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Date Posted: 15:33:19 05/28/11 Sat
Author: George
Subject: Re: c-not-of-c budget, smoke and shadows?
In reply to: Lois 's message, "c-not-of-c budget, smoke and shadows?" on 10:42:35 05/28/11 Sat

>The c-not-of-c is working on its budget again. It is
>kind of confusing, I think it is meant to be
>confusing. It seems that they are simply rearranging
>things to make things look better. They say, �the
>budget will include Oblation, World Hunger, and
>special-project funds, including disciple and
>congregational leaders formation.�
>
>The thing that strikes me is that very recently Steve
>Veazey shook the iron fist and let the priesthood
>members know that they had better pay their tithing.
>Probably the homosexual agenda is what many were
>objecting to and withholding contributions. All of a
>sudden contributions seemed to go up.
>-------
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/june/IntoTheFu
>ture-Veazey.pdf">http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/jun
>e/IntoTheFuture-Veazey.pdf
>
>I am receiving some correspondence and messages that
>state the recent action of the World Conference to
>approve the counsel I brought to the church is mainly
>what is depressing tithing. That may be so.
>However, I want to be clear that as long as I am in
>the role, I will bring to the church my clearest
>perceptions of the mind and will of God.
>
>A nonnegotiable for me is that I will not compromise
>vision, message, and the Spirit�s clear guidance in
>the face of threats from individuals that they will
>withdraw their financial support if they do not
>agree with church direction or certain decisions.
>
>Steve Veazey says it again, "Another nonnegotiable for
>me is priesthood support of World Ministries Mission
>Tithes. Soon, we will put in place an administrative
>policy that will state clearly that we will not
>approve the ordinations of people whose understanding
>of the gospel and ordained ministry does not include
>awareness and support of the worldwide ministries of
>the church through tithing. We�ve had way too much
>drift in local congregations and mission centers on
>this matter."
>------
>
>Translation: "I don't give a d--n how you feel about
>anything. Get on board with our agenda."
>
>Hey, guess what, I agree. Get out of the c-not-of-c.
>It is not worth it. What does it have to do with Jesus
>Christ? I say, nothing.
>------
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2011/may/2012budget
>.asp">http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2011/may/2012budget
>.asp
>
>Mission-based Budget Brings Hope
>
>The new budget clearly translates into Spirit-led
>hope. It springs from the growing numbers. It springs
>from opportunities to express generosity. And it
>springs from the mission initiative format that gives
>a direct voice to contributors.
>
>That format represents a marked shift in how the
>church approaches budgeting and how members show
>generosity. Instead of focusing on what the church
>needs, the new budget lets people give based on
>their own sense of mission.
>--------
>
>Yeah right! C-not-of-c leadership simply talks out of
>both sides of the their mouths. So, is giving based
>on the iron fist threat that the church will come down
>hard on the membership, or is it based on the spirit
>leading the membership, priesthood included, to give?
>That is the question. It can�t be both ways.
>
>Submitted by Lois

Lois, the leadership expects tithing to be paid, because Joseph Smith, Jr. received revelations stating that the members of the Mormon church, founded in 1830,requires its members to tithe. Tell the NCC that the Community of Christ has nothing to do with the church founded by Joseph Smith, Jr. in 1830, and you pretty much knock the blocks out from under both tithing and priesthood.

The corrupt Jewish priesthood of the days of the Maccabees was similar. When outrages permitted by the priest Menelaus were formally presented, Menelaus paid off the authorities, and had the plaintiffs executed instead. That's how disiciplinary action in the CofC has functioned since the days of 156's implementation.

George

2 Maccabees 4:23-50

But Menelaus, because of the cupidity of those in power, remained in office, growing in wickedness, having become the chief plotter against his fellow citizens. 4:50

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Re: c-not-of-c budget, smoke and shadows? -- Lois, 11:15:32 05/29/11 Sun

Re: c-not-of-c budget, smoke and shadows? -- George, 11:50:16 05/29/11 Sun