a teen. I did think she was very sweet., 08:24:25 09/18/09 Fri NC, SC, IN, and NE....just gorgeous!! (NT) -- fan, 19:01:58 09/17/09 Thu Maine had the most beautiful gown on! My mouth dropped when I saw it! (NT) -- Good Pick!, 08:30:53 09/18/09 Fri She wore it for states too. (NT) -- fan, 09:50:16 09/18/09 Fri Just looking at the gowns-was NY's animal print? Anyone see it up close and in person-wondering how it looked? (NT) -- NOT BASHING so don't start! :), 13:16:25 09/18/09 Fri NY's gown was an animal print....it was pretty and very different than the rest!! She carried it beautifully (NT) -- saw it, 16:09:24 09/18/09 Fri It looks pretty in the pics but what is too different? Did it have a train? Ny is very pretty and I think she could pull off a paper bag if she had to! Apparently it didn't stand out enough tho... (NT) -- Checking..., 07:24:11 09/19/09 Sat What about LA purple dress very classy! (NT) -- girly, 14:35:14 09/19/09 Sat LA's gown was my favorite -- loved that color. (NT) -- Not from Louisiana, 16:45:37 09/19/09 Sat That was probably my least fave gown there. It was TOO much purple! Way overdone. (NT) -- Simplicity is always best Lighter tone gowns look best, 17:22:31 09/19/09 Sat There was nothing overdone about that gown. And lighter tones are not always better on everyone. I think it showed her personality and flare and it was gorgeous on her. She made it work. And you should have heard MANY of the other contestants give her compliments on it. (NT) -- Just because it was YOUR least favorite does not make it a bad gown or bad choice. Stay positive, 18:21:54 09/19/09 Sat If lighter is better, wouldn't that have affected last year's outcome? Maureen wore navy! It's the girl not the gown and kudos to those that wear what they love! (NT) -- Thinking outside the box for 2010!, 19:02:25 09/19/09 Sat Mrs. America's gown wasn't simple, and five of the semi-finalists (including the 1st runner up) had dark or bright gowns. (NT) -- In the audience., 20:10:04 09/19/09 Sat You know, many did not like Maine's gown as those stripes would be very unflattering to many. It was a beautiful gown, however it really didn't stand out and wasn't up to par with many of the other gowns there. NC gown was my absolute fave!! Julie looked stunning! (NT) -- veronica, 08:10:46 10/10/09 Sat There were several really pretty dresses: Louisiana loved the color, Kentucky loved the style on her, Nevada great choice for her and the dress was stunning, my overall favorite was Texas. It was classy and elegant and the back was amazing. (NT) -- Audience Member, 15:05:14 09/19/09 Sat Personally, I loved the red gown that ILLINOIS wore. It was simplicity at it's finest. She looked amazing in the gown and it was the only red gown on stage. (NT) -- Fan of RED, 16:06:18 09/19/09 Sat Wasn't that gown worn by a Miss contestant a couple of years ago at USA? (NT) -- Or America?, 21:25:24 09/19/09 Sat There were several dresses that have been seen before. To answer your question and to name a few more: IL was wearing a Sherri Hill worn by WI America a couple years ago, but a leg slit was added. AZ wore the trademark Sherri Hill lace gown that many styles and gown renditions come from. CT wore a Sherri Hill that's been at Miss America and Miss USA the last couple years. Lots of classics and lots of new designs as well. (NT) -- I was impressed with all the great gowns this year. Audience member, 11:27:44 09/20/09 Sun Some more: IN wore a Sherri Hill in pink with a shoulder strap that Miss WV USA wore in blue, KY wore a Miss NE America gown only in black, WI was also in the Sherri Hill Lace with a different design, and WY wore the same dress that Mrs. MO wore when she won state (NT) -- These ladies all pulled them off beautifully and it's nice that so many dresses are versatile as are the women in them!, 12:52:03 09/20/09 Sun Loved the jewel-tones of LA and IL and MN. IA was beautiful in bright pink (NT) -- color all the way!, 17:00:53 09/19/09 Sat Ilinois' gown reminded me of "Jessica Rabbit"!! Very beautiful gown and stunning state rep. Was kinda disappointed that she did not make top ten. Our state winner said she was one of the nicest contestants at the pageant. You just never know, I guess. (NT) -- My 2 cents, 14:17:45 09/20/09 Sun Yes, I thought that she looked beautiful in that gown also. There were so many pretty ladies, I'm sure that the judges had a hard time choosing just 10 for the finals. (NT) -- Mrs. A fan, 17:09:56 09/20/09 Sun Love the simple elegance of Tennessee's black strapless gown. Very regal. (NT) -- evening gown is my favorite part!, 18:54:10 09/23/09 Wed When the web cast FINALLY completed