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Subject: Re: Naked for the first time as a pre-teen
Author: Lucia
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] Date Posted:13:34:53 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20 In reply to:
Matteo to Lucia
's message, "Re: Naked for the first time as a pre-teen" on 12:42:54 08/27/25 Wed
>Hi Lucia, I was so happy this afternoon: I was having
>fun running around naked in Valalta with Camilla and I
>couldn't wait to tell you about it. Then, a little
>while ago, two sad things happened: Camilla saw me in
>diapers again, and shortly afterward, in the car, I
>read the message announcing the closure of this page
>next Monday. What a shame! I loved telling you about
>your things and reading about Francesco and Tommaso.
>Anyway, we can do it until Monday.
>This morning Camilla's family arrived in Valalta
>before us. We found them already settled in the slide
>area, and to my great surprise and joy... Camilla was
>naked too.
Hi Matteo,
I'm so happy to hear you had a wonderful day with Camilla. And I'm very happy and proud of her for already being naked. She's getting used to it too, great!
You don't have to be embarrassed that Camilla saw you in diapers. After the other night, on the couch in the house they rented, she knows you use them now. So even if she saw you in diapers again, you don't have to be ashamed. Was she making fun of you? I don't think so, given how she's behaved so far. So smile and don't worry!
I'm also very sorry about closing this page next Monday. I also enjoyed hearing your stories, which I shared in part with Francesco and Tommaso, and telling you about their experiences. We can continue doing so, if you like. Let's chat privately or email each other. Whatever you prefer, and only if you like. The choice is yours.
Now, please, tell me some details of the day. Thank you
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Date Posted:14:03:40 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
"What's your school morning routine like? Breakfast, getting dressed, or pee/poop?"
I think it's quite common.
I wake up first, go to the bathroom, wash up, and when I'm ready, I call the kids. As I wrote to you yesterday, I often wake Francesco first, take him to the bathroom, where I wash his face and let him do his business (pee and poop), and then I bathe him using the bidet. In the summer, they often sleep naked, so I don't even have to undress him. It's quick. Same thing for Tommaso. Then, both of them, still naked, come into the kitchen for breakfast. Then we go back to the bathroom to brush our teeth and get dressed for school. I always dress Tommaso. If we're in a hurry, I dress Francesco too, otherwise I let him get dressed himself in the clothes I chose and have already laid out on a chair in their room.
Date Posted:14:16:13 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
My routine is different: from bed I go straight to the changing table, get cleaned and dressed. Then I have breakfast.
Date Posted:14:11:28 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
The first five minutes passed with greetings and Camilla's mom loudly saying how happy she was that her daughter had decided to leave her bikini at home. It gave me a pleasant feeling of authority, still dressed next to a naked Camilla. Then Mom undressed me and creamed me, and we ran off to play on the inflatables. Later, Camilla and I were allowed to wander around the campsite alone. On the way back from the walk, I had to poop: my parents were bathing at the time, so Camilla's mom took me to the bathroom. It was embarrassing having her wipe my bottom.
Date Posted:14:22:48 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>The first five minutes passed with greetings and
>Camilla's mom loudly saying how happy she was that her
>daughter had decided to leave her bikini at home. It
>gave me a pleasant feeling of authority, still dressed
>next to a naked Camilla. Then Mom undressed me and
>creamed me, and we ran off to play on the inflatables.
>Later, Camilla and I were allowed to wander around the
>campsite alone. On the way back from the walk, I had
>to poop: my parents were bathing at the time, so
>Camilla's mom took me to the bathroom. It was
>embarrassing having her wipe my bottom.
I can imagine: usually you're naked and the guys/girls around you are dressed, but here, for the first time, it was the opposite... You could feel what others were feeling, and Camilla felt what you felt. Fair enough for once.
Wow! Did Camilla's mom offer to do it, or did you ask her to? Did Camilla come with you, or did she stay where your towels were? I can understand your embarrassment... Did she say something to put you at ease, or did she just wipe your bottom without saying anything?
