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• Louisville Feis is open for registration on FeisWorx! -- LF Committee, 13:46:37 05/14/13 Tue
  The Louisville Feis, on June 15th, is returning to its bigger and better venue at the Kentucky Fair and Expo Center, South Wing A!!!
  
  Hurry and register now for the Mid-American feis with Southern hospitality! This is a great opportunity to get in some more competition practice before the North American Irish Dance Championships!
  
  We will have 4 grades stages and 2 champ stages. Sashes will be awarded to all 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place champ level winners. We will again have our cute, little stuffed horses for all of our First Feis competitors!
  
  Make your hotel reservations by May 24th to take advantage of the feis rate - http://cwp.marriott.com/sdfap/louisvillefeis/
  
  For the first time, the Louisville Feis is holding a Basket Raffle! There will be several fun and fabulous baskets full of wonderful goodies! More information to come.
  
  We can't wait to see you in the Derby City on June 15th!
  

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  • For champs, will it be youngest to oldest or visa versa? (NT) -- Love your feis btw(:, 23:26:21 05/14/13 Tue
    • Yes, youngest to oldest. (NT) -- LF Committee, 11:53:47 05/15/13 Wed
  • This is a nice feis and the venue this year is really nice. Looking forward to it. (NT) -- Lots to love in Louisville., 23:26:49 05/14/13 Tue
  • If you can stay long enough to have Sunday brunch at Lynn's Paradise Cafe (NT) -- It is a must, 10:20:47 05/15/13 Wed
    • Unfortunately, that restaurant closed recently. :( (NT) -- No name, 11:51:43 05/15/13 Wed
      • Oh, NO! It was one of our favorites and always busy when we visited. Big loss to the city. (NT) -- No name, 14:52:41 05/15/13 Wed

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• Cincinnati Feis 6/9 - am I missing something? Seems like very low registrations for one month away. My DD's comps don't even have 5 dancers, let alone the usual 20+. Too close to end of school? Or something else? Never been to this one; is there something I should know? -- No name, 16:24:52 05/05/13 Sun
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  • used to be end of June, back-to-back with Dayton. Well-run feis, numbers will climb. Just a busy time with graduations (NT) -- we can't make it this year, 16:34:28 05/05/13 Sun
  • Know of several dancers from Dayton that usually go, but aren't this year because of the furlough at the Air Force base. That's just our school, don't know how it's affecting dancers from the other 3 schools. (NT) -- No name, 18:26:49 05/05/13 Sun
    • The furloughs shouldn't effect many families-especially since the govt. keeps reducing the # of days and may not furlough altogether. (NT) -- But alas, some are bracing for it just in case. They'll be missed this year., 19:00:03 05/05/13 Sun
  • Remember, May is a busy month in this part of the region when it comes to feising. Some dancers are waiting until after the double feis in Cincinnati/Kentucky to register. Some will even wait until after Memorial Day weekend feising and make the late payment. (NT) -- These days, they are taking registr. almost to the date of feis. People are waiting longer., 18:56:35 05/05/13 Sun
  • Numbers for all June feiseanna are low right now (Indy, Cincy, Louisville, Dayton). Entries normally pick up mid to late May. Cincy will usually even take entries after Detroit for those who need to place still! (NT) -- Great feis, don't worry. Numbers will climb soon :), 20:50:41 05/05/13 Sun
  • Sure wish the Cincinnati feis would be back-to-back the same weekend as Dayton (June 22-23), like it was for years. (NT) -- Geographically made sense., 23:49:08 05/05/13 Sun
    • No! Too close to nationals so all OC from our school had to miss. Love that it's earlier now so we are allowed to attend. And bonus: it's not far from Indy! (NT) -- Still get back 2 back, 08:34:10 05/06/13 Mon
      • Indianapolis is much further from Cincinnati than is Dayton. Those were great back-to-back feises, and worked well for many people for many years. (NT) -- sorry that it has been changed., 17:22:01 05/06/13 Mon
        • Exactly! Cincy to Dayton is apx. 1 hour, Cincy to Indy is 2 hrs. Unless we danced early at the Cincy feis, I wouldn't have it in me to drive 2 hours -- ., 23:49:55 05/06/13 Mon
          • We have stopped doing the Cincy Feis due to the weekend change for this very reason. (NT) -- Two hours may not seem a lot, but when you're doing two feises in one weekend, it is., 06:39:13 05/08/13 Wed
            • And we have started doing it, since the date change. Never gonna please everyone! (NT) -- Thanks Cincy, love your Feis!, 21:11:02 05/08/13 Wed
    • We are sorry that the new date does not work for you all. Our commitee loves the new date and we are sorry you are not able to join us anymore. Maybe we will see you in the future! (NT) -- Cincy Feis Committee, 09:03:19 05/08/13 Wed
      • We would have gone except Chicago Feis moved to Sunday from Monday. Do not want to Feis and drive and Feis...wanted the break (NT) -- No name, 06:51:04 05/13/13 Mon
        • Chicago Feis is not on the same weekend as Cincy. Chicago is the Monday after Cleveland. (NT) -- No name, 08:58:55 05/15/13 Wed
  • There are 25+ registered for my dd dances ... so wondering about splits not whether enough dancers (NT) -- No name, 00:36:54 05/07/13 Tue
  • Where do you see competitor names or numbers? (NT) -- No name, 17:10:51 05/07/13 Tue
    • On Efeis if you click on the Cincinnati Feis and go to syllabus you can see how many people are in each competition. (NT) -- hth, 07:35:37 05/08/13 Wed
      • Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 00:19:23 05/10/13 Fri
  • Cincy feis administrators posted that grades will split at 27 (NT) -- No name, 22:36:39 05/13/13 Mon

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• Relocating to Columbus area... -- adult dancer, 23:25:21 05/12/13 Sun
  I'm moving to the Columbus area for grad school. I am a novice level &over dancer. Are there any "adult" friendly schools in the area (I'm in my early 20s, if that makes a difference)? Would like to have the opportunity to continue to compete and learn in a friendly environment.
  
