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[> [> [> Re: Canon of NT Scripture? -- CR (oops), 14:13:24 03/20/09 Fri

I think I got the Gospel of Barnabas & the Gospel of Philip backwards.

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[> [> [> Re: MORONS AND JOANN ELLIS AND MATTHEW VANDERPOOL -- BRO._DAVE, 00:06:40 12/21/06 Thu

>>A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE
>>
>>Joseph Smith, got his new religion going by writing a
>>book known as The Book of Mormon. The book was much
>>too dull to make it as a novel. Mark Twain called the
>>book "chloroform in print" so it was marketed as a new
>>bible! H-E-L-L-O? Having quite a flair for publicity,
>>Smith pretended to have translated The Book of Mormon
>>from a pile of gold plates dug out of a glacial hill
>>in upstate New York with the help of a resurrected man
>>no less!
>>
>>The BOM purports to tell of lost tribes of Israelites
>>and others floating to South America, some in giant
>>barrels, others in a boat. Arriving in America, they
>>all turned into Indians, (now we know why the indians
>>had big noses) built cities, fought wars, received a
>>visit from Jesus Christ after he couldn't make a go of
>>it in Palestine, and finally killed each other off in
>>A.D. 421. Shortly before the fatal fight a colossal
>>battle allegedly waged at Hill Cumorah, near Palmyra,
>>New York, a person (angel) appropriately name Moroni
>>buried some "golden plates" for Josepth Smith, its
>>founder, to find with his magic "seer stone!"
>>
>>Now the comedy begins. Joseph Smith claimed he had a
>>magic "seer stone," a stone with which he could see
>>inside hills and beneath the surface of the ground to
>>inspect for buried treasurers and enchantments! The
>>seer stone became transformed into the biblical "urim
>>and thummin" with which he later claimed he could
>>"translate" any language, including "reformed
>>Egyptian," the imaginary language in which his Jewish
>>Indians supposedly had written their history. A locked
>>box held what Smith claimed to be the gold plates
>>bearing this reformed Egyptian Chaldee Jewish American
>>Indian history. Are you believing this thus far? If
>>so, the Golden Gate Bridge is still for sale!
>>
>>Sitting in one-half of a room divided into two
>>sections by means of a blanket hung from a rope, Smith
>>would pretend to be translating aloud from the golden
>>plates and would dictate The Book of Mormon to his
>>secretary Martin Harris. Harris sat on the other side
>>of the blanket, afraid to peek at the plates for fear
>>he would be stricken with the plague, or the scab, or
>>hemorrhoids, and the botch of Egypt. LOL After many
>>days of such inventive labor, 116 pages of manuscript
>>had been written. All of it supposedly translated by
>>divine guidance by means of the magical seer stone!
>>
>>This is the foundation of the BOM (Book of Morons) and
>>if you take any further time reading it in its
>>entirety, then you are more lonely than we thought.
>>Who in the hell in their right mind would believe this
>>story? LOL!! You've got to be pretty gullible to
>>swallow such a history! Our history of Mount Sinai and
>>Moses, Noahan deluge, parting of the Red Sea, the
>>celestial impregnation of Mary, et al, is certainly
>>more plausable than the Book of Mormon. What a joke.
>>There's a sucker born every minute!look at joann
>ellis
>>as well as matthew vanderpool. drugs for sex
>>Brother D. Thomas. aint tht like a whore?
>>Always enlightening a cultural Christian!
>>http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7

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[> [> [> [> Re: JOANN ELLIS AND MATTHEW VANDERPOOL -- matthew_vanderpool, 06:05:24 06/28/08 Sat

