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Date Posted: 02:08:13 12/02/04 Thu
Author: UBF member
Subject: Thoughts

I thought I would write some of my thoughts down. I apologize if it doenst make sense.

I am a college member of UBF from Chicago. After the MSU conference, I went to New Jersey to join an orchestra camp in which Peter Chang from Bonn, Germany was administering "training". I was totally shocked to see the fear tactics used and the amount of influence Dr. Peter Chang had. I was probably more angry and worried that these children, some not even teenagers, whom I would consider my brothers and sisters were being told what to do and how to do something, even if it did not make sense. However, I was probably most angry because this was not the character of UBF that I knew as a child, teenager and adult.

I know many people dont like UBF, no wait, many people HATE UBF. But speaking the truth, my experience in New Jersey was a totally new experience. These days in Chicago, I believe in my heart that the work of God is going on and there are changes that are being made, many of which I believe are a direct result of rsqubf. I guess in this way, I am thankful for all of you, even if it may not make sense. I am especially thankful for those that recognize that there are some real Christians in UBF and do what they do to help these real Christians (I believe Amy Young said this). Some changes include changes in the ways marriages are being administered. Two members of missionary J.H.'s fellowship married each other by their own choosing. They were openly dating during their 6 year stay in ubf. They asked JH to officiate their wedding, which he gladly did. One other "shepherd" in JHs fellowship (of several years) married a woman of God outside of UBF, under the blessings of ubf leaders. The couple asked JH to officiate the wedding which took place in Oregon. He gladly accepted. This couple will leave to Texas eventually, under the blessing of UBF leaders. I was baptized within UBF with 24 other members not too long ago. Some would strongly argue against this, but we accepted baptism from Christ and the Holy Spirit, not from a member of an organization. I am not boasting for UBF,rather thank God that his work is being done! Light and darkness cannot be at the same place at the same time.

I am deeply sorry for those that were hurt in UBF and pray that God may heal them quickly and fully and that he alone may judge those that inflicted harm on these people. Thank you all for what you have given ubf.

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