Date Posted:14:34:06 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I announced, "I'll be right back." Camilla's mom: "Where are you going, little one?" I said I was going to the bathroom, and she said she was coming with me. I didn't protest. Camilla followed us. After I pooped, I tried to say I knew how to clean myself, but she said, "You're not ashamed of me, are you? I'll give you a quick rinse, come on." When we got back to the beach umbrella, mom scolded me: "You forced Manuela to wash you? Lazy!" Manuela defended me: "Oh, he wanted to do it himself, I was the one who insisted. He's such a sweet boy!" Have Francesco and Tommaso ever been cleaned by anyone other than you, your husband, or their grandmothers?
During the walk with Camilla, we talked about many things, especially diapers and private parts. But without teasing. She asked me a lot about my incontinence and asked me to pull down my foreskin (she had never seen it done).
Date Posted:14:46:29 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
>I announced, "I'll be right back." Camilla's mom:
>"Where are you going, little one?" I said I was going
>to the bathroom, and she said she was coming with me.
>I didn't protest. Camilla followed us. After I pooped,
>I tried to say I knew how to clean myself, but she
>said, "You're not ashamed of me, are you? I'll give
>you a quick rinse, come on." When we got back to the
>beach umbrella, mom scolded me: "You forced Manuela to
>wash you? Lazy!" Manuela defended me: "Oh, he wanted
>to do it himself, I was the one who insisted. He's
>such a sweet boy!" Have Francesco and Tommaso ever
>been cleaned by anyone other than you, your husband,
>or their grandmothers?
>
>During the walk with Camilla, we talked about many
>things, especially diapers and private parts. But
>without teasing. She asked me a lot about my
>incontinence and asked me to pull down my foreskin
>(she had never seen it done).
Date Posted:14:49:53 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>>I announced, "I'll be right back." Camilla's mom:
>>"Where are you going, little one?" I said I was going
>>to the bathroom, and she said she was coming with me.
>>I didn't protest. Camilla followed us. After I pooped,
>>I tried to say I knew how to clean myself, but she
>>said, "You're not ashamed of me, are you? I'll give
>>you a quick rinse, come on." When we got back to the
>>beach umbrella, mom scolded me: "You forced Manuela to
>>wash you? Lazy!" Manuela defended me: "Oh, he wanted
>>to do it himself, I was the one who insisted. He's
>>such a sweet boy!" Have Francesco and Tommaso ever
>>been cleaned by anyone other than you, your husband,
>>or their grandmothers?
>>
>>During the walk with Camilla, we talked about many
>>things, especially diapers and private parts. But
>>without teasing. She asked me a lot about my
>>incontinence and asked me to pull down my foreskin
>>(she had never seen it done).
She was kind. I would have offered myself too if we had been together with Francesco and Tommaso in Valalta.
Francesco and Tommaso are usually cleaned only by me, my husband, and the two grandmothers.
However, once or twice, they were cleaned by my friend, Paolo and Marco's mother, when they were at her house.
"During the walk with Camilla, we talked about many things, especially diapers and private parts. But without teasing. She asked me a lot about my incontinence and asked me to pull down my foreskin (she had never seen it done)."
It's good that you talked about it without teasing or making fun of each other. That's the way it should be done. I'm a proud "aunt" of you two.
She was definitely curious. It's not every day you see a 14-and-a-half-year-old boy in diapers. I'm sure her questions were prompted solely by curiosity, not by any desire to embarrass you. How did you feel when she asked you to pull down your foreskin? Did you do it? How did she react? What did she say? Hadn't she already seen it when your mothers washed you together?
Date Posted:14:55:18 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
She'd only seen him that evening in the shower and wanted to see him again. I quickly obliged by sitting down on a bench. But we were interrupted by the arrival of a family.
Date Posted:14:59:29 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>She'd only seen him that evening in the shower and
>wanted to see him again. I quickly obliged by sitting
>down on a bench. But we were interrupted by the
>arrival of a family.
"I quickly obliged by sitting down on a bench."
Wow! You would never have done that for Martina or Margherita... Camilla must be truly special to you.
Did you do it in the shower afterwards? Did she get to see how it works?
Date Posted:15:07:10 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
The difference between Camilla, Martina, and Margherita is that Camilla was naked like me today. That made me feel more comfortable. In the shower, I couldn't pull down my foreskin because I got an erection from Camilla's first touch.
Date Posted:14:49:50 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Afterward, when we were alone, Camilla confessed to me that she envied her mother, who had touched my ass to clean me. I turned around and said, laughing, "Come in." She had the idea of going back to the bathroom: she had me get in the shower, checked that no one was there, and groped my ass. After thirty seconds, I said it wasn't fair if it wasn't even, and Camilla turned around to have me do the same. She also made me do the front part, in exchange for the chance to touch my now very hard dick.