>>>A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE
>>>
>>>Joseph Smith, got his new religion going by writing a
>>>book known as The Book of Mormon. The book was much
>>>too dull to make it as a novel. Mark Twain called the
>>>book "chloroform in print" so it was marketed as a
>new
>>>bible! H-E-L-L-O? Having quite a flair for publicity,
>>>Smith pretended to have translated The Book of Mormon
>>>from a pile of gold plates dug out of a glacial hill
>>>in upstate New York with the help of a resurrected
>man
>>>no less!
>>>
>>>The BOM purports to tell of lost tribes of Israelites
>>>and others floating to South America, some in giant
>>>barrels, others in a boat. Arriving in America, they
>>>all turned into Indians, (now we know why the indians
>>>had big noses) built cities, fought wars, received a
>>>visit from Jesus Christ after he couldn't make a go
>of
>>>it in Palestine, and finally killed each other off in
>>>A.D. 421. Shortly before the fatal fight a colossal
>>>battle allegedly waged at Hill Cumorah, near Palmyra,
>>>New York, a person (angel) appropriately name Moroni
>>>buried some "golden plates" for Josepth Smith, its
>>>founder, to find with his magic "seer stone!"
>>>
>>>Now the comedy begins. Joseph Smith claimed he had a
>>>magic "seer stone," a stone with which he could see
>>>inside hills and beneath the surface of the ground to
>>>inspect for buried treasurers and enchantments! The
>>>seer stone became transformed into the biblical "urim
>>>and thummin" with which he later claimed he could
>>>"translate" any language, including "reformed
>>>Egyptian," the imaginary language in which his Jewish
>>>Indians supposedly had written their history. A
>locked
>>>box held what Smith claimed to be the gold plates
>>>bearing this reformed Egyptian Chaldee Jewish
>American
>>>Indian history. Are you believing this thus far? If
>>>so, the Golden Gate Bridge is still for sale!
>>>
>>>Sitting in one-half of a room divided into two
>>>sections by means of a blanket hung from a rope,
>Smith
>>>would pretend to be translating aloud from the golden
>>>plates and would dictate The Book of Mormon to his
>>>secretary Martin Harris. Harris sat on the other side
>>>of the blanket, afraid to peek at the plates for fear
>>>he would be stricken with the plague, or the scab, or
>>>hemorrhoids, and the botch of Egypt. LOL After many
>>>days of such inventive labor, 116 pages of manuscript
>>>had been written. All of it supposedly translated by
>>>divine guidance by means of the magical seer stone!
>>>
>>>This is the foundation of the BOM (Book of Morons)
>and
>>>if you take any further time reading it in its
>>>entirety, then you are more lonely than we thought.
>>>Who in the hell in their right mind would believe
>this
>>>story? LOL!! You've got to be pretty gullible to
>>>swallow such a history! Our history of Mount Sinai
>and
>>>Moses, Noahan deluge, parting of the Red Sea, the
>>>celestial impregnation of Mary, et al, is certainly
>>>more plausable than the Book of Mormon. What a joke.
>>>There's a sucker born every minute!look at joann
>>ellis
>>>as well as matthew vanderpool. drugs for sex
>>>Brother D. Thomas, aint joann ellis a sorry excuse
>>> for a woman giving a missionary drugs for sex
>>> >href="http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7"
>>http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: JOANN ELLIS AND MATTHEW VANDERPOOL -- dan (sad), 05:45:22 08/20/11 Sat

>>>>A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE
>>>>
>>>>Joseph Smith, got his new religion going by writing
>a
>>>>book known as The Book of Mormon. The book was much
>>>>too dull to make it as a novel. Mark Twain called
>the
>>>>book "chloroform in print" so it was marketed as a
>>new
>>>>bible! H-E-L-L-O? Having quite a flair for
>publicity,
>>>>Smith pretended to have translated The Book of
>Mormon
>>>>from a pile of gold plates dug out of a glacial hill
>>>>in upstate New York with the help of a resurrected
>>man
>>>>no less!
>>>>
>>>>The BOM purports to tell of lost tribes of
>Israelites
>>>>and others floating to South America, some in giant
>>>>barrels, others in a boat. Arriving in America, they
>>>>all turned into Indians, (now we know why the
>indians
>>>>had big noses) built cities, fought wars, received a
>>>>visit from Jesus Christ after he couldn't make a go
>>of
>>>>it in Palestine, and finally killed each other off
>in
>>>>A.D. 421. Shortly before the fatal fight a colossal
>>>>battle allegedly waged at Hill Cumorah, near
>Palmyra,
>>>>New York, a person (angel) appropriately name Moroni
>>>>buried some "golden plates" for Josepth Smith, its
>>>>founder, to find with his magic "seer stone!"
>>>>
>>>>Now the comedy begins. Joseph Smith claimed he had a
>>>>magic "seer stone," a stone with which he could see
>>>>inside hills and beneath the surface of the ground
>to
>>>>inspect for buried treasurers and enchantments! The
>>>>seer stone became transformed into the biblical
>"urim
>>>>and thummin" with which he later claimed he could
>>>>"translate" any language, including "reformed
>>>>Egyptian," the imaginary language in which his
>Jewish
>>>>Indians supposedly had written their history. A
>>locked
>>>>box held what Smith claimed to be the gold plates
>>>>bearing this reformed Egyptian Chaldee Jewish
>>American
>>>>Indian history. Are you believing this thus far? If
>>>>so, the Golden Gate Bridge is still for sale!
>>>>
>>>>Sitting in one-half of a room divided into two
>>>>sections by means of a blanket hung from a rope,
>>Smith
>>>>would pretend to be translating aloud from the
>golden
>>>>plates and would dictate The Book of Mormon to his
>>>>secretary Martin Harris. Harris sat on the other
>side
>>>>of the blanket, afraid to peek at the plates for
>fear
>>>>he would be stricken with the plague, or the scab,
>or
>>>>hemorrhoids, and the botch of Egypt. LOL After many
>>>>days of such inventive labor, 116 pages of
>manuscript
>>>>had been written. All of it supposedly translated by
>>>>divine guidance by means of the magical seer stone!
>>>>
>>>>This is the foundation of the BOM (Book of Morons)
>>and
>>>>if you take any further time reading it in its
>>>>entirety, then you are more lonely than we thought.
>>>>Who in the hell in their right mind would believe
>>this
>>>>story? LOL!! You've got to be pretty gullible to
>>>>swallow such a history! Our history of Mount Sinai
>>and
>>>>Moses, Noahan deluge, parting of the Red Sea, the
>>>>celestial impregnation of Mary, et al, is certainly
>>>>more plausable than the Book of Mormon. What a joke.
>>>>There's a sucker born every minute!look at joann
>>>ellis
>>>>as well as matthew vanderpool. drugs for sex
>>>>Brother D. Thomas, aint joann ellis a sorry excuse
>>>> for a woman giving a missionary drugs for sex
>>>> joann is is sad

