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Oh and I forgot to add this in my main post, that in so many TV bios I have read, they mention that once they forst put on the dresses, it's like an awakening and so many of them are so intensely attracted to females and mixed up in that attraction is that fascination with the clothes, the fabric, the hair and the make-up but also they are fascinated watchers of all things that girls do, our play, our banter, our gestures, etc. But I can't determine whether much of the intensity of the interest is due to the fact that it's taboo for men and so it has to be secret. Secret taboo things are such a powerful attraction!