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  • Millennium has a nice adult class program and is excellent! There are two locations in Worthington and Granville. (NT) -- No name, 06:28:27 05/13/13 Mon
  • area TCRG -- No name, 11:28:52 05/13/13 Mon
  • Katie Irwin -- No name, 18:16:20 05/13/13 Mon
  • The Millennium Adult classes are awesome -nice group of dancers and the teacher is awesome! (NT) -- No name, 18:40:07 05/13/13 Mon
  • If you are going to Ohio State, I believe Richens/Timm still has an active adult group that meets downtown. (NT) -- Irish Mom, 20:48:20 05/13/13 Mon
  • From your post ... it says you dance "and overs" not Adult .... contact each school to see who has the best program for your level of dance (some only have older dancers in Adult level) (NT) -- -, 22:57:50 05/13/13 Mon
  • In Dayton, RT closed their adult program and wouldn't let adults dance in "& Overs." I don't know if they have the same policy in Columbus (NT) -- No name, 08:05:15 05/14/13 Tue
    • What do you mean by closed the adult program? (NT) -- No name, 11:21:13 05/14/13 Tue
      • They had a class for adult dancers. Some were almost ready to move into "and Overs." One of the TCs had to cut her hours and the adult program was eliminated (NT) -- Sadly, 11:30:38 05/14/13 Tue
      • The Dayton program is still very much going and new dancers are welcome. (NT) -- Not offended but where'd you get your information?, 11:32:07 05/14/13 Tue
        • New adult dancers, I mean. Obviously children are accepted all the time for the regular program. (NT) -- No name, 11:32:51 05/14/13 Tue
          • I'm sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. They welcome new adult dancers!!! They are the sweetest group of ladies around! They are always trying to get me to join them and there are teachers at the ready. They DO welcome new adult and overs!!! (NT) -- No name, 12:19:43 05/14/13 Tue
            • They closed their Indy program for adults. Don't know about the rest of them, but one of my friends danced for them in Indy and it closed. So, irrelevant for this, but just to clear it up. :) (NT) -- Hope this helps!!!!, 14:57:52 05/14/13 Tue
              • I apologize. You are correct. It was the Indy program that closed, not Dayton's. My mistake for causing confusion. It wasn't on purpose (NT) -- No name, 15:13:01 05/14/13 Tue
                • No problem. Have a good night! : ) (NT) -- No name, 16:12:50 05/14/13 Tue
  • Didn't know their was a flexability to go from Adult to "and over". What are the rules to compete in each? (NT) -- -, 07:13:49 05/15/13 Wed
    • You can go from adult to "and over," but once you compete in "and over" you have to wait 5 years to compete as an adult. (NT) -- No name, 08:56:22 05/15/13 Wed

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• Just curious if Akron Feis has any improvements planned for this year? There was much feedback the last couple of years re the delays and venue. We want to be supportive and giving it another go but hoping for a better experience -- No name, 08:45:42 05/12/13 Sun
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  • Well, the venue is what it is; if you want an air-conditioned ballroom, look elsewhere. It seemed that the switch to Quickfeis improved time-to-results last year. (NT) -- We'll be there!, 09:23:22 05/12/13 Sun
  • Our experience was fine last year. (NT) -- No name, 10:02:48 05/12/13 Sun
  • Enjoyed it -- No name, 10:50:42 05/12/13 Sun
  • The venue is what it is; we wouldn't trade it for the world. It is a large feis with excellent competition, outstanding musicians, camping room, great vendors, nice awards (NT) -- Don't know what else you are looking for, 11:53:54 05/12/13 Sun
  • Although I've had my times of saying "never again," we always come back. It's an old-fashioned feis, and can be tough on a hot day, but it's a great atmosphere, great competition, and a true feis experience. A rough year when "under new management," but last year was fine. (NT) -- we'll be there again!, 12:08:53 05/12/13 Sun
  • Have missed it the past two years and travelling back this year. Have never had a bad experience, I guess it is what you make of it! (NT) -- No name, 13:38:37 05/12/13 Sun
  • Just say "Hi" to that mound of dirt that has been at the back door for the 15 years we have been attending this feis. It's a fairground, lots of dust. Good competition and great awards. Have fun! (NT) -- MW Mom, 23:16:32 05/12/13 Sun
  • And don't wear your whitest socks (NT) -- We love this one!, 07:29:00 05/14/13 Tue
    • Thanks for the reminder - we love Akron (NT) -- but it's hard on the poodle socks, 23:30:54 05/14/13 Tue

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• Akron and Cleavland-Does anyone know who the vendors are? -- No name, 20:31:51 05/14/13 Tue
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  • Ballinvilla is in Akron. Northwest Designs has made t-shirts for Cleveland (NT) -- No name, 22:15:53 05/14/13 Tue

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• How do prelims at Dayton Feis run? -- No name, 19:04:11 05/14/13 Tue
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  • Last year was oldest to youngest, I believe. (NT) -- No name, 22:13:19 05/14/13 Tue

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• Cleveland Feis question -- No name, 23:50:52 05/11/13 Sat
  Wow! DD's OC competition has 40 paid competitors! Does Cleveland Feis ever split into single-age for OC? First time attending as champ dancer.
  