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[> [> [> [> Re: MORONS AND JOANN ELLIS AND MATTHEW VANDERPOOL -- matthew vanderpool (sad), 18:21:26 03/18/11 Fri

>>>A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE
>>>
>>>Joseph Smith, got his new religion going by writing a
>>>book known as The Book of Mormon. The book was much
>>>too dull to make it as a novel. Mark Twain called the
>>>book "chloroform in print" so it was marketed as a
>new
>>>bible! H-E-L-L-O? Having quite a flair for publicity,
>>>Smith pretended to have translated The Book of Mormon
>>>from a pile of gold plates dug out of a glacial hill
>>>in upstate New York with the help of a resurrected
>man
>>>no less!
>>>
>>>The BOM purports to tell of lost tribes of Israelites
>>>and others floating to South America, some in giant
>>>barrels, others in a boat. Arriving in America, they
>>>all turned into Indians, (now we know why the indians
>>>had big noses) built cities, fought wars, received a
>>>visit from Jesus Christ after he couldn't make a go
>of
>>>it in Palestine, and finally killed each other off in
>>>A.D. 421. Shortly before the fatal fight a colossal
>>>battle allegedly waged at Hill Cumorah, near Palmyra,
>>>New York, a person (angel) appropriately name Moroni
>>>buried some "golden plates" for Josepth Smith, its
>>>founder, to find with his magic "seer stone!"
>>>
>>>Now the comedy begins. Joseph Smith claimed he had a
>>>magic "seer stone," a stone with which he could see
>>>inside hills and beneath the surface of the ground to
>>>inspect for buried treasurers and enchantments! The
>>>seer stone became transformed into the biblical "urim
>>>and thummin" with which he later claimed he could
>>>"translate" any language, including "reformed
>>>Egyptian," the imaginary language in which his Jewish
>>>Indians supposedly had written their history. A
>locked
>>>box held what Smith claimed to be the gold plates
>>>bearing this reformed Egyptian Chaldee Jewish
>American
>>>Indian history. Are you believing this thus far? If
>>>so, the Golden Gate Bridge is still for sale!
>>>
>>>Sitting in one-half of a room divided into two
>>>sections by means of a blanket hung from a rope,
>Smith
>>>would pretend to be translating aloud from the golden
>>>plates and would dictate The Book of Mormon to his
>>>secretary Martin Harris. Harris sat on the other side
>>>of the blanket, afraid to peek at the plates for fear
>>>he would be stricken with the plague, or the scab, or
>>>hemorrhoids, and the botch of Egypt. LOL After many
>>>days of such inventive labor, 116 pages of manuscript
>>>had been written. All of it supposedly translated by
>>>divine guidance by means of the magical seer stone!
>>>
>>>This is the foundation of the BOM (Book of Morons)
>and
>>>if you take any further time reading it in its
>>>entirety, then you are more lonely than we thought.
>>>Who in the hell in their right mind would believe
>this
>>>story? LOL!! You've got to be pretty gullible to
>>>swallow such a history! Our history of Mount Sinai
>and
>>>Moses, Noahan deluge, parting of the Red Sea, the
>>>celestial impregnation of Mary, et al, is certainly
>>>more plausable than the Book of Mormon. What a joke.
>>>There's a sucker born every minute!look at joann
>>ellis
>>>as well as matthew vanderpool. drugs for sex
>>>Brother D. Thomas. aint tht like a whore? well i was fucking her so she is a cheap whore

