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Removing Rhodes statue 'moral vanity', says Tony Abbott -- Tony, Thu, 24 Dec 2015, 7:05:19 (NoHost/

"The university and its students should prefer improving today's orthodoxies to imposing them on our forebears," Mr Abbott told the Independent newspaper.
"The university should remember that its mission is not to reflect fashion but to seek truth and that means striving to understand before rushing to judge."
Mr Abbott said that while Rhodes himself had not campaigned against racism, many of the scholars who benefited from his legacy had done so.
"We can lament that he failed to oppose unjust features of his society while still celebrating the genius that led to the creation of the Rhodes Scholarships."

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.com/news/35166107">http://www.bbc.com/news/35166107</a>

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. -- Sjinical Ray, Tue, 08 Dec 2015, 19:08:52 (NoHost/

In a sentence in this report namely:
"China receives greater access to African markets and resources in return for its assistance,"

Read it as: "we Chinks will build better roads and facilities so that we can carry away all your oil, diamonds and gold.
However do not dare point out that this is what the Western Colonists did. That would be anti-colonialism, and the Chinese do not even want such things mentioned or somebody might put two and two together. Perish the thought. Oh yes and I forgot, the rhino horns and elephant tusks can be
carried away also.

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China aims to counter western influence in Africa -- Bob, Mon, 07 Dec 2015, 3:47:43 (NoHost/


China aims to counter western influence in Africa
€55bn Chinese investment in the continent, announced at Pretoria summit, will come with definite policy strings attached

about 3 hours ago
Bill Corcoran
in Cape Town


Western hegemony of African economies looks set to be further reduced in the decades ahead following a weekend announcement that China will assist the continent’s future development – to the tune of $60 billion (€55 billion) – through 10 priority programmes.
The unprecedented development partnership was unveiled at the China-Africa summit in Johannesburg by Chinese president Xi Jinping. It was welcomed by his South African counterpart, Jacob Zuma, who said the continent fully supported this higher level of engagement.
“This is a significant amount,” said Zuma at the close of the Forum on China- Africa Cooperation (Focac) summit. “It clearly illustrates China’s commitment to ensure that China’s development takes place in conjunction with the developing countries of the south‚ particularly those in Africa.”

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/china-aims-to-counter-western-influence-in-africa-1.2456440">http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/china-aims-to-counter-western-influence-in-africa-1.2456440</a>

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. -- Ray, Thu, 03 Dec 2015, 14:59:29 (NoHost/

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Zim -- Joe two, Thu, 03 Dec 2015, 9:23:12 (42-227-105-191.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo BT. Just returned from a month in Zim, guests of my daughters and son in law.All work their butts off but have an enviable lifestyle, upmarket 4x4,lent servants, large houses, sailing cruisers on Kariba, plenty the in Mana, etc. Seems to me that if you get off your Arse, life is quite good there, with the added advantage of earning USD. Most of my mates also thrive. Ex wife #3 is able to live quite comfortably by spending half her life as a carer in UK. To be sure some people battle mightily, especially the elderly but a real alternative for the young, and every thing freely available

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. -- Ray, Tue, 01 Dec 2015, 19:10:16 (NoHost/

From Rhodesians Facebook:

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Paddy pulled in, filled his tank and asked for his free sex.
The owner told him to pick a number from 1 to 10 and said that if he guessed correctly, he would get his free sex.
Paddy guessed 8, and the proprietor said, 'You were very close, the lucky number was 7.
Sorry. No sex this time.'
A week later, Paddy, with his friend Mick, pulled in for another fill-up.
Again Paddy asked for his free sex.
The proprietor again gave him the same story, and asked him to guess the correct number.
Paddy guessed 2.
The proprietor said, 'Sorry, it was 3, you were very close but no free sex this time.'
As they were driving away, Mick said to Paddy,
'I think that game is rigged and he doesn't really give away free sex at all.'
Paddy replied, 'No it's genuine enough Mick. My wife won twice last week.'

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. -- Ray, Mon, 30 Nov 2015, 18:25:42 (NoHost/

Dangerous drug pushers and fake Aids claims, what is the BT coming to. However, I have seen worse.

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Number of teenagers dying from AIDS has tripled since 2000 -- Bob, Sat, 28 Nov 2015, 11:29:38 (NoHost/

Currently there are around two million teenagers aged 15 to 19 living with the HIV virus.

Half of these live in only six countries: South Africa, Nigeria, Kenya, India, Mozambique and Tanzania.

Out of these, the infection rate is much higher among young females, accounting for around seven out of every 10 new infections.

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Migrant Video Going Viral Across Europ -- Bob, Sat, 28 Nov 2015, 4:28:36 (NoHost/

After gaining a million and a half views in less than five days, the Open Gates video was taken down by YouTube following a copyright infringement. Although the rights company involved in the claim has been named in allegedly spurious claims in the past, there is no reason to suggest that is the case with this video. This article now links to a video mirror on Dutch website Dumpert.

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. -- ray, Tue, 24 Nov 2015, 15:23:28 (NoHost/

I think he got it, I note the undelivered message came from davicorp@hotmail.com, not the e-mail address I used.

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. -- Raymond, Tue, 24 Nov 2015, 15:14:25 (NoHost/

Thanks Barbara.
Your bridge playin' eyes are keepin sharp...

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Boing -- Barbara, Mon, 23 Nov 2015, 19:30:13 (CPE-58-174-145-105.mjcz1.woo.bigpond.net.au/

Ray, try sendng it to the address he suggested -


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Rugby In Zimbabwe -- Raymond (Schep), Mon, 23 Nov 2015, 18:58:22 (NoHost/

On February 9 the Pretoria Blue Bulls and the Bloem Cheetahs rugby teams will be playing each other in Zimbabwe.
On January 29 the Bulls will go to training camp at Vic Falls.
Part of the fitness training will be to swim up the falls, jump down and repeat 15 times. Anybody who fails to do this will be replaced by Bakkies Botha and Victor Matfield. The ou manne will shwo them how to do this.

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Boing -- Ray, Mon, 23 Nov 2015, 15:49:31 (NoHost/

By the way your e-mail to

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. -- Ray, Mon, 23 Nov 2015, 15:14:11 (NoHost/

oh by the way at UDI,word came out that there was a competition to submit a new anthem. I wrote one and submitted it but never heard from them, apparently they did not like mine,- or anybodies so they choose a Beethoven piece instead, the Ode to Joy from his 9 th. Cannot compete against Ludwig Van, ey.

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. -- Ray, Mon, 23 Nov 2015, 15:06:58 (NoHost/

Both these "laaities" have wikipedia biographies and numerous You tube postings.I notice John Edmond was at Pretoria CBC about the time I was there too, but 10 years older. Did not like that school with teachers dressed in black robes hiding a cane amongst the robes ready to use it if you just looked left or right. Fortunately he never dared to bring a guitar to the playground then we would never have heard about a John Edmond.

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Rhodesian music 60s/70s -- D Kenrick, Sun, 22 Nov 2015, 20:43:25 (NoHost/

Dear All,

I am currently doing some research into music in Rhodesia in the '60s and '70s and wondered if you could help me. I am looking in particular at the songs of Clem Tholet and John Edmond.

I had a few questions relating to these songs:

1. Were they part of a 'Rhodesian music scene' of country/folk artists?

2. How popular would you say these musicians were?

3. Can anyone remember when these songs or albums were released? (As it would be great to see some reviews in The Rhodesia Herald etc.)

Finally, on a slightly related note:

4. How did you feel about the Rhodesian national anthem at the time? Did it feel like a good/suitable anthem?

If you have any thoughts on these topics please email me at david.kenrick@sjc.ox.ac.uk.

Thanks in advance for your help,

David Kenrick

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Rhodesia Calendar -- Barbara (Goss), Thu, 19 Nov 2015, 19:38:43 (CPE-58-174-145-105.mjcz1.woo.bigpond.net.au/

Ant you are not the only one - there is another Rhodesian Calendar 2016 on ebay posted by one Ivan Pavlovitch.

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Rhodesia calendar -- ant brooks, Thu, 19 Nov 2015, 12:27:58 (adsl-108-129-160-55.aby.bellsouth.net/

Check out ebay for a 2016 Rhedesia calendar covered in images from the good old days. My attempt at entrepreneurship!

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Selous Scouts -- Jonathan Pittaway, Sat, 14 Nov 2015, 5:43:57 (41-133-171-110.dsl.mweb.co.za/

Selous Scouts Rhodesia book, 2nd edition is out. 624 pages, 1000 photos. coffee table book. R550. if interested please contact me as its being distributed privately. thank you.

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12 days of Xmas -- johnny b (That time again), Fri, 13 Nov 2015, 23:38:38 (CPE-1-123-154-170.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Yes, time to practice good will. I have four French hens, they love to eat the snails in my garden ! One rooster a crowing wanting six peeled potatoes and an onion.

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. -- Ray, Wed, 11 Nov 2015, 15:04:52 (NoHost/

On the numbah one day of Christmas,
My Tutu gave to me..
One Mynah Bird in one papaya tree...

Ye Olde Hawaiian song...

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Birds -- johnny b (Bounty in NZ), Tue, 10 Nov 2015, 13:30:29 (CPE-1-123-154-170.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Yes I recall a cash reward for a live bird in hand being offered in NZ in the 2000's but I think at the time it was for the Indian Myner bird(sp?). It takes over local bird territory.

The common English House Sparrow was a pest for a while in NZ but they suddenly died in vast numbers in the 90's and apparantly it was spread by virus through their communal sleeping habits. Here in the SA riverlands we have cycle of excess rabbits then the fox population thrives then annihilates all the bunnies and then we have excess foxes which turn on our chooks !

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50 years ago -- johnny b (feels like yesterday !), Tue, 10 Nov 2015, 13:14:24 (CPE-1-123-154-170.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Good on you Tim for coming to the party,there are so many affected but time will take our lives and memories but the history will still be there in 2065.

The biggest thing is the rain still smells like it did when we were kids and the trees (what is left of them) still come into leaf and flower regardless.Thank goodness they are apolitical ! However the Victoria Falls looks like a dry river bed at the moment, maybe a political reflection !!

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RHODESIA INDEPENDENCE AT 50! -- Tim Murphy-St. Louis, Missouri, USA, Mon, 09 Nov 2015, 22:32:39 (NoHost/

To all Rhodesians everywhere I want to wish you a Happy 50th Independence Day! In case you were wondering if people would ever forget about Rhodesia-I don't think so. I was born 13 days before UDI and had never heard of Rhodesia until 1989 when I read a Letter To The Editor in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch how the West had betrayed "Rhodesia". I became fascinated with this brave country to this day and I'm sure this is happening to people right up to 2015. So here's to November 11, 2065.

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. -- Ray, Mon, 09 Nov 2015, 15:59:16 (NoHost/

johnny b, yes it a different bulbul from the red-whiskered bulbul which I have seen in Los Angeles. The interesting thing about the red vented, it was introduced into Auckland NZ and they tried to eradicate it without success on the allegation that it pecks and destroys fruit. The Government is offering $1000 to anyone that can lead to the capture of the bird. The Government is being heavily attacked on this policy, critics claiming that bounty hunters will captively breed the bird and release it and that the policy will have the opposite effect. Bulbuls are the most common garden bird in South Africa and one wonders how anyone grows fruit in South Africa, if the NZ claims are true. It also occurs in Hawaii, part of my prowling grounds, but I do not remember seeing it there.

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Bulbul -- johnny b (Eurika), Fri, 06 Nov 2015, 9:26:48 (CPE-1-123-154-170.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Sorry mate the bird with the red butt is a Red vented Bulbul, a most direct translation ! It does have the same call as the Rhodesian species. In this day and age and it was a human we would be called racists ! Good thing they don't get a complex !

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. -- Ray, Mon, 02 Nov 2015, 21:30:46 (NoHost/

James well then how about this one..(Rapini is a green vegetable, also called broccoli rabe).

Google Translate changed Feira do grelo (Rapini Festival) on the town of Galicia website into Feria Clítoris (Clitoris Festival) leading to some embarrassment when staff at the town hall discovered their error on Thursday.

"Google translate recognized our Galician word grelo as Portuguese and translated into the Spanish clítoris," town hall spokeswoman Monte García, explained to The Local.

