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Ant's -- Roger, Sat, 26 May 2012, 8:13:08 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)
Hey james,
Loved that link about the ant hill
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The Spear -- Zuma, Fri, 25 May 2012, 5:23:54 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/spear-zuma-portrait-court-apartheid#most-zeitgeist
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Leopard's revenge... -- James, Fri, 25 May 2012, 2:27:52 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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RAY: Whenever I hear of human idiocy toward animals I play the leopard piece which Jimbo sent aeons ago - the one in the back of the pick up being poked by a stick...
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. -- Ray, Thu, 24 May 2012, 23:09:00 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Poor ants.
Hope we learned something from this.
A wild mountain lion was found wandering around in Santa Monica this week, an urban and shopping center with high rise buildings at least five miles away from the Malibu mountains. While Fish and Game was trying to tranquilize it with darts some trigger happy cop shot it.
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Ant hill. SITE. -- James, Thu, 24 May 2012, 16:05:40 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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Ant Hill.
This is an amazing video of an ant hole that was filled in with cement and dug up to see what it looked like. Very interesting and video is short.
A few years ago, I mentioned that along with a few chums we carved out an underground gang hut for ourselves - we were schoolboys in N. Rhodesia. Someone on the site here scoffed at the idea staying that ant hills were not big enough. Then a kind BT chap added that he had a neighbour once in NR who made a garage from a defunct ant hill...
Here's something to think about the next time you stick a water hose in an ant hill and try to flush them out. Fascinating!
http://www.dump.com/biggestant/
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True -- Jimbo, Mon, 21 May 2012, 22:12:30 (NoHost/203.7.175.48)
The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that;
“When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, best strategy is to dismount " .
However, in government, more advanced strategies are often employed, such as:
1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
4. Arranging to visit other countries to see how other cultures ride dead horses.
5. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
6 Reclassifying the dead horse as living-impaired.
7. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
8. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed.
9. Providing additional funding and/or training to increase the dead horse's performance.
10. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse's performance.
11. Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly, carries lower overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
12. Rewriting the expected performance requirements for all horses.
And of course....
13 Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.
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The Oldest Joke -- Ray, Mon, 21 May 2012, 18:25:50 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
James here is the oldest recorded joke in the world if the originating website can be believed: Translated from Hieroglyphics 4600 years old : "How do you entertain a bored pharaoh? You sail a boatload of young women dressed only in fishing nets down the Nile and urge the pharaoh to go fishing."
Second Oldest Joke from a Greek book, 4 th century AD
“A Merchant was on a sea voyage when a big storm blew up, causing his slaves to weep in terror. ‘Don’t cry,’ he consoled them, 'In my will it says when I die you will all be free.'
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Ageless jokes... -- James, Sun, 20 May 2012, 19:12:21 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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The longevity of some jokes is amazing, AND they can criss cross the oceans at the speed of light. I told a hoary one to a chum in Glasgow a few years ago:
'Did you hear the one about the Newfie (Newfoundlander)
bobby who had to drag a horse which had fallen dead in the
shafts of the cart all of three blocks until he could find a street name he could spell so he could write out his report?'
My chum said his dad used to tell the same joke (with a Highland policeman) back in the 1930s.
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More Fannies -- ray, Sun, 20 May 2012, 17:13:49 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
This joke told to me many years ago, 1970, in Pretoria by a girlfriend. Yup that's how old it is. A secretary was frustrated because her boss kept on introducing her to colleagues as Miss Fanny. She took him aside and said, my name is Frannie, not Fanny. Please remember that. So the next time her forgetful absent-minded boss was about to introduce her, she whispered, Remember the R!!. He then introduced her as Miss Crunt.
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Fanny Green -- Jimbo, Sun, 20 May 2012, 8:20:11 (NoHost/203.7.175.48)
Fanny Green
An Irish man went to confession in St. Patrick's Catholic Church.
'Father', he confessed, 'it has been one month since my last confession. I had sex with Fanny Green twice last month.'
The priest told the sinner, 'You are forgiven. Go out and say three Hail Mary's.
'Soon thereafter, another Irish man entered the confessional. 'Father, it has been two months since my last confession. I've had sex with Fanny Green twice a week for the past two months.'
This time, the priest questioned, 'Who is this Fanny Green?'
'A new woman in the neighborhood,' the sinner replied.
'Very well,' sighed the priest. Go and say ten Hail Mary's.;
At mass the next morning, as the priest prepared to deliver the sermon, a tall,
voluptuous, drop-dead gorgeous redheaded woman entered the sanctuary.
The eyes of every man in the church fell upon her as she slowly sashayed up the aisle and sat down right in front of the priest. Her dress was green and very short, and she wore matching, shiny emerald-green shoes.
The priest and the altar boy gasped as the woman in the green dress and matching green shoes sat with her legs spread slightly apart, but just enough to realize she wasn't wearing any underwear.
The priest turned to the altar boy and whispered, 'Is that Fanny Green?'
The bug-eyed altar boy couldn't believe his ears but managed to calmly reply,
'No Father, I think it's just a reflection from her shoes'.
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Appropriate Humor For The BT -- Ray (yooohoo!!!), Wed, 16 May 2012, 3:32:44 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
SENIOR'S TEXTING CODE:
ATD: At The Doctor's
BFF: Best Friend Farted
BTW: Bring The Wheelchair
BYOT: Bring Your Own Teeth
CBM: Covered By Medicare
CUATSC: See You At The Senior Center
DWI: Driving While Incontinent
FWB: Friend With Beta Blockers
FWIW: Forgot Where I Was
FYI: Found Your Insulin
GGPBL: Gotta Go, Pacemaker, Battery Low!
GHA: Got Heartburn Again
HGBM: Had Good Bowel Movement
IMHO: Is My Hearing-Aid On?
LMDO: Laughing My Dentures Out
LOL: Living On Lipitor
LWO: Lawrence Welk's On
OMMR: On My Massage Recliner
OMSG: Oh My! Sorry, Gas.
ROFL…CGU: Rolling On The Floor Laughing... Can't Get Up
SGGP: Sorry, Gotta Go Poop
TTYL: Talk To You Louder
WAITT: Who Am I Talking To?
WTFA: Wet The Furniture Again
WTP: Where's The Prunes?
WWNO: Walker Wheels Need Oil
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Youn ventriloquist... Joke. -- James, Sun, 13 May 2012, 23:21:46 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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A young ventriloquist is touring the clubs and,one night, he's doing a show in a small town in Tasmania.
With his dummy on his knee, he starts going through his usual dumb blonde jokes.
Suddenly, a blonde woman in the fourth row stands on her chair and starts shouting, "I've heard enough of your stupid blondejokes. What makes you think you can stereotype women that way? What does the colour of a person's hair have to do with her worth as a human
being? It's men like you who keep women like me from being respected at work and in the community, and from reaching our full potential as people. You and your kind continue to perpetuate discrimination against not only blondes, but women in general... pathetically all in the name of humour!"
The embarrassed ventriloquist begins to apologize, and the blonde yells,
"You stay out of this, mate! I'm talking to that little shit on your lap!"
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lol -- Jimbo, Sun, 13 May 2012, 1:49:22 (NoHost/203.7.175.48)
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A Catholic girl went to confession and said to the priest, "I'm pregnant."
He asked, "How did this happen, my child?"
She said, "I think it must be the second coming."
The priest, shocked by this reply asked, "What makes you think it's the second coming?".
She replied, "Because I swallowed the first one........"
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I hear you... -- James, Thu, 10 May 2012, 20:39:19 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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Aye ahint ye. I hear, but dinna undestan'.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 10 May 2012, 3:39:51 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
and drink watery Miller High Life
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. -- Ray, Thu, 10 May 2012, 3:35:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
yes its dead.
Going back to my kia where I can listen to Youtube songs on my I-phone with earphones.
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. -- Urgutoo, Thu, 10 May 2012, 3:23:49 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)
Jeez, this place is dead! So, here's your first
lesson (James, you there?) in Klingon.
;klsa = take me to your kia.
zxcnb/45 = is this your traditional dress?
Lessons to follow on pronunciation! Don't miss
them.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 09 May 2012, 0:04:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hi Pete, the purpose putting old stuff up was just nostalgia, no intention to stir things up.
I see the Blue Bulls have a new name...relating to their defensive capability..
The Pink Panters.
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Clutchplates -- Jo Pete, Mon, 07 May 2012, 17:51:28 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. I seem to remember that Carl oke pissing me off a bit but can't remember why but I do know that he very stupidly didn't realise that his pisser was being pulled. I am from Boksburg and I certainly don't remember refusing to meet him.
Thing is with Clutchplates they have a complete inability to laugh at themselves. JIMBO(TOT)'s bad mouthing Clutchplates is very tongue in cheek as is my bad mouthing moffies. He must piss himself laughing when he gets a response like this.
I remember that the average Rhodie was very disdainful of Clutchplates. I remember the whole movie house in Salisbury collapsing with laughter when a SA traffic cop opened his mouth and spoke with a thick Afrikaans accent in a documentary. We found the Clutchplates bloody amusing people, even in Zimbabwe.
I had the great misfortune of trying to train "SAP" when they were deployed to Rhodesia. What a shower of shit.
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Postings From The Past....... -- Carl Schmidt, Mon, 07 May 2012, 7:37:38 (41-135-198-191.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.198.191)
Ray, there are a number of people on this site that knock the South Africans and it appears that this small handfull seem to think that when they sit down the sun sets. Yes I am a Rhodesian now living in South Africa, but not only that, I have a very strong South African back ground and what these guys say does not go down well and leaves a very foul taste in my mouth. I once suggested that I meet with the one guy who lives in Boksburg, Jhb as I live in Pretoria and unfortunately my offer was not accepted. I wonder why???
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Postings From The Past....... -- Ray, Sun, 06 May 2012, 5:37:20 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Jimbo, why on earth use these pages for bad mouthing South Africans, when you know plenty of Rhodesians have made South Africa their home and suport South Africa, especially when there are Rhodesian in the site, You seemed to be under the imoression that all Rhodesians should support Australia. Save your anti South African Cricket remarks for the cricket pages We could spend hours debating the intelligence and moral of Australian cricketers as well, but this is not the forum. AS referring to Hansie as the Rock Spider, (God bless his Soul -Ray) I wonder if you are trying to alienate all Rhodies of Afrikaans descent. You are terribly misguided into thinking that your value system is applicable to all Rhodesians. Take your prejudices and go peddle them elsewhere.
Posted on the BT on Monday May 17, 1999,by Francois Du Toit.
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. -- Ray, Sun, 06 May 2012, 5:05:01 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Correction, Piet Hein captured the Spanish Silver Fleet, we use to sing a song about it at school.
Piet Hein, sijn namen bin klein, sijn daden binnen groot,
Hij hebt gewonnen, die silveren vloot!
Aaamenn...
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. -- Ray, Sun, 06 May 2012, 4:51:20 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Piet Hein Donner, huh.
What a name!
Piet Hein defeated the Spanish Armada.
And as to the Donner....
well..
Bliksem daai Mozzies!!
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JIMBO(TOT) -- Jo Pete, Fri, 04 May 2012, 16:18:21 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Well JIMBO(TOT), got that off your chest, but I agree with your sentiments 100%. I did enjoy the film on Nat Geo the other night about Bin Laden being taken out. Best thing the Yanks have done since they swung Suddenly Insane.
But JIMBO(TOT) you may have to wind your neck in a bit as the Dutch have banned those boom cafes.
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Muslims -- Jimbo, Fri, 04 May 2012, 7:56:32 (NoHost/203.7.175.48)
Go Dutch
Go the Dutch - but why wait until 2013?
The Netherlands , where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism: The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands .
A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: "The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model, and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.
The letter continues: "A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands ..
The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.
The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner; "It is not the government's job to integrate immigrants." (How bloody true).
The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013. Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realized - maybe too late - that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself.
The future of Australia , the UK and Canada may well be read here. READERS NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest "CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE."
Countries like Holland , Canada , the UK and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable? If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; "STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!"
This gives a whole new meaning to the term; 'Dutch Courage' - Unfortunately Australian, UK and Canadian politicians don't have the ... guts to do the same. There's a whole lot of truth here!!!!
ELECTION 2013 IS COMING. A Nation of Sheep, Breeds a Government of Wolves! I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! Let's Take a Stand!!!
Borders: Closed!
Language: English
Culture: The British Constitution, is the Bill of Rights!
Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!
NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! We the people are coming!!!
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. -- Ray, Tue, 01 May 2012, 4:15:07 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Ja James dis is 'n "Jagse Hings" (Horny Stallion)
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Die Zebra-merrie. -- James, Sun, 29 Apr 2012, 18:35:36 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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Die Zebra-merrie.
'n Zebra-merrie in 'n dieretuin het bietjie oud begin raak, toe stuur hulle haar plaas toe vir haar laaste paar jare.
Die zebra is baie opgewonde en hardloop rond soos 'n mal ding.
Sy kyk rond en sien 'n snaakse bruin dier met spene.
"Wat's jy?" vra sy.
"Ek's 'n koei."
"Wat maak jy?"
"Ek maak melk vir die boer."
"Ek sien. Cool."
Sy check so 'n snaakse klein diertjie en skiet uit soontoe.
"Wat's jy?" vra sy weer.
"Ek's 'n hoender."
"Wat maak jy?"
"Ek produseer eiers vir die boer."
"Ek sien."
Net toe sien die zebra hierdie HOT dier wat feitlik net soos sy lyk, behalwe nou vir die strepe. Sy sny 'n lyn soontoe.
"Haai, ek's 'n zebra. Wat's jy?" vra sy.
"Ek's 'n hings," reken hy.
"Wow", sę die zebra. "Wat maak jy?"
"Trek uit daai pajamas, girl, dan wys ek jou!"