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: MORONS AND JOANN ELLIS AND MATTHEW VANDERPOOL -- joann (sad), 10:15:55 08/25/12 Sat

>>>>A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE
>>>>
>>>>Joseph Smith, got his new religion going by writing
>a
>>>>book known as The Book of Mormon. The book was much
>>>>too dull to make it as a novel. Mark Twain called
>the
>>>>book "chloroform in print" so it was marketed as a
>>new
>>>>bible! H-E-L-L-O? Having quite a flair for
>publicity,
>>>>Smith pretended to have translated The Book of
>Mormon
>>>>from a pile of gold plates dug out of a glacial hill
>>>>in upstate New York with the help of a resurrected
>>man
>>>>no less!
>>>>
>>>>The BOM purports to tell of lost tribes of
>Israelites
>>>>and others floating to South America, some in giant
>>>>barrels, others in a boat. Arriving in America, they
>>>>all turned into Indians, (now we know why the
>indians
>>>>had big noses) built cities, fought wars, received a
>>>>visit from Jesus Christ after he couldn't make a go
>>of
>>>>it in Palestine, and finally killed each other off
>in
>>>>A.D. 421. Shortly before the fatal fight a colossal
>>>>battle allegedly waged at Hill Cumorah, near
>Palmyra,
>>>>New York, a person (angel) appropriately name Moroni
>>>>buried some "golden plates" for Josepth Smith, its
>>>>founder, to find with his magic "seer stone!"
>>>>
>>>>Now the comedy begins. Joseph Smith claimed he had a
>>>>magic "seer stone," a stone with which he could see
>>>>inside hills and beneath the surface of the ground
>to
>>>>inspect for buried treasurers and enchantments! The
>>>>seer stone became transformed into the biblical
>"urim
>>>>and thummin" with which he later claimed he could
>>>>"translate" any language, including "reformed
>>>>Egyptian," the imaginary language in which his
>Jewish
>>>>Indians supposedly had written their history. A
>>locked
>>>>box held what Smith claimed to be the gold plates
>>>>bearing this reformed Egyptian Chaldee Jewish
>>American
>>>>Indian history. Are you believing this thus far? If
>>>>so, the Golden Gate Bridge is still for sale!
>>>>
>>>>Sitting in one-half of a room divided into two
>>>>sections by means of a blanket hung from a rope,
>>Smith
>>>>would pretend to be translating aloud from the
>golden
>>>>plates and would dictate The Book of Mormon to his
>>>>secretary Martin Harris. Harris sat on the other
>side
>>>>of the blanket, afraid to peek at the plates for
>fear
>>>>he would be stricken with the plague, or the scab,
>or
>>>>hemorrhoids, and the botch of Egypt. LOL After many
>>>>days of such inventive labor, 116 pages of
>manuscript
>>>>had been written. All of it supposedly translated by
>>>>divine guidance by means of the magical seer stone!
>>>>
>>>>This is the foundation of the BOM (Book of Morons)
>>and
>>>>if you take any further time reading it in its
>>>>entirety, then you are more lonely than we thought.
>>>>Who in the hell in their right mind would believe
>>this
>>>>story? LOL!! You've got to be pretty gullible to
>>>>swallow such a history! Our history of Mount Sinai
>>and
>>>>Moses, Noahan deluge, parting of the Red Sea, the
>>>>celestial impregnation of Mary, et al, is certainly
>>>>more plausable than the Book of Mormon. What a joke.
>>>>There's a sucker born every minute!look at joann
>>>ellis
>>>>as well as matthew vanderpool. drugs for sex
>>>>Brother D. Thomas. aint tht like a whore? well i
>was fucking her so she is a cheap whore

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[> [> Anyone else annoyed by this Ellis guy?? -- MyLadyBanshee, 20:04:33 09/29/05 Thu

If he's banned, how does he mannage to come back like that??

