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Date Posted: 20:33:48 09/08/02 Sun
Author: matthew Davidson
Subject: Re: The nature of original sin, the Jewish ideal
In reply to: Paul Angle 's message, "Re: The nature of original sin, the Jewish ideal" on 01:44:02 02/28/02 Thu

I think you need to re-examine the passages in the Old testament concerning the perfect nature of Job and some others. It is true that Job was a highly moral and spiritual man, but to say that he never sinned is to assume a lot. I think you will find that words like perfect and upright and so on are A. archaic King James words and not literal and B. Not absolute even if they are the actual words they appear to be. By the letter of the Jewish law and ordinances, if a person offended even in one point, he/she was guilty of all. This means if I steal a penny, I am a murderer and an adulterer and a blasphemer because I have fallen short of the perfect and absolute holy nature of God. God is holy and perfect, therefore He can not allow even the smallest sin to enter heaven, that is why mankind needs a redeemer. The redeemer must be God because God says He will not share His glory with another and because only a perfect sinless being would be sufficient to "heal us by His stripes." Also remember, the Messiah will be someone who is the Everlasting Father, or God (in Isaiah), and the modern Jewish belief that the mesiah is somehow Israel is inplausable, since the Messiah is someone who Isaih says will be punnished for the sins of "my people", and Israel was Isaiah's people, so Israel is not the messiah.

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