"Since 1981, the festival has made the clitoris one of the star products of the local gastronomy," read the blurb on the town’s official website, extolling the region’s gastronomic goods.

"We discovered that Google translates any mention of grelos, on any website, to clitoris," García said.

(James, I am heading to Galicia right now to taste some grelos. Yum.)

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Jimbo... Bulbul... -- James, Thu, 29 Oct 2015, 22:49:51 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/

I'm sure we who know him miss Jimbo terribly. The 'singing' husky would have appealed to him.

I smile every time I see a bird called Bulbul something or other. I can't spell Tagalog, but in that language 'bulbul' is their word for pubic hair! First phrase I was taught in Tagalog was, 'Ang tigre ai mai bulbul' meaning, 'My tiger has pubic hair'. Not perhaps the greatest way to start a conversation with a stranger from the Philippines.

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Jimbo Is Reicarnated.. -- Ray, Tue, 27 Oct 2015, 20:16:48 (NoHost/

Jimbo, God Bless his Soul, use to post lots of videos ridiculing bad behaviour of Muslims. We are proud to have discovered that Jimbo has reincarnated. Here for the first time is the first re-appearance of our dear friend Jimbo. Here is the proof.It is absolutely clear, his hair color is an identical match. See:
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vogp-n1-JPA">https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vogp-n1-JPA</a>

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. -- Ray, Mon, 26 Oct 2015, 15:45:30 (NoHost/

Its a Red-Whiskered Bulbul,it has been introduced to Hawaii and here in Southern California. Its Afrikaans name (which I have just created)is Rooigattoppie.

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Birds -- johnny b (descriptions), Mon, 26 Oct 2015, 11:23:55 (CPE-1-123-128-90.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Ray...Yes it is a well explained description ! The common black eyed bulbul (tiptol/toppie) was a Geelgat in our lingo. I saw a type of bulbul in Fuji which is blood red in place of the yellow, same bird calls too. Wouldn't mind checking it out again, but a holiday must be included !

Ant...I checked that site out, but I haven't a lust for that stuff, work at a winery and distillery and have ample choice from the staff sales there ! You didn't go to GFS or SJK did you ? Used to brew cider from Appletizer in the locker rooms.

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Mahewu recipe -- ant brooks, Sat, 24 Oct 2015, 18:58:08 (adsl-108-129-173-185.aby.bellsouth.net/

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.Birds -- Ray, Thu, 22 Oct 2015, 22:21:52 (NoHost/

johnny b I am glad to see that the African Pied Starling retains its name in Afrikaans as Witgatspreeu. I also see there is a street by the name of Witgatspreeu Street in Centurion, with some very nice estates on it.

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LIBERTY BELL -- Ray, Thu, 22 Oct 2015, 22:13:29 (NoHost/

I think someone hit it with a sledge hammer and it cracked.

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Happy Birthday -- Old friend, Thu, 22 Oct 2015, 21:30:55 (ip72-207-103-106.sd.sd.cox.net/

Happy Birthday, Jimmy Porter, wherever you may be.

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Bird Names and Des and Dawn -- johnny b (Sounds what it ought to be !), Tue, 20 Oct 2015, 13:43:36 (CPE-1-123-128-90.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Thanks Ray.

Ever heard of Des and Dawn Lindberg doing a rendition of Burl Ive's Big Rock Candy Mountain but translated into Afrikaans ? It has a distasteful sounding verse about a vulture and a monitor lizards bit of carrion. Should be able to find it on youtube.

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. -- Ray, Mon, 19 Oct 2015, 15:21:57 (NoHost/

johnny b
The following in the Oxford dictionary says it all:


Late 19th century: from modern Latin Gymnogenys (former genus name), literally 'bare-chinned'.

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Birds -- johnny b (WHO DO WE BELIEVE), Mon, 19 Oct 2015, 11:48:06 (CPE-1-123-128-90.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/

Ray.....I still have a Roberts Birds of South Africa book printed in 1958 (foreward by JC Smuts in 1938) and a Gymnogene is a Banded Harrier Hawk. Where the Gymnogene name was derived from is a mystery because it isn't an Afrikaans word by any means. I have always called it a Gymnogene but maybe some people don't like awkward latin sounding words.

Banded Harrier Hawk is pretty descriptive,but a velcro crested hoofoo gobbler is also descriptive but not a bird!

Have a Pink Gin and Tonic!!

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. -- Ray, Thu, 15 Oct 2015, 18:53:36 (NoHost/

The following questions were in last year's GED (grade 12 equivalent) examination (These are genuine answers).

Q. What is a turbine?
A. Something an Arab or Sheik wears on his head. Once an Arab boy reaches puberty, he removes his diaper and wraps it around his head.

Q. How is dew formed?
A. The sun shines down on the leaves and makes them perspire.

Q. What guarantees may a mortgage company insist on?
A. If you are buying a house, they will insist that you are well endowed.

Q. In a democratic society, how important are elections?
A. Very important. Sex can only happen when a male gets an election.

Q. What are steroids?
A. Things for keeping carpets still on the stairs.
(Shoot yourself now, there is little hope.)

Q. What happens to your body as you age?
A. When you get old, so do your bowels and you get intercontinental.

Q. What happens to a boy when he reaches puberty?
A. He says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery.
(So true)

Q. Name a major disease associated with cigarettes.
A. Premature death.

Q. What is artificial insemination?
A. When the farmer does it to the bull instead of the cow.

Q. How can you delay milk turning sour?
A. Keep it in the cow.
(Simple, but brilliant)

Q. How are the main 20 parts of the body categorized (e.g. The abdomen)?
A. The body is consisted into 3 parts - the brainium, the borax and the abdominal cavity. The brainium contains the brain, the borax contains the heart and lungs and the abdominal cavity contains the five bowels: A,E,I,O,U

Q. What is the fibula?
A. A small lie.

Q. What does 'varicose' mean?
A. Nearby.

Q. What is the most common form of birth control?
A. Most people prevent contraception by wearing a condominium.
(That would work.)

Q. Give the meaning of the term 'Caesarean section.'
A. The caesarean section is a district in Rome.

Q. What is a seizure?
A. A Roman Emperor.
(Julius Seizure, I came, I saw, I had a fit.)

Q. What is a terminal illness?
A. When you are sick at the airport.

Q. What does the word 'benign' mean?
A. Benign is what you will be after you be eight.

Q. Name the four seasons
A. Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar.

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The Rhodesian "Liberty Bell" -- Josiah Brownell, Tue, 13 Oct 2015, 15:59:51 (cpe-74-64-36-32.nyc.res.rr.com/

Hello, Does anyone know the whereabouts, or the fate, of the "Liberty Bell" used to ring in every new year of independence after UDI? I believe it was a gift from American friends of Rhodesia and that it was struck at midnight every November 11th at the Lion's Club charity ball, but I have not heard anything about what happened to it after the end of the rebellion. Any help that anyone could offer me would be greatly appreciated.
Best, Josiah

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. -- Ray, Thu, 08 Oct 2015, 16:34:05 (NoHost/

TerryK, Don't get onto the subjects of birds with Ray, oh yeaah.. even more spectacular I have seen is a Fork-tailed drongo attacking a Gymnogene, it is a small but fearless song bird. However I have news for you. I have known the bird as a Gymnogene for 50 years of my life. However about 10-15 years ago, a drunken Irishman, by name of Ian Sinclair, who is the top seller of bird books in Africa, and has a big whiskey budget, came up with a devilish scheme. And that scheme was change the names of all the birds, making everyone's field guides redundant and compelling everybody to buy new field guides. The net result of it is that the Gymnogene no longer exists and in its place is African Harrier Hawk. What an insult to the gorgeous bird. His name was changed from Jim to Harry, without him knowing. At least the Afrikaans names still remain colorful, namely Kaalwangvalk and Kaalkopkuikendief. (Bareheaded chicken thief). And my favorite bird the Knysna Loerie, is now a freakin' Turaco.
Johnny b, my estimate that any maize brew has 4-6% alcohol at best, maybe even 3%. Nothing earth shaking. Beer sold by the big brewing companies is about 7% alcohol. Beer is a 10,000 year old super food, the yeast makes all kinds of healthy hormones, and the level of alcohol relaxes and lowers the blood pressure, and is lovely to drink in the bar while watching the Bokkies take the USA to the cleaners in the world cup. I would love to see Japan make the quarter finals and it is possible but then Samoa would have to beat Scotland and Japan would have to beat the USA with simple four point victories. Not likely but nothing is impossible. Already Samoa is practicing their Haka, and threatening Scotland with "Remember England!"

Back to beer, it is impossible to have any fermented grain or grape to have a higher alcohol content than about 13% because at this level the yeast cannot grow anymore. So all fermented beverages are healthy and post no threat to the liver. its when you distill the brews to get 40 even up to 75% alcohol and all the healthy stuff is left behind in the residue that alcohol becomes hazardous to your health.

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Africa needs leaders to stem European migrant tide -- Bob, Thu, 08 Oct 2015, 7:01:24 (NoHost/

Because this is not just about the war in Syria. The migration that will fundamentally change Europe in the coming decades is the one that has already started to roll from sub-Saharan Africa. Germany’s anticipated 1.5 million asylum-seekers will be dwarfed by the legions on the move in Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa is set to more than double its population between now and 2050, from 1.1 billion to 2.4 billion. The fertility rate averages 5.2 children, compared with an average 1.6 in Europe. Thanks to improvements in public health, infant mortality is dropping. So too are the rates of HIV/Aids infection. Part of this is down to foreign aid and there is reason to be proud of that.

But aid programs, while paying lip service to the need for good governance, are actually constructed to find ways around crooked bureaucrats. That has to change. The good governance index set up by the Mo Ibrahim Foundation reported strong negative trends this week in a large proportion of the 54 tested African states. The situation is so bad that Zimbabwe, though crippled by a ruthless political class and ruled by the 91-year-old tyrant Robert Mugabe, does not even figure in the 10 worst states. Yes, it is possible (ask the people of South Sudan and Somalia) to be even more miserable than the Zimbabweans.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://theaustralian.com.au/news/world/africa-needs-leaders-to-stem-european-migrant-tide/story-fnb64oi6-1227561024609">http://theaustralian.com.au/news/world/africa-needs-leaders-to-stem-european-migrant-tide/story-fnb64oi6-1227561024609</a>

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Seven day brew -- johnny b (African Beer), Wed, 07 Oct 2015, 0:36:18 (CPE-58-167-192-15.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au/

That's right James, Mahewu in the latter years could be bought as a ready to mix powder which was for drinking on the job at tea break (smoko here!) it was made first thing in the morning and left to "stew" like tea for a few hours. Adding yeast and leaving it for some time I'm sure it would be a powerful drink, but there wasn't a presence of alcohol initially. We could get it from Wightmans or Farmers Co-op. I will look up that recipe Ray.

Our tobacco reapers were from the north:- Malawi and Zambia (Nyasaland and Northern Rhodesia) may very well have brought it down as a recipe with them. I don't think my folks would have allowed me to touch the stuff nor allow pissed workers to hang the mateppees in the barns if it was intoxicating ! Supposed to have health giving protien in it!! That is originally why I thought it may have been an Egyptian recipe.

The 7 day alcoholic beer was made from the local millet and Rupoko grass seed which was a grass we had growing wild in the middle veld, the expended grain husks was the masesse. We used to take half a hessian bag up to the Zambezi river for 10 days of fantastic fishing.

TerryK, I recall once at Kariba where someone just overdid the masesse and the fish were floating on the surface with bloated bellies of from the fermenting stuff

A second ferment stage was done through a crude copper pipe condenser to make Kachasu which was pretty powerful stuff and gave a clear unrefined concoction of ethyl and methyl alcohol. That is another story !!!

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RUGBY FASHION -- TerryK, Tue, 06 Oct 2015, 7:53:59 (105-228-2-148.south.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Ray - latest fashion demands that you include something Japanese in your own national rugby gear. I understand that the World Cup clothing outlets in the UK sold out of their Japanese kit within hours of them winning in Brighton !!!
Back in Cape Town now - coverage here on DSTV is really good. Massive punch up in the oak trees yesterday between a pair of Pied Crows (nesting ???) and a lone Gymnogene. It eventually escaped by flying away low under the trees.