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The Official Funniest Joke in the world and two runner ups. -- Ray, Sat, 28 Apr 2012, 15:45:24 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
The winner of thousands of jokes submitted was:
Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy whips out his phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps, "My friend is dead! What can I do?" The operator says "Calm down. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a gun shot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says "OK, now what?"[3]
The second place finisher and early leader was this joke, submitted by Geoff Anandappa of Blackpool:
Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson were going camping. They pitched their tent under the stars and went to sleep. Sometime in the middle of the night Holmes woke Watson up and said: "Watson, look up at the stars, and tell me what you see." Watson replied: "I see millions and millions of stars." Holmes said: "And what do you deduce from that?" Watson replied: "Well, if there are millions of stars, and if even a few of those have planets, it’s quite likely there are some planets like Earth out there. And if there are a few planets like Earth out there, there might also be life." And Holmes said: "Watson, you idiot, it means that somebody stole our tent."
While this was the top joke in the UK:
A woman gets on a bus with her baby. The bus driver says: "That's the ugliest baby that I've ever seen. Ugh!" The woman goes to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: "The driver just insulted me!" The man says: "You go right up there and tell him off – go ahead, I'll hold your monkey for you."
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I'm awake... -- James., Thu, 26 Apr 2012, 1:13:43 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
Well, I'M awake! I bet that Hank is too - sharp as a tack!
And Ray never sleeps.
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Lets get some life in Here -- po[ewq (:(), Wed, 25 Apr 2012, 22:09:23 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Boy, that sure woke this place up!
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Lets get some life in Here -- Ray, Thu, 19 Apr 2012, 7:30:59 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Woman 1: "Has your guy been circumcised?"
Woman 2: "No. He's a complete dick."
Woman1: "Do you ever talk to your man during sex?"
Woman2: "Only if he phones me."
What's the difference between a smart man and a stupid man?
Nothing. They both think they know everything.
My husband added some spice to our marriage.
He's left home.
Why do women really need men about the house?
Because they still haven't invented a vibrator that can do the dishes, cut the lawn, and paint the house.
How can you tell if a man is lying?
You can see his lips moving.
A woman goes out to buy a gun.
"It's for my husband." she explained to the shop owner.
"But, madam, guns are very personal. They need to be registered to their owner. Why not bring your husband along?" No I cannot, he must not know I'm going to shoot him."
Why don't men get piles?
Because they're perfect a***holes.
Why are married women heavier than single women?
When single women come home they go to see what's in the fridge then go to bed. A married woman comes home, see what's in bed then go to the fridge.
How many men does it take to wallpaper the dining room?
Four if you slice them thinly.
Why are all jokes about women one-liners?
So men can understand them.
What's a man's idea of honesty in a relationship?
Telling you his real name.
Why do men need sports action replays 30 seconds after the event?
Because they've forgotten what happened.
What does it mean when a man is laying in bed calling a woman's name and gasping for breath?
She's hasn't held the pillow down long enough.
Why did God create man first?
Because he needed a draft before creating the perfect specimen of the species.
What do you give a man who has everything?
Answer 1) Penicillin.
What do you call a handcuffed man?
Trustworthy.
Did you hear about the husband who bought a tube of lubricating jelly, saying he was really going to satisfy his wife? She smeared it on the bedroom doorknob so he could not leave early.
Should wives put the photographs of their missing husbands on beer cans?
When is the safest time for sex?
When your boyfriend's away on business.
Why are hurricanes usually named after women?
Because they're wet and wild when they come and they take your car and house when they leave.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 12 Apr 2012, 15:20:14 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Terry-K, who knows what would have happened with the World Cup if Heyneke had got the present job 4 years earlier as he probably should have.
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So what is it -- going to take to remove, Thu, 12 Apr 2012, 2:09:27 (www8.flk1.host-h.net/188.40.0.67)
2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2 from this site.
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The troubling truth about Zimbabwe -- Matthew Parris, Thu, 12 Apr 2012, 1:02:25 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/all/7764243/the-troubling-truth-about-zimbabwe.thtml
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BULLS (IN PINK !!!) -- TerryK, Wed, 11 Apr 2012, 19:18:41 (host81-159-19-115.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.19.115)
Ray - Tukkies Varsity Cup success noted. As the most loyal of Stormers fans I must thank you for releasing Heyneke Meyer and all his merry men to take on the Bokke job. It will not be an easy role for the Bulls to refill.
Hopefully the Bokke will now deliver to their true potential and the management exchanges with the press will be a lot less embarrasing.
Regards to all.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 10 Apr 2012, 22:52:07 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Yeah!
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Rugby -- Jo Pete, Tue, 10 Apr 2012, 17:40:30 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo EBT. Ray about the only rugby cup that's going there in the foreseeable future
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TUKS, OF NIKS !!!! -- Ray, Mon, 09 Apr 2012, 22:52:50 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Would have given an eye tooth, yes still have all 4 of them but not much else, to have been at at my Alma-mater this night, Tuks 29 Maties 21,
THE VARSITY CUP MOVES TO PRETORIA!!
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Sailing -- Jo Pete, Fri, 06 Apr 2012, 15:51:10 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Actually Terry the first time I stepped on a sailing boat was at Gwenora about 1966. Later I started sailing in earnest in Durban. When I returned to Rhodesia I joined the Chrome Sailing club on Gwenora as I was building an adjacent dam,Gwenora. I had a very close association with sailing until my accident in 2009. I had a racing 25'keelboat on Vaal Dam. In Zim I was very involved in sailing,amongst other things being National Junior coach for many years. In the 80's we had a regatta at Gwenora ever Easter and our Nationals at Kyle or Kariba ever Gooks & Spooks.
I am closely following the Volvo Ocean Race but I am a bit disappointed with the number of retirements on this leg.
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VOLVO OCEAN RACE -- TerryK, Fri, 06 Apr 2012, 12:05:32 (host109-145-55-122.range109-145.btcentralplus.com/109.145.55.122)
Yo Jo Pete -
Refer your "lighty" days as Sailor Pete on Ngama Dam. Check nicely the following website covering the Volvo Ocean Race. The address should give you an interactive tracker where you can use the scale and time sliders to follow the yachts all the way from NZ. Super tactics in the last few hours with Telephonica threatening to sail over the top of Puma. Telephonica had been 400Km behind after sheltering for repairs off Cape Horn.
Saw them all in Cape Town last December and went on board Abu Dahbi (retired from this leg)
http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/racetracker/rdc.html
All very MotoGP-ish at the moment.
Safe my Mate
Happy Easter to the Rest of You
TerryK
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Chit Chat between Jimbo and Pete.. -- Ray, Thu, 05 Apr 2012, 4:44:53 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
> 50- something year old white woman arrived at her seat on a crowded flight. The seat was next to a black man. The woman said "I cannot sit here next to this black man." The fight attendant said "Let me see if I can find another seat." After checking, the flight attendant returned and stated "Ma'am, there are no more seats in economy, but I will check with the captain and see if there is something in first class." About 10 minutes went by and the flight attendant returned and stated "The captain has confirmed that there are no more seats in economy, but there is one in first class. So the attendant gestured to the black man and said, "Therefore sir, if you would so kindly retrieve your personal items, we would like to move you to the comfort of first class as the captain wants to respect all of his passengers comforts. "
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BT -- Jay, Wed, 04 Apr 2012, 23:54:16 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
> A blonde was on holiday, driving through Darwin.
> She desperately wanted to take home a pair of genuine crocodile shoes but
> was very reluctant to pay the high prices the local vendors were asking.
> After becoming very frustrated with the "no haggle on prices" attitude of
> one of the shopkeepers, the blonde shouted, "Well then, maybe I'll just go
> out and catch my own crocodile, so I can get a pair of shoes for free".
>
> The shopkeeper said with a sly, knowing smile, "Little lady, just go and
> give it a try"!
>
> The blonde headed out toward the river, determined to catch a crocodile!
>
>
> Later in the day, as the shopkeeper is driving home, he pulls over to the
> side of the bank where he spots the same young woman standing waist deep
> in the murky water, shotgun in hand.
>
>
> Just then, he spots a huge 3 metre croc swimming rapidly toward her. With
> lightning speed, she takes aim, kills the creature and hauls it onto the
> slimy banks of the river. Lying nearby were 3 more of the dead creatures,
> all lying on their backs.
>
>
>
> The shopkeeper stood on the bank, watching in silent amazement.
> The blonde struggled and flipped the Croc onto its back. Rolling her eyes
> heavenward and screaming in great frustration, she shouts out........
>
>
>
> " SH*T, SH*T, SH*T, THIS ONE'S BAREFOOT TOO!"
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. -- Ray, Wed, 04 Apr 2012, 7:56:13 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Velly Goot, Terry K, but I prefer them Great Tits...
I was cheering for the "Blue Bulls"apparently the wrong team..
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Joke -- Jo Pete, Tue, 03 Apr 2012, 17:30:32 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Danie, same oke, I'm telling you!
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joke -- danie, Mon, 02 Apr 2012, 21:08:06 (host-174-45-87-60.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net/174.45.87.60)
The same oke?
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Joke -- Jo Pete, Mon, 02 Apr 2012, 9:43:40 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Oke is on his way to work. Wife phones and tells him the windows are frozen so he tells her pour some hot water. A while later he phones back to find out how she is getting on. No fine ,but the computer is f*&ked.
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SUPER RUGBY -- TerryK, Sun, 01 Apr 2012, 9:56:46 (host86-173-110-189.range86-173.btcentralplus.com/86.173.110.189)
Morning Ray - I see that the Stormers edged it with a late penalty. Great attendance and the new colours looked quite striking if not particularly "Bullesque".
Ongoing brilliant spring here in Kent - so good I cranked up my old BMW bike to join the queues in the petrol tanker driver strike farce. Blue Tits nesting in my "Gentlemens' Retreat".
Regards to all - some good jokes posted,
TerryK
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Rugby -- Doug, Sun, 01 Apr 2012, 2:21:08 (c-50-138-149-227.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/50.138.149.227)
Try this for rugby
http://www.vipbox.tv/
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Ant Brooks -- Jay, Sat, 31 Mar 2012, 17:58:01 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Bob is the resident BT secondhand newsman, if you cannot afford up to date releases.
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rugby -- Ant Brooks, Sat, 31 Mar 2012, 17:06:06 (adsl-108-129-6-11.aby.bellsouth.net/108.129.6.11)
Howzit ekse, Back after a long hiatus.
I see the quality folk(Jo Pete, Ray etc) are still here.
The quick rugby question. Can you recommend any sites(preferably free) to watch rugby? We do not have cable or satellite. My clutch-plate mate is trying to move back to the Former-Racist-Regime so my rugby watching may become limited. He tells me that he will be returning to a boere-volk nirvana completely unaffected by the ANC.
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Sharks -- Sharkie, Sat, 31 Mar 2012, 11:25:08 (NoHost/192.148.117.101)
Yeahhhhh the sharks
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:-) -- Jay, Sat, 31 Mar 2012, 4:37:38 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Skinny little white Irishman goes into an elevator, looks up and sees this
HUGE black guy standing next to him.
The big guy sees the little Irishman staring at him, he looks down and says:
'7 feet tall, 350 pounds, 20 inch penis, 3 pounds of testicles, Turner Brown.'
The little white Irishman faints and falls to the floor.
The big guy kneels down and brings him to, shaking him.. The big guy says,
'What's wrong with you, little fellow?'
In a weak voice the little guy says, 'What EXACTLY did you say to me?'
The big dude says, 'I saw your curious look and I figured I'd just give you
the answers to the questions everyone always asks me................... I'm 7
feet tall, I weigh 350 pounds, I have a 20 inch penis, my testicles weigh 3
pounds each, and my name is Turner Brown.'
The little white Irishman says:
'Turner Brown'?!....Sweet Jesus, I thought you said, "Turn around"!
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Joke -- Jo Pete, Fri, 30 Mar 2012, 16:32:56 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Man on his way to work gets a call from his wife. Sweetie the windows are frozen. What should I do? Pour hot water over them. A few minutes later he phones back to see how she is getting on. I'm fine but the computer is f*&ked
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BT -- Jay, Fri, 30 Mar 2012, 3:48:18 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Remember this story the next time someone who knows nothing and cares less tries to make your life miserable.
A woman was at her hairdresser's getting her hair styled for a trip to Rome with her husband. She mentioned the trip to the hairdresser, who responded:
" Rome ? Why would anyone want to go there? It's crowded and dirty.. You're crazy to go to Rome . So, how are you getting there?"
"We're taking BA," was the reply. "We got a great rate!"
"BA?" exclaimed the hairdresser." That's a terrible airline. Their planes are old, their flight attendants are ugly, and they're always late. So, where are you staying in Rome ?"
"We'll be at this exclusive little place over on Rome 's Tiber River called Teste."
"Don't go any further. I know that place. Everybody thinks its gonna be something special and exclusive, but it's really a dump."
"We're going to go to see the Vatican and maybe get to see the Pope."
"That's rich," laughed the hairdresser. You and a million other people trying to see him. He'll look the size of an ant.
Boy, good luck on this lousy trip of yours. You're going to need it."
A month later, the woman again came in for a hairdo. The hairdresser asked her about her trip to Rome
"It was wonderful," explained the woman, "not only were we on time in one of BA's brand new planes, but it was overbooked, and they bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful, and I had a handsome 28-year-old steward who waited on me hand and foot.
And the hotel was great! They'd just finished a Ă‚ÂŁ5 million remodelling job, and now it's a jewel, the finest hotel in the city. They too, were overbooked, so they apologized and gave us their owner's suite at no extra charge!"
"Well," muttered the hairdresser, "that's all well and good, but I bet you didn't get to see the Pope."
"Actually, we were quite lucky, because as we toured the Vatican, a Swiss Guard tapped me on the shoulder, and explained that the Pope likes to meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step into his private room and wait, the Pope would personally greet me.
Sure enough, five minutes later, the Pope walked through the door and shook my hand! I knelt down and he spoke a few words to me."
"Oh, really! What'd he say ?"
He said: "Who the F**k did your hair?"
