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Date Posted: 11:13:36 11/13/01 Tue
Author: TitanCzar
Subject: Re: Big West Tradition?
In reply to: USUBlue 's message, "Re: Big West Tradition?" on 10:44:11 11/13/01 Tue

That really is the problem in the Big
>West, for every school but USU, its "fans" don't
>attend unless the team is winning or somehow it's in
>vogue. Supporting your team, just because they are
>playing, appears to be lost on most Big West school.
>Maybe it just a California thing, but immediate
>gratification is not a quality which builds good
>sports programs. In the south, athletics is religion;
>in California, it appears to be a fad. USU is
>somewhere in between.

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I think you miss the real point. If LB or CSF or UCI aren't winning, fans of those schools have other choices for their dollar. In Logan there aren't any pro teams that USU is competing against.

>I think BMF is correct; real program stability comes
>from alumni and long-term institutional support.
>Faddish students and the instant-gratification fans
>are not going to help Big West teams in the long-run.
>Long Beach is no exception. 3,000 fans per game is a
>joke for a program that has been playing BBall as long
>as the Beach. Your alumni and administration have
>clearly failed to define themselves, and waiting for
>quality wins is simply an excuse for improving now.

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The fact of the matter is that no BW school has enough alumni base or support to get an AD fired or removed. The same goes for coaches. I know a lot LB people are starting to see that Schumard isn't a good AD. But there's not enough support to buy out his contract.

At CSF the last couple years of Hawking many people wanted him fired. But CSF can't afford to buy out Hawking's contract and then pay a new coach. There aren't enough big money donors who can put pressure on the AD to fire him.

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Replies:

Re: Big West Tradition? -- USUBlue, 12:36:55 11/13/01 Tue
- Re: Big West Tradition? -- TitanCzar, 13:37:22 11/13/01 Tue
  - Re: Big West Tradition? -- 49er Kevin, 15:33:33 11/13/01 Tue
  - Re: Big West Tradition? -- 49er Kevin, 15:39:12 11/13/01 Tue