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. -- Raymond (Schep), Mon, 05 Oct 2015, 17:47:44 (NoHost/

Johnny B, TerryK, the tilapia taste the yeast in the water, and they think there is grain, (maize or millet) in the water that is fermenting and they go crazy searching for it and find your bait.
In the USA all foods and beverages require ingredient labeling, so all tonic water sold here in the USA here is has quinine in its ingredient list.
So who should I cheer for Wednesday morning? USA or South Africa? Or both? Or maybe wear a springbok Jersey and have red white and blue face-paint?

Here is the recipe for Maheu, it is basically thin enough to drink maize porridge that has been fermented.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.fisoskitchen.com/maheu-recipe/">http://www.fisoskitchen.com/maheu-recipe/</a>

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LOCAL BEER -- TerryK, Mon, 05 Oct 2015, 8:07:29 (105-228-2-148.south.dsl.telkomsa.net/

James - not the same but we used "masesse" (sp) - the left over millet etc from local brew ups as a ground bait for fishing. It could be tossed out by hand or even better, in a sack, to settle on the bottom near where you were fishing. We usually got good results - perhaps absorption of the residual alcohol made the fish less cautious and easier to hook !!!

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Mahewu? -- James, Sun, 04 Oct 2015, 22:49:02 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/

Is "mahewu" what we called 'kaffir beer' in the Copperbelt
area? When fishing or hunting we'd buy a couple of buckets of the stuff from the locals - it always seemed to be available. It did indeed taste like sour porridge, but I thought it had a very mild alcohol content. I recall that we believed it was excellent if one suffered from peptic ulcer.

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Orangemen on the Equator -- Bob, Sun, 04 Oct 2015, 12:49:56 (NoHost/

BBC RADIO ULSTER - Stories in Sound -Orangemen on the Equator

Founded 220 years ago, the Orange Order is a Protestant organisation which, its members say, stands for civil liberties, fraternity and faith. However in the divided society of Northern Ireland it is rarely out of the news. Many Irish Nationalists and Republicans view it as an anti-Catholic, triumphalist organisation and disputes over some contentious Orange parades have generated headlines around the world.

What is less well known is that in a tropical land three thousand miles away, there are Orange lodges made up of African men and women. Members of the Orange Order in Ghana share the same emblems and follow the same rituals as their brethren in Northern Ireland. While there may not be sectarian conflict in their homeland, the Orangemen on the Equator feel they too are misrepresented and misunderstood.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06fnw7h">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06fnw7h</a>

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Zimbabwe to ban electric water heaters to save power -- Bob, Sun, 04 Oct 2015, 8:18:45 (NoHost/

Zimbabwe is to ban the use of electric water heaters and require all newly built properties to use solar power, as it tries to tackle big power shortages.
Energy officials say existing electric heaters - or geysers - will be phased out over the next five years.
They hope to save up to 400 megawatts of electricity - equivalent to the output of an electrical power plant.
Blackouts have dogged Zimbabwe, despite the fact that 60% of the population have no access to electricity.
This has also hampered investment in what is an already fragile economy, the BBC's Karen Allen reports.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34416210">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34416210</a>

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Quinine -- johnny b (No malaria in the area), Fri, 02 Oct 2015, 14:36:24 (CPE-58-167-192-15.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Schweppes Indian Tonic water does stipulate it has quinine, and while we were in a malaria area (which is low veld areas) I drank the stuff as a good thirst quencher, never took a tablet the whole time. Call-ups we did as it was a chargeable offence not to.

By the way on the topic, Mahewu was the nutritional drink for the tobacco reapers, no alcohol in it. Possibly came from up north hundreds of years ago, tastes a bit like sour porridge.

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. -- Ray, Thu, 01 Oct 2015, 20:40:59 (NoHost/

Terryk we have a delightful little or maybe not so little bar here called the El Dorado Bar and Grill, near the intersection of the 405 and 605 fwy. All world cup games are being shown even if they are at 6:30 AM. Boerewors and eggs are available for breakfast and you can get a couple of biltong bowls to tide you over till lunch time when you can have lamb, chicken or prawn curry, fish and chips, menu is on the net. Beer can be bought by the pitcher I have been known to down 3 of them in a session. But I know beer is super healthy, but here in the USA they consider it to be evil alcoholic liquor. The Egyptians used to take a ceramic pot of it to work everyday it can get hot next to those pyramids. And in the Egyptian museum I saw some beer mugs the Egyptians used. They have round bottoms. Yes! they have round bottoms you cannot put them down. It just goes to show how advanced Egyptian civilization was, head and shoulders above ours, we have much to learn.

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. -- Ray, Thu, 01 Oct 2015, 18:55:21 (NoHost/

Oh yes and because of the relatively low concentration of quinine in tonic water the dose would be 1.2 liters a day. Or 3 400 ml drinks. That should be no problem?

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. -- Your BT Bionutritional Genius., Thu, 01 Oct 2015, 18:34:17 (NoHost/

Johnny B tonic water does contain quinine. Yes it can be used as a source. The only problem is that sugar in the tonic water works against the effects of the quinine somewhat, sugar is inflammatory whereas quinine is anti-inflammatory. The best would be to use diet tonic water but it usually costs about double that of regular tonic water, there is no reason why it should. There is no better cure for malaria than the natural active quinine despite it being disparaged by pharmaceutical manufacturers of the much inferior synthetics.

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Joke. -- James, Wed, 30 Sep 2015, 16:39:01 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/


A woman asked the pharmacist, "Do you sell Viagra?"
"Yes we do," he answered.
She asked, "Does it work?" "Yes it does," he answered.
She said, "Can you get it over the counter?"
"I can, if I take two," he replied.

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Gin -- johnny b (FYI), Wed, 30 Sep 2015, 11:34:12 (CPE-58-167-192-15.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au/

For those who were wondering about the ingredience check out this site <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.blindtigergin.com.au/">http://www.blindtigergin.com.au/</a>

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All in the bottle -- johnny b (variety the spice of life), Mon, 28 Sep 2015, 11:38:04 (CPE-58-167-192-15.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Yes Juniper berries is the base flavour for gin and grapes are not used but the facility for adding the ingredience, expertise and processing it and bottling it is what we have. We make a brandy too and ranges from 5 year old, 20 and 40 year old St. Angnes and it is superior to KWV if that is a standard to go by. With the world market on wine fluctuating we have invested in having more that "one egg in the basket".

We have mosquitoes here and Ross River fever is bad news and I'm trying to persuade the locals that a Pink Gin and tonic keeps the bugs at bay the same way as Quinene did. The only time I ever had Malaria was when we weren't near a pub !! Got to get the tonic for the weekend we're in for our first hot spring weekend for 2015, 37 degrees in the riverland on Sunday. Stay cool !

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. -- Ray, Tue, 22 Sep 2015, 18:34:46 (NoHost/

Yes you are correct James, Jenewer is Juniper and Jenewer is Dutch for Gin.

This supplied by Ken Peachey from Rhodesians Facebook..

Black Bra & Heels
I had lunch with 2 of my unmarried friends. One is engaged, one is a mistress, and I have been married for 20+ years.
We were chatting about our relationships and decided to amaze our men by greeting them at the door wearing a black bra, stiletto heels and a mask over our eyes. We agreed to meet in a few days to exchange notes.
Here's how it all went.........
My engaged friend:
The other night when my boyfriend came over he found me with a black leather bodice, tall stilettos and a mask. He saw me and said, 'You are the woman of my dreams...I love you.' Then we made passionate love all night long.
The mistress:
Me too! The other night I met my lover at his office and I was wearing a raincoat, under it only the black bra, heels and mask over my eyes. When I opened the raincoat he didn't say a word, but he started to tremble and we had wild sex all night.
Then I had to share my story:
When my husband came home I was wearing the black bra, black stockings, stilettos and a mask over my eyes. When he came in the door and saw me he said...
“What’s for dinner, Zorro?"

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Howzit! -- Picanin, Sat, 19 Sep 2015, 23:52:59 (NoHost/

Yislaaaaaiiiik you guys are still online! I recognise some of the names - James, Jenz, Ray, Maggi. Great to see that there is still some life on here! Hope you are all doing well and keeping the flag flying!

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Gin -- Chuck, Sat, 19 Sep 2015, 23:23:19 (NoHost/

I like my gin to be like my women, fast and loose!

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SLOE GIN -- TerryK, Thu, 17 Sep 2015, 9:24:43 (host86-174-168-150.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/

Morning Guys -

I make sloe gin here in Kent. It involves collecting sloe berries (very bitter) from the local hedgerows (season almost over). 3/4 fill a large bottling jar and add a bottle of good quality gin (or vodka) - must cover the berries. I leave them for a year, rotating occasionally and then decant / filter the liquid which is a deep purple at this stage. Traditional recipes specify a considerable amount of sugar but I am type 2 diabetic so make up a strong sugar solution and add the minimum amount teaspoon by teaspoon until it just turns from being bitter.

I do this last stage after taking the bottle out to Cape Town where it is a traditional treat at our Xmas dinner. I used vodka last year which was very popular but have reverted to gin this year.

Safe my Mates

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Gin - a favourite with the Boer War heroes? -- James, Thu, 17 Sep 2015, 3:19:30 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/

I was wondering about that too Ray. But then could it be that gin can be made from all manner of berries? I mean, there is sloe gin which I assume is made from sloe berries.

I recall seeing photos of abandoned Boer trenches ca 1899 and it struck me that, to judge from the empty bottles, the popular drink with these chaps was gin.

Isn't the word 'gin' derived from the Dutch word for 'juniper'?

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. -- Ray, Wed, 16 Sep 2015, 17:58:48 (NoHost/

Hi Johnny B do you make the gin from grapes? And where do you get the juniper berries?

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greetings Jo Pete et al -- johnny b (life goes on), Mon, 14 Sep 2015, 15:30:32 (CPE-58-170-254-112.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au/

Good to see the the old sparks are still hanging in there. Still making wine in the Riverland here.Going to be bottling Blind Tiger Gin this year. Keep well and toast to passing mates.

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. -- Ray, Mon, 24 Aug 2015, 20:12:10 (NoHost/

Obviously these farmers are not paying the Ape enough money.

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More Zim farms up for grabs -- Bob, Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 6:46:54 (NoHost/

The Zimbabwe government took a major step towards eliminating the once-thriving white ­commercial farming sector this week by gazetting 23 of the remaining 300 farms owned by white Zimbabweans for ­expropriation.

The planned seizures in the Matabeleland North and South provinces were announced despite an admission by Robert Mugabe’s ruling Zanu-PF party that it had failed to compensate more than 96% of white farmers already dispossessed since 2000, regardless of a constitutional obligation to do so.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://mg.co.za/article/2015-08-20-more-zim-farms-up-for-grabs">http://mg.co.za/article/2015-08-20-more-zim-farms-up-for-grabs</a>

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RUGBY WORLD CUP -- TerryK (Kirkpatrick), Thu, 20 Aug 2015, 8:45:53 (host81-151-13-113.range81-151.btcentralplus.com/

Some mates coming over to the UK so checked on the availability of tickets.
For the group games only "good" seats (not behind the poles) were available at around £150. Some options were available for 1/4 finals on-wards starting at £250.
I shall be watching on ITV and DSTV !!!
I think the bokke will get motored anyway - Meyer's selections make no sense to anyone south of the Vaal and his coaching is way behind the rest of the big sides. His behavior on TV during games is infantile.
Gwelo Sports Club offered more.
Safe my Mates

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Jo Pete - -- TerryK (Kirkpatrick), Thu, 13 Aug 2015, 12:42:48 (host81-151-13-113.range81-151.btcentralplus.com/

.... and now I have just seen your original message.

Just can't get the right staff here !!!

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Jo Pete -- TerryK, Thu, 13 Aug 2015, 12:40:31 (host81-151-13-113.range81-151.btcentralplus.com/

Jo Pete - ya well no fine but you didn't confirm that your SA cell phone # ends ....176 !!!