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BT -- Jay, Fri, 30 Mar 2012, 3:27:12 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Three Holy Men and a Bear
A Catholic Priest, a Baptist Preacher and a Rabbi all served as Chaplains to the students of Northern Michigan University at Marquette in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan .
They would get together two or three times a week for coffee and to talk shop.
One day, someone made the comment that preaching to people isn't really all that hard, a real challenge would be to preach to a bear.
One thing led to another, and they decided to do an experiment. They would all go out into the woods, find a bear, preach to it, and attempt to convert it to their religion.
Seven days later, they all came together to discuss their experiences.
Father Flannery, who had his arm in a sling, was on crutches, and had various bandages on his body and limbs, went first.
'Well,' he said, 'I went into the woods to find me a bear. And when I found him, I began to read to him from the Catechism.
Well, that bear wanted nothing to do with me and began to slap me around.
So I quickly grabbed my holy water, sprinkled him and, Holy Mary Mother of God, he became as gentle as a lamb. The Bishop is coming out next week to give him first communion and confirmation.'
Reverend Billy Bob spoke next. He was in a wheelchair, had one arm and both legs in casts, and had an IV drip.
In his best fire-and-brimstone oratory, he exclaimed, 'WELL, brothers, you KNOW that we Baptists don't sprinkle! I went out and I FOUND me a bear. And then I began to read to my bear from God's HOLY WORD! But that bear wanted nothing to do with me.
So I took HOLD of him and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, UP another and DOWN another until we came to a creek. So I quickly DUNKED him and BAPTIZED his hairy soul. And just like you said, he became as gentle as a lamb. We spent the rest of the day praising Jesus..Hallelujah!
The Priest and the Reverend both looked down at the Rabbi, who was lying in a hospital bed. He was in a body cast and traction with IVs and monitors running in and out of him. He was in really bad shape.
The Rabbi looked up and said: "Looking back on it, circumcision may not have been the best way to start."
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Joke. -- James., Fri, 30 Mar 2012, 2:58:19 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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A Newfie had two red ears, and so went to the doctor.
The doctor asked the Newfie what happened to the ears?
'Well, I was ironing me shirt and the phone rang . . . and instead of picking up the phone, I accidentally picked up me iron and . . .stuck it to me ear.'
"Oh Dear!" The doctor exclaimed in disbelief. "But . . . that doesn't explain the other red ear. What happened to your other ear?"
'Lord tunderin' Jesus, the son-of-a-bitch called back.'
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Joke -- Jo Pete, Thu, 29 Mar 2012, 17:07:21 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. A blonde takes a snappy little black number to the laundry. As she leaves the shop assisstant says "Come again."
the blonde replies"No toothpaste you nosey bitch."
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. -- ray, Thu, 29 Mar 2012, 15:23:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
1.One lucky season ticketholder will win a free make-over during half time of each match.
2 Fans will no longer be allowed to braai before kick-off, instead fondue stations will be available for snacks.
3 The beer stations will no longer sell beer, but a variety of fruity drinks will be available.
4 The dancing gills will be replaced by a French Poodle Parade.
5 The man of the match will not receive a trophy, but rather a subscription to House and Home magazine.
6 The yellow card area will will not be referred to as the sin bin, but will from now on be known as the temper tantrum tank.
7 The stadium will change from the Bull ring to the Fairy Garden
8 Liefling will still be the unofficial song...
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. -- Ray, Thu, 29 Mar 2012, 6:43:05 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Right now I have the Fashion police on the line,they are emergency beeping Joan Rivers!!
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. -- Ray, Thu, 29 Mar 2012, 0:39:18 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Holy Cow,
somebody made rugby jerseys for the BLUE Bulls, supposedly the color of Jacarandas.
The jerseys turned out pink!
So the Bulletjies will look PRETTY IN PINK on saturday.
Aoooorrghhhh!!
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HANK'LL FIX IT... -- James, Wed, 28 Mar 2012, 19:35:15 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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RAY: Sounds dreadful. I think I will wait for Hank to try
it out first! He's probably capable of ass-essing it.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 27 Mar 2012, 23:21:00 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
James get a Rape-ex remover, a rubber dildo type thing, you stick it in and yank the thing out.
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Got it... -- James, Mon, 26 Mar 2012, 22:42:55 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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Thanks Ray - got it. You are a fund of knowledge! The word (Dopper) makes perfect sense now.
Boy, that Rape gadget sounds deadly! But how are we males supposed to protect ourselves?
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BT -- Jay, Sun, 25 Mar 2012, 11:16:37 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
357 magnum is one of the better anti rape device's.
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. -- R, Sun, 25 Mar 2012, 8:28:34 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
She better remember to remove it before hubby comes home.
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. -- Ray, Sun, 25 Mar 2012, 8:24:45 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
James the Afrikaans word for baptize is doop, its got a difficult vowel sound to explain but you come close if you say do-up. I think it is from this word that the name Dopper is derived, it easier to say than dooper. Doppers I think go for full immersion, not just a wet finger on the forehead like more conventional churches.
Rape-aXe, "Dont Leave Home Without It"
An anti-rape female condom using a different design was invented by Sonnet Ehlers, a South African woman. Ehlers was motivated to create it while working as a blood technician with the South African Blood Transfusion Service, during which time she met many rape victims. Ehler mentioned that she was inspired to create RAPEX (later renamed to Rape-aXe) when a patient who had been raped stated, "If only I had teeth down there,"[3] suggesting the myth of the vagina dentata. Initially called RapeX, the name was changed in 2006 upon discovering that RAPEX is also an EU warning system against dangerous goods on the market.
The Rape-aXe is a latex sheath embedded with shafts of sharp, inward-facing barbs that would be worn by a woman in her vagina like a female condom. If an attacker were to attempt vaginal rape, his penis would enter the latex sheath and be snagged by the barbs, causing the attacker excruciating pain during withdrawal and giving the victim time to escape. The condom would remain attached to the attacker's body when he withdrew and could only be removed surgically,[4] which would alert hospital staff and police. Like most condoms, Rape-aXe also usually prevents pregnancy and the transmission of HIV and sexually transmitted Infections.
Rape-aXe was unveiled on August 31, 2005 in South Africa. Although media coverage at the time implied that mass production was due to begin in April 2007,[5] the device has never been marketed to the public and it remains unclear whether the product will ever be available for purchase.
Criticism
Critics have objected to Ehlers' invention as "vengeful, horrible, and disgusting" and oppose its planned sale in drugstores.[6][7]
It is like we are going back to the days where women were forced to wear chastity belts. It is a terrifying thought that women are being made to adapt to rape by wearing these devices ... Women would have to wear this every minute of their lives on the off-chance that they would be raped.
—Lisa Vetten (Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation, South Africa)
This is a medieval instrument, based on male-hating notions and fundamentally misunderstands the nature of rape and violence against women in this society.
—Charlene Smith[7]
Ehler responded to criticism in the FAQ section of her website: "As with everything in life there will be negative attitudes and I can't be responsible for people who refuse to educate men and feel the device is medieval," and responds by calling the Rape-aXe "a medieval device for a medieval deed."
Other critics fear that use of the device could possibly enrage an attacker and further jeopardize the victim.[8] Ehlers responded: "Sadly, many women have been killed over time, as nobody can guarantee the outcome of any rape. However, the huge plus-factor is that the discomfort and pain is such that the rapist would be disabled temporarily, giving you time to get away and get help."
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Mt pa was 'n Dopper... -- James, Sun, 25 Mar 2012, 3:42:24 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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RAY: Came across a piece of Boeremusiek called 'My pa was 'n Dopper'. I know what a Dopper is, but wondered if you knew how they came to be known as Doppers.
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. -- ray, Fri, 23 Mar 2012, 6:04:48 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
he he
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Ray -- jay (Try This for size), Fri, 23 Mar 2012, 0:34:50 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
WHATEVER HITS THE FAN WILL NOT BE DISTRIBUTED EVENLY.
I have kleptomania, but when it gets really bad, I take something for it.
FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!
Except that one where you're naked in church.
Sometimes too much to drink isn't enough.
Kinky is using a feather.
Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Heaven is Where:
The Police are British,
The Chefs are Italian,
The Mechanics are German,
The Lovers are French and
It's all organized by the Swiss.
Hell is Where:
The Police are German,
The Chefs are British,
The Mechanics are French,
The Lovers are Swiss and
It's all organized by the Italians.
Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!
My short-term memory is not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my short-term memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
Welcome to Utah
Set your watch back 20 years.
A bartender is just a pharmacist
with a limited inventory.
I may be schizophrenic,
but at least I have each other.
I am a Nobody.
Nobody is Perfect.
Therefore I am Perfect.
KENTUCKY:
Five million people,
Fifteen last names.
I'm not your type.
I'm not inflatable.
Dyslexics Have More Nuf.
In Memoriam
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment, it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which almost went unnoticed last week. Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote "The Hokey Pokey" died peacefully at age 93.
The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin. They put his left leg in.
And then the trouble started.
I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Money isn't everything,
but it sure keeps the kids in touch.
Reality is only an illusion
that occurs due to a lack of alcohol.
Red meat is not bad for you
Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.
I am having an out-of-money experience.
Don't sweat the petty things.
Don't pet the sweaty things.
Corduroy pillows are making headlines!
I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 22 Mar 2012, 15:18:44 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Well the Jay maybe this one is more adult? You may have to think about it a while...
Girl 1: Oh I am doomed! That's my husband coming with my lover!
Girl 2: Oh no, the same thing is happening to me.
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Tim Horgan -Kariba & Hunting Lodge -- Tim Horgan, Thu, 22 Mar 2012, 12:29:01 (NoHost/94.116.111.137)
Hi All,
Just catching up with posts here and noted a few comments- thanks Libra for the kind words!
I am based in London but still work outside the UK from time to time.
Would be delighted to meet anyone coming through London. (Next week I will be in Paris (Tues- Thurs).
email:
timhorgan@usa.net
mobile
0786 788 7243
Would love to hear from you.
Kindest regards,
Tim
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Bob -- Jay, Thu, 22 Mar 2012, 1:37:26 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Apologies Bob for having a shot at you this time, when in fact Ray's I.S.P. is tagged for that incredibly weak joke.
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Bob -- Jay, Thu, 22 Mar 2012, 1:29:14 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Very weak joke, bordering on infantile, but have to say it is an improvement on old news and the rest of the crap you blog on.
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. -- ., Wed, 21 Mar 2012, 7:05:47 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
The Hunting Accident. A fellow was hunting when a gust of wind blew the gun over & discharged, shooting him in the genitals. Several hours later, lying in a hospital bed, he was approached by his doctor.
"Well, sir, I have some good news & some bad news. The good news is that you are going to be OK. The damage was local to your groin, there was very little internal damage, & we were able to remove all of the buckshot."
"What's the bad news?" asked the hunter.
"The bad news is that there was some pretty extensive buckshot damage done to your willy which left quite a few holes in it. I'm going to have to refer you to my sister."
"Well, I guess that isn't too bad," the hunter replied. "Is your sister a plastic surgeon?"
"Not exactly," answered the doctor. "She's a flute player in the Boston Symphony Orchestra. She's going to teach you where to put your fingers so you don't piss in your eye."
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Mugarbage -- Jay, Tue, 20 Mar 2012, 1:40:49 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
As long as Bob and troop have Chinese backing, they are as safe as houses.
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WELCOME TO MUGABE RUINS -- BARRY (OF REAL INTEREST TO RHODIES), Mon, 19 Mar 2012, 23:40:28 (d58-106-161-153.sbr800.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.106.161.153)
Loath thou I am to be labled a REPOSTER this should be of interest to real Rhodesians
1) Will Mugabe's party be torn apart by Wikileaks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15446108
2)Audio slideshow: Zimbabwe at 30
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8623385.stm
3 BBC ZIMBABWE REPORT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17437324
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. -- Bob, Mon, 19 Mar 2012, 15:17:30 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Rhinos will be wiped out from South Africa's wildlife parks by 2015 if poaching continues at its current rate, a campaigner fighting to save the beasts has warned.
And corruption among officials is contributing to the ongoing slaughter, said veterinary nurse Karen Trendler.
In a career spanning almost two decades, 50-year-old Trendler has raised 200 baby rhino orphans at a wildlife sanctuary in Pretoria, earning the nickname "Mama Rhino."
She is planning to open a special treatment centre for them, warning that the situation has become critical.
Poachers nabbed 448 rhinos last year, and in the first three months of this year the toll stood at 109 -- in other words, a kill-rate of more than one a day.
While the poachers target the adult rhinos for their horns, baby rhinos often die too, unable to survive alone.
The sharp increase in poaching has raised concerns among experts that the animals could disappear from the wild within the next four years, Trendler said.
"You hate to sound alarmist, you hate to even consider that it could happen. But if the poaching continues at the current rate we could eventually see rhino go extinct.
"There are predictions that by 2015 we could have no rhino."
The problem has been exacerbated by the fact that some people working in wildlife conservation and animal welfare have been implicated in the lucrative poaching industry, Trendler said.
"There are some incredibly good guys in the business who are doing amazing things and who would give their lives for those rhino.
"But unfortunately we do have an element of corruption. There have already been prosecutions and arrests, where government officials are complicit."
The booming market for rhino horn and increasingly sophisticated poaching methods help explain the devastating death-rate, Trendler said.
"There is a growing economy in Asia, so there is more disposable income to pay for Chinese traditional medicine.
"There is easier accessibility, poachers have better technology, so using cell phones and GPS they can move the horn that much quicker through the process.
"On top of that there's the sinister part of it where it's actually being stockpiled against extinction.
"So they just take up as much as they can get and it's held in stockpile for the time when the numbers drop and the value of the horn goes up," Trendler said.
Some private owners are even pushing to have the trade in rhino horns legalised, arguing that prohibition has done nothing to stop poaching, something that Trendler vehemently opposes.
She is busy building a rhino orphanage at a golf and leisure resort near Mokopane in Limpopo, in the north of the country.
