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Date Posted: 12:12:03 04/25/02 Thu
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I

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GerryB.
In Response To CTAJ
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:48

RE: "Most Americans Say They're Christian."
Most Americans have no Idea what it means to be "Christian." Most have no idea what the Bible says on the subject. They don't understand what Jesus Christ meant when he said. "Ye must be born again."

*Coinkydink
In Response To Ctaj
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:47

It's the Moslems, Jews and Christians who all think they have God locked up in a box.
*Coinkydink
In Response To Ctaj
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:45

I have friends who are Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, Quakers, Jews and Christians...The Hindus, Bahais, Quakers and buddhists are very accepting and loving and not so stiff-necked.
`Ctaj
In Response To Coinkydink
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:40

I think trying to understand and accept those who are different is much healthier than trying to make everyone conform to one way of thinking and living. It is the ONLY way we will ever have any peace that lasts and prosperity for everyone. I think it is the love of God that makes this understanding happen too.
That would be true if the Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Christians could all agree that they're all worshipping the same God. But they can't, and millions die over this quibbling.

`Ctaj
In Response To Murray
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:38

Feel free to reply to my questions from 18:02 and 18:18 yesterday just any ol' time. I'll be around.
*Coinkydink
In Response To Stephen
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:35

"I actually see things in our society as showing us as being much healthier than those who came before." So do I, but the things I think are healthier ...Like a better awareness of the different cultures and religions. I think trying to understand and accept those who are different is much healthier than trying to make everyone conform to one way of thinking and living. It is the ONLY way we will ever have any peace that lasts and prosperity for everyone. I think it is the love of God that makes this understanding happen too.
Jesus gave the example when he divided the loaves and fishes, feeding the hungry and then told them to pray "Our Father"...IMO, this means that God hears and is Father to everyone.

`Ctaj
In Response To RonB
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:26

Our society is going to hell in a handbasket because it is no longer Christian.
The facts belie your assertion. Most Americans Say They're Christian. You comprise 83% of our population, while 52% of the rest of the world is non-Christian. Yet, we're the country with supposedly declining moral values.

The problem is that (1) your religion gives an automatic free pass to offenders, and (2) bases its system of morals and ethics on myths that most folks don't really buy into, despite the lip service.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Murray, Dori, Gerry, Ron
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:24

Sometimes prayer isn't enough to protect children...like Murray says we need to protect them ourselves. Praying didn't protect me from being molested by my step father when I was 6, but perhaps it kept me sane...well, sort of anyway...;) All I know is that the presence of god saved my mind when I could very well have caved in and become a sick or bitter person. You think because I challenge you , that it constitutes challenging God. It doesn't. God has always been there and still is. I just don't need you telling me who he is.
And so long as you continue to support evil-doers, who starve or bomb children, you are not serving God. And I don't need the likes of you running my government, thankyouverymuch!

*Coinkydink
In Response To Gerry
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:07

"Ever notice the amount of venom spewed out by Stephen when he gets wound up?" You seem to see hate no matter where you look...perhaps the problem is with your lenses...;)
*Coinkydink
In Response To Doriola
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 9:00

"If their parents haven't "indoctrinated" them, it's not likely they will be praying, is it? LOL!" Laugh all you want, but when I was 5 I was praying and building small alters in the yard, with no one teaching me anything about God, I just knew that IT was there...no one has the right to tell me that because I'd never heard of Jesus, that God wouldn't hear my childish prayers. The love coming from God surrounded me and protected me.
*Coinkydink
In Response To Murray
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 8:55

"It seems to me that God promises to bless those who trust Him, serve Him and obey Him. It almost seems like you have a beef with that." No, my beef is with those people who claim to have exclusive access to God, who is and always was available to all people at all times, regardless of who their parents are or what their belief system is. God is a lot bigger than you seem to think. There is NO one true church, EXCEPT the one that works in the souls of people, through the Spirit of the only God. Cultural teaching has nothing to do with children reaching out to God... it is an inborn desire.
Murray
In Response To GerryB
Thursday April 25, 2002 at 8:53

Good Morning, Gerry!

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