Safe and standing by -

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Zim Sailing. -- Jo Pete, Thu, 13 Aug 2015, 10:52:37 (95-226-105-118.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo again EBT. Both daughters sail Lasers but have keelboats on Kariba. Nationals are just a shadow of their former status. This year Lasers were the only class. 14 boats. I missed the mid 70's heyday of Rhodesian sailing when Sunday club sailing on Lake Mac would attract over 100 boats. I sailed 5o5 but in the early 80's we would get 20+ boats in the nationals in our class and maybe 150 boats total. I was also chairman of the annual sailing school 6 times. My best was over 300 entries in the early 80's.
Younger daughter,Megan, came 4th in the ISAF Junior (U19) worlds in Simonstown whilst still a 16 yr old schoolgirl,representing Zim. Zim sent down a team of 4 and I was mgr/coach. When Meg was at Rhodes she was the best female Laser sailor in SA.Her sister Bron, now a 35year old matron & mother,is also a pretty useful sailor.
We were a fanatic sailing family and attended many regattas in Southern Africa and a few ISAF world championships.

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TerryK -- Jo Pete, Thu, 13 Aug 2015, 10:39:18 (95-226-105-118.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo EBT. Yes Terry that number will work. Unchanged for nearly 10 years. Boetie was up here for a short visit after his trip to the States but did not mention your contact.
Interesting bit of news this morning.
Different factions of illegal miners in Odendaalsrus in the Freestate are involved in factional fighting. Both factions hire their weapons from the local police.

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OCA PHOTOS -- TerryK, Thu, 13 Aug 2015, 9:31:20 (host81-151-13-113.range81-151.btcentralplus.com/

Jo Pete - good to see you posting again. You did not say what class your daughters were sailing in. Surprised that Nationals still take place in modern Zim. I recently sold my Laser and have been thinking about R/C yachting - age shows !!!

Keen to see the OCA photos but reluctant to advertise my email address here. I have an old cell number for you ending in ....176. Is that till in use so I can SMS my email address.

I did the Edenvale OCA reunion last year as part of a short trip from CPT. Spoke to your brother beforehand but he was off to the States so we did not meet up.

Summer is starting to slip away here in Pomerania so anticipate a return to CPT at the end of September. It will be interesting to see how the England / SA test series goes following the whipping of the Aussies in the Ashes.

Regards to all,

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MH 370 -- Jo Pete, Wed, 12 Aug 2015, 13:00:34 (95-226-105-118.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo BT. I assume that this is Ray talking? Lubitz cannot be explained other than that he was a complete fruit cake.
The reason that MH370 was headed into the South Indian Ocean wasa) it is very isolated b) The ocean there is very deep.
It was headed towards St Paul's Island,the most isolated piece of land on earth.
I see no connection with Isis. The captain was just a Muslim,unbalanced,didn't give a shit for human life.
I do not attackh any credence to this conspiracy shit.

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. -- ., Tue, 11 Aug 2015, 19:27:47 (NoHost/

Yo Jo, I am so glad to see you are surviving under the difficult circumstances. Congrats on your daughters. The facts were determined by using radisthesia at which I am proficient, I plot the course on a map, you might look up the technique on google. In the 60s and 70s I gave good demonstration to farmers as to where the underground water was on their farms using the technique so to them at least my abilities are proven. Even if you disregard this, why would the pilot head the plane like a missile or flying bomb to the Southern Indian ocean where Diego Garcia, a top secret Military base is located? And how do you explain the continuation of this crap, namely the Isis/Andreas Lubitz German Airlines incident? By the way I was followed yesterday by a chappie that looked liked an Arab when I went to the courthouse. This and many other incidents. Yes Isis, Hi to you.I know you are going to read this. What you need to know that is that Mohummad never incited a Jihad to kill people. His call was for a Jihad against materialism and for Spirituality. One day you will stand in front of Allah, and you are not going to like his judgement upon you for corrupting the glorious religion that Allah handed down to Mohummad, and you turning it into hatred and murder. You will die a thousand deaths, but that is for Allah to decide.

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MH 370 -- Jo Pete, Tue, 11 Aug 2015, 11:04:19 (95-226-105-118.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo again BT. MH370 needs mentioning. Ray's theor smacks a bit of conspiracyy. Either that or he's been at the whacky bakky again.
I have no doubt that the truth will never be known. In all likelyhood the aircraft had hard contact with the sea and broke up so that there is nothing really to find.
The evidence points to the following.
The captain decided to commit suicide. As he approached Vietnamese airspace he sent the 1st officer back into the cabin then locked him out of the flightdeck. Changed course 180 deg. Climbed to 45 000' de pressudrised the aircraft,whilst he was on oxygen to kill all in the cabin the flew the plane on a carefully planned route into the southern Indian Ocean. Wether this was done by him ,or autop[ilot will remain unknown but I suspect auto pilot. The plane then flew until it ran out of fuel,stalled,and plummeted at some speed into the sea.
What I'm also pretty sure of is that the Malaysian Govt and the airline are hiding some facts to limit their liability.
Only surmise can account for this tragedy.My account fits all the facts as I know them. I have spent much time following the story and cogitating the facts.
What do you okes think?

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This & That -- Jo Pete, Tue, 11 Aug 2015, 10:49:39 (95-226-105-118.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo BT. Decided to check in here after quite a while.
My life goes on fairly uneventfully. Daily I have a few challenges to overcome. Sadly,after 5 years my physio with the Taliban Terrorist has come to an end as my ex company has pulled out of the payment deal. Still I was so fortunate to have her for 5 years.
As I speak my daughters are travelling from Kyle to harare after competing in the sailing nationals. It's an open event,male and female compete together. Bron came 2nd,Meg 3rd. Particularly impressed with Bron's performance. She returned from UK on Thursday swith her partner and 1 year old baby. Friday was spent packing for Kyle,boats,camping gear etc., and departing for Kyle,nanny for baby et al. Some things don't change.
Ja Ray they have what they call Formula E. Each driver has 2 cars as one won't last the distance. My feelinf is that it won't last too long. Hell there are complaints that f1 does not have enough noise.
Terry,Bill Picken has recently posted many photos of that 2000 OCA do,including one of you and I.
How can I get this to you?

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Lions save the planet -- Ray, Tue, 11 Aug 2015, 2:52:30 (NoHost/

Goodwell Nzou, come let me take you by the hand and tell you the truth, even though you may not like it. Lions are the ones that are preventing your home from being turned into a desert. Do you know what hoofed locusts are? Huh? They are all the antelopes and beasts that are chomping up all the vegetation that is preventing the rain from eroding all the topsoil, making the rivers red with mud and washing away the earth, eventually turning the land into something well, like the Sahara desert. Lions keep all these chompers under control. Lions create forest woodlands lions create a paradise. Destroy the lion and you will have all the vegetation grazed away and you will have a desert. The lion stands between desert and forest. If you don't believe me then google "How wolves changed the course of rivers" a study done when they re-introduced wolves to the land from which they were removed. The wolves prevented deer from eating up the vegetation that stopped erosion.
Lions wolves whatever, have a vital role to play on this planet. They are there for a reason. Without them we really would die.

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In Zimbabwe, We Don’t Cry for Lions -- GOODWELL NZOU, Fri, 07 Aug 2015, 1:13:06 (NoHost/

Winston-Salem, N.C. — MY mind was absorbed by the biochemistry of gene editing when the text messages and Facebook posts distracted me.

So sorry about Cecil.

Did Cecil live near your place in Zimbabwe?

Cecil who? I wondered. When I turned on the news and discovered that the messages were about a lion killed by an American dentist, the village boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families like mine.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html?referrer=&_r=0">http://nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html?referrer=&_r=0</a>

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Petrol coupons from 1971 -- Alan Piggott (Wondering), Thu, 06 Aug 2015, 23:48:08 (cpe-75-86-254-232.wi.res.rr.com/

Are there any collectors out there who may have a monetary interest in these 44yr. Old coupons.
20 off ration coupons
8 one unit coupons
4 five unit coupons
And one ration card.

If there is any interest in these, I could email pictures of them to you contact me at my email address above.

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. -- . (.), Thu, 06 Aug 2015, 22:22:16 (NoHost/

Edith Duly is a nursing home the real Edith is long gone.

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Just passing them on... -- James., Thu, 06 Aug 2015, 1:58:47 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/


These 'funnies' come in from various sources, many of them from Josephine who used to post here. The great thing about emailed 'funnies' is the fact that one can simply erase them with a click if they don't appeal.

Lion business is madness. And the needless suffering of the brute. It'd be dandy to fire an arrow or bolt into the dentist and them have some keen chaps hunt him down. Don't think he'd like that!

'Man's inhumanity to Man [and to animals] makes countless
thousands mourn...'


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Edith Duly -- Maggi, Wed, 05 Aug 2015, 23:55:16 (ppp121-44-240-132.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/

I am hoping some here can shed some light for me urgently. Had an e-mail from my husbands uncle in the UK - he was going through some family information, came across an EDITH DULY and needs to urgently get in contact with this person. I have gone onto FB site as well and can only find Edith Duly Nursing Home in Bulawayo - does any one here know an Edith Duly or possibly her connection to Norman & Judy Mackay. This is a long shot Many thanks.

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Subject. -- Ray, Mon, 03 Aug 2015, 15:08:23 (NoHost/

You can take 4000 white farmers' land away from them but no international uproar. But shoot a lion with a crossbow and all hell breaks loose in the international media.

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Zimbabwe in major International Uproar but not over Farm Dispossessions. -- Ray, Mon, 03 Aug 2015, 15:05:18 (NoHost/

(CNN)As outrage grows over the killing of Cecil the lion, Zimbabwe has called on the United States to extradite the American dentist who shot the prized big cat.
Zimbabwe has started extradition proceedings and hopes the United States will cooperate, said Oppah Muchinguri, the African nation's environment minister.
Walter Palmer "had a well-orchestrated agenda which would tarnish the image of Zimbabwe and further strain the relationship between Zimbabwe and the U.S., Muchinguri said.

Palmer, his professional hunter guide, and the owner of the land where the hunt took place are accused of an illegal hunt under the country's Parks and Wildlife Act, Muchinguri said in a statement.
Palmer is accused of financing an illegal hunt, and he and the professional hunter are also accused of illegally using a crossbow "to conceal the illegal hunt" so they wouldn't alert rangers on patrol, she said.

The landowner allegedly allowed the hunt to be conducted without a lion quota and without the necessary permit, Muchinguri said.
"The professional hunter, client and land owner were therefore all engaged in poaching of the lion," she said.

She added, "This must be condemned in the strongest possible terms by all genuine, animal-loving conservationists who believe in sustainable utilization of natural resources."
American dentist says he regrets killing famed lion
Palmer, from Minnesota, has said he relied on the expertise of local guides "to ensure a legal hunt."

"I had no idea that the lion I took was a known, local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt," Palmer said in a statement Tuesday.
He allegedly paid $50,000 in early July to hunt the lion with a crossbow near Hwange National Park in western Zimbabwe.

Cecil -- a major tourist draw at Hwange -- was lured out of the park sanctuary with a dead animal on top of a vehicle, according to the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force.
The 13-year-old lion, recognizable by the black streaks in his mane, suffered a slow death, the conservation group said.
Two Zimbabweans freed on bail in death of Cecil the lion.

A Palmer representative contacts U.S. game officials
Palmer's whereabouts are publicly unknown amid the uproar over the hunt, though his representative contacted the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Friday, the agency said.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the circumstances of the lion's death.
"The service's investigation is ongoing and appreciates that Dr. Palmer's representative voluntarily reached out to the service," the agency said, offering no detail about the correspondence.

Late yesterday we were voluntarily contacted by a rep of Dr. Palmer. We appreciate the cooperation, investigation is ongoing. #CecilTheLion
— US Fish and Wildlife (@USFWS) July 31, 2015
This week, the Fish and Wildlife Service made a public appeal to Palmer, asking him to contact the agency: "That investigation will take us wherever the facts lead. At this point in time, however, multiple efforts to contact Dr. Walter Palmer have been unsuccessful," said Edward Grace, the Fish and Wildlife Service's deputy chief of law enforcement. "We ask that Dr. Palmer or his representative contact us immediately."
Minister: Taking this issue seriously
Meanwhile, a White House petition requesting that Palmer be extradited to Zimbabwe may receive a response from the Obama administration.
The petition needed to receive 100,000 signatures by August 27 to get a response. It had more than 175,000 signatures by Friday afternoon.
Muchinguri said that there was also much outcry in Zimbabwe and that nearly 500,000 people via Facebook had called for Palmer's extradition.
"We are taking this issue seriously," she said, adding that Palmer should be tried in Zimbabwe.
Hundreds of protesters have gathered this week outside Palmer's dental practice in Bloomington, Minnesota, CNN affiliate WCCO-TV in Minneapolis reported.
In an email obtained by WCCO, Palmer wrote a letter to his patients, saying, "I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion. That was never my intention."
Cecil backlash: Where is Walter Palmer?
Feds mum on extradition request.
The U.S. State Department said that as a matter of policy, it would not comment on specific extradition requests.
Cecil the lion's death renews calls for hunting ban
"Privacy considerations prevent us from commenting further on the status of the U.S. citizen allegedly involved," it said. "For inquiries regarding any law enforcement aspects of the case, we refer you to the government of Zimbabwe or the Department of Justice."