Presented as South Africa's first non-commercial and non-tourist rhino orphanage, it will have an intensive care unit with incubators, drips and surveillance cameras.
A small team of carers will look after the baby rhinos, and human contact will be kept to a minimum because the aim is to release them back into the wild.
Once they are strong enough to leave the unit, they will be introduced to their "surrogate parents," a pair of adult rhinos who live in the resort's game park, Trendler said.
"We've had phenomenal success in the past with rhino who are naturally very nurturing or who have a lovely nature who'll take on calves and become a friend or a companion," she said. "Given the characteristics of the two rhino that are here, we believe they are probably going to form bonds with the calves."
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. -- Ray, Mon, 19 Mar 2012, 14:59:45 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Terry is has been noticed,Pretoria and JHB too that extensive landscaping and tree plantings has caused bushveld species that never occured there before to move in, the Grey Lourie or Kwęvoël being the prime example. Believe it or not, its call is also available as a ringtone, as is also the loud and descending trill of the Woodland Kingfsher.
See
graham-wildguides.blogspot.com/2007/08/birdlife-ringtones.html
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TWITCHERS -- TerryK, Sun, 18 Mar 2012, 5:17:48 (NoHost/84.255.156.31)
Jenz, Ray - interesting tweets (pun).
It is my understanding that the southern limit of hadedahs back in the 50/60's was in the Eastern Cape around about Grahamstown. Since then they have "migrated" further south with apparently one big leap associated with a feeding crisis (fire / drought)perhaps in the 70's. A pair were nesting just outside Forries when I was there earlier this year.
Currently building a new sugar refinery on reclaimed land in the north east of Bahrain near Manama. Still a bit of a desert with only a scattering of seagulls, cormorants and the odd dove. However Bahrain lies on one of the eastern migration routes out of Africa and subject to time of year and weather (wind out of Saudi) quite a number of bird species take arest while passing through. Fantastic tracking project featured on migrating Ospreys on BBC Autumn Watch last year.
By the way, as an ex Ikey and Rondebosch / Newlands dweller I am naturally a Stormers man. However have enjoyed the odd success but more numerous disappointments at Loftus !!!
Regards to all,
TerryK
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Hoe gaan dit met die Vos Inn, Hank? -- James., Sun, 18 Mar 2012, 1:05:05 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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Aha! Scripshit is Hank the Wanker; I might have guessed.
Yo Hank, hoe gaan dit met die Vos Inn in Bozeman, Montana?
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. -- Ray, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 18:30:58 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Hiiiii Jenz!
Stormers are getting a little uppity I see lately.
Well the Blue Bulls willput the in their place, just a pity they took a nap when the Blues were playing.
Yes I love those flying ant emergences, I have seen as much as a dozen species of birds coming for the party.
When I was a kid Hadedah's were shot on sight. This has stopped and the Haar Haar's have been able to reclaim their old haunts. Their call is available as a ringtone and makes a good ringtone, by the way, the only problem is when there are lots of real Hadedahs around.
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Bob's -- Domaine, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 11:43:37 (www8.flk1.host-h.net/188.40.0.67)
IP address: 115.70.220.2
Location of this IP address: Sydney in New South Wales
!!Surrey Hills
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Swallows and martins -- Jenz, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 11:10:18 (41-133-106-247.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.106.247)
Hello Ray, and again to TerryK
Thought you might like to know what a treat I had a couple mornings ago... about 30-odd swallows and martins swooping down over a neighbour's lawn, after ? flying ants.The spectacle went on for over half an hour.
TerryK. Amazed to hear about the hadedas in Newlands. They seem now to be a lot more of a common sight than when I first moved to CT about 10 yrs back. We often have a noisy flypast here in Goodwood.
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R60, Terry K and Jo Pete -- Jenz, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 11:04:11 (41-133-106-247.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.106.247)
The R 60 was certainly not a quick bike... but the speed of that mass ride was forcibly kept to around 40kph, and both the bike and I had objections to that!.... I think we must have had half the Sby bike cops out to "control" us all! haha how scared they were that we would rip up the town!
TerryK... it could well have been Steve McQueen... it is hurting my head trying to remember so long ago! LOL
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. -- Ray, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 6:08:31 (NoHost/64.134.65.62)
Scripsi is Hank, James.
Dont you know the rodents are starting to come out of their holes at this time of year?
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Bob's -- site, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 5:26:51 (www8.flk1.host-h.net/188.40.0.67)
2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2
Site is untraceable.
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. -- Ray, Sat, 17 Mar 2012, 5:26:18 (NoHost/64.134.65.62)
Baie goed, James jy is meesal reg. Jou naam is Afrikaans is Jamie uitgespreek Yaa- mi soos in Jamie Uys.
Jy woon nou in die noordelike halfrondte, en ja dis reg hulle kan gaan kak in die mielies. En as jy sulke goed kan se, dan is jy defnitief 'n Ereboer. En se vir hulle jy het nie 'n kort Skotserokkie nodig nie, die een tot jou kniee is voldoende.
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Ja, ek woon NOU in die noorderbreedte,,, -- James, Fri, 16 Mar 2012, 20:05:37 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
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Jay: Ja, ek woon NOU in die noorderbreedte, maar ek is
'n ere-Boer,so gann kaak in die milies!
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James -- Jay, Fri, 16 Mar 2012, 16:14:53 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
James you are not from the Southern Hemisphere, Summarizing you are not 1.9M + and well hung, Hank must laugh at your pathetic jealousy, it is not our problem that they do not manufacture Kilts that short.
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Are you sure that... -- James, Fri, 16 Mar 2012, 3:44:57 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.119.162.111)
Yo Scripsie... Lapdog James hier. Was ist dann los?
What's all the whining about? Are you quite sure you are not related to weasely little Hank the Wanker?
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Ray -- Jay, Fri, 16 Mar 2012, 2:17:58 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Ray in all fairness Bob is no benchmark to gauge anything by, even semi literate computer users are aware if you are seeking information Google it. The point being it is his intention to destroy this site with spam, fact being hardly anybody posts because they have been driven away by a clown with a seriously warped sense of humor to put it politely.
I do not agree posting crap on this site for the sake of filling empty spaces to keep it alive, it is the sort of behavior one can expect from a Mugarbage supporter.
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Misfits -- scripsi, Thu, 15 Mar 2012, 22:50:42 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
This site was abandoned by 99% of its members
because of the misfit, self-aggrandizer so-called
Yahoo Ray, also tagged as Doc Hollywood, and his
adoring lapdog James.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 15 Mar 2012, 15:03:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Jay, in the late 90's we had much worse than Bob on the BT, pages of invective posted regularly by all kinds of misfits.
Compared to that Bob is relatively benign.
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Ray -- Jay, Thu, 15 Mar 2012, 1:55:30 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
It appears the forum administrator has abandoned this site due to lack of interest, cannot say I blame him / her. It would be better to shut this site down, than to let some outsider humiliate Southern Africans on their own site.
Ray I do not share your opinion with regards to letting Bob insult our intelligence for the sake of filling spaces, I would say I am talking on behalf of the overwhelming majority.
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. -- ray, Wed, 14 Mar 2012, 17:42:07 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
OK Jay it is something that has to be tolerated on all open unmoderated sites, some pin brain power hungry moderator would be much worse than Bob.
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Ray -- Jay, Wed, 14 Mar 2012, 0:09:09 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
This site is dead as a result of arse wipe Bob. Who wants to contribute to a spammers forum?
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Secret SAS squadron sent to spy in Africa -- SMH, Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 4:43:51 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
A secret squadron of Australian SAS soldiers has been operating at large in Africa, performing work normally done by spies, in an unannounced and possibly dangerous expansion of Australia's foreign military engagement.
The deployment of the SAS's 4 Squadron - the existence of which has never been publicly confirmed - has put the special forces unit at the outer reaches of Australian and international law.
The Age has confirmed that troopers from the squadron have mounted dozens of secret operations over the past year in African nations including Zimbabwe, Nigeria and Kenya.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/secret-sas-squadron-sent-to-spy-in-africa-20120312-1uwjs.html
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The British Caste Conundrum -- British Untouchables, Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 3:12:52 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Comedian Paul Sinha found out he was from the Brahmin caste only when he asked his parents when he was 12, after a history lesson at school. It hadn't figured in his life at all to that point. His parents had emigrated to the UK from Bengal to further his father's career as a doctor. Paul later became a doctor himself, but gave it up to become a standup.
This is how Paul puts it himself: "I'm British born and grew up in a fairly middle class suburban South London background and frankly 'caste' was something of which I was only vaguely aware. At the outset of making this programme my view, like yours I'd imagine, was that caste is a relatively outdated system of prejudices which may have significance in certain parts of India, but is largely irrelevant in modern Britain.
But that isn't the case. In the course of making this programme I've met British Asians who feel that they are being discriminated against because they are Untouchables, or Dalits, as they refer to themselves."
In this programme Paul meets British Untouchables (so lowly that they are not officially a caste) who claim they are being discriminated against in their daily lives.
He also interviews Hilary Metcalfe whose report into the caste system in the UK for the National Institute of Economic and Social Research found anecdotal evidence of discrimination based on caste.
The NIESR report was commissioned by the government to inform its deliberations over whether or not to make discrimination on the grounds of caste an offence under the Equality Act. As yet they have not made up their minds.
He also meets Hindu and Sikh leaders who feel strongly that caste discrimination can be dealt with as an internal matter within their communities and no legislation is needed.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b013rjbk
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Dr Scott, I presume? -- Lucy Bannerman - Spectator Magazine, Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 2:00:59 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Zambia’s new, white vice president on understanding Mugabe and standing up to China
Lusaka, Zambia
Zambia’s new vice president, Dr Guy Scott, sinks into the back seat of his armoured car. Motorbike outriders clear the traffic ahead of us as we glide through the capital. ‘I am enjoying the toys, I must say.’ He means the helicopter and the two motorcades — one for the city, another for the bush.
There were two remarkable aspects to last October’s election, in which the Patriotic Front party was voted in, ending the former government’s 20-year rule. The first was the peaceful nature of the regime change. The other was the colour of Dr Scott’s skin. It is the first time in independent Africa (Zambia gained its independence in 1964) that a white man has occupied such a high office. Recently George W. Bush passed through on a visit. ‘When they introduced me as vice president, he thought they were kidding.’
more
http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/7699583/dr-scott-i-presume.thtml
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Diamond mining benefits unseen in Zimbabwe -- ABC, Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 1:53:08 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 12/03/2012
Reporter: Ginny Stein
There is concern that money from diamond mining in Zimbabwe is not flowing through to the country's economy.
Transcript
EMMA ALBERICI, PRESENTER: A battle is brewing in Zimbabwe over control of the country's newly-found diamond wealth. Three companies have been licensed to mine and export the diamonds, potentially worth billions of dollars, but the benefits are yet to be seen by the people of Zimbabwe. Even the prime minister claims he doesn't know where the money is going, and that's straining an already fragile power-sharing arrangement.
Africa correspondent Ginny Stein reports.
GINNY STEIN, REPORTER: Once tarnished as blood diamonds, Zimbabwe's gems have been cleared for sale.
OBERT MPOFU, ZIMBABWE MINES MINISTER: They've already started auctioning. I mean, the DMC has sold their diamonds, Engin has sold their diamonds and all the recently certified companies have sold their diamonds.
GINNY STEIN: Mining at Chiadzwa, possibly the world's richest alluvial diamond find, is now operating around the clock.
more/video
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3451701.htm
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. -- Ray, Sun, 11 Mar 2012, 21:19:59 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Well Terry if it were not for Bob this site would be totally dead. I have never birded Bahrain, but its bird list looks very familiar to SA birders, especially eagles, falcons and waterbirds.
But this site may be of interest.
http://www.hawar-islands.com/blog/index.php?cat=218
click on observations.
Ray
Other stuff of interest, we played rugby against the Dead Rabbits yesterday in Apple Valley, our team 118, (8 of those points mine),Rabbits 20.
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WHEREFORE ART THOU RHODIES -- TerryK, Sun, 11 Mar 2012, 9:01:51 (host86-137-147-216.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.147.216)
Good grief - away for a week and all I get upon my return are two "Bobesque" adverts / promotions !!!
Off to Bahrain for a fortnight in disgust. Any birds there Ray ??? Nothing of any consequence flying in the Dolomites other than a spectacular paraglider working the same chunk of lift for several hours.
Regards to the non-advertisers / promoters,
TerryK
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Making Ourselves At Home -- Jeremy Paxman, Thu, 08 Mar 2012, 2:50:40 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Presented by Jeremy Paxman, this five-part series tells the story of the British Empire in a new way, tracing not only the rise and fall of the empire but also the complex effects of the empire on the modern world. This episode looks at how the British created a particular idea of home wherever they conquered and settled; and how many of the millions affected by imperial expansion learned to see Britain as their home.
Empire S1 Ep2 - Making Ourselves At Home
Aired - 7 March 2012 Expires in 7 Days
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/2206850499/Empire-S1-Ep2-Making-Ourselves-At-Home
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UK Lottery -- ukl, Sun, 04 Mar 2012, 3:59:00 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
A young couple, due to be married in September, is celebrating after banking a EuroMillions jackpot of Ł45,160,170.50 in February.
Cassey Carrington and Matt Topham, both 22, from Stapleford in Nottingham, won the amazing prize playing online. Cassey had only set up her Account the Friday before her big win, as she was feeling lucky.
Cassey explained, "I did have a feeling I was going to win. The store where I work had won an incentive for delivering excellent sales. We had been presented with Ł10,000 which was shared between staff. After that I just felt like it was my lucky day and decided to get a EuroMillions ticket. "I got home and set up an Account online."
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/goodcausesandwinners/winnersgallery.ftl
People can play the UK lottery online, but you do need a UK address and bank account.
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk
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. -- ray, Thu, 01 Mar 2012, 17:11:00 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Terry, you brought pleasant memories of my Alaska trip last year, me sitting on a rock on top of a mountain and watching a ptarmigan and her 3 chicks pecking literally feet away from me. I had an Alaskan ptarmigan full house all 3 species of ptarmigans, Rock, Willow and White tailed ptarmigans.