By the way, I did a number check on the number listed in that post by "joann ellis" and it is listed to a Darrell Ellis...what a joke!!

Banshee

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[> [> [> Re: Anyone else annoyed by this Ellis woman -- terri, 00:49:21 10/09/05 Sun

>If he's banned, how does he mannage to come back like
>that??
>
>By the way, I did a number check on the number listed
>in that post by "joann ellis" and it is listed to a
>joann ellis
>
>Banshee

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[> [> [> Re: Anyone else annoyed by this Ellis woman?? -- donna gail (sicking), 23:44:13 10/02/07 Tue

>If she's banned, how does he mannage to come back like
>that??
>
>By the way, I did a number check on the number listed
>in that post by "joann ellis" and it is listed to a
>joann Ellis...what a joke!!
>she.s a sicko
>Banshee

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[> [> [> Re: Anyone else annoyed by this Ellis woman??? -- banshee, 01:14:40 07/05/08 Sat

>If he's banned, how does she mannage to come back like
>that??
>
>By the way, I did a number check on the number listed
>in that post by "joann ellis" and it is listed to a
>joann. Ellis...what a joke!!
>a cheap whore byany standwards
>Banshee

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[> [> [> SATAN'S OBSERVER WITH NOTHING TO ADD, GET YOUR SATANIC A$$ INTO THIS THREAD NOW!!! -- Brother D. Thomas, 17:02:54 10/23/05 Sun

Satan's brainless observer,

What the hell do you mean that you hate to support arguments like those of the men of God like Brother D and esteemed Brother Nathaniel P. Robbins! Do you realize how ignorant it makes you look in the eyes of the Christian God, Jesus the Christ, when you say that True Christians are hateful? We are simply following in the footsteps of our Lord in being Judgemental and Intollerant, as demanded by Him, duh!

Our Bible tells the following, to wit: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Romans 16:17). The Lord Jesus Christ commanded, "Judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). He told a man, "Thou hast rightly judged" (Luke 7:43). To others, our Lord asked, "Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" (Luke 12:57).

“I will say it again: If anyone preaches any other gospel than the one you welcomed, let God's curse fall upon that person ( Galatians 1:8-10 ). “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him” (John 3:36).

These are only a few of the passages to support the Christians position of judgment and intolerance of sin to anyone that doesn’t accept our faith.

In the name of the hung Savior.

Brother D. Thomas
Always enlightening the cultural Christian.
http://pub49.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm7

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[> [> [> [> Re: SATAN'S OBSERVER WITH NOTHING TO ADD, GET YOUR SATANIC A$$ INTO THIS THREAD NOW!!! -- Truth hurts BDT, 11:42:27 10/29/05 Sat

>What the hell do you mean that you hate to support
>arguments like those of the men of God like Brother D
>and esteemed Brother Nathaniel P. Robbins!


Didn't I type in English? Or are you illiterate?

Don't you have some kool aid to go and drink now?

lmao

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[> [> [> Re: Rants about the "lost gospels" -- Sheepdog, 17:39:34 11/18/05 Fri

#Ok so there are books left out of the Bible... maybe they were left out for a good reason. Maybe not.

***I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t like it if a government took over my freedom of religion. I wouldn’t like that government choosing what religious books I’m allowed to have.

#It does however leave some questions.
Enter Joseph Smith who seems to take advantage of this by proclaiming some outlandish (by traditional Christian dogma) beliefs.

***Joseph Smith had no idea about books left out or the total corruption that occurred in the 3rd century. He was only 21 when he translated the Book of Mormon. He had a 3rd grade education. What could he have known to take advantage?

#No one can refute them because all he has to say is "well your church is corrupt and has not provided complete information... here let me show you the "real" truth as revealed to me".

***Well, if you believe the first part, which there is plenty of evidence to support the claim, The only question then is about the validity of the “revelation”. Nobody here said that missing books = Joseph Smith is a prophet. He was indeed right about missing books and corrupt creeds.

#He is just filling the holes of doubt to support his own misguided agenda. But in reality the two are mutually exclusive.

***Have you read the Book of Mormon? What proof do you have that it was all his “misguided agenda” or that he was “just” filling in holes? None. You have no proof that there was no revelation. On the other hand, Joseph Smith has many people who testified that they had seen the plates and handled them. Some of those people even became enemies of him. You’d think an enemy would quickly deny this testimony wouldn’t you? But they did not do it.

#If you want to support Mormonism you should chose a different path of argument. Missing books? Big deal! This proves NOTHING.

