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Date Posted: 02:54:20 01/08/03 Wed
Author: CSM
Subject: Re: USB Ports on the HP ZE5185
In reply to: JLF 's message, "Re: USB Ports on the HP ZE5185" on 12:27:40 12/23/02 Mon

I am looking at this very model, so keeping one eye here. Useful info about the USB's. I'm quite curious about the processor heat issue, I've read that overheating can cause permanent performance degradation, as in 2.4GHz could theoretically become, say, 1.8GHz down the road--perhaps a short spell beyond the warranty. Was it an HP I'd read about "excessive noise" complaints due to it's dual-fan setup? I'll let you know if I find out, but I might just take comfort in that noise, as one owner did. On the flip side of the desktop/mobile processor issue, CNET had underwhelming benchmarks on one of the higher-end P4M Vaio's, theorizing the speed-control mechanism (software, I believe they said) was clunky and stepping down the clock speed excessively in the interest of battery life.
BestBuy.com has the ZE5185 for $1899, $1649 after the 2 mail-in rebates totalling $250, until Jan. 11. Other than the USB issue, other systems I've come across in this pricing tier seem to have major red lights, like *NO* USB ports, or shared video memory, or (in Sony's case) a 512MB ceiling on RAM expansion. I'll keep looking, however--perhaps until the 11th.

Cheers

>>>
>>>>I am thinking to buy a notebook and I found these
>two
>>>>models very interesting:
>>>>Toshiba 1905-S303 : 2.4 GH, 40 GB, 15 XGA,32 ATI
>>video
>>>>card, 512 DDR memory
>>>>And
>>>>HP Ze 5185: 2.4GH, 60 GB, 15 SXGA, 32 ATI Video
>card,
>>>>512 DDR memory
>>>>Regarding performance and realibility which one
>shall
>>>>I pick?
>>>
>>>I am in the same boat looking for a laptop. It is
>>>difficult to get accurate detailed info. Don't hold
>>>me to it but I think the Toshiba has a USB 2.0 port
>>>while the HP is only 1.0 or 1.1. That is a big
>>>difference for future external add-ons which makes
>the
>>>Toshiba more useful regardless of the smaller HD.
>>>Regarding reliability I hear less bad things about
>the
>>>Toshiba but that could be because there are a lot
>less
>>>of them out there.
>>>PODPEA
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>Re: HP and USB Ports - please see the following URL:
>>http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docN
>a
>>me=bpu03056
>>
>>The above gives an excellent description of USB
>>standards,
>>data rates,etc. and in this article you will note that
>>HP states that USB 2.0 is the latest USB standard and
>>started appearing in new products in 2001. Since the
>>HP ZE5185 came out in the Spring of 2002 - it has USB
>>2.0 ports. The big question is are these USB 2.0 Full
>>Speed(12MBPS) or USB 2.0
>>High Speed (480 Mbps) ports.
>
>Well - I did some further research and found out that
>both the Toshiba 1905-S303 and the HP Ze5185 both have
>USB 1.1 ports- so if one wants to use USB 2.0 - which
>is 40 times faster- then you will have to purchase a
>PCMIA card that provides USB 2.0 ( these sell for
>around $59 at Fry's).
>Of course - both laptops include an IEEE 1394 FireWire
>that one can use at 400 Mbps. Bottomline- the major
>disadvantage in both of these laptops is that they are
>using "desktop" Pentium 4's at 2.4GHz- which could
>potentially yield heat problems- depending on the
>applications being run- and which also means that a
>fully charged battery will only last about 2 hours.
>
>Cheers, JLF

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