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  • Good practice for Nationals!!! LOVE BIG numbers in OC!!! (NT) -- Alana, 10:48:58 05/12/13 Sun
    • I agree that big numbers are a great practice for nationals, which is actually why we are going from out of the region, but I would love to see how my DD would do up against her own age group! (NT) -- Out-of-towner!, 12:18:04 05/12/13 Sun
  • Last year the double age group 716OC had 38 dancers. They didn't split. (NT) -- No name, 13:37:24 05/13/13 Mon
  • they also do recall if over 20 dancers. not sure if same (NT) -- this year, 15:29:30 05/13/13 Mon
    • I am from out of the region, how do mean recall? (NT) -- No name, 14:30:41 05/14/13 Tue
      • dancers do 1st two rounds, they tabulate, then call the top half to do sets. It makes for a long day, and disappointing for those who don't get to do their set (NT) -- like a major, 19:04:33 05/14/13 Tue
        • Oh wow, is that usual in the mid America region? (NT) -- No name., 19:52:34 05/14/13 Tue
          • no, not common; Akron used to do it, but they stopped. It isn't really a time saver, as they have to tabulate twice, then call all the dancers back to the stage to announce the recall, then get them organized to dance. Quicker to just have them all do their sets (NT) -- No name, 20:31:21 05/14/13 Tue
            • Thanks for the heads up! We are going to get as much competition as possible before nationals, Id say it was almost a dry run except for the double age group. Also dancers really need the practice of doing their sets, whether they place or not! Oh well, still good to get the competition! (NT) -- No name., 21:16:30 05/14/13 Tue

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• Is the Badger State Feis happening this year? -- The website is for last year and I can't find any information., 21:32:51 05/13/13 Mon
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  • Pretty sure it's on the NAFC schedule for July 20. (NT) -- mom, 22:33:35 05/13/13 Mon
  • Under "coming soon" on Feisworx. (NT) -- No name, 23:05:51 05/13/13 Mon
  • Traditionally they open at the end of May. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:17 05/14/13 Tue
  • Thanks all. We want to do the double feis that weekend, but won't make the drive until we know we are able to do both. (NT) -- Saw Cream City Feis was open, but no information on Badger State., 11:29:00 05/14/13 Tue
    • We're not going to make the drive until July! :) (NT) -- No name, 16:57:52 05/14/13 Tue
      • LOL, what I meant was we don't want to commit to one feis until we know we can get her into both. (NT) -- It's a long drive for us so we want to get in both feises for sure:-), 19:54:17 05/14/13 Tue

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• Does anybody remember if Akron and Cleveland run by dance or level in the grades? Been a few years since we were there. Thanks if anyone does have info for me. -- No name, 13:41:47 05/12/13 Sun
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  • This will amaze you....copy paste the link inside to see the 2012 stage assignments -- :), 20:17:56 05/12/13 Sun
    • Wow - I've never seen a feis run like this before, doing all your dances in a row. Must make for very tired dancers, plus it appears there is little time to change from soft to hard shoes. (NT) -- No name, 21:45:45 05/12/13 Sun
      • It's GREAT. There's time enough to change shoes, you don't have to rewarm up for every dance... It's great. NER feiseanna do this a lot, I've noticed. Take your hardshoes up to stage with you, along with a bottle/cup of water. Put both under your chair--you'll have time to change and get a drink. (NT) -- Hth. Loved this format in grades., 22:09:05 05/12/13 Sun
        • When my dd had to do all 5 ances in a row at Cleveland, is was NOT great. Only 6-8 dd in her comp. they didnt even step off stage, just danced RL, then SJ, etc.shoe change gave a break tho. (NT) -- No name, 08:26:26 05/13/13 Mon
    • some people love this, because they get out fast. Others hate it, because their dancer gets tired and they are less likely to see multiple judges because it's hard to rotate them this fast. There are pluses and minuses either way. (NT) -- No name, 09:40:56 05/13/13 Mon
    • That schedule is several years old - the competitor list has my ds (now retired) in OPW and that was well over 4 years ago (NT) -- ecr mom to a ds (retired) & dd, 23:57:35 05/13/13 Mon
      • Wow, you're right, the competitor list is REALLY old! The "Way Back Machine" is showing the schedule as being for 2012, so I don't know if that is incorrect, or if the link to the competitor list is bad. In any case, I don't think the feis has changed the way in which they organize the stage (more) -- poster of the link, 03:38:58 05/14/13 Tue
        • So for me it means I do need a hotel.....thanks for the linke (NT) -- ecr mom to a ds (retired) & dd, 18:39:37 05/14/13 Tue
  • Whoa doesn't that cause stage conflicts? Looks like if they follow this again we have novice and prizewinner two separate stages around the same time? (NT) -- No name, 10:43:11 05/13/13 Mon
  • Every NER feis we've attended runs grades competitions this way.It can be exhausting & invigorating.Since all in the group are subject to the same conditions, it is fair.Agree- it's hard to rotate ADs unless the dancers are assigned to neighboring stages running at the same rate (ala Nashville) (NT) -- It's also a preview of the stamina needed in PC, 12:09:58 05/13/13 Mon
    • Looks like only 408 and 508 were on separate stages but hopefully they fix that this year (NT) -- No name, 12:44:29 05/13/13 Mon
  • Well if they do this, my dd will be on one stage for most of her dances and some other stage for 2 dances that they put her in U14 and over as an U16 (NT) -- ECR mom, 23:50:04 05/13/13 Mon

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• rooms needed at Marriott -- No name, 15:29:50 05/14/13 Tue
  Needed: Anaheim Marriott rooms for July 4th and 5th. Please send email to
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• Solo dress number holder attachment -- No name, 15:15:49 05/12/13 Sun
  Is there any way to attach a solo dress number holder to my dd dress without sewing it on so we could possibly reuse it?
  

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  • If you hand stitch a looped ribbon through the number clip ... -- No name, 17:15:47 05/12/13 Sun
    • We use a tie pin (from Michaels) and a crystal that matches those on the dress. Put it through the card and through the dress and attach back. I use the same hole each time. (NT) -- Works like a charm!, 14:05:07 05/14/13 Tue

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• Cincinnati Feis PC/OC Reaching Cap! -- Cincy Feis Committee, 13:46:10 05/14/13 Tue
  Less than 25 spots remain until we reach our cap for PC/OC! Enter now on eFeis to secure your spot!
  
  NEW this year...Sashes for Top 5 and a new Top 5 Podium for PC/OC dancers!
  
  Visit www.cincinnatifeis.com for more information!
  
  Runs Oldest to Youngest.
  

