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Date Posted: 13:26:57 10/03/04 Sun
Author: Nick T.
Subject: Jim, ubf is a cult. Why are you here?
In reply to: jim 's message, "many people here to condemn..." on 00:50:17 10/03/04 Sun


I just want to say that you are recycling many old ideas, and I want to say they are partial ideas, about how ubf has done so much good, and very little bad. The facts say ubf has done so much bad but very little good. You didn't really write anything about dangers at ubf, and you did this on purpose, to mislead readers.

Very simply, I think you are presenting an inadequate picture of ubf, and in cults in general. Personally, I have been very much deceived and harmed by ubf leaders, ubf systems, ubf false teachings. I know hundreds of people who have also suffered likewise. I believe ubf is a cult, I have been in it and watching it for 20 years. How ling have you been involved withthe ubf? 3 years?

Jim, why are you here on this web board? Don't tell us it is to give glory to God, because I see you as using God and ubf almost interchangeably. Why are you here?

Why are you ignoring all the information, testimonies, and evidence that ubf is a cult, and then you pretend as if you are keenly aware of cults that you would change your mind about ubf IF you saw it becoming a cult? The facts have already been established, ubf is a cult. Get over it the ubf is definitely a cult.

I think you are the one guilty of circular reasoning. I think you are the one who condemns those who dare to speak up. I think you are the one who is spreading false witness. To me, you are copying John Kerry, who came to the debate pretending that he is George W. Bush, and spoke all of Bush's positions and told many lies and denied the facts about his own bahavior.

Jim, there is no excuse for what ubf has done and will continue to do. I hope you can start to be honest aobut this very important subject. And please don't spam us to death. Keep it simple, keep it real.

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