Date Posted:16:47:53 04/08/10 Thu Author: Rick to Joel Subject: Re: What Do You Guys Think? Yet Another In reply to:
Joel to Rick
's message, "Re: What Do You Guys Think?" on 05:55:00 04/08/10 Thu
Hi Joel, a short quick response before I go pick up Jeanne and we grab dinner and quiet evening.
First, glad to hear April 1 went better than you had anticipated. Will try to get with you sometime over the weekend & we can talk about the barn & Friday with Kyle.
>I would like to say that the bullying is for a cheap
>thrill to get what our generation calls "a charge out
>of it" to hurt fellow students, to see if they can and
>get away with it.
Does not sound like you Joel but rather what Joel sees in his peers. Ever tempted or see it as 'a charge out of it' for you Joel? I know I've tried & probably you too, to get away with stuff but do you see guys thinking they have better than 50/50 to get away with such crap & if caught little fear of consequences?
>at our high school there are teachers who bring this
>up in our homerooms, health/gym classes, social
>studies and even government classes about the "harm
>and pain it will cause for students doin it to
>themselves or fellow students!"
That's cool dude! Most listen & absorb as serious or blow off attitude as just teachers talking?
>We've had some bully going on in high school, but the
>students doing this stuff are from broken homes, etc.
>and trying to get a attention, and other stuff.
Does school jump on it fast? When discovered, what happens with those bullying?
>While growing up Rick, I was bullied in grade school
>and some in Middle School, and depended my Kyle
>helping me some of the time and me helping him, when
>we both got labeled by a few students doing this
>stuff. Most famous for me was "Momma's Boy" because of
>my small size, until I got bigger to try to defend
>myself. Worst for me was in Middle School I had a kid
>pick on me and throw me to the ground, a bully, and
>left with me a sprained arm. That kid got his butt
>paddled, parents hauled in to tell them to teach him
>manners as it showed they were not or he would be
>kicked out of school. That was 7th grade when that
>happened.
That's a tough label for a boy to deal with. Did you get razzed some cause Kyle stood up to defend you rather than you taking on the bully? What did you think when you saw him taken to the office and paddled--it help his attitude? Was there any concern by you that the principal would see you as guilty too--like 2 guys fighting--& haul in your butt for a paddling?
>mostly still got his butt paddled anyway. I soon tried
>fighting my own battles, won some with out getting
>punished, etc.
Were you concerned seeing Kyle paddled for fighting your battles? Did it ever put your friendship with Kyle on the line? Come close to being blamed at school for fighting & getting your ass paddled earlier than 11th grade? Knowing now what a paddling is like, wish you'd gotten paddled then & help rid the 'momma's boy' label from other guys? Kyle's dad usually whup his ass at home for the swats he got at school defending you?
>Wow Rick, a kid hung themselves? Was they on drugs or
>something? That makes me sick to my stomach.
Like I said Joel, it kicked my gut hard too. The one in Texas was 13 & from what I heard, a good kid from a good family, but embarrassed being smaller in size for his age & didn't want to be seen as wimp who cried or admit to his folks he couldn't fight his battles. Did not sound like a kid on drugs. With dad gone so much when we were younger & mom protecting Dave so much, think he felt 'uncool' many times among the guys, like a momma's boy too. Know it scared him sh-tless at 9, but best thing dad ever did was to take the paddle to his little ass. It was more I think for him than a lesson not to steal but a being a real boy. Maybe that's something you can relate Joel to 11th grade with the principal & dad last December.
>Just a thought, Sean, Cody and I didn't bully Kyle in
>the barn last week in your eyes, did we? I don't think he was bullying me, do you?
No way dude. You four are buds--like 4 musketeers. I think Kyle was riding you cause he wanted to see you react Joel. I think he felt 'overdue' & wanted, deep inside, to see you riled enough to stand up as a man. Funny it took you to stand up to keep Kyle's ass standing up awhile too.
>So I guess my answers to your questions are above for
>the root of such behavior of kids today? Am I right?
Right on dude!!
Heard another news report today. Seems a 16 y/o dude is suing his mom in court cause she violated his privacy looking at his Facebook page & then restricting his social network activities.
Never would've thought to say to my mom/dad 'you can't tell me what to do (even at 16) or I'll sue you'. Would you say that to your folks?
Remember back at about age 14/15 cause we were in HS, one of my buddies (I was at his house) told his folks he'd report them to social services & his dad saying something like--go ahead, cause by the time they get here, I'll have enough time to whip your ass so you have something really to tell & show them.