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• How is Queen City going? Any Results from Prelim U13? -- Madge, 13:59:13 05/11/13 Sat
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  • Results are up on Feis Worx ALREADY (NT) -- Dawn, 17:18:21 05/11/13 Sat
  • They did an amazing job with fast results except when I just pulled up comments there are two different judges names for dances that she 100% had the same judge for? Odd (NT) -- No name, 19:30:20 05/11/13 Sat
    • sounds like just a small data entry error that doesn't matter. They did a great job, especially considering the fact that they had major judge transportation issues. IT was nice of other AD's who were there to step in for comps in which they didn't have dancers. (NT) -- No name, 20:07:13 05/11/13 Sat
  • Are the results correct? (NT) -- No name, 19:53:31 05/11/13 Sat
  • Yes the result seemed right (NT) -- No name, 19:58:42 05/11/13 Sat
  • poor planning & changes (NT) -- No name (nothing to do w/ judge problem), 21:14:30 05/11/13 Sat
    • What are you talking about? Probably one of the best planned feis! (NT) -- Dd not do well?, 06:27:49 05/12/13 Sun
    • I also don't know what you're talking about. This is a very well-organized and well-run feis. We were there most of the day, and other than short judge-related delays (that were handled well), we saw no problems. (NT) -- one of our favorites every year, 10:16:32 05/12/13 Sun
  • will the results of all the specials be posted? I am only seeing a few. (NT) -- great feis!, 17:53:26 05/12/13 Sun
    • specials were awarded at the stage, so it's possible that some of the sheets didn't make it back to the tabulators immediately; this may be why they didn't get posted with the other results. Could still be posted, if they're given to feisworx later. (NT) -- not a big deal - specials just for fun, 09:43:39 05/13/13 Mon
      • Not a big deal. I just makes sense to publically recognize those that won. It would be good marketing for next year! (NT) -- No name, 16:49:07 05/13/13 Mon
      • It is my understanding that if Feisworx does not tabulate the results before they are awarded they will not post them. (NT) -- No name, 09:22:29 05/14/13 Tue

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• Dayton Feis prelims--oldest to youngest? -- Trying to find a feis where dd can dance in the morning and make it back in time to work., 12:45:36 05/11/13 Sat
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  • Depending when you need to get back, my experience has been that kids dance early, then have to wait HOURS before results. My dd has been in the first 2 groups 2 years in a row, and results weren't announced until after lunch. Youngest to oldest in years past. (NT) -- No name, 13:04:17 05/11/13 Sat
    • Last year prelim was oldest to youngest. (NT) -- No name, 17:20:48 05/11/13 Sat
    • In all fairness, their was a computer glitch last year that caused a delay. The year before, there weren't any notable problems with slow results. (NT) -- Really!, 12:23:59 05/13/13 Mon
      • "There" not "their." (NT) -- PP, 12:24:46 05/13/13 Mon
  • Please read message inside first post. (NT) -- Tabulation chair, 00:49:00 05/14/13 Tue
    • Sorry, it's late. Meant inside post but posted before I typed it. -- No name, 01:07:36 05/14/13 Tue

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• I would like to delete registrations on efeis... -- technology challenged!, 16:23:03 05/13/13 Mon
  I can't figure out how to delete my registration! I thought dd was going to be able to go to a feis - now we can't. To avoid skewing the numbers for those who are looking at attendance, I'd like to delete it. HELP!
  
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  • There's a "please leave a message" box at the top left, and you can also email the feis secretary (NT) -- hth, 16:29:53 05/13/13 Mon
  • If you haven't paid for it yet, just uncheck the checkbox. but if you've paid for it, i'm not sure how (NT) -- --, 20:01:13 05/13/13 Mon
  • I hadn't paid - so I did uncheck the boxes - and it worked!!! Thank you!! (NT) -- OP, 22:55:06 05/13/13 Mon

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• Cream City Feis -- Michele, 07:46:48 05/13/13 Mon
  Is now open. Join us for the coolest feis in the Midwest.
  

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  • Does anyone happen to have the stage assignments from last year? Just trying to gauge when my PW DD will dance this year. (NT) -- No name, 11:58:19 05/13/13 Mon
    • I think they schedule by dance not level. But I don't have the schedule to confirm that. (NT) -- No name, 12:32:23 05/13/13 Mon
    • Plan to be there all day. (NT) -- No name, 13:40:27 05/13/13 Mon
  • Feis on Saturday lasts most of the day; feis on Sun starts earlier & runs much faster (NT) -- No name, 22:27:18 05/13/13 Mon

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• Feistan will be on site for the 2013 North American Nationals in Anaheim. We have been airbrush spray tanning Irish dancers since 2008. Some of our past events include the MARO, NEO, NAN’s and Worlds -- The Tan Man, 19:00:36 05/13/13 Mon
  www.Feistan.com for appointments and more information
  

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• Queen City Feis - boys competition -- No name, 18:12:32 05/13/13 Mon
  My son (in prizewinner) and I watched a competition at Queen City - I think it was Boys under 15 or 14 - open champs. I see the results on feisworx but we don't know those four boys and was wondering if someone can match the names with what they were wearing. It was a good competition and we're interested to see how they placed. Thanks so much.
  

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• Cleveland Feis: when will you post a competitor list? -- Thank you!, 18:36:38 05/12/13 Sun
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  • Cleveland does not post a competitor list. They don't seem compelled to do so.l (NT) -- MW Mom, 07:10:46 05/13/13 Mon
    • They do have a "link" on their website for a competitior list, and I seem to remember that last year they published one at some point (NT) -- but I could be mixing them up with Akron, 08:15:06 05/13/13 Mon
    • Cleveland always used to post one (before they switched to Feisworx ). Don't remember what they did pat year, but I'm pretty sure they posted one.or posted the link to Feisworx one. They have to request Feisworx to publish the list, it's not automatic on fw. (NT) -- No name, 08:24:06 05/13/13 Mon
    • Cleveland did post a competitor list in 2012. The feis is still almost two weeks away. (NT) -- No name, 11:29:00 05/13/13 Mon

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• Cincinnatti Feis / youngest to oldest? -- No name, 00:28:38 05/10/13 Fri
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  • Nope other way around. In archives is a post from the committee saying OLDEST to YOUNGEST. (NT) -- No name, 04:30:11 05/10/13 Fri
  • Cincinnati Feis runs Oldest to Youngest (NT) -- Cincy Feis Committee, 10:44:04 05/13/13 Mon

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• Dean Crouch Music -- www.DeanCrouchMusic.com, 08:18:16 05/13/13 Mon
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• Grand Canyon State Feis -- GCSF, 05:57:39 05/13/13 Mon
  Just a reminder to register and pay for The Grand Canyon State Feis by Friday the 17th to avoid a late fee of $20.
  