The Department of Justice declined to comment on the extradition request.
Investigations indicate the killing of Cecil was illegal because the landowner "was not allocated a lion on his hunting quota for 2015," said a statement from the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority.

Cecil lovers send in donations.
The lion's death has seen a huge boost in donations for conservation efforts, according to Oxford University's Wildlife Conservation Research Unit. Its researchers had been tracking Cecil since 2008.

So far, $470,000 has been raised, enough to fund research into lion conservation in Hwange National Park for two years, it said. Two U.S. philanthropists, Tom Kaplan and his wife, Daphne Recanati Kaplan, have pledged to match any further donations, up to $100,000, it added.

Cecil's cubs likely to survive
Meanwhile, Cecil's cubs are likely to survive, even in the wake of the animal's death, according to one scientist who had been studying the lion.
The cubs are alive and are likely to be defended by Cecil's brother, Jericho, who may have fathered some cubs himself, said professor David Macdonald, director of Oxford's Wildlife Conservation Research Unit.

The cubs are not being tracked, and conservationists would have to find the adult females to find the cubs, Macdonald said.

Male coalitions -- often brothers -- oversee prides of females in lion society, and any threat is posed by external, incoming male lions, Macdonald said.

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Missing Malaysian Plane -- Ray, Thu, 30 Jul 2015, 16:08:17 (NoHost/

On Aug 29 last year I posted the following in response to a challenge from Skankie: see below. Some wreckage from a boeing 777 has just been found washed up at Reunion Island. The Indian South Equatorial current flows from the crash site, south of Diego Garcia, to Reunion Island.

"Flight 370 and Flight MH7 -- ., Fri, 29 Aug 2014, 0:19:46 (NoHost/

Ok Skankie a challenge is a challenge.
Here it is.
1. The plane crashed.
2. Nobody is alive.
3. The plane was crashed deliberately by the pilot.
Co-ordinates 13 degrees 01’ 28.1” S 84 degrees 04’ 54.2” E
The minutes and seconds are approximate but can be more accurately determined by radiesthesia.
4. Its approx halfway between Cocos islands and British Indian Ocean Territory.
The pilot himself hijacked (diverted the plane) on a suicide mission to Diego Garcia.
5. Three accomplices confiscated passengers satellite cellphones at gunpoint. A few did try call but were brutally suppressed.
6. USN responds, sends up fighters.
7. They did not want to shoot down the plane near Diego Garcia for secrecy purposes. They forced the plane to divert to open ocean south east of Diego Garcia.
8. The pilot, when he realized the mission had failed, ditched the plane.
9. The incident is suppressed by the NSA because of sensitive installations at Diego Garcia. They do not want any unnecessary attention drawn to the location.
9. The shooting down of Malaysian Flight MH7 at the Ukraine was in retaliation for this attempted terrorist attack.

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The Regime -- ant brooks, Mon, 27 Jul 2015, 14:51:27 (adsl-108-129-179-148.aby.bellsouth.net/

Hello all. Been off the scene for a while. JoPete saw me in my Chaplin rugby jersey on Facebook and was impressed!

Question: Today's Timeslive says AAC is going to fire 1/3 of its employees. Is this a sign of the Zimisation of the Former Racist Regime? The middle class either get into management with all the perks, accept a move to the lower class or leave.

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Some Deep Philosophical Considerations -- Ray, Tue, 21 Jul 2015, 19:57:07 (NoHost/

Men are Deep Thinkers.

I mowed the lawn today, and after doing so I sat down and had a cold beer. The drink facilitated some deep thinking. My wife walked by and asked me what I was doing and I said 'nothing'.

The reason I said that instead of saying 'just thinking' is because she would have said 'about what'. At that point I would have to explain that men are deep thinkers about various topics which would lead to other questions.

Finally I thought about an age-old question: Is giving birth more painful than getting kicked in the nuts? Women always maintain that giving birth is way more painful than a chap getting kicked in the nuts.

Well, after another beer, and some heavy deductive thinking, I have come up with the answer to that question. Getting kicked in the nuts is more painful than having a baby; and here is the reason for my conclusion.

A year or so after giving birth, a woman will often say, "It might be nice to have another child." On the other hand, you never hear a fellow say, "You know, I think I would like another kick in the nuts." I rest my case. Time for another beer.

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. -- Yoohoo Ray, Tue, 30 Jun 2015, 17:11:53 (NoHost/

- More stuff from the irrepressible humorist James.
(My spell check changed it to irresponsible, lucky I caught it Wew!)

These are classified ads, which were actually placed in U.K. Newspapers:
8 years old,
Hateful little bastard.

1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbour's dog.

Mother is a Kennel Club registered Alsatian (German Shepherd).
Father is a Super Dog, able to leap tall fences in a single bound.

Also 1 gay bull for sale.

Must sell washer and dryer £100.

Worn once by mistake.
Call Stephanie.

**** And the WINNER is... ****

Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica, 45 volumes.
Excellent condition, £200 or best offer. No longer needed, got married, wife knows everything.

Statement of the Century
Thought from the Greatest Living Scottish Thinker--Billy Connolly. "If women are so bloody perfect at multitasking, How come they can't have a headache and sex at the same time?"

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. -- Ray, Wed, 24 Jun 2015, 16:57:12 (NoHost/

From James....

Dear Abby,

My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from the beginning, and, when I confront him, he denies everything. What's worse, everyone knows that he cheats on me. It is so humiliating. Also, since he lost his job 14 years ago, he hasn't even looked for a new one. All he does all day is smoke cigars, cruise around and shoot the bull with his buddies, while I have to work to pay the bills. Since our daughter went away to college he doesn't even pretend to like me, and even hints that I may be a lesbian.

What should I do?

Signed: Clueless.

Dear Clueless:

Grow up and dump him. Good grief woman! You don't need him anymore!

You're running for President of the United States. Act like one.

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. -- Ray, Tue, 23 Jun 2015, 15:06:59 (NoHost/

I have word from terrorism experts that this is an Isis attack. The statement You are raping our women and taking our land is a signature Isis statement. The purpose of the attack is to stoke up blacks against whites to make it easier for Isis to recruit blacks. Roof has absolutely nothing to do with Rhodesians and South Africans. The media is playing along and supporting Isis by proclaiming that it is a "hate crime" a special crime done by white on black. I wonder how come any other violent crime of any other nature is not also a hate crime.

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Megabucks Doubler -- Chuck, Tue, 23 Jun 2015, 9:51:16 (NoHost/

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Rhodesia in America -- Tim Murphy-St. Louis-Missouri-USA, Tue, 23 Jun 2015, 2:14:30 (68-188-68-66.static.stls.mo.charter.com/

To any who would be interested. Since that thug killed those 9 people in South Carolina all over TV there have been images of the old Rhodesian and South African flags and the name "Rhodesia" itself. I'll admit it under tragic circumstance but at least the name is out there.

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Wpnerful world of of Afrikaans... -- James S, Fri, 19 Jun 2015, 19:56:49 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/

Just passing this on... James.

The Wonderful World of Afrikaans.

How do you explain the word "sommer" to someone who is not South African? It's not only a foreign word, it's a foreign concept. Perhaps the English never do anything "just sommer". There really is no equivalent.... "Why are you laughing? Just sommer."

"Bakkie" is another one, very useful around this house for all sizes and shapes of containers and dishes. Also used for what they call "utes" in OZ or "pickup" in England. I find it an indispensable word.

We all know "voetstoots" of course. It's been officially adopted into South African English. There's no concise, one-word equivalent in English. "As is" just doesn't hack it. And it's such a humorous word, conjuring up images of pushing that brand new car home...

There's no good English word for "dwaal". It doesn't mean dream, or daze. It's close to absent-mindedness, but that's not quite it. Being in one so often myself, I'm not likely to stop using it.

I think "gogga" is the most delightful word for insect I've ever heard. Children all over the world should use it. "Insect" just doesn't stand a chance.

And I think "moffie" is a far better word than all those embarrassed English attempts at defining a homosexual: gay, queer, poofter... None of them are half as expressive. Somehow "moffie" doesn't sound as derogatory either.

And then there's "gatvol". OK, I know it's very rude. But it's so very expressive, nê? "Fed up" doesn't have half the impact. "Gatvol" is a word used more frequently than ever in the workplace and the media these days, with increasing intensity.

While we're on the subject, another phrase which outstrips any English attempt is "Hy sal sy gat sien". "He'll get his come-uppance" definitely lacks the relish in comparison.

"Donder" is another very useful word, used as an all-purpose swearword, which again has no good English translation. Thunder does not even come a good second. Used as a verb, it can express any degree of roughing up. As a noun, it is a pejorative, as they politely say in dictionaries, to mean whatever you want it to mean. And there's no good translation for "skopskiet-en-donder" either.

It says something about the English that they have no word for "jol". Probably the dictionary compilers regard it as slang, but it's widely used for "Going out on the town, kicking up your heels, enjoying yourself ... Although curiously, the word "Yule" in Yuletide is related to "jol" and derived from Old English. So somewhere along the line, the English forgot how to "jol".

How do you explain the passion of "lekker!"? "Wow last night was a "lekker jol".

I've yet to meet a South African over the age of two who doesn't use the word "muti". Translation is impossible - "witches potion" is about the nearest I can get. It needs a long cultural historical explanation. Between "muti" and the pedantic "medication", there's simply no contest.

Other words that come to mind: "jou bliksem", "wag 'n bietjie", "nie so haastig nie", "just now", "sakkie-sakkie music", "ou swaer", "Ja, nee".

"Dudu". Telling your infant to "go to bed" is just not the same as, "Go dudu now, my baby!"

How about "bliksem"? "I'm going to bliksem you!". Wonderful Afrikaans expression with nothing to compare in the English language, at least nothing that gives the same satisfaction.

"Mielie pap" - there is no word like "pap", here. They have porridge, and when they say porridge, they mean oats. There's no Maltabela, no Tasty Wheat, No Creemy Meal... In other words, there's no "pap"!

"Mislik" - such a 'lekker' word. "Why are you so mislik, you little skelm?"

Which brings us to "skelm" - here you just get "baddies", but that doesn't have the same sneaky connotation of a proper skelm, does it?!

And "snot-klap"... Fabulous word! "Do you want a snot-klap?" How would you say that in English? "I'll slap you so hard the snot will fly!"? It's just not the same.

"Loskop" is another favourite. The English just don't understand when I say, "Sorry, I forgot - I'm such a loskop!"

And finally..... "moer". There simply isn't a word here that denotes the feeling of dread behind the phrase "If you don't clean your room, I'll moer you!"

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Dylann Roof -- G, Fri, 19 Jun 2015, 3:27:56 (NoHost/

The badges on his shirt are Photoshopped, Pity the world does not paraded Southern African killers.

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. -- Ray, Thu, 18 Jun 2015, 17:07:43 (NoHost/

helloo anybody here? (echo)
Dylann Roof, who shot nines Blacks in USA at church was wearing the old South African Flag and Rhodesian flag on his shirt on facebook photo.
Many of Roof’s Facebook friends, including those from his high school, are black. The cousin of the church’s pastor who was killed quoted a survivor who said Roof told the church: “I have to do it. You’re raping our women and taking over the country. You have to go.”

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. -- Ray, Tue, 16 Jun 2015, 15:41:00 (NoHost/

Sorry Vatican, Governor, Hitler already tried it. He got as far as 20 million before he was stopped. These were quickly replaced by a thing called the Baby Boom.(A-that'll be us). They don't realize that humans are like khaki-bos. You not going to get rid of them how much you spray and burn and harrow. Mugabe tried it also.