***It was an Anti Mormon who started this conversation. We cover all sides here. Sometimes we lead the conversation, other times anti Mormons lead the conversation. I was taking each point that Lord V. had made and was answering specifics. Can I not do that? I don’t mind taking any path of argument my opponents choose. This forum used to be quite lively and full of intelligent conversations from both sides...until certain vermin started coming and filling it with obnoxious, hateful, filthy, mentally deranged, language and topic. And here they are, back again, just waiting to be caught misbehaving by the forum host. I think the host is out a whole lot of the time.

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[> [> Re: Rants about the "lost gospels" -- Lord Veritas, 15:38:30 10/24/05 Mon

MyLadyBanshee,
If I were you, I would just ignore Brother D. Thomas. There's no reasoning with him, so don't bother. Some people just like to make noise to get attention and actually giving them attention, good or bad, only serves to make them louder.

>Now on to the subject.
>
>In 315 AD, Athenasius, the Bishop of Alexandria,
>identified the 27 Books which we recognize today as
>the canon of New Testament scripture. Many important
>writings never made it into the Bible at all. The
>Bishops of Rome and the Pope tried to eliminate the
>use of these other materials, Gnostic or otherwise,
>which were considered by the Church of Rome to be not
>just irrelevant but harmful and damaging (Most likely
>to the power they themselves wielded over the
>people)!! Many of the writings are still available for
>us to read, so in a sense are not “lost”
>
>However, the Bible itself refers to several books that
>have not been found. Let me list a few;
>
>Old Testament
>
>1. Book of the Covenant (Exodus 24:4, 7)
>2. Book of the Wars (Numbers 21:14)
>3. Book of Jasher (Joshua 10:13 & 2 Samuel 1:18)
>4. Book of Statutes (1 Samuel 10:25)
>5. Book of the Acts of Solomon (1 Kings 11:41)
>6. Book of Nathan (1 Chronicles 29:29 & 2 Chronicles
>9:29)
>7. Book of Gad (1 Chronicles 29:29)
>8. Prophecy of Ahijah (2 chronicles 9:29)
>9. Visions of Iddo (2 chronicles 9:29)
>10. Book of Shemaiah (2 chronicles 12:15)
>11. Book of Jehu (2 Chronicles 20:34)
>12. Acts of Uzziah, Written by Isaiah (2 Chronicles
>26:22)
>13. Sayings of the Seers (2 Chronicles 33:19)
>14. Prophecies of Enoch (Jude 14)
>
>New Testament
>
>1. Missing Epistle of Paul (1 Corinthians 5:9)
>2. 2nd Missing Epistle of Paul (Ephesians 3:3-4)
>3. 3rd Missing Epistle of Paul (Colossians 4:16)
>4. Missing Epistle of Jude (Jude 3)
>
>In Matthew 2:23, there is a mention of a prophesy that
>Christ would be called a Nazarene. A prophecy, please
>correct me if I’m wrong, not found in our Old
>Testament texts.
LV:You made a lot of interesting references above. I will research them as soon as I can (my schedule is tough, so I apologize for my sporadicity)

>
>
>These are just a few of the references I have found.
>I have also read many fascinating papers on the
>subject.
LV:I would like to hear of some of them, if you don't mind.
>
>Lord Veritas, stated; “I suggest you tell us how the
>Gospel of Thomas could have been written by Thomas
>when he was killed more than five decades before it
>was written.” All scriptures are copies of copies.
>To my knowledge, no “original” texts have survived.
>Even the New Testament came from Greek texts which
>were themselves copies of older texts. The King
>James Bible’s New Testament was translated from the
>Textus Receptus which is classified by scholars as the
>Byzantine texts, dated somewhere between the 11th and
>12th century. It is also interesting that the Gospel
>of Thomas was not only preserved in a Coptic
>translation at Nag Hammadi but also in Greek
>fragments at Oxyrhynchus, proving that scriptural text
>were traditionally copied and recopied.
LV:You rose an interesting subject in the above fragment as well, but unfortunately, it does not answer my question. My question was how could St. Thomas write a gospel that was dated many decades after his death. Your diatribe on copying processes does not answer this at all, since it does not prove that he did in fact write the "lost gospel of Thomas", nor does it address the methods of dating its authorship, or call into question the dating of St. Thomas's death. You merely say that scriptural texts are copied and recopied, which is an entirely different subject altogether. I know that its hard to avoid going down tangents in these debates, but next time, please stick to information of relevance when answering an objection.

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