  You will still be able to change your entries after the 17th without a late fee but registrations must be paid. We have many special events planned for the family.
  
  Friday night join us for a live Ceili Band, Saturday night will feature a live DJ Poolside with a dinner buffet. We have a western art special open to everyone, candygrams featuring Arizona's own Cerretas Candy, wonderful raffle items featuring weekend stays at local resorts, new Ryan and O'Donnell ghillies and much more!!
  
  We will also be running a 50/50 raffle both Saturday and Sunday, with all proceeds to benefit the Richard Family Fund. Beautiful Doubletree rooms are still available for $89. A link can be found on feisworx or our website www.grandcanyonstatefeis.com Hope to see you there!!
  

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• DETROIT FEIS! Wednesday, May 15 is the last day to register for the Detroit Feis without a late fee. -- Detroit Feis Committee, 23:33:01 05/12/13 Sun
  All competitions will be 2 at a time except for Traditional Set which will be 3 at a time.
  
  Open Championship and Sheila O'Kennedy Dance Off will be held on a raised stage.
  
  Hope you will join us for the 52nd Detroit Feis!
  
  Registration on Feisworx.com.
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• Detroit Feis -- No name, 10:12:22 05/12/13 Sun
  Does anyone know if Detroit Feis typically runs oldest to youngest or the other way around? Thanks
  

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  • Other way around. (NT) -- No name, 20:35:54 05/12/13 Sun
  • PC/OC will run youngest age groups first. (NT) -- Detroit Feis Committee, 23:14:18 05/12/13 Sun

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• Happy Mothers Day. If your family is like mine, Mom does the accounting to make sure there are funds for dancing, takes care of the calendar so all of us can do our own activities, chauffer, travel agent and GPS programmer. She is my biggest fan and most dependable shoulder, if needed -- Thank you, 11:59:21 05/12/13 Sun
  (unsigned, so it could be form any one of us!)
  

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  • You sound like a wonderful young lady. Job well done, mom! (NT) -- No name, 21:40:36 05/12/13 Sun

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• Nationals 2013 -- Qualifing, 17:29:09 05/12/13 Sun
  
  Do WMH get "passed over" when figuring new qualifiers from Nationals results?
  

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  • Yes. "In calculating the number of qualifiers from a Regional or National Oireachtas dancers deemed to have qualified by having attained medal winning positions at the previous Oireachtas Rince na Cruinne will count as competitors but not as qualifiers." (NT) -- same way for regional or national, 18:15:25 05/12/13 Sun

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• kudos to Kay Powell! She was an amazing musician on stage 1 at Queen City! -- No name, 22:45:09 05/11/13 Sat
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  • Lucky you! We've seen Kay at many a feis, always claps and cheers for the dancers. What a gem! (NT) -- No name, 10:54:41 05/12/13 Sun
  • We love when she's on our stage! So supportive and positive! (NT) -- No name, 16:24:23 05/12/13 Sun

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• My dd has a small Galway crystal vase she received from recalling at the MW Oireachtas a few years ago. It's on a shelf and getting a little dusty, and I was wondering what is the best way to clean crystal? -- No name, 11:57:45 05/11/13 Sat
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  • Well if it's just dusty, a duster should work. I use a swiffer one one mine. If it's dirty, hand wash it in soapy water. Rinse well. (NT) -- No name, 13:27:54 05/11/13 Sat
  • If it is filmy, wash it gently in soapy dishwater. If you want it to sparkle, add a bit of white vinegar to the water. Rinse well and dry with a clean towel. The trick is eliminating grease from the surface, as well as dust (NT) -- No name, 14:04:30 05/11/13 Sat
    • Good advice. That's what I was getting ready to advise! (NT) -- No name, 20:36:36 05/11/13 Sat
  • My mom always used a mixture of white vinegar with rubbing alcohol. Did the trick and sparkly crystals. Also use this to brighten crystals on a dress and crown (done carefully, of course) (NT) -- Happy Mother's Day to all, 10:38:32 05/12/13 Sun

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• Considering the Indy Feis. How are grades organized? By dance or by level? Have an Beg and a PW and trying to figure out how the day would go. Thanks in advance for the help! -- No name, 08:32:54 05/11/13 Sat
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  • Another question for Indy feis -- at what number will grade dances be split? Thank you. (NT) -- No name, 16:05:24 05/11/13 Sat