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Post Birth Birth Control -- Ray, Tue, 16 Jun 2015, 15:21:29 (NoHost/

Vatican speaker and California Governor in push for massive depopulation... talk of 'Planetary Court' and removal of 6 billion people under new 'Earth Constitution' and 'World Government'
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Vatican speaker and California Governor in push for massive depopulation... talk of 'Planetary Court' and removal of 6 billion people under new 'Earth Constitution' and 'World Government'
The depopulationists are on the move again, pushing hard for the elimination of six billion people on planet Earth in order to bring the planet down to what's being touted as its "sustainable carrying capacity of one billion people."

But this time, the depopulation agenda may be codified by the Vatican. Professor John Schellnhuber has been chosen as a speaker for the Vatican's rolling out of a Papal document on climate change. He's the professor who previously said the planet is overpopulated by at least six billion people. Now, the Vatican is giving him a platform which many expect will result in an official Church declaration in support of radical depopulation in the name of "climate science."

"The teaching document, called an encyclical, is scheduled for release on June 18 at Vatican City," reports Breitbart.com. "Perhaps with the exception of the 1968 encyclical on contraception, no Vatican document has been greeted with such anticipation."

So I now throw the question back to the Pope, Professor John Schellnhuber, Bill Gates, Ted Turner and other depopulation fanatics: How exactly are you planning to eliminate six billion people from this planet?

The truly hilarious part in all this is that the world's masses are already so totally brainwashed by climate propaganda that if you ordered them to voluntarily report to "eco-friendly euthanasia chambers" to save the planet by killing themselves, they'd line up in droves to comply! Heck, they'd buy tickets!

Interestingly, that might not be such a bad idea just to invoke the global Darwin award and invite the world's most idiotic, obedient sheeple to voluntarily remove themselves from the human gene pool in a sort of modern-day mass sacrifice to Gaia. The Aztecs did it, and that worked out just great! (Just ask all the Aztecs that are still around.) What could possibly go wrong?

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. -- Ray, Tue, 26 May 2015, 15:27:47 (NoHost/

Swift Terns and Sandwich Terns most likely, The Common Terns probably gone for the winter....

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Gweru fire brigade -- johnny b, Sat, 23 May 2015, 3:35:16 (CPE-58-170-114-170.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Looks like the change of Government was already showing it's true colours that early !! I remember the Gatooma fire station being burnt down through sabotage in the early days.

Good to hear the Kaap is rejuvinating itself without assistance.

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Over the hill to the sea... -- Jenz (Feeling hopeful), Fri, 22 May 2015, 11:35:51 (41-133-106-59.dsl.mweb.co.za/

Took a trip yesterday, over Ou Kaapse Weg to Kommetjie. This was the first time since the huge fires that took out thousands of acres along the peninsula. The views were sobering. Some hillsides were just black. Some sported drifts of ash. Such desolation. Hoped to stop at Silvermine, before the road descends into Noordhoek, but there was a boom across the entrance road. HOWEVER... In several places there was bright new growth showing - mostly brackens and ferns, with some sword leaves promising lilies later on. And on the top of a five metre cliff next to the road a clump of red hot pokers in bloom - probably the most hopeful sign that the plants will be back!
On to Kommetjie...and a spot of birding at the Kom and the Island. Dozens of Sacred Ibis, some Hadeda Ibis, Cattle Egrets, and a large flock of mixed terns on the rocks... and Cape Cormorants flying in skeins. Extremely large flock of birds (possibly gannets) some distance out to sea. Very low tide and the wall of rocks at the sea-side of the little bay were exposed - the bay flat and shallow, and host to a dozen or more Greater Flamingo. Took a walk around The Island, and found it rather soiled with dog mess, and plastic waste. What a shame!

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Tragi-comic scenes at Gweru city fire... -- James S (Old news, but still 'hot'....), Thu, 21 May 2015, 2:08:33 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/


Tragi-comic scenes at Gweru city fire result in Council inquiry.

Gweru Gazette – 18-Mar-1983 (NOTE:Gweru is the 3rd largest city in Zimbabwe)

A large fire gutted three commercial premises' caused millions of dollars worth of damage and was the scene of an amazing performance by Gweru city's fire brigade on March 3.

Witnesses who were present said it would have outshone the Goon show.... if it hadn’t been so serious !

The council firemen's actions during the blaze, which started at about 5.15 pm, was so inept and undisciplined (incompetent) , according to by-standers, that the large crowd watching laughed and jeered at them.

Finally the Air Force Thornhill Fire Brigade was called, which organised all the firemen present and quenched the fire before it could spread further to other old wooden buildings, further along Gweru's Sixth Street.

The three premises, Wilson's Chemist, the Record Centre and a department of Zimbank at Gweru, were completely gutted. Police are investigating, the cause of the fire and claims against insurance companies are pending.


The fire apparently started in the roof of one of the shops.

During the fire-fighting operations Police and Army members arrived and tried to keep the interested crowds back. But a second witness said that some were drunk.

The Public Works Committee of the Gweru City Council has recommended that the city's fire brigade receive strong admonishment and ''be strongly retributed" (sic) for their performance and also that "stern disciplinary measures" should be introduced.

lt also recommended that the AF Thornhill Fire Brigade should he complimented, together with the Army members for their invaluable help in putting out the fire.

Another recommendation by the committee was that the Town Clerk should investigate the identity of a drunken Army member at the scene.

Several Gweru residents told a Gazette reporter this week that the actions of the Gweru Fire Brigade members were "a disgrace" after a few of them did arrive promptly at the fire at about 5.25 pm.

Of the full complement of about 36 firemen only about seven or eight arrived, and some were dressed in football kit and had no helmets.

The others, although theoretically on duty call, were out "playing football".

Only one fire engine was available... as the other was out of action... awaiting a spare part.

"After arriving at the fire... the real fun began." said a second spokesman.

"The Chief Fire Officer did NOT seem to know how to operate the fire engine. Then the firemen could not locate the fire hydrants (an offence in terms of regulations). When these were eventually located, they lacked tools to open the covers.... as these were in the other fire engine.... which was out of action".

Other witnesses made the following points:

The firemen finally connected their hoses to water without coupling them to the engine correctly, so only a dribble of low pressure water came out as they tried to put water on the roof where smoke was seen.

Later the Thornhill Air Force firemen arrived, correctly dressed and directed jets of high pressure water on the fire until the tank water in their fire appliance was exhausted and they ran out of foam.

Led by WOI N Swanepoel, they then organised the Gweru black firemen members and managed to get their hose correctly coupled to the council's fire engine.

But when it was switched on, the three Gweru firemen who were holding it lost control.

The strong jet of water hit a fireman on the roof, knocking him off the roof !

At a second attempt the force of the hose swivelled them around and they directed water on to another building opposite, instead of being directed onto the blaze.>


Another witness said that that at one time a Gweru fireman dressed in football kit left the fire hose he was helping to hold ....and ran off to move his shoes from the pavement to take them across the road. He apparently lost concentration !

"The huge crowd were laughing and jeering and could see nothing but the funny side ...of our fire brigade.

If one had had a movie camera there...one could have made a million dollars in royalties from the picture."

Another resident said that 'luckily the wind blew the fire away from the nearby Old Marche building' .

"If that had gone up it would have spread to the whole of the Sixth Street shopping areas on the south side, where all are wooden buildings."

During discussions about the Gweru Fire Brigade's performance at the fire by the Public Works Committee later, one councillor suggested that the firemen lacked "proper training".

However, other councillors emphasised that the men had received proper training and that most of them had been with the council for several years.

They said the "disgraceful" performance was due to negligence and indiscipline which called for stern measures.

A report of the fire appearing in the Gweru Times last week said the fire was doused at about 8.30 pm, largely thanks to the "cohesion" provided by the Thornhill Air Force fire fighters and their fine diligent and organised work.

The paper said "thank you" to the 21 Gweru and Thornhill Air force men led by WOI Neville Swanepoel, named each one present and said they deserved praise.

It added: "There were some in the crowd passing comment on what appeared to be confusion - but whatever out municipal brigade lacked in experience they more than made up for in tenacity and personal courage."

The report also said: "A member of the Air Force personnel commented after dousing the fire... that they had been impressed with the calibre of Gweru's municipal firemen."

It is not known how representatives of various insurance companies view the incident, thought to involve about $2 million worth of damage.

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He's Alive -- johnny b (Bugger), Sun, 17 May 2015, 12:59:35 (CPE-58-170-135-42.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au/

Yup just been to Mali, to witness signing a peace treaty, that is if he can see with those eyes of his !

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. -- Ray, Fri, 15 May 2015, 3:47:06 (NoHost/

The codger should be 91 years old, are they sure he is still alive? Has he been seen anywhere lately?

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Satire in Zim. -- johnny b (Be brave, very brave !), Wed, 06 May 2015, 16:28:51 (CPE-124-177-180-53.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

James - thanks. Most interesting Utube clip. These guys are pulling off a very brave act and I take my hat off to them. To see light in a very guarded, shackled society takes carefully picked topics to keep on the right side of the law and where there is no freedom of speech. The sign language presenter is brilliant too!

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30 min. documentary - satire and Zimbabwe -- James S, Mon, 04 May 2015, 16:19:17 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/

A half hour documentary on satire and Mugabe.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1wTucQlj9s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1wTucQlj9s</a>

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. -- Ray, Mon, 04 May 2015, 3:39:26 (cpe-76-175-194-36.socal.res.rr.com/

who cares

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From Eritrea to Ireland -- asdf, Tue, 28 Apr 2015, 11:57:20 (NoHost/

Peter Kefle tells his story of how he traveled from Eritrea to Ireland. He is joined by Fr. Alan Hilliard from DIT, Sue Conlan - CEO of the Refugee Council and Leonard Doyle of IOM in Zurich.

Have a listen to this podcast and see what it says about Ireland's asylum seeker process.

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Enjoy the past and share it -- johnny b (no worries), Mon, 27 Apr 2015, 13:29:15 (CPE-124-177-180-53.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

No worries as the Ozzies say James. It is good to add food for thought and pick the grey matter. I notice nobody answered my question is Rhodes is still hiding behind the Bulawayo Museum. The daughter who is over on holiday has just confirmed it is, just in case anyone was wondering. The animal displays are still the same as 30 years ago. The Doddiburg elephant is still there too.

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Plagiarism... -- James S, Mon, 27 Apr 2015, 1:31:35 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/


Johnny B: Sorry about the drums poem - I had no intention of trying to pass it off as my own work; someone sent it on to me and I took the liberty of posting it here.

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Sam Cowen presents: #ImAForeigner -- Sam, Sat, 25 Apr 2015, 14:58:07 (NoHost/

Sam Cowen presents: #ImAForeigner
24 April 2015 3:52 PM
The world's attention has been on Africa, but more specifically on South Africa as the country has been seeing violent xenophobic scenes where people from across the continent have been victims of violence and deaths.

Government and media and indeed many other South Africans have been spreading messages of #NoToXenophobia. Sam Cowen, who herself was not born in South Africa spoke about being raised in an apartheid South Africa where white people enjoyed certain privileges. Sam spoke about the love and comfort she enjoyed from South Africans ever since she and her family relocated here when she was young girl.

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The Conundrum Trees -- johnny b (Good reading memoirs), Fri, 24 Apr 2015, 15:28:43 (CPE-124-177-180-53.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Have just finished reading/studying C Emily Dibb's book of the above title, not to get mixed up with "Back to the Trees" ! The last chapter "The call of Africa" has a poem which reflects what Africa is all about. But the random stories take a nibble at life as it used to be with an amazing amount of information. Similar to Sheila Macdonald's. "Sally in Rhodesia" and "Martie and others in Rhodesia" Conundrum Trees was Originally printed by Modus Publications and are books that I never allow to get dusty or given away.

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So much heritage being lost -- johnny b (Rhodesian Antiquities), Fri, 24 Apr 2015, 14:20:22 (CPE-124-177-180-53.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Thanks Barbara, I must do more reading and catching up. Good to see that you are still keeping an eye on things !! Hope life is treating you well. We have the daughter over in Zims holidaying at present. They are still having late but good thunderstorms, she now has found out why we have this peculiar love of Africa. Sending us pics of the lowly "chongololos" and the 56" prize kudu horns my sister keeps. The Kudu were shot in the tobacco growing haydays before UDI as you may remember. That puts it at over 45-50 years ago ! Reckon my father (God bless him) soaked them in DDT because nothing has eaten them yet, they are preserved with linseed oil now. She is taking photo's we never took before we left.

