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Subject: Re: Dealing with creepy people


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Date Posted: 23:45:33 03/12/25 Wed
In reply to: Sonya 's message, "Re: Dealing with creepy people" on 19:01:04 03/12/25 Wed

Oh wow! That's the kind of thing I've heard about, what it's like to grow up in the south. I'm glad that I somehow dodged the bullet on that one. I am even moreso sorry that you had to deal with such things.

I recall multiple times that Nicole had to deal with school bullies and she'd give one a black eye, kneed another in his pebbles, and then with my Older-Brother she gave him a fat lip.

(First boy had shoved me to the ground beforehand, the second boy tried to grab her as she was walking away from an argument with him, and my Brother had made some very rude and vulgar comments about her and I)

Where I grew up, and in that time period, boys simply could not hit girls. You'd get a bad reputation if you did, and an even worse reputation if you got beat up by one.

(The boy who took her knee, was teased mercilessly over that. I actually participated in some of that teasing. Not one of my better moments. But rest assured he had deserved the knee, even if not teasing.)

"Boys would be boys" I've obviously heard that phrase before. I actually benefited from it as an excuse for such things as when Older-Brother and I had our fist-fight out on the terrace.

(Father decided that we had punished each other enough From the bumps and bruises we gave each other. We did it mostly in private so he didn't even bother to break us up he let us "get it out of our systems". Another phrase we sometimes heard.)

Nicole actually benefited from the phrase one time when we had raced our bikes down a particularly treacherous hill. My Father was was actually talking about punishing us, her father suggested not to bother because "Boys will be boys"!

"I'm not a boy" Nicole indignantly retorted

"Look you!" He replied, "You certainly look like one right now!"

The excuse would never be given for any of the other behaviors... touching a girl's bra, or pulling up her skirt... we'd be punished for that. We were taught to open doors for girls, and to give them our seat if standing.

(Maybe the Titty-Twister, as we did give each other those. Nicole gave me more than a few when we were growing up. And she probably gave me more of them than I gave her. I certainly didn't think that she took that personal when I did it back to her. I dare say that when she did that to me it probably hurt a lot more than when I did it to her. She was not gentle. We never involved adults, though.)

(And she didn't wear a Bra yet, so there's that)

Our eventual family scandal, that didn't involve anything like what you describe though. It didn't involve any of us kids at all. That was when my Uncle lost his job as the curator at the museum in the city. It was the 80s, when the AIDS epidemic peaked, and Uncle...

(Well, let's just leave it at that he didn't contract the disease through drugs, or a blood transfusion.)

He was noteworthy enough that Rush Limbaugh mentioned him on his radio show, when he died of the disease. (To triumphant music) I'm not ashamed to say that when I heard of Rush's death years later, I played "Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen.

But I'm off topic here. And given that you're from the south I'd rather not get into my Uncle's condition, or whether it should be considered a lifestyle choice, or simply the way he was born.

On the other side of the ravine, and the family you could probably relate to much better than mine, Nicole's family did have her cousin, Michael. And he did have a touchy-touchy problem of his own. Making things a little more complicated, he stayed with them an awful lot.

As I understood it, his home life was really bad. But I don't know the details, as it was something not discussed in front of us.

But I never got the impression that Michael ever tried to touch Nicole. As far as I ever saw, she was never put in the bath with him. That said, there were a handful of occasions I was put in with him and Georgie because Nicole wasn't there, or had already had her bath for some reason.

(They were all close family friends, so there was a variety of reasons why I might be staying over, other than just a sleep over. I don't recall exactly why that was on those occasions. But there were times like after shopping for school clothes, Brother and I stayed there while Mrs C tailored everything for a proper fit.)

Most of Michael's interests seemed to be in Georgie, anyway. And from what I saw, Georgie was a little touchy-touchy back.

As for me, I was a lot more eager. Unlike Nicole, they were both boys, and both older than me. So I always wanted to be included in whatever they did. Georgie would have none of that, though. Michael, he seemed eager to see what he could get away with, with me, at times.

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