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• Dd in prelim for 2 years and not placing. Goes to class and practices. Improving but still not placing. Any advice. She is feeling a little discouraged. -- Thanks in advance, 16:51:21 05/05/13 Sun
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  • She'll get there.....she may need to talk to her teacher about other options...including changes in parts of her steps that don't fit her style (NT) -- No name, 17:07:11 05/05/13 Sun
  • Another option: if your TC allows, try a feis or 2 in another region. A change of faces and/or ADs sometimes provides a nice break. Different ADs may yeild different comments. Having steps which contrast with the rest of the competition is good sometimes, too. (NT) -- It's hard to take out-of-region firsts, but she may be placed (I'm rooting for her), 17:52:02 05/05/13 Sun
  • My dd has been stagnant in PC for 2 years, too. Tc shakes his head, says he doesn't know why...that dd is looking great. No advice, OP, but you aren't alone! Especially hard when dd is a diligent, hard-working dancer who gets compliments from ad's instead of criticisms. (NT) -- No name, 18:27:37 05/05/13 Sun
  • What are you waiting for? If you feis a lot, and still are getting beat, then it is obviously the TC/choreography - time to transfer. (NT) -- jmho, 07:28:54 05/06/13 Mon
    • Not OP, but we hope to make it work. No options in area except 1, where we'd never ever go. (NT) -- No name, 08:31:48 05/06/13 Mon
      • That's too bad. If the other school is producing winners, then I'd check it out, u can't believe everything read on boards or TC - have to go see yourself. Old TC tried to scare everyone about a certain school, boy did dd advance quick once transferred- found out all rumours were just that-rumours! (NT) -- Love it there!, 12:18:21 05/06/13 Mon
        • Producing winners is one thing--I'd also look at how many dancers are injured from that school. If there are lots of bad injuries but also winners, it means the training is very hard on the dancer and the TC isn't very good about caring about dancer's limits. Just be careful. I'm (NT) -- glad you're happy with your transfer! :), 13:19:54 05/06/13 Mon
          • You nailed it...we'd never go there because of the number of injuries and the severity. Dd is very driven, but I want her feet, legs,knees & hips to last beyond her ID years. (NT) -- No name, 13:43:57 05/06/13 Mon
          • Too true. For some TCs that "winning at all costs" attitude leads to emotional & physical injury for the dancers. It also leads to TC behaviors that can be interpreted as collusion or exhibitionism at feiseanna.Each dancer reaching his/her potential, which hopefully informs a set of goals (NT) -- should be the aim of every well-balanced, healthy dance school program, 19:51:46 05/06/13 Mon
            • Oh Good Grief !!!! Injuries happen in EVERY school ... it has nothing to do with "winning at all costs". Stop being so damn overdramatic ... Even the worse dancer and teacher will have an injured dancer ... recreational dancers get injured ... (NT) -- Good Lord that is just ignorance, 23:55:04 05/06/13 Mon
              • There is a large school in our city that overpractices their dancers, especially choreography teams headed to Oireachtas and Worlds. Each team ends up with lots of dancers in boots and substitute dancers. (NT) -- Vicki, 07:22:47 05/07/13 Tue
                • Our school had some injuries, but bc dancer was practicing daily, not only at class but at home as well - really overdid it. There has to be balance, but I know many that really push before majors, and hence the injuries. It happens everywhere (NT) -- No name, 07:25:58 05/07/13 Tue
                • I think we all know the schools which are the extreme at drilling dancers into the dust. Injuries and worse, a killed love of the activity. There is a majors' push at all competitive schools, but at some it goes on year round (NT) -- Injuries happen, yes. But some schools have a terrible track record of them, 12:15:30 05/11/13 Sat
              • Totally agree! I know one girl that is stuck in PC and would love for her to transfer to our school. She would be a wmh easy, but she is too loyal to tc to transfer. Sad, bc if the tc really wanted the best for her struggling dancer, she would encourage the move. (NT) -- jmo, 07:24:08 05/07/13 Tue
              • Looks like AP touched a nerve. However, you parsed your response as though the AP had written any school that had any injuries was bad.Reread.Yes, any individual dancer can be injured dancing at any given school.It is more important to look at the trends at a school.Do you see -- Did AP's general observation sound like any school you know? (more inside), 07:57:06 05/07/13 Tue
              • Pot calling the kettle black much? The post above you wasn't dramatic. Yours was--was the swearing really necessary? You need to take a chill pill. I agree with ^, looks like AP hit a nerve. Most good schools don't have HUGE amounts of injuries. (NT) -- Calm yourself., 09:17:06 05/07/13 Tue
              • At our school, backing off during practice is a sign of weakness. TC encourages dancers "to just dance through it". There are several severely injured dancers right now. -- No name, 12:30:29 05/07/13 Tue
                • Ooohh. She has a drill sargeant TC. I love those. Tough on kids, but would have the stuffing knocked out of them if they were subject to the same treatment by another adult. More parents need to be like you and advocate for their dancers (NT) -- No name, 12:39:58 05/07/13 Tue
              • Wouldn't it be refreshing if TCs with your attitude just came out and said, "Yes, winning is everything and even more important than health. Come to our school if you agree!" (NT) -- Honesty would be a nice change of pace, 12:18:54 05/11/13 Sat
    • Are other dancers from your school placing well? If no one is placing well it may be choreography. Otherwise just stick with it. For some it takes more time. (NT) -- Aa, 11:45:00 05/06/13 Mon
      • **Good point here!** How are the other dancers doing in the school? This is an important question. (NT) -- good luck, 09:21:27 05/07/13 Tue
  • My dd was in prelim for a long time before she started placing. She started taking private lessons with an older dancer and that seemed to help. The corrections were the same as in class but just a little more focus and practice. She actually got her two firsts and is now in OC! (NT) -- Julie, 17:39:18 05/06/13 Mon
  • I was in Prelim for 4 years- two with one school, two with another. (Transfer due to my family moving to a new state) Both schools had very different TCs& choreography but I found that what it truly took was my own dedication and perseverance. -- No name, 21:39:17 05/07/13 Tue
    • What do you do when you're dancer is in PC but the only kids at her school that place are in the province class. The few kids who are in the "advanced" class from our school don't place in PC. It's hard to compete with longer classes three times a week. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:51 05/08/13 Wed
      • Transfer. There are much better options available to you. Check out the other schools and move on. (NT) -- We did and dd is WQ., 17:58:24 05/08/13 Wed
      • I would have to agree with the AP. If the school places dancers in particular classes and is inflexible about alternatives, your only other option is transfer, especially if your dancer is making a long term commitment (NT) -- and can't meet his/her goals in the current location, 23:54:08 05/08/13 Wed

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  • Really seems a bit unfair to the "official" tanner who pays a large fee to be a vendor at the event, to have some unknown and unvetted person also be a tanner. I would no ore trust someone like this - who has never done Irish dancing - to tan my child. (NT) -- To each their own, 01:59:18 05/11/13 Sat