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Poem -- Barbara, Tue, 21 Apr 2015, 20:35:00 (CPE-58-174-96-6.cxyh2.woo.bigpond.net.au/

Johnny B that poem iss The Sounds of Distant Drums by Alf Hutchison. He has written many, mostly war, mostly Southern African. He should be better known.

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well composed -- johnny b (impressed), Tue, 21 Apr 2015, 16:34:38 (CPE-124-177-180-53.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Well compiled James. A bit of poetic justice to the situation.

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Megabuck Doubler -- Mass Lottery, Tue, 21 Apr 2015, 5:07:19 (NoHost/

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South African Leader Calls for End to Antiforeigner Violence -- sa, Sun, 19 Apr 2015, 11:32:16 (NoHost/

In recent years, impoverished South Africans have lashed out regularly at laborers from Zimbabwe and Malawi and business owners from Somalia and Ethiopia. Some feel these immigrants take jobs and open businesses that could open the door to the better life that continues to elude many poor South Africans.

According to Human Rights Watch, hundreds of foreigner-owned stores have been ransacked each year since 2008, when a spasm of antiforeigner attacks left more than 60 people dead.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/south-african-leader-calls-for-end-to-anti-foreigner-violence-1429204484">http://www.wsj.com/articles/south-african-leader-calls-for-end-to-anti-foreigner-violence-1429204484</a>

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Zimbabwean drums... -- Jamesle, Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 15:56:31 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/

Zimbabwean Drums.

The drums are calling old man, and they are louder by the day.

They are calling you to judgement and now's the time to pay

for the wrongs you've done your country and the trust betrayed.

So hear those drums swelling, hear well and be afraid.

You came to power on waves of hope that you would make your mark,

in a land that shone in Africa like diamonds in the dark.

In simple faith the people put their trust in your care,

and were repaid by the Fifth Brigade and the CIO and fear.

Twenty eight years of motorcades and lavish trips abroad

a nations heritage is lost through patronage and fraud.

The Chiefs grow fat while people starve and famine stalks our homes.

On idle farms the weeds grow rank and cover cattle bones.

The youth are taught your slogans, but even as they sing

the drums of change are beating for the truth is seeping in.

The demagogue has feet of clay and lies will not sustain

the shattered land that once seemed free and will be so again.

Too late to blame the drought, the Brits, the whites, the MDC

For all know where the finger points with cold finality.

So hear the drums, old man, and listen to them well.

They foretell of your end days and they have much to tell.

For he who sows the seeds of hate will reap the grapes of wrath,

so tremble in your bed at night, at the end of your sorry path.

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South Africa shops looted despite Zuma call for peace -- jzuma (Van), Fri, 17 Apr 2015, 13:43:59 (NoHost/

Foreign-owned shops in South Africa have been attacked and looted in east Johannesburg, the latest in a series of xenophobic attacks.
A standoff is ongoing in Johannesburg, with police forming a barrier between an angry crowd and foreign-owned shops.
The violence comes despite Thursday's rally against xenophobia in the coastal city of Durban, and condemnation from President Jacob Zuma.
At least five people have died in anti-foreigner attacks in recent weeks.
Migrants, mostly from other African states and Asia, have moved to South Africa in large numbers since white-minority rule ended in 1994.
Many South Africans accuse them of taking jobs in a country where the unemployment rate is 24%.

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.. -- Ray, Thu, 16 Apr 2015, 21:17:15 (NoHost/

JohnnyB its alway been like this 3500 years ago the Pharoah Akhenaton fired all the priests with all their little Gods exacting tribute from everybody for God this and that and Akhenataton declared only one God. After his death the priests tore down all the cities he built and removed his name from everywhere. It took until 1914 for German Archeologists to discover that he even existed. This is not the first time it has happened in "Zimbabwe" they suppressed all information about the whites who originated the Zimbabwe ruins also.

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history is fact -- johnny b (History buried in Africa), Thu, 16 Apr 2015, 12:45:29 (CPE-124-177-180-53.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Quite right Ray - It would have been over 100 to 1 ratio.

Looking at the Rhodes statue being removed I wonder what the African school History textbooks will say in 50 years and what the British History books will say will be chalk and cheese. Africa will be like the Dark Ages in Europe. So much will and has been lost through the colonial history being removed to impress/indoctrinate in the African schools (if there are any genuine schools left). They will never know the real history of Africa ! All Rhodes scholarships should be withdrawn from students with "Rhodes must fall" T-shirts on.

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. -- Ray, Wed, 15 Apr 2015, 0:54:18 (NoHost/

JohnnyB there were also a helluva lot more blacks than whites, so it was all statistical you know.

70 ZARP Boers held a British Army of 11,000 at bay for days?? Yes. Go figure. They only fled when out of ammunition.
In 1915 Kitchener ordered troops to land during the disastrous ANZAC campaign in Turkey during world war one without ordering the shelling by British gunboats of the overlooking cliffs occupied by Turks, resulting in the slaughter of thousands of Aussies and New Zealanders, and losing the battle. Only his ship being sunk by the Germans and him drowning saved him from a court martial. It is sad the Boers did not kill the bastard, They would have saved hundreds of thousands of ANZAC troops.

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South African History Online -- Paul Kruger, Mon, 13 Apr 2015, 4:50:11 (NoHost/

Date: 8 July, 1895

On 8 July 1895 the Delagoa Bay railway line was officially opened by Paul Kruger. Its link to Pretoria was completed on 20 October 1894.The railway line was completed a few years after the end of the first South African War (Anglo-Boer War) and the restoration of the Transvaal Republic after it was occupied by Britain in 1877.

This link between the land-locked Transvaal Republic and Delagoa Bay, situated on the southeast coast of Mozambique, was significant to both Presidents Burger and Kruger as it would give the Republic access to the port in Delagoa Bay, thereby making it independent of the harbours of the British Colonies located in Natal and the Cape. Subsequent to discovery of the main gold reef on the Rand in 1886 the matter gained even greater urgency.

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Life goes on -- johnny b (lucky for some), Sat, 11 Apr 2015, 14:29:05 (CPE-124-177-183-175.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

I wouldn't mind even having an electrical storm here as we haven't had a decent thunder storm for over four months so far. The water coming down the ever faithful Murray River is keeping us going. Upstream has stored all the Darling flood water so we are happy to know that it still trickles down into the Murray !

With the lightning issue. Last month a person was casavaced off one of the Ozzy beaches and a kid alongside him also bowled over by the same lightning strike.

Saw several thatch huts in my youth blown apart by lightning in my patrols and farmlife, the lightning flash tracks down the smoke carbon inside the hut that is deposited on the thatch and acts like a fuse, the grass being blown thirty or forty feet away and not catching fire. Need I say the occupants were inflicted only with sore ear drums.

Before we immigrated they had a formulated a cheap lightning arrestor to direct the strikes away from the huts and was made out of copper wire slung on poles above their huts, hence we then had problems with our phonelines !! Not chopping every tree out around the huts would have been a more logical solution !

I recall Joshua saying that the Almighty must have been a racist as annually more blacks were struck by lightning than whites or words to that effect. The only whites to suffer were the golfers ! Life goes on.

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. -- Raymond (Schep), Thu, 09 Apr 2015, 22:27:37 (NoHost/

JohnnyB I know those electrical storms, once I was in a grocery store and the owner was on the other side of the counter, I a saw a blue flash come in the window, travel down between him and the counter, and out the next window. He must have been OK, because he then gave me the right change which I er, ..cautiously accepted...

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lightning and soccer -- johnny b (divine intervention), Thu, 09 Apr 2015, 14:13:00 (CPE-124-177-183-175.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Ray...Anyone remember the soccer match somewhere in Africa (maybe Dynamos vs Rufaro United twenty odd years ago)Heh heh and the winning team had three players hit by lightning, they were concussed and the ref stopped the game but the opposing team said they wanted to play on, they wanted to prove that the lightning was telling them that the opposition were meant to lose.

Whenever we played rugby at Falcon we were reminded that the field had a dip in the middle from subsidence(sp?) from the mine shaft tunnel near by. Especially if you had the ball on the wing !

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Cache Valley -- Utah, Wed, 08 Apr 2015, 1:53:13 (NoHost/

Good Neighbor: Zimbabwe native finds new home, volunteer opportunities in Logan

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. -- Ray, Tue, 07 Apr 2015, 22:42:19 (NoHost/

That's interesting Johnny B the moon has the strongest pull on the earth, the next being the sun. Thanks for telling me about the the moon man I will read up on him that quake was a doozey! Almost nothing can shut down rugby games but that one did. South Africans even gave the country away so that they could play international rugby.

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Rock'nRoll down under -- johnny b (now that you mention), Tue, 07 Apr 2015, 15:28:39 (CPE-124-177-183-175.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Incedentally Ray I think you are correct with planetary alignments as the blood moon was prior to the rather heavier shake Christchurch received last night at about 3.30am.
It woke quite a few people including our son text us to mention it at 12 midnight Ozz time. Was only a 3.8 on the reigter scale but shallow. Trimble NZ sponser a site called "Canterbury Quake Live" which gives the minute by minute reports from within 200ks of Christchurch plus map location on South island. Good value for info. It takes 15 minutes to come up with location, strength, time, depth, duration from when it happens. Pretty fast to access until all hell lets loose and then they get swamped. Check it out. Also check out NZ's Moon Man who wasn't well liked because he predicted the initial one !

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Quakes -- Ray, Mon, 06 Apr 2015, 4:44:46 (cpe-76-175-194-36.socal.res.rr.com/

Hi Johnny B I am busy refereeing a paper on earthquake prediction for a scientific journal. So about 2-3 weeks ago we had a supermoon eclipse with the sun, of course the sun with the moon passing in front of the sun. So the day before the event I said to myself, wow, wonder if there will be an earthquake tomorrow. Well sun of a gun the next day I was driving and all of a sudden on the radio they announced a 5 earthquake in Mexico, 5 earthquakes are not at all that common. So I wondered if the same thing would happen on friday, which was an shadow eclipse with the sun an the moon on opposing sides of the earth. but no reports of quakes. So It seems the earth does not like being pulled by both the sun and supermoon together but has no problem being tugged between the moon and sun.

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Long Beach -- Ray, Mon, 06 Apr 2015, 4:26:17 (cpe-76-175-194-36.socal.res.rr.com/

Jo Pete,
I was in the Auld Dubliner bar yesterday, on saturday morning in Long beach watching the useless dom Bulls playing the Lions when I heard every minute or so a strange sound like a jet plane going by with soft whistling sound. So while they were setting up a line-out I went to the entrance of the bar and to my amazement saw race cars hurtling over 130 mph past the bar about ten yards away, but what was strange was I could hear no loud screaming whining engines. Just the sound of wind like a jet going by with a soft whistling sound. What gives? Are they using hybrids now with electric motors or what? Admittedly it was at the end of a long stretch just before a hair pin curve so obviously they had to have the foot off the gas.. but what a strange sound..

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Merry Easter -- johnny b (Best wishes), Sat, 04 Apr 2015, 14:07:11 (CPE-124-177-183-175.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

May Easter bring rest and celebrations to all BT'rs who are in safe countries. Good to know some of the old school are alive and well. Here in the riverland the weather is beautiful, sipping a cool white wine to absent friends and waiting for the Lunar eclipse this evening.

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Happy Easter -- Maggi, Thu, 02 Apr 2015, 22:48:19 (ppp118-211-211-143.lns20.syd4.internode.on.net/

Wishing everyone where ever your are a very Happy Easter week-end.

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CJR Statue in BLYO -- johnny b (Trivia), Thu, 02 Apr 2015, 15:06:45 (CPE-124-177-183-175.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

The CJR statue which was in the main street of Bullies was last seen behind the Natural history Museum, hidden under a huge indigenous tree when we were there in 1995. Is it still there ???

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Rhodes scholarships -- johnny b (disgruntled), Thu, 02 Apr 2015, 14:58:23 (CPE-124-177-183-175.lns2.fli.bigpond.net.au/

With regard to Rhodes University, if the removal of the statue is an indication of what is to become of Africas heritage of European Colonisation by the ignorant I would call it treachery, thankless and never to trust the uneducated masses. They will always have a chip on their shoulders. This is what happened when the Romans pulled out of Gt. Britain. All their amazing baths, bridges, buildings and roads uncovered in that country still show they were advanced far ahead of their time but when it changed back to good old peasant lifestyles it reverted back once again to thatch huts. The Roman existence in Britain was forgotten and never appreciated and eventually all records of their occupation lost in time, the same will happen to southern Africa. Stepping back three hundred years! Their choice.