downloading, and I got to see the EG's on stage and how the beautiful women moved in them,my favorite pick has changed to Hawaii. The way the gown glistened,and moved-WOW! The pictures that were posted didn't do any of the gowns justice! (NT) -- Beautiful year! Not so beautiful "web-cast"!, 05:04:18 09/24/09 Thu the gowns this year were amazing. The best I have seen (NT) -- GOWNS, 07:52:57 09/24/09 Thu Top 10 gowns at Mrs. America: Hawaii, Illinois, North Carolina, New York, Virginia, Tennessee, Vermont, Michigan, Kentucky, Delaware- loved the variety this year from solid color to animal print to sequined-awesome! (NT) -- IMHO, 13:16:20 09/24/09 Thu Wow!!! (NT) -- Interesting, 11:42:49 10/01/09 Thu Hawaii (NT) -- cc, 15:35:55 10/14/09 Wed NC dress was stunning. I love the color. I also liked PA becuase it looked really elegant. What did everyone think about PA? I was shocked that she did not make the top 6. I thought she had great stage presence then some of the others. (NT) -- curious, 18:24:36 10/01/09 Thu I thought PA was beautiful and very poised. It is very tough to do well at Mrs. America if you are petite, though. (NT) -- In the audience., 19:09:30 10/01/09 Thu I think she shouldn't have changed from the white gown to the black! The white gown at prelims was very elegant and that's what she made top 11 in. Didn't she and NY have the same gown person that sponsored their dresses? (NT) -- white not the black, 13:22:11 10/02/09 Fri Andrea's!! (NT) -- ;-), 13:18:42 10/12/09 Mon loved...VT GA LA CT SC UT NH MD WV TX (NT) -- not a fan of WA OR NY DC, 10:24:53 10/15/09 Thu

Subject: This made it to a BSU paper!
Author: I can see why many would not want to compete in Idaho [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:22:17 10/14/09 Wed I�ll Never Be Mrs. Idaho America By Joan Opyr, 9-28-06 As if there weren't enough going on in the world to gag a dog off a gut wagon . . . A few days ago, I received an invitation from Amanda Feely (call her Mandi!) to enter the Mrs. Idaho America beauty pageant. The rules are simple: fill out and sign the application form, send them a photograph and fifty bucks, and find myself a couple of suckers . . . I mean sponsors. Then, I might, just might, qualify as an entrant. What's the hold up? Well first, although I've been happily married for 14 years, I am not legally married. Under current Idaho law, same-sex couples cannot wed. Second, entrants are required to have been born female. As far as I know, I was born female, but without a genetic test, who can say? Not you, not me, and not the damned fools running this beauty contest. I wonder: does the female-born-female requirement mean that the intersexed cannot enter? What about XY women? Or XX men? There are XX women and XX men. There are XXX and XXY women. There are enough combinations of X and Y to keep the genetically paranoid busy for weeks. Is Mrs. Idaho America prepared to check DNA at the door? A quick cheek swab and then on to Mrs. Congeniality? Or do we all lift our skirts and hope for the best? These, according to the brochure, are the putative areas of competition: Judges Interview: 50% A panel comprised of God-knows-who will "critique each delegate's ability to communicate, her personality, self-expression, her achievements and her beauty." Wow. Doesn't that sound fun? I wonder if the judges understand the physical language of Tae Kwon Do? Or a Taser? What could be more beautiful, more communicative, more expressively redolent of personality and feminine (feminist) achievement than a good ass-kicking from Aeon Flux? I don't mean to spoil the movie for anyone, but in the end, we learn that Aeon is married. We also learn that she's cloned. Perhaps that's a disqualification. Evening Gown Competition: 25% This is true freedom: you get to pick your own dress. In the evenings, I like to wear a pair of bright orange sweatpants and a T-shirt that says The Only Bush I Trust Is My Own. Gentlemen, I'm ready for my close-up! Physical Fitness and Health: 25% How do the judges determine this? A treadmill test? A quick jerk and snap? As this is Mrs. Idaho America, how about hefting a baby in one arm and a sack of potatoes in the other? No? Oh. It's a swimsuit competition. Bummer. Finally, there's a "State Costume Competition," the outcome of which does not effect who wins or loses the pageant. In which case, why bother? I can only guess at what a state costume might be -- a costume that represents Idaho? Do you want to be Lewis or Clark? Or perhaps a tap-dancing baked spud? Our new state quarter features a Peregrine Falcon. Anyone got a bird suit? If not, we might borrow that outfit worn by