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Subject: Re: Faith Life Church


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Bob
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Date Posted: 18:26:27 11/01/06 Wed
In reply to: Tim 's message, "Faith Life Church" on 19:00:39 10/28/06 Sat

Again Tim I am impressed with your tolerance and ability to put with my view. I still think an orgainized Religion which attempts to grow and Profit on the large scale is doomed to failure. We do have a history to look back on. This type of movement is responsible for more death and destruction then anything else on this earth. It always leads to intolerance. The new age structure which harvests money based on fear is just a large scale of the small village church of 100 years ago. People naturally fear the unkown and are drawn to an explaination like a moth to a flame. Some people just can't handle not knowing something and need structured belief to relive the stress of Why. It is pretty clear that we will never know it all so why get all God fearing about it? There is little to suggest that anything in this universe gives a rats ass about what happens to us. There is even less to suggest that some single being made all this. Faith in a creator is fine if it makes you feel good. When it becomes an addiction its just that. You can believe without spending all your time proving it to the world. I wonder when after other church expereinces one suddenly has the answer the others missed. Seems like snake oil after a while.

I also have 3 people in my family (Jo's side) that are as I call them Psycho Christian. They in all cases shun family in friends for the Church. In one case a self inflicted castration almost ended in death. This was done to remove the urge to have sex and make following the lord easier. This resulted in a divorce and a loss of a home. Last I heard this guy was living in his car. He had the far off look and the measured responses to questions. Always seemed like he thought someone was watching him all the time.

What ever Tim. We go back a long way and it does seem since the JC thing really took hole that you are a lot less fun. Just an observation which is the only reason I would even bother writing all this.

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Date Posted: 21:42:33 11/02/06 Thu

no bother, my friend.

I don't get tired of talking about my Savior...

For me, what this walk with Jesus is all about is change; me changing to do things God's way. It's not easy, nor can anyone do it in their own strength. In Vermont you might say, spiritually speaking, 'you can't get there from here.' When Jesus said that it was easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God, I believe He was talking about anyone who is satisfied in this life without God. (rich people just have more stuff to distract them from what they really need!) In this passage in Matthew's gospel, where He talks about the eye of the needle and the rich man, Jesus was asked by his disciples, who then can be saved? Jesus response was:

"With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." - Matt 19:26

Grasping the truth of the gospel should make all who believe shout and jump for joy! I'm not trying to prove this to you or to anyone. I don't believe faith can be explained to the point where it can be intellectually accepted (although the great intellectual, CS Lewis, comes close).

I simply have a website where I attempt to share the word of God and my own understanding of the message of the gospel (good news), which I have received by faith and will share with anyone who might stumble in here and have the ears to hear. If you don't like what's on, change the channel!

I don't know much, but what I do know is that 'I once was blind and now I see' and while I'm not where I wanna be, I'm not where I used to be, and I'm ok today! The Holy Spirit is truly the knower that lives inside me. He guides me and direct me if I ask Him. I'm just trying to learn how to get my big SELF out of His way and let Him lead me and that's not always easy!

As I see it, every day, until we die, we have a chance to practice for heaven or hell right here on earth. We can choose life or death the Bible says it's up to us. In the Lord's prayer, probably the most familiar prayer of all, Which is also recorded in Matthew's gospel, Jesus says, even you would know this Bob, "Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed (holy) be thy name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH, AS IT IS IN HEAVEN..." If His will wasn't attainable here and now, then why would He tell us to pray this way? (this question is for those who say they believe in God and that His Word is Holy).

"It", as you say, is not an addiction for me, but is simply about learning how to rely on and walk in the truth of God's word and "it" IS better than any drug, and I've tried more than I care to remember!

The kingdom of God is something we enter by faith; the faith of a child. You can't apply the prayer until you first put on Christ to save you! This requires faith to believe that "it" (HE) is true. We cannot see the kingdom of God, except through the eyes of our spirit when we have been born anew by trusting in this one great truth.

if you don't have the faith to believe it, you certainly can't know it!

As for me not being the life of the party anymore. I think that is probably a good thing. If I don't look like I'm having fun, it's only because I need more practice!
I learned in Branson that we have to 'cultivate a spirit of thankfulness' in order for it to show on the outside. I believe that if I work on this it will begin to show on my face and there will be fruit in my life, but it will take persevering over the long haul. This walk is not for wimps! I got this way little by little and I will take this ground back from the thief, with Jesus help, little by little, until it shows on my face and in all areas of my life, or until Jesus comes back, whichever comes first!

I believe one thing is sure in the great time continuum known as History, we are as close to this event as any generation has ever been.

Are you ready?

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