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Date Posted: 18:21:39 05/13/03 Tue
Author: Go Cats Go
Subject: UVM takes two from Northeastern, reaches 30 wins for the first time

UVM baseball made up one half of a 4-game series with Northeastern today, sweeping the Huskies 6-3 and 3-1. This puts UVM at 15-3 in the AE, and 30-10 overall...the first time in history the Cats have reached the 30 win mark. This sets up the HUGE series this weekend up in Orono against the Maine Black Bears. Talk about a great way to end the regular season (great scheduling by the AE!). Maine stands at 15-5...so 3 or 4 wins by Maine would give them the #1 seed, 3 or 4 wins by UVM would give them the #1 seed, and I guess a split would also give it to UVM (by virtue of winning percentage). Personally, I think UVM would be lucky to get out with a split, but I expect the big showdown to be next weekend at the AE Tourney in Burlington. Should be very interesting.

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[> Re: UVM takes two from Northeastern, reaches 30 wins for the first time -- mainejeff, 20:09:42 05/13/03 Tue

I hate that a split would give Vermont the AE title simply because they played 2 fewer conference games....stuff like this always seems to against Maine for some reason.....on the other hand, you are right. The BIG games are next weekend in Burlington. The good thing for both teams is that they will not face each other in the first round which most likely means neither team will have to face AE's most dominant pitchers this season in Dixon and Collar.

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[> [> Question for those willing to do the math... -- Go Cats Go, 21:06:49 05/13/03 Tue

Technically speaking, a split gives UVM the title by winning percentage. But, let's say that hypothetically UVM made up the two games with NU and LOST them both...UVM and Maine would have identical 17-7 records. Who wins the tiebreaker? It's not head-to-head, as it'd be a 2-2 split. Someone with time want to work on the next step?

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[> [> [> Re: Question for those willing to do the math... -- Baseball Guy, 03:28:29 05/14/03 Wed

In the event if there ever was a tie between Maine and Vermont in conference play, and they split their head to head match ups, I would think you would then go to the overall records for the tie breaker. This would mean whomever had the best PERCENTAGE overall record, would win the conference title.

I still believe it is an injustice, for not all teams to play the 24 conference schedule. This only means that any conference title..is tainted. That is truly too bad...

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[> [> [> Ok, I found some time... -- Go Cats Go, 06:21:32 05/14/03 Wed

Ok, so I believe the *hypothetical* tiebreaker would go like this...

-Maine vs. Vermont: split, 2-2
-Both teams vs. Stony Brook (next highest team): both 3-1
-Both teams vs. Northeastern: Maine 3-1, UVM 2-2 (remember the condition of this hypothetical).

So, in theory, if Maine and UVM were to split this weekend, Maine could make a mathematical case for getting jobbed out of the #1 seed. That would be a scenario where it would be the right thing to do to make up those 2 games (or, at the very least, the first one if UVM were to win). However, I would argue that if UVM, say, went 3-1 this weekend, there's nothing tainted about their league title...24 games or not. They'd have 18 wins, a feat unmatchable by anyone.

Or...they could just hurry up and play this Vermont/Maine series and decide this stuff on the field!

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[> Psotponed games -- Cat Fan, 17:17:48 05/16/03 Fri

Jeff-
Remember Maine played less games last year. They canceled their last two games at Binghamton due to a bad tarp (gee, how did that happen-- anyone see Bull Durham?) and came home. Then Northeastern and Vermont didn't play their last two because it was moot.

The reason that Vermont and Northeastern did not play two games is that the Northeastern coach jerked around with the schedule. He canned the whole series in April based on a bad forecast and it turned out to be nice. I know, I went over to Parsons on the Sunday and was shocked there was no one there. The next day, a monday usually reserved for makeups, it was good enough for NU to practice.

The two schools tried other makeup times but McPhee only wanted to play on May 13th since he it was the Tuesday after his non-league weekend. He had his two best pitchers rested but Vermont beat them with their fifth and sixth guys.

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[> [> Sounds like Neil McPhee has too much control.... -- mainejeff, 18:52:23 05/16/03 Fri

The conference should determine when conference gameas are played, not the Northeastern coach. I've always hated that guy.

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[> [> [> Re: Sounds like Neil McPhee has too much control.... -- NU Hoop Fan, 16:53:28 05/17/03 Sat

Hey Jeff is there anyone at Northeastern you can tolerate? I mean your hatred for the Huskies seems to be more than a passing fancy.

Seems like people on this board think that Northeastern has some weird control over the people at the AE office, when in fact, it couldn't be further from the truth.

There's no love lost between O'Brien and the Idiots on High.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Sounds like Neil McPhee has too much control.... -- mainejeff, 17:02:52 05/17/03 Sat

Actually, when I was an undergrad I had a "I Hate Northeastern" t-shirt made to wear to Maine-NU sporting events. NU used to beat Maine in everything, so that's where that comes from. My latest tirade just stems form what seems like McPhee being a d*ck about re-scheduling the Vermont games, and its indirect impact on Maine. The conference should have stepped in and said......you're playing these games on these dates......no ifs, ands, or buts! I mean, they had over a month to make-up these games!

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[> [> [> [> Re: Sounds like Neil McPhee has too much control.... -- mainejeff, 17:13:29 05/17/03 Sat

Actually, when I was an undergrad I had an "I Hate Northeastern" t-shirt made to wear to Maine-NU sporting events. NU used to beat Maine in everything, so that's where that comes from. My latest tirade just stems from what seems like McPhee being a d*ck about re-scheduling the Vermont games, and its indirect impact on Maine. The conference should have stepped in and said......you're playing these games on these dates......no ifs, ands, or buts! I mean, they had over a month to make-up these games!

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