the mascot of the University of South Carolina's Fighting Gamecocks. USC's unofficial motto, printed on God-fearing Baptist bumperstickers across the state? Nobody can lick our 'Cocks! Judges, this, to me, is exemplary of that winning Mrs. Idaho America spirit. It's communicative, it's expressive, and it sure as hell has got personality. Too bad I can't enter. Too bad some of the most beautiful women I've ever known -- drag queens, transsexuals, and women with a measurable IQ -- can't enter, either. Somehow, I think we just might represent the State of Idaho with more grace and aplomb than Mandi Feely and the Mrs. Idaho America organizers could ever hope to muster. And, what's more, we could do it without the $500 Sponsor Fee and mandatory $200 Ad Page. Imagine that. Like this story? Get more [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Here are the comments that were posted after the on-line one came out. http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/ill_never_be_mrs_idaho_america/C136/L136/#comments (NT) -- see for yourself, 15:24:54 10/14/09 Wed 3 year old paper....give me a BREAK!!! -- if you are letting these type of people make your mind up for you we really need to TALK about that, 15:36:08 10/14/09 Wed Some of the comments are from 2009 pageant. Not 3 years ago. (NT) -- Yes it bothered me when I was thinking about doing this pageant with a friend and she found this. I will not do a pageant that is fixed. It aslo is from a paper they run at BSU (.), 16:51:36 10/14/09 Wed Is the lady that wrote this the one who is bad mouthing your pageant? Just wondering and I also see kim, sheri speaking out but can I get a hold of Mandi who it talks about? (NT) -- ., 16:55:31 10/14/09 Wed When reading this article did any of you get the impression that this women is gay? If so you can see why she might dislike pageants in general. (NT) -- Not being judgemental about her sexual preferences., 17:11:55 10/14/09 Wed

Subject: How many of you think that Mrs. America will win Mrs. World this year?
Author: EBONYDIVA [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:23:10 10/08/09 Thu Go Andrea!!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I really don't think she'll win. -- I hope not...I like her as Mrs. A, 17:14:30 10/08/09 Thu Not this year. -- sorry, 17:59:32 10/08/09 Thu I personally don't like the look of our current Mrs. World. Evry time you see a pic of her it looks like she just rolled out of bed ............... if you know what I mean !!!!! -- Love Andrea as Mrs. A but would fab as Mrs. World!!!!!!, 06:50:12 10/09/09 Fri she will win and MN will be the new Mrs America....... -- crossing my fingers, 11:17:13 10/11/09 Sun What is Maureen's status for Mrs World? I heard she might be allowed to compete? I think it is a shame she didn't have a chance to compete when she held the Mrs America title. (NT) -- No Name, 17:24:26 10/11/09 Sun Maureen is no longer Mrs. America, therefore she will not be allowed to compete at Mrs. World. (NT) -- Andrea will compete, 17:45:14 10/11/09 Sun MUREEN SHOULD JUDGE -- That way she still gets to go, 13:42:50 10/13/09 Tue She is going. In what capacity, no one knows, but she is going. So are a handful of others. -- Best of Luck to Andrea, 15:27:39 10/13/09 Tue who are the handful of others? -- ?, 18:21:19 10/13/09 Tue

Subject: size/weight
Author: Thanks in advance. [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:19:11 10/13/09 Tue Hi ladies. I posted on another board about and ideal weight for someone who is 5'5" and has a medium bone structure and athletic/muscular build. A lady responded stating that she is 5'10" and a size 4 and is considered too big for pageants. Since I am training for my state Mrs. America pageant, I wanted input from you all. Please help, I can't be a 0, my bones alone are too big, lol. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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For your height, you should weigh between 105 - 120. That's a healthy weight for someone your height and bone structure and very proportionate for this competition. -- good luck, 14:40:19 10/13/09 Tue Do not worry about numbers on a scale. What do you look like in the mirror? Do you look fit and healthy? Then you are good to go. Size, shape, bone structure, genetics all play a part into what is a good weight for you. Mrs. America contestants are all shapes and sizes. Bring all of your best and you will be set -- good luck and have fun!, 15:30:56 10/13/09 Tue

Subject: Our former Mrs. Idaho America did the Mrs. Idaho International pageant last weekend placing 4th runner up. We were all very proud of her.
