And you believe that couples without children don't have these demanding schedules, sleepless nights, demands on their time? Do you truly believe that we don't have demanding careers plus care for our aging parents, assist with our nieces and nephews who's parents have been deployed, and are naturally in shape and have a good figure???? Like I said, DO NOT bring up the "Child Card!" It is so politically incorrect. -- The Unofficial Mrs. America Board

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Subject: And you believe that couples without children don't have these demanding schedules, sleepless nights, demands on their time? Do you truly believe that we don't have demanding careers plus care for our aging parents, assist with our nieces and nephews who's parents have been deployed, and are naturally in shape and have a good figure???? Like I said, DO NOT bring up the "Child Card!" It is so politically incorrect.

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Date Posted: 19:18:22 08/08/10 Sun
In reply to: Dr. Ellie :) 's message, "Not saying that we moms should get bonus points. But losing weight when you are back at work 6 weeks after birth (or else!), dealing with a screaming child, not sleeping. is really really hard. We all have our struggles and triumphs in our own lives. But please do not perpetuate the stereotype that we pageant ladies are divas with staff to help us with every detail. The truth is, that most of us are "normal" women with a great hobby that keeps us motivated, focused, and connected to our communities. Forgive the typos!" on 18:15:43 08/08/10 Sun

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Politically incorrect to say you have children? Suggesting it's not hard to be a Mom and back in shape because of one winner, who thanked her nanny, personal chef and trainer. And do you believe that couples WITH children do not have the responsibility of aging parents, and help with assisting other family members besides their children?

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Date Posted: 19:40:31 08/08/10 Sun

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The point being...NONE of this should have been brought up! Do Not play the "child card" because we all have our crosses to bear!!

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Get over yourself, we all have busy lives!
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Date Posted: 21:00:06 08/08/10 Sun

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, I know that you do. I said that everyone has their struggles and triumphs...but don't assume that just because we are moms and compete in pageants mean that we have a staff. After a host of health problems, I have concluded that everyone has their issues that they have to deal with. No one is immune. Women with children should not get bonus points, but they should not be chided either! If you haven't lived though a child with colic then you just cannote relate. I cannot help you there. I was blessed to have a perfect angel for the most part and it was hard. Harder than 1st year of an Ivy League Professional School. So I can understand where some women are coming from. But if you don't bring up children, then leave out all of the sob stories too. If Mrs. America is a "beauty" pageant like it claims to be then we should all be on an equal field. Wish I could be "naturally in shape", I have to work for it!

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Dr. Ellie
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Date Posted: 19:48:28 08/08/10 Sun

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Well Said Dr. Ellie thank you for your intelligent comments. I've competed with Diva mom's and it is sad when they portray them selves as a real mom in the trenches! The judges will only see what is presented to them and how well it is sold!
Author: Mom who has to work for it too! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:48:52 08/09/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Politically incorrect to say you have children? Suggesting it's not hard to be a Mom and back in shape because of one winner, who thanked her nanny, personal chef and trainer. And do you believe that couples WITH children do not have the responsibility of aging parents, and help with assisting other family members besides their children?
Author: sigh [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:40:31 08/08/10 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The point being...NONE of this should have been brought up! Do Not play the "child card" because we all have our crosses to bear!!
Author: Get over yourself, we all have busy lives! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:00:06 08/08/10 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]