The ptarmigan you saw is called the Rock ptarmigan in Alaska.
PS previous posting, reconcile!!
or mebbe I created a new word.. reconsole...that's when you put a new console in your car.
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Clare -- Roger, Thu, 01 Mar 2012, 10:21:08 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)
Clare, are you perchance related to Balding Bob?,
I thought I saw a family resemblance.
I do enjoy some of his postings.
Sadly another has passed on due to thuggery, will they ever learn which side buttered their bread, I think not.
So very tragic.
A wise man once said to me, "If we give them the vote, tribalism wins, if we don't, we lose".
Hobson's choice.
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Tarzan: Lord of the Jungle -- BBC Radio 4, Wed, 29 Feb 2012, 23:39:11 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
A hundred years ago Edgar Rice Burroughs created the character of Tarzan who quickly became a global sensation - when the books were first adapted for the big screen in 1918, the resulting film was one of the first ever to take over a million dollars at the box office. Way ahead of his time, Burroughs ignored the advice of business 'experts' who told him not to roll out the character across different formats. By doing so, he was one of the true pioneers of the multi-media franchises that have since become the norm.
Tarzan himself has been as troubling as he has been popular - the different characterisations that have appeared in the hundreds of books, films, radio shows, comic books, cartoons etc., make it very hard to pinpoint one single, authentic character. Some critics have derided him for his affirmation of white, colonial assumptions, while others have championed his eco-warrior credentials. One thing is for sure - with a range of new books and films appearing, the character of Tarzan has lost little of his original appeal. John Waite talks with, among others, James Sullos of ERB Inc., Desmond Morris to find out about the plausibility of the notion of a baby being raised by apes, and cultural historian Jeffrey Richards.
Listen (28 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cjm50
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BIRDS -- TerryK, Wed, 29 Feb 2012, 18:43:11 (host86-137-148-169.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.148.169)
Thanks Ray - I knew you would come up with the goods.
Back in Kent at the moment - nice and sunny today. Making do with Blackbirds, Magpies and Wood Pigeon. Skiing next week in the Dolomites - my only ever sighting of Ptarmigan near the top of the mountain there the year before last.
Regards,
TerryK
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Book And Movie Reviews -- Ray, Wed, 29 Feb 2012, 18:03:21 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
TerryK
the movie "The Big Year" is based on the real life book:
The Big Year: A Tale of Man, Nature, and Fowl Obsession by Mark Obmascik.
The three characters portrayed in the movie are based upon the ecapades of three real life people but the names were changed. Owen Wilson portrayed the real life person of Sandy Komito. Minor changes occurred in the scripting, Sandy dipped out on a "Long Eared Owl" not on a Snowy Owl as portrayed in the movie. (If he had called me in 1998 I could have showed him one at Descanso Gardens).
The character portrayed by Jack Black was a real life programmer, unfortunately the girl dumped him as opposed to in the movie. The woman boat owner from hell is still doing trips to this day, her real name is Debbie Shearwater she operates out of Monterey Bay. Her boat is quite small and could be called the Puke-Ketch And yes the real executive portrayed by Steve Martin did reconsole with his wife, and yes the person portrayed by Jack Black did reconsole with his ailing Father, and his dying father did find the Great Grey Owl for him.
I still regard the Book "Birding Guide To The Birds Of East Africa" superior to the Book A Big Year, because the birders competed for a prize, the hand of a women, and of course one of the birders was under AK 47 gunfire from Somali kidnappers, much greater drama.
Only problem the woman did not know that she was first prize, but she had her way anyway, she followed her heart.
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BIRDS -- TerryK, Wed, 29 Feb 2012, 11:19:57 (host86-137-148-169.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.148.169)
O Ray, Ray !!! wherefore art thou Ray ???
Watched "The Big Year" on the flight back to Heathrow. Limited blurb on the plane indicated that it was based upon a true story. I seem to recall that you posted some background to it about the time I posted about the "Guide to the Birds of East Africa" novel.
Hadedas patrolling the minor intersections in Newlands have become reluctant to get out of the way of the cars.
Pedestrians stand no chance !!!
Regards to all,
TerryK
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War Games -- Clare Balding, Tue, 28 Feb 2012, 1:09:52 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Week five of the series that explores how sport made Britain and Britain made sport. In this episode Clare Balding visits The Imperial War Museum to discover the vital role sport has played, both on the battle field and on the home front, during both World Wars. She starts in the Hall of Remembrance in front of John Singer Sargent's, Gassed, an oil painting more than twenty feet long, depicting the aftermath of a mustard gas attack during the First World War, with a line of wounded soldiers walking towards a dressing station. Yet in the background there are groups of men playing football. As Prof. Tony Collins of De Montfort University explains, sport became an essential part of army life, alleviating the boredom and the terror, by 1916 there was a football ground in each brigade area of the Western Front.
During the Second World War, Prof Tony Mason explains the importance of sport to those captured and detained in German prisoner of war camps, with football, in particular being used as a way of providing entertainment for troops overseas.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cjm4t
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Robb -- Jay, Mon, 27 Feb 2012, 15:21:14 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Condolences to another fallen Rhodie, your family and friends, all the best and God Bless.
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the passing of PJH -- ned, Sun, 26 Feb 2012, 23:58:09 (72-12-23-138.static.networktel.net/72.12.23.138)
...Condolences....
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The Passing of Patrick James Hannon -- Robb WJ Ellis, Sun, 26 Feb 2012, 8:38:43 (cpc1-derb6-0-0-cust957.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com/86.0.235.190)
It is with a very sad and heavy heart that I inform you of the passing of my brother-in-law, Patrick James Hannon. Pat was a Captain (Territorial) in Pay Corps during the Rhodesian war. Pat married my sister in late 1986.
Three years ago Pat and my sister were attacked in their house in Harare and Pat sustained a depressed skull fracture when a burglary went horribly wrong. Not very long thereafter, they joined us in Derby, UK, but Pat's health was never right.
On Wednesday, Pat had a heart attack and was hospitalised. Yesterday we thought that he was through the worst of it, but this morning at 0940hours, (25 February 2012) Pat passed away, with his wife and two daughters present.
I first met Pat when I was about 8 or 9 and it was me who introduced him to my sister.
I am incredibly sad at the loss of an exceptionally quiet and unassuming man. And my heart breaks for my sister and her girls.
The world is a poorer place for his passing.
PJ Hannon: 01/03/1947 - 25/02/2012...
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Paddy -- Jay, Sun, 26 Feb 2012, 4:19:38 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Too true! science proves what we already knew, but kaffir boeties choose not to agree, which also proves we have a huge population of white munts amongst us.
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Our Neanderthal Heritage -- Paddy, Fri, 24 Feb 2012, 18:49:02 (wbs-196-2-126-172.wbs.co.za/196.2.126.172)
Why are whites, blacks, Melanesians and Orientals different?
Its known that humans migrated out of Africa.
They encountered Neanderthals in the middle east and hybridization took place. Neanderthals had stocky stature, were better adapted to cold climates, had pale skins, were hairy and as intelligent and Homo sapiens.
Eventually Homo sapiens moved into Europe and the genes they had inherited from early interactions with Neaderthals which were beneficial to survival became pronounced such as white skin, amongst other things. The Orientals moved East and further hybridization occurred with another humanoid species living in Siberia, inheriting other characteristics. Which is why we're different. What do you think? There has been a well orchestrated attempt to cover this up over the last decades, but finally DNA analysis has revealed the truth. We are not the same....
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Anyone but England -- BBC, Thu, 23 Feb 2012, 2:27:15 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Clare Balding continues her investigation into how sport shaped Britain and Britain shaped sport. Today we join her at Hampden Park in Glasgow as she explores the part football has played in shaping Scotland's national identity and its changing relationship with England. Clare talks to Huw McIlvaney about why supporting, 'anyone but England' is still part of the Scottish mindset.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c7pqj
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. -- ., Tue, 21 Feb 2012, 19:57:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
I prefer to be there than read about it, and as long as I am not being charged by a hippo looking to ram teeth through the aluminum skin of my skiff on the Okavango River, I love Northwest Bots.
Ray Ray
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Botswana -- Jo Pete, Tue, 21 Feb 2012, 14:25:29 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. TerryK I will look for that book on Amazon and download to my Kindle.
I think that writings on The Botswana Bulldog would be far more fascinating than one on pies.
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20 CHICKENS -- TerryK, Tue, 21 Feb 2012, 6:58:40 (NoHost/196.215.175.234)
Yo Jo Pete.
Currently reading "Twenty Chickens for a Saddle" by Robyn Scott and set in Botswana. Interesting reading but no real plot.
Any comments from your days as "Bots Pete". I keep expecting her to get to a bit with the pies in it !!!
Safe my Mate
TerryK
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17 Equations that Changed the World -- Start the Week, Tue, 21 Feb 2012, 2:21:15 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
On Start the Week Tom Sutcliffe looks at how science has shaped our civilisation. Mark Miodownik explores how the discovery of new materials has transformed the way we live, from the Stone Age to the Silicon Age. While the mathematician Ian Stewart argues that calculations made centuries ago have led to untold innovations, and that mathematical equations really have changed our world. The natural world is the starting point for the sculptor, Peter Randall-Page and his abstract geometric form carved in stone. And Jane Rapley from Central Saint Martins College of Art and Design considers how far fashion designers are influenced by modern materials and techniques, and inspired by the natural world.
Listen now (43 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006r9xr
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A Report, Courtesy Jimbo... -- Ray, Mon, 20 Feb 2012, 23:12:54 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
A new school inspector is assigned to the grade 4 class in one of the local schools in Soweto .
He is introduced to the class by the teacher, Miss Wesizwe.
She says to the class: "Let's show the inspector just how clever you are by allowing him to ask you a question."
The inspector decides to ask a biblical question.
He asks: "Class, who broke down the walls of Jericho?"
For a full minute there is absolute silence. The children all just stare at him blankly.
Eventually Sipho raises his hand. The Inspector points excitedly to him.
Sipho stands up and says: "Sir, I don't know who broke down the walls of Jericho , but I had nothing to do with it."
The inspector looks at the teacher for an explanation. She says: Well, I've known Sipho since the beginning of the year and I believe that if he says that he didn't do it, then he didn't do it."
The inspector is shocked at the level of ignorance and storms down to the principal's office and tells him what happened.
The principal replies: "Look I don't know the boy, but I socialise every now and then with his teacher and I believe her. If she feels that the boy was not involved, then he must be innocent."
The inspector can't believe what he is hearing. He grabs the phone on the principal's desk and dials the Minister of Education. He relates the entire episode and asks her what she thinks of the education standard in the school.
The Minister sighs heavily and replies: "Eish wena. You know I am very busy. I don't know the boy, the teacher or the principal. Just get three quotes and I will have the wall fixed by my brother."
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. -- ray, Mon, 20 Feb 2012, 15:25:21 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Colleen,
4 Daniel Gouws at
www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Daniel/Gouws
Some Daniels Gouws also at
www.facebook.com/daniel.gouws
There's:
Daniel Gouws - Fine Art
fineartamerica.com/profiles/daniel-gouws.html
Since I have been in Texas for nearly 20 years, I now consider myself a Texan, but I was born and raised in South Africa and I moved to the US in 1990.
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Looking for Daniel Gouws (ex Sinoia or Marondellas in late 1960s) -- Colleen, Mon, 20 Feb 2012, 15:13:33 (41-133-117-72.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.117.72)
Looking to find Daniel Gouws - either lived in Sinoia or Marondellas in the mid to late 1960s
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Global Business: Africa's Future? -- Bob, Sun, 19 Feb 2012, 2:56:57 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
In this programme you can hear from the author Duncan Clarke.
His new book, Africa's Future: Darkness to Destiny: How the past is shaping Africa's economic evolution, aims to show how we can only understand Africa's destiny by uncovering its history.
And talking to Peter Day he puts forward his unique reformulation of Africa's economic past, present and future, and reveals the continent's changing political landscape and likely business trajectories.
Media : Listen now (28 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p002vsyy
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Munts -- Jay, Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 4:40:03 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
After stopping for drinks at an illegal bar, a Zimbabwean bus driver found that the 20 mental patients he was supposed to be transporting from Harare to Bulawayo had escaped. Not wanting to admit his incompetence, the driver went to a nearby bus stop and offered everyone waiting there a free ride. He then delivered the passengers to the mental hospital, telling the staff that the patients were very excitable and prone to bizarre fantasies.. The deception wasn't discovered for 3 days.
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Sport and the British -- bob, Wed, 15 Feb 2012, 2:17:46 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Rugby's Great Split
Available since yesterday.
11/30. Clare explores how rugby became a symbol of class division when it split in two.
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Listen now (15 minutes)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bf42n
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RAY'S -- Jo Pete, Tue, 14 Feb 2012, 16:43:36 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Terry my mother still goes strong at 85. She lives in a retirement home at Tokai. You probably worked on John Love's 4cyl 2lt Climax?. You will remember the modified Afa motors that Ray built that were fitted to Doug Serrurier's LDS cars that raced in SA's single seat formula in the early 60's.
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terryK -- Jo Pete, Tue, 14 Feb 2012, 16:01:01 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. TerryK I had forgotten that Ophie worked at Ray's. As I'm sure you know he subsequently opened a very sucessful shop in Salisbury. Also a bike racer of note, Manx Norton?Maybe a 2Lt 4 cylinder Climax? You will remember the modified 1.5 Lt Alfa motors that Ray built for the single seater SA formula. As I remember they were fitted mainly to Doug Serrurier's LDS cars. Sam Tingle and Dave Charlton cut their f1 teeth on these.
Yes that Cortina is well remembered tearing between the two circles past the Fire Station whilst I was sneaking a smoke in the bush on the way to school.