Author: Lauralyn [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:59:03 09/29/09 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Which former? (NT) -- :), 09:05:05 09/29/09 Tue Lauralyn Salinas, she looked amazing and should have placed higher then 4th runner up (NT) -- Was at the pageant and am also very proud of her!, 10:11:58 09/29/09 Tue She was Mrs. Idaho America 2007. I still can't believe myself that she palced 4th. (NT) -- Interesting out come. Brandi Townsand won who competed in Idaho America this year and did not even place in the top 6. She is beautiful and will do well. Just wanted to see Lauralyn higher than 4th, 10:37:05 09/29/09 Tue Just goes to show...different pageant, different set of judges, different result (NT) -- classic example, 11:28:31 09/29/09 Tue So Lauralynn made this post herself? She signed it... (NT) -- how odd, 11:27:20 09/29/09 Tue It is probably not her, the op just put the name of the person she was talking about in the name spot (NT) -- =), 18:16:13 09/29/09 Tue Who does that?? I have NEVER put someone else's name in the name line.... (NT) -- that's a little unusual, 20:10:49 09/29/09 Tue Well, maybe it is someone who is not used to posting on these boards. No need to start anything over nothing. (NT) -- =), 08:13:56 09/30/09 Wed I do not know Lauralyn but I watched the Idaho Intl pageant online webcast and I was shocked she didnt place 1st runner up or winner. She definitely was the prettiest. When they called off the 4th and then 3rd, I thought it was backwards! (NT) -- Different systems definitely look for different things!, 18:22:15 09/30/09 Wed Don't you think she feels bad enough for not placing closer to winner. Come on let's talk about something else. (NT) -- enough about Laura, 11:40:28 10/01/09 Thu Why? Is Lauralynn devastated she didn't win? (NT) -- please..., 10:35:39 10/02/09 Fri Just my take...it sounds like many of those there felt she should not have been 4th RU and should have been much higher up on that list. So sometimes, when you have enough people who really feel like it was an out of place outcome for you, it tends to take the sting away to know so many "other" judges saw you in a better light. I saw the webcast. She was lovely and well spoken. She was top notch. I wouldn't let the 4th Ru spot fool anyone. That gal is a contender and I hope she returns to a system again. (NT) -- if that makes sense., 13:23:41 10/02/09 Fri FYI: Lauraly is not devastated by not winning the pageant. She and Brandi are friends and Lauralyn is truly thrilled for her win. Of course she had hoped that she would be going to nationals but she knows that Brandi will do a great job. She is a very grounded person who has so much in her life besides pageants and she is not the type to be devasted over it. This is why so many of us in Idaho love her and think that she is great. She doesn't need a title to do amazing things. (NT) -- Class Act in Idaho, 22:19:04 10/03/09 Sat lauralynsalinas.blogspot.com- Laura has a new web site. I saw this on another board (NT) -- N/A, 12:06:13 10/13/09 Tue

Subject: Hopeful Mrs. GA Contestant
Author: Southern Belle [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:15:57 10/12/09 Mon Hello ladies, I have been following the boards for a while and I am a veteran Miss pageant competitor. But now after 3 years of marriage I have decided that I would love a chance at my state Mrs. America title. Just so I can better prepare ... WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST TO DO? What makes this pageant different from other Mrs. pageants. Where to do I need to invest my money (i.e. wardrobe, coaching, photos, etc.) Where can I SAVE money? I am starting my work out routine today ... and I will be honest, I have never really worked out in my life, so I know this is going to be the greatest challenge for me. Any advice on how I can stay motivated regarding working out. Or an easier way to do it? ANY Advice is appreciated. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE LADIES! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If you've competed in the Miss USA system, then you're a step ahead already. Mrs. America is the same except you're married! Interviews, swimsuit, gown...Your interviews will consist of the same type of questions with marriage talked about also. Swimsuit is self explanatory. Evening Gown is sexy yet classy look (not too much cleavage hanging out). I suggest you watch this past nationals (you'll find it on YouTube) to get an idea of gowns. Look at photos of the contestants on the website (www.mrsamerica.com). You'll do just fine! -- former Mrs Rep, 07:04:51 10/13/09 Tue

Subject: MRS. INDIANA AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Author: Nicole Brink - Director [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:03:34 10/12/09 Mon Attention! If you want to become the next Mrs. Indiana America 2010 enter today! Time is running out to enter this coming year's pageant at a deeply discounted price!!! Visit our website for more details - www.mrsindiana.com! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: MRS OREGON AMERICA PAGEANT IS NOVEMBER 1, 2009 AT 3PM. WWW.MRSOREGON.NET
Author: check out the class of 2010 [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:59:18 10/05/09 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: I heard a few of the prizes but not all. Did she win a car, scooter, or the 50K in jewels?
