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] Date Posted:09:39:53 01/17/26 Sat Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80 In reply to:
Philip
's message, "A question for the moms" on 19:29:46 01/16/26 Fri
>Came across this site while Googling. It looks like
>there are some women/moms on here that might be able
>to answer this question, because I'm stumped.
>
>I am divorced and remarried. My current wife has been
>in my children's lives since they were 5, 3, and 1.
>Their bio mom has struggled with mental and substance
>issues and has always been in and out of their lives.
>She is doing better now and the kids, 14, 12, and 10
>currently, stay with her a few days a month. Bio mom
>has some jealousy toward my current wife and her role
>in the kids lives.
>
>Bio mom recently took my 14 year old son for his
>yearly checkup. Once there, my son refused to let bio
>mom go back to the exam room. He actually took the
>option of having a medical assistant present over his
>mother with my permission by phone. Bio mom was hurt,
>furious, and blamed my current wife.
>
>Bio mom called me later in tears telling me that she
>and my son argued about it all the way home. They were
>still arguing as they came in the door when my two
>younger daughters asked my son, "what's the big deal,
>mum (my current wife is British) sees you naked all
>the time".
>
>Bio mom was really crying at this point because that's
>when "she knew" my son loved my current wife more than
>her. That my current wife was his mother, not her.
>
>I told all of this to my wife later and she just gave
>me a knowing nod like she got it. I don't get it. Why
>was the issue of nudity and comfortableness the aha
>factor in this?
It could be because the bio mom hadn't seen your son naked or even partially naked in some time, whereas your current wife has seen him naked on many occasions.
Therefore with his bio mom he could feel like she is a stranger seeing him naked.
Maybe you could/should ask your son about this issue.
Date Posted:15:01:20 01/17/26 Sat Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
It seems to be commonly agreed that nudity is a prelude to the sexual act.
But could it also be a prelude to parental affection?
At one time in our prehistoric past, we shed our fur and replaced that fur with clothes.
That didn’t change our instincts any.
Children go right on wanting to hug naked parents
and parents go right on wanting to hug naked children.
I don’t know if Higonnet (1998: 58) shares my evolutionary theory, but she sees “The Child’s Bath” by Mary Cassatt as expressing “the everyday comfort a mother and a daughter take in each other’s bodies; contacts between maternal flesh and child flesh create the central axis of the image.”
Higonnet (1998: 127) also claims that parents in Victorian England openly enjoyed seeing their children nude.
Parents today would probably express similar feelings if it were not for the witch hunt.
When a photographer takes a picture of a nude child,
it is tempting to say that the photographer is churning out child pornography.
But let us not be so quick,
Ron Oliver is a photographer who specializes in nude children,
and his specialty has caused him an enormous amount of trouble.
Yet he has received commissions from parents all over the world to photograph their children (Childhood in Art 2000).
Josh Sturges is photographer in the same specialty,
who has likewise fallen into legal trouble.
Both photographers have taken pictures in which a naked child is in the arms of a naked parent.
Now try to wank over a picture like that!
Date Posted:20:20:44 01/17/26 Sat Author Host/IP: 99.20.103.210
>It seems to be commonly agreed that nudity is a
>prelude to the sexual act.
>But could it also be a prelude to parental affection?
>At one time in our prehistoric past, we shed our fur
>and replaced that fur with clothes.
>That didn’t change our instincts any.
>Children go right on wanting to hug naked parents
>and parents go right on wanting to hug naked children.
>
>I don’t know if Higonnet (1998: 58) shares my
>evolutionary theory, but she sees “The Child’s
>Bath” by Mary Cassatt as expressing “the everyday
>comfort a mother and a daughter take in each other’s
>bodies; contacts between maternal flesh and child
>flesh create the central axis of the image.”
>
>Higonnet (1998: 127) also claims that parents in
>Victorian England openly enjoyed seeing their children
>nude.
>Parents today would probably express similar feelings
>if it were not for the witch hunt.
>
>When a photographer takes a picture of a nude child,
>it is tempting to say that the photographer is
>churning out child pornography.
>But let us not be so quick,
>Ron Oliver is a photographer who specializes in nude
>children,
>and his specialty has caused him an enormous amount of
>trouble.
>Yet he has received commissions from parents all over
>the world to photograph their children (Childhood in
>Art 2000).
>Josh Sturges is photographer in the same specialty,
>who has likewise fallen into legal trouble.
>Both photographers have taken pictures in which a
>naked child is in the arms of a naked parent.
>Now try to wank over a picture like that!
>
>Childhood in Art. 2000. Ron Oliver.
>https://www.childhoodinart.org/person.php?name=Ron-Oliv
>er
>
>Higonnet, A. 1998. Pictures of innocence: The history
>and crisis of ideal childhood. London: Thames and
>Hudson.
Thanks to everyone who responded. I thought this might be some maternal form of connection I was missing the context for. I will speak to my son about being more open with bio mom as he feels comfortable. Her being back in their lives is a more recent thing and I think there needs to be more patience given from both sides. Cheers!
Date Posted:21:51:14 01/17/26 Sat Author Host/IP: 148.252.149.226
>>It seems to be commonly agreed that nudity is a
>>prelude to the sexual act.
>>But could it also be a prelude to parental affection?
>
>>At one time in our prehistoric past, we shed our fur
>>and replaced that fur with clothes.
>>That didn’t change our instincts any.
>>Children go right on wanting to hug naked parents
>>and parents go right on wanting to hug naked children.
>>
>>I don’t know if Higonnet (1998: 58) shares my
>>evolutionary theory, but she sees “The Child’s
>>Bath” by Mary Cassatt as expressing “the everyday
>>comfort a mother and a daughter take in each other’s
>>bodies; contacts between maternal flesh and child
>>flesh create the central axis of the image.”
>>
>>Higonnet (1998: 127) also claims that parents in
>>Victorian England openly enjoyed seeing their children
>>nude.
>>Parents today would probably express similar feelings
>>if it were not for the witch hunt.
>>
>>When a photographer takes a picture of a nude child,
>>it is tempting to say that the photographer is
>>churning out child pornography.
>>But let us not be so quick,
>>Ron Oliver is a photographer who specializes in nude
>>children,
>>and his specialty has caused him an enormous amount of
>>trouble.
>>Yet he has received commissions from parents all over
>>the world to photograph their children (Childhood in
>>Art 2000).
>>Josh Sturges is photographer in the same specialty,
>>who has likewise fallen into legal trouble.
>>Both photographers have taken pictures in which a
>>naked child is in the arms of a naked parent.
>>Now try to wank over a picture like that!
>>
>>Childhood in Art. 2000. Ron Oliver.
>>https://www.childhoodinart.org/person.php?name=Ron-Oli
>v
>>er
>>
>>Higonnet, A. 1998. Pictures of innocence: The history
>>and crisis of ideal childhood. London: Thames and
>>Hudson.
>
>Thanks to everyone who responded. I thought this might
>be some maternal form of connection I was missing the
>context for. I will speak to my son about being more
>open with bio mom as he feels comfortable. Her being
>back in their lives is a more recent thing and I think
>there needs to be more patience given from both sides.
> Cheers!
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