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• Just saw a commercial - Say Hi to Ohio. There was a two second clip of some Irish dancers holding "Hi" signs and dancing. Good job. -- What school was in the commercial?, 20:21:08 05/09/13 Thu
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  • It's a visit bureau commercial .... look on You Tube or call them (NT) -- oHIo, 06:26:52 05/10/13 Fri
  • Commercial -- No name, 09:09:24 05/10/13 Fri
    • For which? (NT) -- No name, 09:50:42 05/10/13 Fri
  • I believe it is Richens/Timm! (NT) -- No name, 11:43:12 05/10/13 Fri
    • For the bureau? (NT) -- No name, 12:30:49 05/10/13 Fri
      • Travel bureau. It is a commercial to promote oHIo. (NT) -- **, 16:57:46 05/10/13 Fri

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• Dance Out For Jane DC Michelle Lewis Dress RAFFLE -- feis2k12, 16:45:58 05/10/13 Fri
  On May 5, 2013, the Washington, DC area Irish Dance schools hosted Dance out For Jane DC at four different locations. The events raised in excess of $10,000 so far. Needless to say, 100% of the donations are benefiting the Richard Family Fund. For additional information please visit http://culkinschool.com/do4jdc/ and http://www.facebook.com/DanceOut4JaneDC
  
  As part of our fund raising effort, we were able to secure an Irish dance dress graciously donated by Mrs. Michelle Lewis (Lewis Irish Dresses http://www.lewisirishdresses.com/). We established a raffle the winner of which will be announced on May, 26, 2013 at the conclusion of the CCE Feis in Emmitsburg, MD.
  
  
  In today’s economy, I am sure that the opportunity to participate in the raffle will be mutual advantageous! I would like to emphasize that this is not a fundraiser benefiting any Irish Dance School. One hundred percent (100%) of the money collected will go to the Richard Family Fund.
  
  Checks should be made out directly to “The Richard Family Fund” and they can be sent to:
  
  OZANA @ DOFJDC Raffle
  P.O. Box 18622
  Washington, DC 20036
  Accompanied by: name, address, phone number and e-mail as well as a self addressed postage prepaid envelope.
  Mail-in deadline: May 24, 2013
  Entries received between May 22-May 24 will receive the tickets in .pdf format via e-mail.
  
  1 TICKET $20
  3 TICKETS $50
  7 TICKETS $100
  
  Tickets will also be available:
  May 18, 2013 - Orlando Feis
  May 19, 2019 - Emerald Association of Putnam County Feis (final approval pending)
  May 26, 2013 - CCE Feis
  
  The winner will be announce via Facebook page on May 26, 2013 @ 4:00PM
  
  Please join our Facebook page for additional details and event pictures http://www.facebook.com/dofjdc.raffle and contact us at dofjdcraffle@gmail.com with questions.
  

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• I see a "school only feis" listed on feis worx. Do placements from such a feis count for movements from level to level and Oireachtas qualifications? -- Curious, 11:52:38 05/10/13 Fri
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  • Our school used to run a family feis, and while it was as structured and organized as any other fees, all students got detailed comments and everyone got a medal. It was, though, just a practice-run and didn't count for anything at all. (NT) -- No name, 13:09:11 05/10/13 Fri
  • Short answer: (NT) -- no, 15:13:55 05/10/13 Fri

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• Does anyone know at what number Akron and Cleveland split comps? -- No name, 14:56:21 05/08/13 Wed
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  • Do they split grade competitions? daughter has over 40 in her dances. (NT) -- mom, 07:22:04 05/10/13 Fri
    • they have always split grades in the past, although I don't know the number. With over 40, they're certain to split. They do not split champ comps. (NT) -- hth, 08:30:59 05/10/13 Fri
      • they actually did split a couple of PC comps last year - i believe the number was 30 (NT) -- dd's comp was split, 12:50:58 05/10/13 Fri

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• Rose City Feis is open on Efeis -- Rose City Feis Committee, 23:01:06 05/08/13 Wed
  We are pleased to announce that the Rose City Feis is open on E Feis. Please join us at our new location at St. Thomas of Villanova High School on Saturday August 17 2013. Please visit our website at www.rosecityfeis.webs.com for more info and pics of our new location.
  

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  • Beautiful venue. Looked at the pics today on the website. Championship in the theater will be amazing. (NT) -- Thanks for the new location., 08:51:50 05/09/13 Thu
    • I'm embarrassed to admit, I can't find the photos of the venue. What link did you use? (NT) -- Thank you in advance, 09:00:26 05/09/13 Thu
      • on the bottom of the home page. click on the link (NT) -- hth, 09:18:46 05/09/13 Thu
        • Ah, ha! My browser wouldn't support the widget. Now that I'm in a different browser, I can see. What a beautiful school! It will be a great venue (NT) -- No name, 15:08:25 05/09/13 Thu
  • Does anyone know the difference between a "traditionl set" and "contemporary set" for prizewinners at this feis? (NT) -- Don't know if DD should do one or the other or if she can do both., 09:39:30 05/09/13 Thu
    • contemporary sets -- RCF committee, 09:58:48 05/09/13 Thu
      • If I know DD, she'll do both. It'll be good practice in case she recalls at the 'O.' (NT) -- No name, 11:43:53 05/10/13 Fri
  • It's worth mentioning that this is the same weekend as the Great Lakes Feis, which is only a short distance away. (NT) -- No name, 09:40:48 05/09/13 Thu
    • We have done these feiseanna in the past. It is a very easy drive. Of course, a box of Timmy Ho's picked up before leaving Windsor makes the trip more fun (NT) -- No name, 15:03:50 05/09/13 Thu

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• 2013 Great Lakes Feis Registration OPEN on Feisworx!!! -- No name, 14:14:35 05/09/13 Thu
  The 2013 Great Lakes Feis is accepting registrations at www.feisworx.com The Sunday August 18 feis is held again in the beautiful and spacious Lansing Center with plenty of camping room. Once again there will be a dance workshop for beginners and art workshops for all. We look forward to seeing all of you in August!
  