Author: wondering [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:55:24 09/14/09 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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No, she did not. My rep came home with all kinds of stories of disappointment. (NT) -- NM, 16:09:40 09/15/09 Tue They announced the prizes at finals, but I didn't hear them all with all the excitement of the crowning....it started off with a $10k evening gown wardrobe from a NY designer, $5k in Levian Watches; $5k in designer Jeweled Handbag Wardrobe; a shearling fur coat from a NY furrier valued at $5k; there were several other prizes valued at $1k to $5k but I can't remember all of them. A very very nice price package compared to other national pageants. (NT) -- still the best prizes, even without the car, 08:16:26 09/16/09 Wed I knew the prize package was a good one. Tsk Tsk to those who are trying to make it less than it is to make ladies not want to compete. Mrs. America is the best! (NT) -- Marney, 10:02:03 09/16/09 Wed Just my opinion, but I really don't like the idea of a fur coat as a prize. There is just too much contraversy with furriers. I really wouldn't want to be seen wearing a dead animal while representing American women. It's horrible abuse to animals & contraversial. (NT) -- Just one opinion, 07:34:01 09/18/09 Fri I agree! BUT ... how about sell the coat and donate the $$ to PETA? (NT) -- blinger, 10:46:21 09/18/09 Fri Re: Why draw the line at fur coats? Why not criticize the pageant for serving meat at mealtime, boycott any state queen who wears leather shoes, throw out any makeup that is not from a company who guarantees no animal testing.....the list goes on. Stop being silly. (NT) -- Many women love furs! (and meat and leather, etc), 16:14:06 09/18/09 Fri Fur is a personal choice. I consider PETA a terrorist group. How I chose to spend my dollars and what I wear is NONE of your business! (NT) -- No Name, 21:12:09 09/25/09 Fri I'll take the fur... PETA is not a group that I agree with in any way! so send over the steak rare and I'll take the fur coat!!! (NT) -- silly!, 17:45:13 09/18/09 Fri Re: I'll take the fur... PETA is not a group that I agree with in any way! so send over the steak rare and I'll take the fur coat!!! (NT) -- I agree, 09:02:01 09/19/09 Sat LOL ..... I love it!!!!! (NT) -- carnivore, 09:07:54 09/19/09 Sat She did win good prizes this year (NT) -- Congrats to our new Mrs. America, 11:58:43 09/25/09 Fri I KNEW when I posted that one of the prizes was a fur, someone would bring up the PETA thing...it never ceases to amaze me that no matter WHAT the Mrs. America Pageant does or doesn't do, it will never be right or enough for some people. ANY opportunity to cut the pageant down, and they will take it. The prize package was AMAZING, and I would have loved to have just ONE of the prizes, INCLUDING the freakin' fur coat!!! (NT) -- bash "this", 09:05:57 09/26/09 Sat With organ donations being such a popular subject.....just think of the fur coat as Organ Donation!!! Besides, all the other by products of the animal went into your dog food, cat food, chicken feed, etc. Spend some time on the farm and you might appreciate the circle of life a little more! (NT) -- Fun Thoughts, 18:37:08 10/01/09 Thu I am not a PETA member or anything, but comparing a fur coat to organ donation is ridiculous. A fur coat isn't a gift of life, nor is it vital to someone's health. (NT) -- That's insane., 11:45:20 10/03/09 Sat ROTFLOL very funny! (NT) -- ..., 18:43:40 10/03/09 Sat

Subject: Broadcast
Author: Future Contestant [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:31:16 09/22/09 Tue Is tonight the only time we can watch the broadcast or will it be set up in such a way that we can go watch it whenever we want after it airs tonight? I'm on the east coast and can't imagine watching it from 10pm to midnight! Thanks in advance! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The broadcast starts at 7pm EST -- It's already an hour in on the East coast, 16:58:59 09/22/09 Tue that's 7pm PST....not EST -- we're not starting with that again, are we?, 17:45:27 09/22/09 Tue Have the same question - is this our only chance at watching the pageant or will it be available after tonight. I am sooooo tired. -- ????, 18:22:26 09/22/09 Tue it is showing the last set of video clips start at 9 pacific time. I am no way going to be able to stay awake for the last set of clips to start at midnight. ugh. -- i hope it is on again., 18:39:20 09/22/09 Tue Re: it's not working anyway -- ., 19:03:06 09/22/09 Tue I was wondering if I was missing something... -- tbird, 19:07:39 09/22/09 Tue Great - Can't get it to work either. I will wait 5 more minutes and then I am done. -- getting really sick of the I am woman hear me roar song. Ha. lol., 19:08:13 09/22/09 Tue Does ANYONE have it yet?? -- ?, 19:15:44 09/22/09 Tue I still don't... -- Becky Leeman, 19:16:59 09/22/09 Tue Re: The first one is working with the intro to contestants. The 2cnd and 3rd are not downloading yet. -- ., 19:21:09 09/22/09 Tue I got it and it was 8min of the opening number & intros...now we have to wait 45min for the next video (NT) -- tired on the east coast, 19:20:37 09/22/09 Tue Re: I wish I could wait up to see the evening gowns, too late for this east coaster! (NT) -- Good night all., 19:24:00 09/22/09 Tue Not very thrilled with the broadcast thus far... they go through the pictures so fast at the end you cant see any of them, what happened to the old days when its was televised and looked so well done... I remember I used to love watching it. So different, dissapointing. -- Been waiting for today to see it, not sure why....., 19:30:10 09/22/09 Tue Thank you...please note this, and I am sure other postings, to the person that said there are no complaints, no issues and someone is trying to start trouble. No one is doing that. They are trying to keep it real for hopefuls -- wouldn't change getting to go, but wish I had known what to expect, 19:35:32 09/22/09 Tue The broadcast is aweful...I am bummed. Was so looking forward to watching, but not like this. Well, next time we know what to (NOT) expect. -- Going to bed...late on the east coast - work in the morning and my dog is ready to go up., 19:48:12 09/22/09 Tue Until we see actual national contestants making these complaints and signing their names, titles, and emails, we're not buying it. This is mostly those who prefer Mrs. Int'l or US over America starting rumors. -- not impressed, 05:29:46 09/23/09 Wed I was looking at all the photos posted on the mrsamerica.tv site (taken by Don Seidman) and I have to say that ALL the ladies shown looked like they were having a fabulous time. I truly believe it's the ones who didn't place or win anything at all who are complaining. It seems that just because you don't place it ruins the whole experience. Why can't any of them just be glad they got the opportunity to be there? -- Marney, 06:11:29 09/23/09 Wed I placed and I think it stunk. Do I count? -- keep your head in the sand if you wish, 06:17:57 09/23/09 Wed Unless you sign your name/title and email, we don't believe you were even there. -- Prove us wrong, 07:42:02 09/23/09 Wed Nothing to prove. -- Go for yourself and good luck, 07:48:23 09/23/09 Wed Then you're lying....GROW SOME BALLS!!! -- If you're gonna bitch, don't hide, 14:07:52 09/23/09 Wed you are so classy! I don't have balls thank you I am a natural born female. -- ick, 16:22:32 09/23/09 Wed Thank you. I am classy... :) But again, you're a coward if you're going to complain and not complain to the people who can make the changes. -- Sorry...you're not impressive to me...send Marmel an email and then we'll talk, 05:02:32 09/24/09 Thu ...said the Pot to the Kettle... (NT) -- that works both ways, 16:43:45 09/23/09 Wed I just jumped on this board and all I have to say is that you cannot truly expect any of the state reps to sign their names because they still have to finish their reign and who wants to have a ticked off director breathing down their neck for posting the "TRUTH" on a voy board. Believe me, they are telling the truth. I have gone to mrs. America for over 15 years and it is now at an all time low in every aspect of the production. And, yes, I will sign my name but it is so obvious that you want to keep the rose colored glasses on so I'm sure you will not believe me either. -- Jacquie Brenner, 10:14:34 09/23/09 Wed Supposedly the contestants are complaining on other boards and signing their names to their posts. So why not here? Because it's the actual Mrs. America board? Amazing how everyone has nerve on an annonymous board but doesn't have the nerve to stand up to the people (like David Marmel) and spill it to them. Contract or not, if these ladies feel cheated, they should speak up! -- Get a back bone and make a difference, 14:06:34 09/23/09 Wed It's up ro each contestant whether she wants to sign her name or not. If she chooses to, she