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RAY'S ENGINEERING -- TerryK, Sun, 12 Feb 2012, 7:35:15 (196-209-107-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.209.107.121)
Yo Jo Pete. Yes I remember your Ma et al from your post. I used to work at Ray’s when home on vac from UCT. Got some excellent tuition from Ray and Ophie Howard on crank grinding etc. My favourite bit was getting involved in their various racing activities including working on John Love’s Climax motor. I was also able to indulge myself with further enhancements to my 1640 Cortina with twin sidies and black stripe – I recall that you remember it well!!! It got to be well known while campaigning for UCTMC at Killarney, Paarl Hill Climb etc. It was the love of my life until R8’s took over the scene.
Strangely I had just gone on search with Sid at OCA for Roger Donaldson after meeting a very old mate of his at Loch Rock last night. Great session with Free Falling starring.
Safe my Gwelo Mate.
TerryK
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Ray's Engineering -- Jo Pete, Sat, 11 Feb 2012, 14:29:25 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. TerryK I remember that you worked at Ray's Eng. I wonder if you remember my mother ,Yvonne, who did the books? She also worked next door at Donaldson's. As I've mentioned Ray was a close family friend. My mother worked there only on condition that she totally controlled the finances, as Ray got into a bit of schtook. Ray had to go on bended knees for bucks. They had a very high regard for each other. My mother was known at Ray's as Ma by one and all. Ray often spoke of you. Lynne Rossouw, Ray's fiance, was "adopted" by our family after Ray's death in 1970 and virtually moved into our house. She is now in Grahamstown.
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MORE BIKES -- TerryK, Sat, 11 Feb 2012, 6:53:44 (196-209-20-38.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.209.20.38)
As you have walked the hallowed floors of Ray's Engineering in 5th Street I know that you will probably have all this at your fingertips, but for those who are following without avid interest -
- the CS was the "sporty" version with a bikini fairing
- the RS was fully faired with a smaller screen than the RT and had the highest top speed
- the RT was fully faired with a screen high enough to protect a camel in a cloudburst and was the slowest
Up for some 6 Nations today ??? I am at a golden oldies rock festival on the river between Hermanus and Stanford. Have good TV coverage but will have to compete with other distractions. The 60's + star act are scheduled to play from 10 to midnight but traditionally have to be dragged off stage or deprived of booze at 2 am to get some sleep. A bit like a Spectre's session at the Cecil Hotel if you remember those.
Regards to all
TerryK
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Royal Tour of South Africa, 1947 -- Princess Elizabeth (journey to the throne), Sat, 11 Feb 2012, 3:29:04 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
This film shows King George VI and Queen Elizabeth (later known as the Queen Mother) leaving London with Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret. The Royal Family's arrival in Cape Town marks both the beginning of their journey across South Africa and the first state visit since 1939 and the outbreak of World War II.
BBC Television
FIRST BROADCAST | 02 June 1947
DURATION | 9 minutes 38 seconds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/princesselizabeth/6604.shtml
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Bikes -- Jo Pete, Fri, 10 Feb 2012, 14:33:55 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Jenz with due respect the R60 was not a quick bike. Great tourer but not very quick. At that Trout I had recently returned from a 3 year stay in Durbs. I brought with me a Honda R1100RC. This bike was the ancestor of the Fireblades. It was seriously quick in it's time. Certainly there was nothing in Zim or SA to touch it. I was staying on a damsite south of Gwelo at the time and the Honda had to negotiate 40km of dirt road to get home.
I owned several Hondas in the 60's, 70's and 80's. A 450 twin DOHC, the original 750 dog which was actually slower than the 450, a GS1000 Gold Wing, a CBX, a 900 Bol d'Hor and the 1100. The big dissappointments were the 750 and the CBX.
TerryK in the late 70's several of my mates in Durbs had Beemer R100RS's. Whilst they were relatively sluggish on acceleration they had a fair top end and benchmark handling, at least compared to my Gold Wing.
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Anzac Parade -- 25th April, Fri, 10 Feb 2012, 1:52:25 (www8.flk1.host-h.net/188.40.0.67)
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2012/02/03/leading-the-way-anzac-day-coolum/
Leading the way
3rd February 2012
The Rhodesian Light Infantry will be leading the parade at this year’s Coolum Anzac Day service.
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ON ANY SUNDAY -- TerryK, Thu, 09 Feb 2012, 8:49:28 (196-210-210-222.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.210.210.222)
Jenz - Paul Newman ??? - Steve McQueen I think !!!
Interesting that an R60 was considered quick in those days. I am restoring a R100CS at the moment and find it very pedestrian after "aging down" from VFR's and Fireblades. Great thing however is the availability of parts in the UK at reasonable prices c.f. the plastic bikes.
Regards
TerryK
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Trout Rally 1980 and t bone steak -- Jenz, Thu, 09 Feb 2012, 8:08:10 (41-133-107-195.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.107.195)
Jo Pete... That same Coro Park Rally had an entrance requirement for Sby dwellers. We had to prove we had ridden min 200km immediately before the Rally... soooo we trekked out to the pub at Sinoia caves, had a party and presented the slips at the gate! Haha. Also I seem to remember the mass ride on that occasion being incredibly slow. I was riding a Beemer R60 at the time which didnt appreciate slow speeds much. Dont recall the Mad Martin brick episode, but do recall a screening of "On Any Sunday" starring Paul Newman, with a large sheet hung between trees as the screen.
Roger... hell I hope it was beef! LOL (But biker chicks are tough and I suffered no ill effects!)
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TILLAGE -- TerryK, Thu, 09 Feb 2012, 8:04:21 (196-210-210-222.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.210.210.222)
Yo Jo Pete. Zero / minimun tillage is very topical with my in-laws at the moment - in fact they are on an organised trip to Paraguay and Brazil to get some first hand information. I Googled Brian Oldrieve to try and get some detail but found the sites overly pushy on religion and not much on the methodology.
Safe my Gwelo Mate. Bad news still coming through about the latest farm take-overs affecting old friends.
TerryK
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Sport and the British -- The Corinthian Ideal, Tue, 07 Feb 2012, 23:15:52 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Clare Balding examines the era when footballers were expected to be gentlemen,both on and off the pitch.The Football Association founded in 1863 was set up to ensure the boys that had attended the public schools of England could continue to play the game in adulthood by an agreed set of rules.They embodied the Corinthian spirit, the amateur ideal, one must not be seen to take sport too seriously, or to try too hard, superiority must be gained with apparent effortlessness. Clare looks at the life of C.B. Fry, the ultimate Corinthian - a polymath who could turn his hand to writing, politics, academia, cricket and football. In 1902 he was playing football for Corinthians and cricket for Surrey.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bllxk
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Zero tillage -- Jo Pete, Tue, 07 Feb 2012, 14:07:23 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. The man who introduced zero tillage to Zimbabwe was Brian Oldreive,ex Rhodesian batsman, who managed a farm at Matepatepa. He was acknowledged worldwide as an expert on this type of farming.
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Dare to be different -- Landline - ABC, Tue, 07 Feb 2012, 3:09:45 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Dare to be different
PIP COURTNEY, PRESENTER: There was a time not so very long ago that farmers spent almost as much time ploughing paddocks as growing anything and harvesting it. It was the neat punctuation mark between crops. But when pioneers like Rob Ruwoldt gave cultivation a miss and left the stubble to enrich and stabilise his soil, they were branded ratbags. Well, it seems their time has come and the champion of no till cropping is now the toast of the farming fraternity. He took time out from bringing in another bin buster to tell Prue Adams about that journey from ridicule to respectability.
Play video
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2012/s3423363.htm
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ANTHEMS -- TerryK, Mon, 06 Feb 2012, 8:02:07 (41-132-205-134.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.205.134)
Roger & Bob - I am sure your version is correct. I first heard the "Flame Lily - etc. - bless Rhodesia forever" version in the Pig & Whistle - a drunken UCT student hang-out in Rondebosch.
Coming from Gwelo Mrs Bloom can only be right.
Hey Bob - an unusually useful post there.
On the Breede baby sitting grandchildren while their parents jolled at the "Up the Creek" festival !!!!! No TV so missed all the 6 Nations first round. But 5 inches snow back in Sevenoaks so not all bad.
Regards to all
TerryK
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After the fall: White Zimbabwean farmer finds promise in Kenya -- Jay, Sat, 04 Feb 2012, 8:36:54 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Nothing like 30 year old news.
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After the fall: White Zimbabwean farmer finds promise in Kenya -- Bob, Sat, 04 Feb 2012, 3:25:15 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBGkDdQ_ZMw&feature=related
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Rise O Voices of Rhodesia -- Bob, Sat, 04 Feb 2012, 2:45:24 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Rise O Voices of Rhodesia was adopted as the national anthem of Rhodesia in 1974, during the years of international isolation that followed its Unilateral Declaration of Independence from the United Kingdom in 1965. The tune was that of the "Ode to Joy" from Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 ("The Choral Symphony"), which was also used by the Council of Europe, and subsequently by the European Union. The words, written by Mary Bloom, a South African living in Gwelo (Gweru since 1982), were chosen from a national competition.
Lyrics/Music sample
Rise O Voices of Rhodesia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_O_Voices_of_Rhodesia
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Anthem -- Roger, Fri, 03 Feb 2012, 19:48:34 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Terry, is this the one?
National Anthem of Rhodesia
Rise, O voices of Rhodesia.
God may we thy bounty share
Give us strength to face all danger and,
Where challenge is, to dare.
Guide us, Lord, to wise decision,
ever of thy grace aware.
Oh, let our hearts beat bravely always,
for this land within thy care.
Rise, O voices of Rhodesia,
bringing her your proud acclaim,
Grandly echoing through the mountains,
rolling over far-flung plain.
Roaring in the mighty rivers, joining in
one grand refrain,
Ascending to the sunlit heavens,
telling of her honored name.
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FLAME LILLIES -- TerryK, Wed, 01 Feb 2012, 18:29:36 (196-210-210-141.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.210.210.141)
My second daughter's prospective in-laws have wooed me with a super bunch of flame lillies grown in Fishoek.
I was reminded of the Rhodesian flame lilly anthem based upon edelweiss which we used to sing in the early UDI years - however the words have escaped me. Can anyone remember them ???
Missing some foul winter weather in the UK - tee hee.
Regards to all,
TerryK
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Moving to Australia -- jay, Wed, 01 Feb 2012, 1:37:30 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
With regards to Banks you are better off banking with one of the smaller banks like Bendigo bank, interest on my home loan dropped by 3K a year when I left Commonwealth bank for Bendigo.
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Hawker Hunter -- Roger, Tue, 31 Jan 2012, 6:32:06 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Just a memory for those who remember the Hawker Hunter fighters, sorry about the wind affecting the sound.
Here at Tauranga this weekend they had a massive air show with the Hunter being one of the stars.
We have a Classic Flyers club here that is also supported by some Rhodies.
http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/21314-keeping-hawker-hunter-flying.html
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Moving to Australia? -- Bruce, Tue, 31 Jan 2012, 4:09:28 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Moving to a new country can be stressful as well as exciting. But it doesn’t have to be.
Watch our video to give you tips about moving to Australia, opening a bank account and how we can help you.
http://www.commbank.com.au/personal/international/moving-to-australia/default.aspx
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Address -- . (.), Sun, 29 Jan 2012, 10:28:56 (www8.flk1.host-h.net/188.40.0.67)
A Spies
27 Simpsoncres , Bloemfontein , Free State
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Spies query -- Doug, Sun, 29 Jan 2012, 3:33:48 (ds7709.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk/109.104.87.115)
Justin Rowlatt - you submitted the BBC note on China , than you answered my request for information using Marlene Spies's name , but your same IP address . I don't believe you , sorry.
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Good day from Southern Ontario, Canada! -- Marlene Spies (born Ziehl), Sun, 29 Jan 2012, 0:32:22 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Then - to confuse matters further - my family history stories said that two Ziehl brothers came in around 1820 or thereabouts. I am now drawing from memory as a child; it might not be correct. However, I do know that a William Robert Ziehl, described as "a young man from Natal", was in Rhodesia in the late 1800s. He got into some trouble with the local tribes; I'm awaiting that information to be sent via snailmail from Scotland.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA/2004-11/1101268150
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Bloemfontein area -- Doug, Sat, 28 Jan 2012, 18:48:46 (ds7709.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk/109.104.87.115)
Looking for Arno Spies or Marlene Ziehl Spies from Bloemfontein area .
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China follows British footsteps to African wealth -- Justin Rowlatt, Wed, 25 Jan 2012, 23:34:00 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Tony, the railway official who was looking after us, urged us to get moving too.
"It will not wait for you," he warned.
He hurried down to the very last carriage, and gestured at us to board this battered old compartment.
"You can leave your things safely here," he said.
We did as he said and climbed up the steps, and into another world.
Teak-lined stateroom
The contrast with modern Africa could not have been greater.
We were in a teak-lined stateroom, the windows shaded by slatted blinds.
There was a table with a crisp white tablecloth surrounded by four heavy chairs and, in the ceiling, a big silver fan.
We had stepped back into Edwardian England.
Tony laughed at my astonishment. He had known we would be impressed.
"You should feel at home," he teased.
"This is one of the original British carriages, where the directors of the railway company would travel."
Our grand accommodation was a remnant of what was once one of the great routes of Africa - the Benguela Railway.
It was an engineering triumph, stretching 1,000 miles up from the Angolan coast, right into the southern Congo.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ykxg9
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. -- r, Wed, 25 Jan 2012, 22:28:14 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
website needs lots more photos.
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Riverrun Cottages -- Holiday Cottages on the northern shores of Lough Derg, Tue, 24 Jan 2012, 20:52:12 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Welcome to the Riverrun Cottages situated our our 68 acres farm in the picturesque village of Terryglass on the northern shores of Lough Derg.