Date Posted:14:55:52 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>Afterward, when we were alone, Camilla confessed to me
>that she envied her mother, who had touched my ass to
>clean me. I turned around and said, laughing, "Come
>in." She had the idea of going back to the
>bathroom: she had me get in the shower, checked that
>no one was there, and groped my ass. After thirty
>seconds, I said it wasn't fair if it wasn't even, and
>Camilla turned around to have me do the same. She also
>made me do the front part, in exchange for the chance
>to touch my now very hard dick.
WOW! And thank goodness you were both shy and embarrassed!
You actually did the right thing; at your age, it's right to have these experiences. If I were one of your two mothers, I wouldn't have been angry (if I'd seen you).
I imagine this time you weren't embarrassed that Camilla saw your erection... hehehe.
What did it feel like touching her private parts and her ass? And her? Did you talk about it afterwards or not?
Date Posted:15:16:41 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>I liked the feeling of Camilla's hands on me more than
>the other way around.
Thank you for your honesty...
The fact that your penis got hard from the first touch confirms this... Didn't she comment? Didn't she react in some way?
Date Posted:15:23:27 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
We stayed quiet for fear of being discovered. We only whispered, "I want to touch it too," the bare minimum.
Date Posted:15:29:46 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>We stayed quiet for fear of being discovered. We only
>whispered, "I want to touch it too," the bare minimum.
Of course, understandable! Although, as I wrote before, if I'd found out, I wouldn't have gotten angry. It's okay to have certain experiences at a certain age, before full development. Afterward, it becomes much more "sexual."
I thought you'd talked about it later, though. But it's possible you didn't.
Date Posted:15:36:32 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
We were interrupted by three 17-18 year olds and we quickly left. My penis was smaller than usual again and we went back to our parents. Strangely, we didn't talk about it again.
Date Posted:15:43:10 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>We were interrupted by three 17-18 year olds and we
>quickly left. My penis was smaller than usual again
>and we went back to our parents. Strangely, we didn't
>talk about it again.
It's not strange... maybe you didn't feel like talking and preferred to think back on those moments personally, each of you inside. That's normal.
Date Posted:15:53:25 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Also because in the afternoon we were no longer alone, we always played with other children
Date Posted:15:02:29 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
You told me it's unusual to see a fourteen-year-old in diapers. You're absolutely right! How old was the oldest child you've ever seen in diapers? Have your children had any instances of wet or dirty pants in their classrooms?
Date Posted:15:10:10 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>You told me it's unusual to see a fourteen-year-old in
>diapers. You're absolutely right! How old was the
>oldest child you've ever seen in diapers? Have your
>children had any instances of wet or dirty pants in
>their classrooms?
I think 10 or 11... Right at Lido di Dante...
Wet pants, yes, it happened. Not very often, to be honest, but it happened both in elementary school and once in middle school. Dirty pants, no, never.
Date Posted:15:16:43 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
So, was there a 10-11 year old in diapers at Lido di Dante? Tell me... I wore diapers in first and second grade; from third grade onwards, I had a bag in the classroom with a change of clothes, because I had accidents up until fifth grade. In sixth grade, I peed twice and pooped once. In seventh grade, I peed twice. You can imagine the teasing.
Date Posted:15:24:07 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>So, was there a 10-11 year old in diapers at Lido di
>Dante? Tell me... I wore diapers in first and second
>grade; from third grade onwards, I had a bag in the
>classroom with a change of clothes, because I had
>accidents up until fifth grade. In sixth grade, I peed
>twice and pooped once. In seventh grade, I peed twice.
>You can imagine the teasing.
This family arrived with this boy. They sat close to us, even though there was another family among us, so we weren't exactly close. When they undressed him, he was wearing a diaper under his shorts. He looked quite embarrassed and looked around. Holding him up next to her, his mom undid his diaper and then smeared sunscreen all over him. Later, he came to play with my kids and introduced himself, Enea, and said he was 10 and a half years old. Francesco and Tommaso didn't tell them they'd seen him in diaper. That evening, when it was time to go home, his mom laid him down on a towel and put a clean diaper on him.