certainly can describe her experience in a manner that offers constructive criticism to the pageant organizers and at the same time informing future delegates a glimpse of what to expect. Delegates are entitled to their opinion by sharing their personal experience, so if they do, please do not jump all over them. Each may view the pageant differently. (NT) -- nothing to worry about if you sign your name, as long as you are simply describing your experience at the pageant, 15:08:15 09/23/09 Wed As a former titleholder, I can tell you we usually won't sign our names because of 1. contractual issues (many state contracts disallow making statements without director permission), 2. getting completely slammed on here if we do, and 3. due to the fact that it only hurts our state pageant, which we love, while our complaints fall on deaf ears at nationals. I LOVED being Mrs. My State, and don't want to hurt its reputation just because I had a disappointing experience with nationals. (NT) -- just my opinion, 13:25:00 09/24/09 Thu There is nothing in the state contract AND you're a former, so it shouldn't make any difference. Possible contestants deserve the truth! (NT) -- Wouldn't you have wanted to know ahead of time??, 14:16:47 09/24/09 Thu I'm sorry, have you read my state contract? (NT) -- And I let the girls from my state know what they would have at nationals., 18:37:28 09/24/09 Thu New poster here! I am not a former but I have gone to the Mrs. America pageant formany years now. I am sorry to inform you, but these ladies are not fabricating or lying as you call it, about their experience. This pageant, at one time, was the most amazing pageant there ever was. When Baron Hilton was still involved the ladies truly received the red carper treatment. That is not the case today. I am not bashing, only stating the facts. By all means compete and relish your state title because for the most part your state pageant is going to be more of a memorable experience than nationals. On a final note, please stop calling each other liars, etc. and demanding posters sign their names. I am here to tell you that they are being truthful. Most of these ladies love the fact that they can go back to their state pageant every year and still be honored. I guarantee you that if they sign their name, they will definitely NOT be invited back. (NT) -- Diane Reynolds, 19:14:52 09/24/09 Thu You're only talking about production. What you're saying holds no water since you've never actually experienced competing at Mrs. America. There are contestants from this year who have posted on this board that their experience was wonderful because they got the opportunity to represent their state nationally and meet wonderful women. Until you are actually there competing, don't wreck it for those who want to be there. (NT) -- Mrs. America is still the best Mrs. pageant out there, 04:43:37 09/25/09 Fri Keep on drinking the koolaid! I think you are a Director anyway, protecting her interest. (NT) -- Competed and it stunk ,production AND experience. 2008, 05:25:25 09/25/09 Fri I'm not a director. I've competed at all 3 major Mrs. pageants and Mrs. America was by far the best experience and production. Period! It's as simple as that! YOU are a supposed former who didn't make the cut (like I did) and are just bitter because things didn't go your way. Again...why wreck it for those who enjoyed their experience. If you have nothing nice to say, keep it zipped! (NT) -- Former Mrs., 07:37:38 09/25/09 Fri just likie the other post, keep it positive (NT) -- STOP causing problems, 10:28:29 09/25/09 Fri Ok I'm POSITIVE Mrs. America is the best choice for a Mrs. pageant! (NT) -- How's that?, 11:23:05 09/25/09 Fri Who gets this angry and riled up defending a pageant?????????????? Someone needs therapy. (NT) -- calm down! Mrs International has the best production by far...pictures and video don't lie., 11:39:06 09/25/09 Fri I find it funny that the few people out there saying "Dont Bash"" Sign you name" are acting worse than anyone else... No one should have to sign there name, no one can even make a comment regarding any bad part of the pageant without you throwing a fit. Obviously the Mrs. A pageant wasnt the best experience for some, and there are people out there trying to say ways for improvement, constructive criticism- you guys cant handle that? -- Not signing my name because I dont have too...., 21:22:34 09/25/09 Fri

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