We can promise you the perfect setting for that special break. Come for a couples escape or plan a large gathering of family and friends – we will be delighted to assist you with your requests.
http://www.riverrun.ie/the-cottages-page55208.html
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. -- Ray, Tue, 24 Jan 2012, 19:11:15 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Paddy there seemed to be no reference to Stream of Consciousness in the wikipedia article on Huxley, the Wikipedia article paints him as philosophizing under the influence of various psychedelic drugs.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 23 Jan 2012, 15:40:50 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Paddy, I find you very thoughtful, very analytical and very perceptive. My best answer is as follows: your dog,the birds on the lawn, all are very aware of you and will respond intelligently by wagging the tail or fleeing for safety when seeing you. They are living beings in the sense that their awareness is from some source outside of the chemicals that their body is made out of. You cannot create a sparrow from the minerals that its body is made out of. You can breed one from an egg but you cannot create a living one.
Animal's awareness is not the same as humans, the human awareness is on a higher plane or level than that of animals. For example, humans practice religion and are aware of a God, some accept the concept some deny the concept, but nevertheless they are aware of the concept of a God, animals not.
As far as extra-terrestial existence of the soul, consider the following, the driver of a car. A car is totally dependent on a person to drive it and when the driver gets out the car is incapable of functioning. Does that mean when the driver gets out of the car, that the driver ceases to exist??? A person very very far away from a car knows there is a driver in the car when it is moving, and if it is abandoned, the person knows the driver still exists, even though he will only be aware of the driver when he sees the car moving. Likewise the soul uses the body to make its presence felt on earth, but that does that allow us to assume the soul will cease to exist on a non-material plane if it is not using the body anymore?
Boots: did you know Shirley MacClaine's shoes have interchangeable soles?
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Hell -- Jay, Sun, 22 Jan 2012, 2:39:19 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Fact is Africa has never left hell and never will, the Makiwa tried against all odds to develop the munt, a civilized semi intelligent being wasn't to be, failure to get on-board due to ignorance and greed prevented them becoming civilized logical beings. In time they will be very sorry munts when they realize how cruel and ruthless their yellow master is (karma)
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Africa -- Jo Pete, Sat, 21 Jan 2012, 16:02:04 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo EBT. I totally disagree that Africa has gone to hell. It is light years ahead of where it was 150 yrs ago. The problem is that the makiwa has tried,and dismally failed, to apply his standards to such a backward race of people. Fact is that the munt is generally as happy as a pig in shit.
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WHY AFRICA HAS GONE TO HELL -- BARRY (WELL SAID), Fri, 20 Jan 2012, 23:44:35 (d58-106-72-25.sbr800.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.106.72.25)
BT Folks. For those who follow or just lurk on the BT should know I generally dislike reposting especially when its from TV or old news from the papers
This however was sent to me by and old mate from SALISBURY
It is WELL SAID
Subject: A rant against Africa
About the Author
James Jackson is the best selling author of historical thrillers including Blood Rock and Pilgrim. As a postgraduate he specialized in analyzing future trends in international terrorism, was Called to the Bar, and worked for many years as a political-risk consultant. His non-fiction publications include The Counter-terrorist Handbook. He is based in London.
There are no miracles in Africa - A self destructing continent - WHY AFRICA HAS GONE TO HELL
WHY AFRICA HAS GONE TO HELL
White Zimbabweans [he means Rhodesians] used to tell a joke—what is the difference between a tourist and a racist? The answer—about a week.
Few seem to joke any more. Indeed, the last time anyone laughed out there was over the memorable head-line “BANANA CHARGED WITH SODOMY” (relating to the Reverend Canaan Banana and his alleged proclivities). Zimbabwe was just the latest African state to squander its potential, to swap civil society for civil strife and pile high its corpses. Then the wrecking virus moves on and a fresh spasm of violence erupts elsewhere. Congo , Ivory Coast , Sudan , Rwanda , Sierra Leone , even Kenya . Take your pick, for it is the essence of Africa , the recurring A-Z of horror. Therefore, as surely as Nelson Mandela took those steps from captivity to freedom, his own country will doubtless shuffle into chaos and ruin.
Mark my words. One day it will be the turn of South Africa to revert to type, its farms that lie wasted and its towns that are battle zones, its dreams and expectations that lie rotting on the veldt. That is the way of things. Africa rarely surprises, it simply continues to appall.
When interviewed on BBC Radio, the legendary South African jazz musician Hugh Masekela spoke of the 350-year struggle for freedom by blacks in South Africa. The man might play his trumpet like a dream, but he talks arrant nonsense. What he has bought into is a false narrative that rewrites history and plays upon post-colonial liberal angst. The construct is as follows: white, inglorious and bad; black, noble and good; empire, bad; independence, good; the west, bad; the African, good. Forgotten in all this is that while Europeans were settling and spreading from the Cape, the psychopathic Shaka Zulu was employing his Impi to crush everyone—including the Xhosa—in his path, and the Xhosa were themselves busy slaughtering Bushmen and Hottentots. Yet it is the whites who take the rap, for it was they who won the skirmishes along the Fish and Blood Rivers and who eventually gained the prize.
What suffers is the truth, and—of course— Africa. We are so cowed by the moist-eyed mantras of the left and the oath-laden platitudes of Bono and Geldof, we are forced to accept collective responsibility for the bloody mess that is now Africa. It paralyses us while excusing the black continent and its rulers.
Whenever I hear people agitate for the freezing of Third World debt, I want to shout aloud for the freezing of those myriad overseas bank accounts held by black African leaders (President Mobutu of Zaire alone is believed to have squirreled away well over $10 billion). Whenever apartheid is held up as a blueprint for evil, I want to mention Bokassa snacking on human remains, Amin clogging a hydro-electric dam with floating corpses, the President of Equatorial Guinea crucifying victims along the roadway from his airport. Whenever slavery is dredged up, I want to remind everyone the Arabs were there before us, the native Ashanti and others were no slouches at the game, and it remains extant in places like the Ivory Coast. Whenever I hear the Aids pandemic somehow blamed on western indifference, I want to point to the African native practice of dry sex, the hobby-like prevalence of rape and the clumps of despotic black leaders who deny a link between the disease and HIV and who block the provision of anti-retrovirals. And whenever Africans bleat of imperialism and colonialism, I want to campaign for the demolition of every road, college, and hospital we ever built to let them start again. It is time they governed themselves. Yet few play the victim card quite so expertly as black Africans; few are quite so gullible as the white liberal-left.
“On the eve of this millennium, Nelson Mandela and friends lit candles mapping the shape of their continent and declared the Twenty-first Century would belong to Africa. It’s a pity that for every Mandela, there are over a hundred Robert Mugabes.”
So Britain had an empire and Britain did slavery. Boo hoo. Deal with it. Move on. Slavery ended here over two hundred years ago. More recently, there were tens of millions of innocents enslaved or killed in Europe by the twin industrialised evils of Nazism and Stalinism. My own first cousins—twin brothers aged sixteen—died down a Soviet salt mine. I need no lecture on shackles and neck-irons. Most of us are descendents of both oppressors and oppressed; most of us get over it. Mind you, I am tempted by thoughts of compensation from Scandinavia for the wickedness of its Viking raids and its slaving-hub on the Liffe. As for the 1066 invasion of England by William the Bastard…
The white man’s burden is guilt over Africa (the black man’s is sentimentality) , and we are blind for it. We have tipped hundreds of billions of aid-dollars into Africa without first ensuring proper governance. We encourage NGOs and food-parcels and have built a culture of dependency. We shy away from making criticism, tiptoe around the crassness of the African Union and flinch at every anti-western jibe. The result is a free-for-all for every syphilitic black despot and his coterie of family functionaries.
Africa casts a long and toxic shadow across our consciousness. It is patronised and allowed to underperform, so too its distant black diaspora. A black London pupil is excluded from his school, not because he is lazy, stupid or disruptive, but because that school is apparently racist; a black youth is pulled over by the police, not because black males commit over eighty percent of street crime, but because the authorities are somehow corrupted by prejudice. Thus the tale continues. Excuse is everywhere and a sense of responsibility nowhere. You will rarely find either a black national leader in Africa or a black community leader in the west prepared to put up his hands and say it is our problem, our fault. Those who look to Africa for their roots, role-models and inspiration are worshipping false gods. And like all false gods, the feet are of clay, the snouts long and designed for the trough, and the torture-cells generally well-equipped.
I once met the son of a Liberian government minister and asked if he had seen video-footage of his former president Samuel Doe being tortured to death. ‘Of course’, he replied with a smile. ‘Everyone has’. They cut off the ears of Doe and force-fed them to him. His successor, the warlord Charles Taylor, was elected in a landslide result using the campaign slogan “He killed my ma, he killed my pa, but I will vote for him”. Nice people. Liberia was founded and colonised by black Americans to demonstrate what slave stock could achieve. They certainly showed us. Forgive my heretical belief that had a black instead of a white tribe earlier come to dominate South Africa, its opponents would not have been banished to Robben island. They would have been butchered and buried there.
When asked about the problem of Africa, Harold Macmillan suggested building a high wall around the continent and every century or so removing a brick to check on progress. I suspect that over entire millennia, the view would prove bleak and unvarying.
Visiting a state in West Africa a few years ago, I wandered onto a beach and marvelled at the golden sands and at the sunlight catching on the Atlantic surf. It allowed me to forget for a moment the local news that day of soldiers seizing a schoolboy and pitching him head-first into an operating cement-machine. Almost forget. Then I spotted a group of villagers beating a stray dog to death for their sport. A metaphor of sorts for all that is wrong, another link in a word-association chain that goes something like Famine… Drought… Overpopulation… Deforestation… Conflict… Barbarism… Cruelty… Machetes… Child Soldiers… Massacres… Diamonds… Warlords…Tyranny… Corruption… Despair… Disease… Aids… Africa.
Africa remains the heart of darkness. Africa is hell.
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soul -- boot, Fri, 20 Jan 2012, 4:00:08 (c-98-217-226-135.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/98.217.226.135)
My left boot has a soul - OOps, so does my right one.
They must be alive !!
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Ray, The Soul Man -- Paddy, Fri, 20 Jan 2012, 0:44:13 (wbs-196-2-126-172.wbs.co.za/196.2.126.172)
If the soul is the source of consciousness all animals must have a soul. Since they are certainly living, breathing and conscious though without the brain capacity of humans? Very Buddhist or Hindu but interesting. Still no word on how or where the soul exists when out of the body. Does the Soul have memories and can it think without a brain?
What do you think of Aldous Huxley's stream of consciousness ideas?
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. -- Ray, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 15:21:26 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Oom Dawie, this does not change anything that much.
A foetus is not a conscious living being aware of its surroundings. It will only become so when the soul enters at birth. Nevertheless it is a POTENTIAL living being under construction to use an expression, and to destroy it would be a repulsion of a natural process, and the elimination of the chance for a human being to have life. Nevertheless the soul that would have occupied the body will have another opportunity with another mother. So the worst consequence actually would be for the mother, who would rob her old age of the companionship and love and support of children.
I have seen an anti-abortionist bumper sticker saying
"Say Thank you,Your Mom Chose Life!"
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The soul and Life -- Oom Dawie, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 11:24:08 (h186.98.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.91.98.186)
Just a small observation....
If the soul only enters the body in the baby's first breath, then I asume you do not consider a foetus a live person at any stage until after that first breath at birth?
That should stir up some of the anti-abortion advocates and of course is totally contrary to most religous beliefs.
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Justin Rowlatt visited Luanshya -- Bob, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 3:01:04 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
The Chinese Are Coming
Journalist Justin Rowlatt investigates the spread of Chinese influence around the globe. He asks what the world will be like if China overtakes America as the world's economic superpower?
http://www.sbs.com.au/documentary/video/2187739480/The-Chinese-Are-Coming-Ep1
Some may find this interesting. Justin Rowlatt visited Luanshya and showed it's former glory. If video works in your area, it's worth a look. The Luanshya part in in the 30-40 min section.
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The Luanshya community -- Bob, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 2:52:11 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Welcome to the The Luanshya community forums.
http://www.ex-luanshya.com/forums/
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. -- Ray, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 2:35:08 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Paddy I have defined Soul ad nauseum in the posts of the past weeks. The soul is defined as the source of consciousness to the body. When the soul leaves the body consciousness is lost from the material elements of the body and it is no longer a living moving functional being. It is what enters an unconscious fetus at first breath and turns it into a living conscious being.
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The Chinese Are Coming -- Bob, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 2:11:56 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Journalist Justin Rowlatt investigates the spread of Chinese influence around the globe and asks what the world will be like if China overtakes America as the world's economic superpower. In this episode, he embarks on a journey across southern Africa to chart the extraordinary phenomenon of Chinese migration to Africa, and the huge influence of China on the development of the continent. While many view Africa as a land of poverty, to the Chinese it is seen as an almost limitless business opportunity. (From the UK, in English, Mandarin and Portuguese) (Documentary Series) (Part 1 of 2) G CC
http://www.sbs.com.au/schedule/SBSONE/2012-01-18/SBS%20Sydney
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North -- Jay, Thu, 19 Jan 2012, 0:44:03 (CPE-120-146-228-47.static.wa.bigpond.net.au/120.146.228.47)
Does Janet have a brother Peter? as far as I know he lives in Ray's home town of LA.
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Souls no proof needed -- Paddy, Wed, 18 Jan 2012, 19:06:06 (wbs-196-2-126-172.wbs.co.za/196.2.126.172)
I am not asking for proof of the soul since if you had it you'd be world famous, since even team of scientists haven't any proof. No all I want is a workable model.
Its plausible to talk of the 4th dimension where the soul could reside etc and call this the ether. Still how do you propose that the soul lives without a body to reside in. I.e. Life after death. Maybe there's a cosmic supercomputer in the 4th dimension souls go there when we die ready to be punished or rewarded upon judgement, good souls go to a nice supercomputer (heaven) and bad souls to a bad one (hell).
The Bible's very vague when putting together an actual construct on the subject like on many other subjects. We're simply expected to believe in something without having any real idea on what it is we're actually believing in. Please define a soul as logically and as rationally as you can within your belief system. I am not giving any answers just questions. Maybe reincarnation could be explained if a soul was loaded into a new body, i.e. given a second chance.