I can imagine your embarrassment and teasing over these incidents (even though it obviously wasn't your fault).
Date Posted:15:31:59 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Poor Enea!!! 10 and a half years old means he'll be starting sixth grade in September... changed on the beach!!! I've also tried to be changed in a public place, but never on the beach. Was the diaper used? In the evening, he protested or gently lay down to have the diaper put on. What did your children tell you about the situation when they got home?
Date Posted:15:39:43 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>Poor Enea!!! 10 and a half years old means he'll be
>starting sixth grade in September... changed on the
>beach!!! I've also tried to be changed in a public
>place, but never on the beach. Was the diaper used? In
>the evening, he protested or gently lay down to have
>the diaper put on. What did your children tell you
>about the situation when they got home?
We weren't very close, but from my experience as a mother when my two children used them, it looked wet with urine. I'm almost certain.
That evening, he tried to tell his mother to leave him without a diaper, but she was adamant.
On the way home, they asked me why such a big boy, who would be starting sixth grade after the summer, was wearing diapers. I explained that he probably had a medical bladder problem, that he certainly wasn't happy wearing it; in fact, he was embarrassed, but until his body was under control, it was okay to keep it on. There was nothing wrong with it, nor anything to make fun of.
Date Posted:15:46:45 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Some questions about Enea: was he an only child? Did he have swimwear marks? He probably needed the diaper for the trip. I always put it on when I get home from the beach (but I put it in the car). Enea was lucky to find well-behaved children like yours. Were there other children at the beach? How did they look at him?
Date Posted:15:57:18 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>Some questions about Enea: was he an only child? Did
>he have swimwear marks? He probably needed the diaper
>for the trip. I always put it on when I get home from
>the beach (but I put it in the car). Enea was lucky to
>find well-behaved children like yours. Were there
>other children at the beach? How did they look at him?
Enea was an only child and had no swimwear marks. His bottom was partially tanned, a sign that it wasn't his first time naked on the beach. I also think that the diaper was needed for the car ride to get to the beach.Thank you, you are kind to say this about my children.Yes, there were other children who looked at him laughing... how silly!
Date Posted:16:04:08 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Did Enea need to go to the bathroom during the day? It's a problem at Lido di Dante. What do you do with Francesco and Tommaso if they need to poop on the beach? Last year, I was taken naked to the first beach, outside the nudist area.
Date Posted:13:20:10 08/28/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.219
>Did Enea need to go to the bathroom during the day?
>It's a problem at Lido di Dante. What do you do with
>Francesco and Tommaso if they need to poop on the
>beach? Last year, I was taken naked to the first
>beach, outside the nudist area.
The beach actually doesn't have any restrooms. If you need one, you have to go to the restrooms at Camping Classe, which has an agreement with the municipality of Ravenna to allow those using the public beach to use their restrooms for free, or you can go to Natur Ristobar, which is outside the naturist area, by the pine forest.
If Francesco and Tommaso needed to pee, they did it in the sea while swimming (even though it's not supposed to be done there), while if they needed to poop, they went to the restrooms at Camping Classe (I think they're what you call the first beach outside the nudist area).
When Enea needed to go to the bathroom, his mom put him in a diaper and made him do his business in it.
Date Posted:13:36:00 08/28/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I don't think my parents know about the Classe campsite, because we always walk to the regular beach. The person accompanying me gets dressed, while I walk the entire beach naked. Will you dress Francesco and Tommaso to walk down the path to the campsite?
Poor Enea!!! I've never experienced anything like this before! What a shame! The beach is usually crowded. Don't you think he'd be able to get to the campsite bathroom?
Date Posted:13:54:49 08/28/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.219
>I don't think my parents know about the Classe
>campsite, because we always walk to the regular beach.
>The person accompanying me gets dressed, while I walk
>the entire beach naked. Will you dress Francesco and
>Tommaso to walk down the path to the campsite?
>Poor Enea!!! I've never experienced anything like this
>before! What a shame! The beach is usually crowded.
>Don't you think he'd be able to get to the campsite
>bathroom?
No, we'll do like your parents. My husband or I get dressed and accompany them, but they're naked. If the campsite is very crowded, we put Francesco in his swimsuit, while Tommaso stays naked. Not so much to avoid embarrassment for him, but because we don't want to cause problems with the campsite guests. We'll bring his swimsuit with us and see the situation when we get to the campsite and decide whether to leave him naked or dress him.