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  • Favorite Feis of all time! Best place to eat is at Clara's Lansing Train Station right down the street on Michigan Ave. Best Sunday buffet ever! (NT) -- No name, 08:15:00 05/10/13 Fri
    • We went there last year. It was a short walk from the feis venue and the food was good. (NT) -- Saw a lot of girls in wigs while we were over there:-), 11:42:17 05/10/13 Fri

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• First time going to Queen City Feis. Is there space for camping? -- TIA, 06:55:45 05/10/13 Fri
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    • Great, I'll pack the chairs! (NT) -- OP, 10:01:32 05/10/13 Fri

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• Akron and Cleveland Feis- Champs run young to old ? -- mom, 09:03:21 05/10/13 Fri
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  • historically, Akron is youngest to oldest, Cleveland is oldest to youngest. I don't know if they're changing, but unlikely (NT) -- hth, 09:07:01 05/10/13 Fri

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• Does Celtic Fling run prelims oldest to youngest or opposite? -- No name, 19:23:20 05/09/13 Thu
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  • I think its more scattered. When dd was U11 or U12 she was at the end of the day. (NT) -- --, 08:25:41 05/10/13 Fri
    • Has been scattered in the past. Last year was youngest to oldest. The jg that posted above is on the committee, so I'll take his word. (NT) -- ~Kris, 08:31:00 05/10/13 Fri

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• Cincy/Indy Feis -- how will splits be handled for grade dances? Thank you. -- No name, 00:46:44 05/07/13 Tue
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  • The Cincinnati Feis splits grades at 27. Hope that helps! (NT) -- Cincy Feis Committee, 13:37:56 05/07/13 Tue
    • Thank you. :) (NT) -- No name, 00:34:36 05/10/13 Fri

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• Is it true that that Bluegrass increased it's cap this year by 200 + competitors? -- No name, 13:38:09 05/08/13 Wed
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  • They increased by 150 competitors. Their cap went from 450 to 600. (NT) -- No name, 13:52:36 05/08/13 Wed
  • So from feisworx, they have 609 confirmed, so they added 159 competitors. (NT) -- No name, 15:05:00 05/08/13 Wed
    • Others could have dropped out and notified them so that they could let them add more to make 600. (NT) -- No name, 15:36:02 05/08/13 Wed
    • Sometimes it could be a case of simultaneous entries as well. So if there is one spot left an a family with 5 dancers is registering, I believe the system will let all 5 register. Not register one and move all the others to a waiting list. (NT) -- No name, 22:01:03 05/08/13 Wed
  • I was just surprised they increased the cap by 150, after attending last year, thought the feis ended at a decent time. (NT) -- No name, 10:14:01 05/09/13 Thu
    • It's actually very prudent for a feis to keep a low cap their first year, and increase their size gradually. Great job last year, Bluegrass! I'm sure you'll handle this year beautifully! (NT) -- No name, 11:53:06 05/09/13 Thu
  • It looks like they added another stage so they should still be moving at a good pace to ahndle the extra competitors. (NT) -- No name, 11:06:59 05/09/13 Thu
    • One of the committee members told me yesterday that they expect it to be finished around 3pm. (NT) -- --, 12:08:26 05/09/13 Thu
  • I agree, I appreciated a new feis keeping their cap low the first year. I think it helped make the feis a success. That is why I was concerned that they increased their cap. I don't want to get out any later than I did last year :) (NT) -- No name, 16:17:40 05/09/13 Thu
    • Bigger space and an extra stage. It ought to work. (NT) -- --, 23:23:41 05/09/13 Thu

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• Is QC or BG offering a mass at the venue this weekend? -- Traveling crew, 14:45:16 05/07/13 Tue
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    • Mass -- No name, 22:31:34 05/09/13 Thu
  • check masstimes.org (NT) -- No name, 23:35:43 05/08/13 Wed

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• Is Bluegrass Feis posting a competitor list? -- No name, 09:15:36 05/08/13 Wed
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  • The competitor list will be posted today on Feisworx. (NT) -- No name, 11:08:42 05/09/13 Thu

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• Does Detroit Feis run PC oldest to youngest or youngest to oldest? We have never been there. Have heard it is nice. -- No name, 10:50:23 05/08/13 Wed
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  • PC and OC comps will run youngest to oldest. (NT) -- Detroit Feis Committee, 20:27:37 05/08/13 Wed
    • Thanks so much for the info! (NT) -- No name, 21:52:35 05/08/13 Wed

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• In looking at the Bluegrass stage schedule, some PC comps on the same stage (5) that will be used for grades comps. Is Stage 5 going to be small? Other PC comps and OC are on a separate stage (7). Is Stage 5 smaller than Stage 7? -- No name, 22:45:12 05/07/13 Tue
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  • Got a reply from their committee: They use double stages - one large stage that is divided into two grade level size stages. Stage 5 is one of those. Stage 7 is champ sized. When stage 5/6 is finished with grade competitions it will be turned into stage 5. (NT) -- No name, 06:53:38 05/08/13 Wed
  • I hope that doesn't go on forever (NT) -- Dance Mom, 14:26:52 05/08/13 Wed
  • Timing estimates from FeisWorx project that grade stages will be done in early afternoon. (NT) -- Member of Bluegrass Feis Cmte, 15:16:45 05/08/13 Wed
  • I ran the formula for grades against Stage 5, excluding the figures/treble reel, and it indicates it will take just under 2 hrs to get to the first PC comp. So, add another half hr or so for figures/TR; I would guess PC will start around 10:30-11:00. (NT) -- No name, 17:38:13 05/08/13 Wed

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• breaking in hard shoes -- No name, 21:23:04 05/04/13 Sat
  what products used for leather to help break in hard shoes? Was a post a bit ago, cannot find in the search. A leather product to help soften. thanks
  

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  • a lot of people use a product that's for baseball gloves that you pop in the oven. (NT) -- I keep wanting to call it "Ov Glove" but I know that's wrong, 18:38:02 05/07/13 Tue
    • Hot Glove. Sounds dirty, doesn't it? ;) We don't use anything on hard shoes, just wear 'em and sweat in 'em. (NT) -- Old MAID ;), 17:26:04 05/08/13 Wed

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