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Jane North -- Jo Pete, Wed, 18 Jan 2012, 10:30:04 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Yo BT. Janet, judging by your email address you are a debt collecting agency, so I don't think that you will get much joy here. Dammit Janet we are not sellouts.
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Information On family member -- Janet (Need Information), Wed, 18 Jan 2012, 10:06:26 (castle.madagascar.yoafrica.com/196.44.177.245)
Does anyone remember or know a person by the name of Jane North (maiden name) from Harare and she was married to Jackie Uys from Macheke. Please we are trying to track down her or any of her living relatives. Please contact me on the following email address: accounts@sosalarmtech.co.zw Thank you all in advance.
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Ray Needs Proof Matter Exists. -- ., Tue, 17 Jan 2012, 23:35:15 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Ray Ray has been challenged to show proof that soul exists.
With a sigh, Ray Ray points out that scientists have made huge billion dollar supercolliders to try and smash matter to smithereens to figure what it is made out of. Atoms? electrons? Quarks? muons? and what are these made out of? The best answer they can come up with is, that it is energy. What is energy?? Its defined as something that can do work. Well what is doing the work?. Scientists don't really know. They are puzzled and don't know what matter is made out of.
So Ray Ray from now on will refuse to provide any information that souls exist, unless his challengers can show proof that matter exists and explain what it is made out of.
Grrrrr.
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. -- ., Tue, 17 Jan 2012, 21:54:28 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
A Scottish, Army, Lesbian, Kick Boxer??
Oohwow!
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Scottish Tories elected Lesbian kickboxer as leader -- BOB, Tue, 17 Jan 2012, 2:51:24 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Ms Davidson, a kick-boxer and former Territorial Army member, was elected in a closely fought campaign against three other candidates.
Runner-up Murdo Fraser, who was eliminated in the last of three rounds of counting, had pledged to scrap the 'tainted' Tory brand, proposing to set up a new centre-right party for Scotland.
The controversial plan prompted Ms Davidson, a regional MSP for Glasgow, to enter the race and defend the current Scottish Conservative and Unionist party.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057899/Tories-elect-lesbian-kickboxer-32-new-Scottish-leader--MSP-May.html#ixzz1jgEL2c8U
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. -- Ray, Mon, 16 Jan 2012, 18:58:43 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
One more thing, Paddy, the bible teaches that God Breathed the breath of Life into Adam when he created him.
Although the Church has forgotten what this means, it means that the Soul enters a new born baby when it takes its first breath. It then become a conscious living being. Before that it is part of the mothers body, and has no consciousness per se.
If the baby cannot take its first breath or start breathing, the soul does not enter, and it is stillborn, and dead.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 16 Jan 2012, 16:40:24 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Correction, Paddy.
The soul is part of the Universal intelligence, aka Divine mind. Atoms and molecules have no intelligence, intelligence comes from Mind which comes from God.
Neville Lee, you make statements with nothing to support them. Read the wikipedia article on Tesla, and although they suppress mentioning his free energy machines, you will see he invented everything from radio, telephone, AC, to electric motors, transformers to the electrical system that runs your car.
Science tries to disprove the existence of the ether, the NON MATERIAL ground substance from which everything is made, by means of the Michelson Morley experiment which concludes there is no ether. However this is invalid, because it assumes the existence of an ether wind, and assuming it exists, they could not measure it. However their conclusion is invalid because they made a false assumption. If ether is non material, or 4 th dimensional it cannot have co-ordinates and therefore no velocity.
So even if matter is made from a non material ground substance then why cannot soul??????
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Jenz Post -- Jo Pete, Mon, 16 Jan 2012, 11:46:20 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Yo BT. Jenz I was at that Trout at Coro Park campsite. I had great fun baiting the cops. They had 350 Yammies, I had an R1100RC Honda which swept all before it at the time. That was the Trout where Mad Martin got thrown with a brick.
Together with The Three Monkeys the Mazoe Hotel was my favourite hang out in the 70's. It was owned by Wally Walters but I think the drink had got him by 1980. Who remembers the Sunday bashes at Mazoe Hotel where at least one live band was in attendence?
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The spirit -- Neville Lee (Rays theory), Mon, 16 Jan 2012, 5:26:13 (NoHost/115.69.32.49)
Ray Your conspiracy theories would make scientists like Faraday and Telsa turn in their graves. This is ludicrous get real
Realist
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The Disowned Army -- Bob, Mon, 16 Jan 2012, 4:41:38 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
John Waite reports on the campaign to recognise 5,000 Irish soldiers who deserted their own country's army to fight Nazism alongside the British in World War 2. When they returned home their names were placed on "The List" and they were denied jobs and treated as outcasts. Many in Ireland now see their treatment as inhumane and unjustified and there is a campaign underway to have the Irish Government officially erase the stain on their names.
TRANSCRIPT/AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tmlp
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Souls -- Angie, Sat, 14 Jan 2012, 14:54:04 (server217-174-249-169.live-servers.net/217.174.249.169)
No Barry you read it wrong - Ray is trying to answer Paddys question and not asking you anything I think he's mixed you up.
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ANGIE BABY -- BARRY (YOU TALKING TO ME), Sat, 14 Jan 2012, 8:33:38 (d58-106-72-25.sbr800.nsw.optusnet.com.au/58.106.72.25)
Angie I believe Dr Ray is asking me.BARRY
But if you got that wrong too well!!!!!!!
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Souls -- Angie, Sat, 14 Jan 2012, 2:24:46 (ds7705.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk/109.104.87.108)
Paddy - ether you do or ether you dont ! hahaha. What a load of old rubbish he talks , and he's calling you Barry now....
And as if "free energy" actually exists but no-one can use it ? hahaha again , makes you laugh .
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Wow! -- Roger, Fri, 13 Jan 2012, 23:28:28 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Awesome Jenz, are you sure it was beef, Haha.
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T bone for Roger -- Jenz, Fri, 13 Jan 2012, 11:00:33 (41-133-107-203.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.107.203)
Beg to differ on the T bone steak! Over the Trout Rally weekend in 1980 (I think that was the year they held it in Sby due to temp on Eastern border)I took a bunch of SA biker friends to Mazoe Inn. It was a pretty ramshackle place even then, with a huge veranda which had partially subsided and sloped quite alarmingly away towards the view. T bone steak, egg and chips was served on one of those huge rectangular white utility plates. The steak took up the whole plate. Everything else... eggs, chips, coleslaw and other salad bits... was piled on top. The cost? A mere $2.50 a head. Brilliant!
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Big Game, Little GameEpisode 2 -- Bob, Fri, 13 Jan 2012, 4:38:03 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)
Mark Stephen charts a unique swap involving two gamekeepers - one from the Kalahari, the other from the Angus Glens.
Gamekeeper Andy Malcolm is swapping 40,000 acres of heather moorland high in the Angus Glens for a reserve on the edge of the Kalahari in South Africa. The game warden from there will travel to Scotland in a unique swap documented for BBC Radio 4.
The programmes offer the very different perspectives of Scottish gamekeeper Andy Malcolm and his South African counterpart Dylan Smith. Both men track their experiences in the form of audio diaries and in reflections to presenter Mark Stephen who is alongside them in this job exchange. How they deal with issues ranging from land conservation to animal welfare and how far experiences in their own landscapes can translate into ideas for their new ones, is at the heart of the recordings.
AUDIO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00v4nd7
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Yet still no explanation of how a soul survives -- Paddy, Fri, 13 Jan 2012, 4:13:59 (iburst-41-56-46-127.iburst.co.za/41.56.46.127)
Certainly Materialism does not offer much hope, and who doesn't want to believe in the afterlife etc? I am willing to suspend the need for evidence, but want a plausible explanation as to how a soul can survive, communicate, organise thoughts without the body to provide the systems to facilitate this? I'll give the ether thing a go, what is the ether? How does a soul live in the ether? I am not proposing any theories, I want to believe, but all I get are incoherent ramblings, no matter who I ask.
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. -- Ray, Fri, 13 Jan 2012, 0:12:27 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Barry you are following the philosophy of materialism, and it is a theory which has no proof, as a matter of fact it is a false theory. Science is promoting the theory of materialism or if you cannot see it with your physical eye or measure it with a physical instrument it does not exist.
Every single great religion on earth, Buddhism Shintoism Christianity or whatever recognizes a duality of the human, namely body and soul. The soul has NO material component to it.
Science deliberately tries to enforce materialism by cockamanied theories like, take some mud, water, sunlight and wind, and leave it for 4 billion years and all of a sudden a living being will come from this solely by chance.
As a matter of fact science does know about ether or spirit, but produces fake disinformation to prevent you from knowing about it such as the fake Michaelson Morley experiment which requires the faulty assumption of an ether wind. The ether being non material has no wind.
The reason why they are suppressing this knowledge is because people like Michael Faraday and Nicola Tesla could actually create free energy from it, which freaks out the massively powerful oil companies, so they put out false information to keep it hidden. They need to put a meter on your house and they want you money at the gas pump and free energy is intolerable to them.
So I hope you get an inkling why the world is deliberately being steeped in materialism.
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Steak & Chips -- Maggi, Wed, 11 Jan 2012, 20:57:37 (dsl-202-173-135-149.nsw.westnet.com.au/202.173.135.149)
TerryK you will be happy to know that the local club we go to still offers a good selection of steak (T-Bone, Rump, Fillet, Porterhouse), cooked exactly to your liking, rare, medium-rare etc and yes best of all offered with a healthy dose of chips (or mash if you desire), onions, (salad if you want) and a good sauce if you want.
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MAGGI & PUBS -- TerryK, Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 10:31:40 (196-215-121-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.215.121.164)
There are plenty good traditional pubs and gastro pubs in the UK. However my particular issue was about steak. Their portions are much too small (for a growing boy of 60+), they do not have the proper grilling facilities, they do not understand what rare means and they tend to offer a selection of healthy(yugh!!!) vegetables rather than chips, onion rings and salad.
We have an excellent local just down the lane where we live in Kent. However so many pubs are under threat due to draconian drink/drive laws. At least 3 within a 5 mile radius have ceased trading and have been converted to character homes.
Pizza by the way tonight.
Regards
TerryK
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Windsor Hotel -- Roger, Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 0:41:45 (125-238-19-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.19.195)
Re the Windsor Hotel, I had possibly the best ever T-bone steak there, was it at the Colony or Windsor Room? I forget.
It was large, perfectly cooked and came on a sort of wooden plank.
Would the ribs have been at the Park Lane's Kaya Nyama?
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Food -- Maggi, Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 22:44:51 (ppp121-44-207-180.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.207.180)
TerryK - the best food I had in the UK was a pub The Cleave in a little village called Lustleigh. Now that Tony has left however I am not sure what has happened. It did help that the owner was the cook and he could cook up a storm.
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STEAK -- TerryK, Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 17:55:20 (196-215-14-179.dynamic.isadsl.co.za/196.215.14.179)
Ag man you guys have made me hungry with all this restaurant talk !!!
Had to go to the Hussar in Rondebosch last night to get a fix. Enjoyed a rare Hollandse Bifstek while my wife settled for a Madagascar Green Pepper Fillet. All washed down with a nice bottle of Groote Post red followed by their ice cream and chocolate sauce special.
Feeling much better now - just can't get this kind of food or service in the UK.
Entertaining SA 1st innings at Newlands earlier in the week.
Regards to all.
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Restaurants -- Maggi, Sat, 07 Jan 2012, 12:34:35 (ppp121-44-207-180.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.207.180)
Hi Roger / Glen -
Spot on Roger about the good beef. We use to slaughter our own on the farm and it was always tops, now days you would have OHS on your back for doing just that.
Glen, I had my 21st at L'Escargot, it was brilliant.
My mum and dad use to take use for lunch at the Windsor hotel, and there was a Chinese Restaurant we often were taken to as well, not the Bamboo Inn though. There is a restaurant in Sydney, Darling Harbour - The Meat and Wine Co. They serve exceptionally good Boerewors.
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Arseholes flatfish ?? -- Postman Pat (Flat battery), Sat, 07 Jan 2012, 0:06:14 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
Perfickly logical message title when you read it aloud .
But YahooRay knows that the soul is AC/DC electrickle current . And we are all supposed to have memories of strange lands long ago . Well I remember when my car battery went sommer flat many years ago in Naboomspruit which was a very strange land of boeres . So I asked my soul to recharge it and all I heard in response was Arsehole !
Paddy don't give up . You will soon read a post from Ray that will confirm all your suspicions about the Soul Man .
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Clear as mud -- Paddy, Fri, 06 Jan 2012, 5:55:21 (iburst-41-213-75-174.iburst.co.za/41.213.75.174)
Assumption he soul exists and coordinates all activities within the body as we develop and grow a quite acceptable theory. However when the body dies, where does the soul live and on what, how are all functions still carried out? This is where I lose the plot... It seems that using the current biological model of life, the soul will die along with the body. I've read that the soul could live in the 4th dimension, which is completely invisible to us. Even if this dimension exists, the mechanism of existence isn't there, how does a soul survive. (what sustenance would it have and in what vehicle would it be carried?) All very theoretical I know, but it would be nice to have a vaguely plausible hypothesis for this, since the soul is the basis of all religions.
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SOUL -- Angel RayBan, Fri, 06 Jan 2012, 4:14:37 (NoHost/70.48.211.157)
Paddy: Just take a tbsp of Ello Vera (how are you, honey?)
before every dump and all will become clear about the sole/soul. Trust me, YoohooRay will confirm.
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. -- Ray, Fri, 06 Jan 2012, 1:16:23 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)
Paddy the soul can be compared to the electricity that runs the computer. Turn the electrical current off and the computer ceases to store information. Also mind itself does have the ability to store information, everybody has memories of happenings in strange lands and in times of long ago, these are memories of past lifetimes, except only people who are familiar with the concept of past lifetimes realize what these impressions truly are. The rest of us fail to appreciate these "soul memories" for what they are and disregard them.
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