I agree with you... too embarrassing for Enea. I don't know why his parents decided that way. He could go to the campsite bathroom with my two children. I tried to tell his mom, but she said it's more practical that way. Besides, her son has nothing to be ashamed of because he's still a child down there...
Date Posted:14:04:44 08/28/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
So Francesco sees you're wearing his swimsuit? He'd want to put it on when we leave the naturist area? Enea's parents are like mine: any excuse is a good one to wear diapers. My parents also sometimes make me wear them during the day just for convenience. Okay, on long trips I need them because I fall asleep easily. But other times it's just for their convenience.
Date Posted:15:32:24 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
"I'm also very sorry about closing this page next Monday. I also enjoyed hearing your stories, which I shared in part with Francesco and Tommaso, and telling you about their experiences. We can continue doing so, if you like. Let's chat privately or email each other. Whatever you prefer, and only if you like. The choice is yours."
I see you didn't comment on this part of my post... so I understand our chat ends on Monday... too bad! I'm very sorry, but obviously I accept your decision.
Date Posted:15:39:13 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
No, no! How can we message? Where? I only have my school email and can't use it. Isn't there another forum like this?
Date Posted:15:45:33 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>No, no! How can we message? Where? I only have my
>school email and can't use it. Isn't there another
>forum like this?
Absolutely! Under no circumstances should you use your school email address on any website other than the school website! Don't make this mistake!
Date Posted:15:53:40 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>Yes, I know that well. But where can we communicate?
I honestly can't tell you if there's another site like this. You'd have to look for it...
I didn't understand the administrator's message either.
Anon, the "Nude Shoot" guy, and I communicate by email, but you don't have one.
If you'd like, after Monday (or even sooner if you want to try it), we can chat at: https://client.chatcrypt.com/
which is a disposable chat; messages are deleted when you log out. So, the history doesn't remain like here; you can't read old messages; we both have to be connected. It's private in the sense that it's just you and me, but if you want, we can invite others to join. Then it could grow to 3, 4, 10, 100 people. We could finally speak Italian...
Date Posted:15:59:43 08/27/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.20
>Great! We can try it tomorrow...
It's late tonight. It's 1:00 AM and I have to go to sleep. Okay, let's try tomorrow. It would be nice to continue chatting.
I'll send you the username and password, while the link is above.
Date Posted:09:36:26 08/28/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80
>No, no! How can we message? Where? I only have my
>school email and can't use it. Isn't there another
>forum like this?
There is a forum that no one uses anymore. See below for the link if you wish.
It is called 'Let's Talk Spanking II' but it has been dead for a while now.
Date Posted:14:13:21 08/28/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.219
>>Ok
>
>
>https://client.chatcrypt.com/
>Username: Lucia
>Channel: Matteo-Lucia
>Password: Matteo (solo questa prima volta, poi la
>cambiamo)
Date Posted:10:36:07 08/31/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80
>>>Ok
>>
>>
>>https://client.chatcrypt.com/
>>Username: Lucia
>>Channel: Matteo-Lucia
>>Password: Matteo (solo questa prima volta, poi la
>>cambiamo)
>
>You put username Matteo
Date Posted:13:15:31 08/31/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.88.103.44
>>>>Ok
>>>
>>>
>>>https://client.chatcrypt.com/
>>>Username: Lucia
>>>Channel: Matteo-Lucia
>>>Password: Matteo (solo questa prima volta, poi la
>>>cambiamo)
>>
>>You put username Matteo
>
>Can anyone join in on the chat or is it private?
>
>
>.
Anyone can participate.
It's private in the sense that when you log in, it's notified, so everyone knows you're online. When the chat is empty because everyone has logged out, everything written is automatically deleted, and anyone who logs in later won't see it. In this sense, it's private and allows you to be more honest and direct, and write things that would be embarrassing in a public chat like this.
Date Posted:09:22:47 09/01/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80
>>>>Ok
>>>
>>>
>>>https://client.chatcrypt.com/
>>>Username: Lucia
>>>Channel: Matteo-Lucia
>>>Password: Matteo (solo questa prima volta, poi la
>>>cambiamo)
>>
>>You put username Matteo
>
>Can anyone join in on the chat or is it private?
>
>
>.
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