Take away the scholorships before they rename them too.

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Chaplin Reunion. -- Jo Pete, Thu, 02 Apr 2015, 13:11:48 (91-228-105-157.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo BT. TerryK sorry about late response. Haven't given attendance at OCA reunion much though to br honest. I rely totally on she who must be obeyed to get there and idon't know if the venue is accessible by wheelchair. But it would be great to see you. My email diribo@gmail.com

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Trevor Noah -- Tim, Thu, 02 Apr 2015, 8:29:11 (NoHost/

Tim Blair – Wednesday, April 01, 2015 (10:58pm)

Following the announcement that little-known South African comedian Trevor Noah would replace Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show, Salon‘s Sonia Saraiya made this prediction:
Noah is also a man of color – a literal product of apartheid, as his mother was black and his father was white, an illegal union at the time in South Africa. It’s this, ultimately, that is going to get the most attention.
That didn’t happen, mostly because it isn’t 1827. Instead, as Mark Steyn reports, leftist fans of The Daily Show swarmed to their new host’s Twitter feed – and what they found left them shocked and confused:

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'Removing Rhodes Memorial will be a more difficult issue' -- Rhodes University, Tue, 31 Mar 2015, 1:11:40 (NoHost/

News24 Home > Live > South Africa
Rhodes University name unlikely to change - Professor

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The Centre for Conflict Resolution hosted a public dialogue in Cape Town last week, debating the legacy of Cecil Rhodes. Guest speaker, Emeritus Professor of History at Rhodes University Paul Maylam, joins us in studio to discuss the public view. Watch.

In this video we tackle the issue of the Rhodes University brand. Prof Maylam seems to think that if democratic processes are followed, relevant parties at the University will vote in favour of retaining the name of Cecil Rhodes.

Students at UCT baying for the removal of a statue of Cecil Rhodes on campus has sparked a nationwide debate around Rhodes' legacy in Southern Africa and issues of transformation in South African universities.

See Video

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'Removing Rhodes Memorial will be a more difficult issue': <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://youtu.be/p1z1gBwicWk">https://youtu.be/p1z1gBwicWk</a>

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Mohair Mojo -- Barry, Tue, 31 Mar 2015, 0:59:18 (NoHost/

CESERA SAVIO: We buy about 300 tonnes of mohair and 80 per cent is purchased in South Africa. All the textile world think that the best mohair is from South Africa. Now it's not true anymore.

TIM LEE: South Africa's long-held world dominance in mohair production has waned rapidly in recent years. Post-apartheid, the country has some big challenges.

MARGARET NICHOLLS, GIFFARD, VICTORIA: There's a lot of upheaval with the, you know, the black population. They don't have social service payments, so if they can't get a job, they rustle - you know, like, get on the farms and kill the goats and the white farmers are having difficulty in that respect and the goat industry is wavering there. So it's a fantastic opportunity for Australia.

TIM LEE: It was that opportunity that persuaded GT Ferreira to emigrate from his native South Africa several years ago and settle in Australia. Many producers believe his substantial knowledge of mohair production and industry contacts heralds a new and bright future.

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. -- Ray, Mon, 30 Mar 2015, 22:24:33 (NoHost/

Rhodes University name unlikely to change - Professor
30 March, 12:23 PM
The Centre for Conflict Resolution hosted a public dialogue in Cape Town last week, debating the legacy of Cecil Rhodes. Guest speaker, Emeritus Professor of History at Rhodes University Paul Maylam, joins us in studio to discuss the public view. Watch.
In this video we tackle the issue of the Rhodes University brand. Prof Maylam seems to think that if democratic processes are followed, relevant parties at the University will vote in favour of retaining the name of Cecil Rhodes.

Students at UCT baying for the removal of a statue of Cecil Rhodes on campus has sparked a nationwide debate around Rhodes' legacy in Southern Africa and issues of transformation in South African universities.

Anybody up for changing it to Mugabe University? It can be abreviated MUGU..

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Lee Kuan Yew -- lku, Tue, 24 Mar 2015, 13:19:08 (NoHost/

Lee Kuan Yew once dismissed the idea of democracy for its own sake by saying: "You're talking about Rwanda or Bangladesh, or Cambodia, or the Philippines. They've got democracy, according to Freedom House," a US research institution.

"But have you got a civilised life to lead? People want economic development first and foremost. The leaders may talk something else. You take a poll of any people. What is it they want? The right to write an editorial as you like? They want homes, medicine, jobs, schools."

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Searching for Cousin David Sheffield -- Murray Burns, Sat, 21 Mar 2015, 13:32:46 (105-229-74-31.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/

I am trying to contact my cousin David Sheffield, last known location Perth Australia. He emigrated in the 1970s, and was working in the gold mining industry. He attended Milton High School in Bulawayo, and his wife's name is Melanie. Has anyone out there got contact details for him?

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Interesting -- Chuck, Sat, 21 Mar 2015, 6:48:12 (NoHost/


<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVskhzJR6NU&sns=tw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVskhzJR6NU&sns=tw</a> via @youtube

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. -- Ray, Thu, 19 Mar 2015, 4:20:41 (cpe-76-175-194-36.socal.res.rr.com/

The Wit of the Scots.

A Greek and a Scotsman were sitting in a Starbucks cafe discussing who had the superior culture.
Over triple lattes the Greek chap says, "Well we Greeks built the Parthenon" and arched his eyebrows.
The Scotsman replies, "Well ... it was the Scots that discovered the Summer and Winter Solstices."
The Greek retorts, "We Greeks gave birth to advanced mathematics."
The Scotsman, nodding in agreement says, "Scots were the ones who built the first timepieces and calendars."
And so on until the Greek comes up with what he thinks will end the discussion. With a flourish of finality he says, "The Greeks were the ones who invented sex!"
The Scotsman replies, "Aye, that is true, but it was we Scots who introduced it to the women!"

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Ridgeback motorcycle. -- Pete Donnelly (Never took off.), Tue, 17 Mar 2015, 15:06:37 (5e04e054.bb.isp.sky.com/

I remember the Ridgeback motorbike. Made by Terry Franklin and his crew on the southwest of Salisbury. Forget the street. I covered the introduction for Rhodesia Television and we did a short 10 min film on it, as part of the local news sometime in 1968 if my memory serves me right. Regretfully it seems it was a one-off as I don't recall it going into mass production in such a small workshop.
Unfortunately Terry was killed shortly thereafter in a road accident in Salisbury.

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OCA 115 -- TerryK, Tue, 17 Mar 2015, 8:57:54 (105-225-95-164.south.dsl.telkomsa.net/

Yo Jo Pete - are you lurking somewhere ???

I am back in Cape Town at the moment and am interested in flying up to Jo'burg for the OCA 115 Anniversary on 18 April in Edenvale.

Are you aware of the event and are you planning to go ???

I recall our long discussion at the 100 Anniversary in Harare.

Safe my Mate

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. -- Ray, Thu, 12 Mar 2015, 19:10:43 (NoHost/

Yup Zim has a point! That Irish Whusky makes the white chalk line tend to wander a bit!

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“gross error of judgement” -- Bob, Thu, 12 Mar 2015, 6:14:42 (NoHost/

Zimbabwe apologise to Mooney and Ireland over ‘alcoholic’ newspaper article

The Zimbabwe Herald article questioned the Irishman’s credibility, claiming the catch “was a shameless piece of fielding dishonesty… is it possible for a person like Mooney to be trusted?”

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. -- Ray, Wed, 11 Mar 2015, 17:47:41 (NoHost/

yeah In South Africa and Zimbabwe, shebeens are most often located in townships as an alternative to pubs and bars, where under apartheid and the Rhodesian era, indigenous Africans were barred from entering pubs or bars reserved for those of European descent.
Originally shebeens were operated illegally by women who were called Shebeen Queens and was itself a revival of the African tradition that assigned the role of alcohol brewing to women.[7] The Shebeen Queens would sell homebrewed and home-distilled alcohol and provided patrons with a place to meet and discuss political and social issues. Often, patrons and owners were arrested by the police, though the shebeens were frequently reopened because of their importance in unifying the community and providing a safe place for discussion.[8]

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crop circles in Ozz -- johnny b (factual information), Wed, 11 Mar 2015, 15:17:38 (CPE-58-170-73-99.lns4.woo.bigpond.net.au/

Ray-You know that these have been observed here in Ozz ? They do have less grass but more logs in the edge of the circle and the perimeter is littered with empty beer cans !

That is the closest I have been to an outback shebeen.

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Saturday Rugby. -- Ray, Mon, 09 Mar 2015, 17:14:53 (NoHost/

TerryK, yes Bulls are now in 5 th place on the log. Your Strepies are doing good. On top of the overall log but thats after 4 games. The penalty try they got was a bit eyebrow raising but it was not a game make or break.

But the most stunning result of all was the Golden Lions.

Two NZ teams are on the bottom, ha ha. Lets see how NZ does in the RWC. Their best spot is the Chiefs in third position, but now they're up against the Stormers.

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RUGBY BLUES -- TerryK, Sun, 08 Mar 2015, 10:49:15 (197-85-132-8.cpt.mweb.co.za/

Ray - you should stick to supporting your own !!!

Bulls had an impressive win over Cheetahs 39 / 20. Great game with Handre Pollard looking good.

We beat the Sharks quite easily 29 / 13 - mostly as a result of a surprising superiority in the forwards. Carnival atmosphere at Newlands. Lambie also looking good so Hayneke is spoilt for choice.

Still don't feel good about the RWC - SA forwards desperately need intelligence, technical skills and retsraint to complement their physical strength. Not sure that Haneke understands that !!!

Argus Tour screwed up today in the aftermath of the fires earlier in the week. Record 42C recorded in CT at one stage.


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Seeing is believing.... -- Ray, Sun, 08 Mar 2015, 6:43:25 (cpe-76-175-194-36.socal.res.rr.com/

Yes Johnny B seeing is believing I just discovered a Shebeen here in Laguna Beach (a white stronghold), California, good ole USA. It called the Mozambique Steakhouse.
You can get prawns, boerewors and beer, and catch up on the local South African gossip. And the blonde blue-eyed Orange County single gals there are quite an improvement on a South African Shebeen.

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Seeing is believing -- johnny b (amazing), Thu, 05 Mar 2015, 13:52:59 (CPE-58-170-73-99.lns4.woo.bigpond.net.au/

The DJ/announcer on the radio this morning mentioned it here in the riverland and I did wonder what he was on about, I think the weasel didn't expect to catch a glide and I'm sure abandoned the food mission soon as it was airborne. Small birds will attack large raptors (eagles, hawks) and actually land on their backs pecking the hell out of the larger bird in mid flight. I'm sure Ray can quote on this.

The wattled plover here give us a hard time if the chicks are in the vicinity, I haven't been hit yet, but they have spurs on their wings and they (I am told) are what you have to watch out for when they dive bomb your head ! Wild life right in your back yard! Have a great weekend everyone.

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Six States Losing Millions In Revenue -- Bob, Thu, 05 Mar 2015, 1:46:05 (NoHost/

Six states, Alabama, Alaska, Hawaii, Mississippi, Nevada and Utah,are losing millions in state revenue as they don't have state-run lotteries.

Millions of dollars are crossing state lines to states with lotteries.

US lottery revenue in 2014 was $70bn. Powerball alone accounted for $4.81bn.

For comparison's sake, the combined 2014 gross revenue for professional American football, baseball and basketball was only $23.6bn.

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Volts and flying Weasels -- Ray, Wed, 04 Mar 2015, 16:11:44 (NoHost/

TerryK most amazing photo made the TV news stations here in Los Angeles yesterday. A weasel catching a ride on the back of a Green Woodpecker. The East London referred to is in Britain,as the Green Woodpecker is exclusively a European species, I saw mine in a park in Prague. The good news is that the Woodpecker managed to shake off the weasel. I think the weasel is going to confine itself to rabbits after this.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31711446">http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31711446</a>

Fascinating about the electric barbel Johnny, the alternator in my car is not so good anymore. Maybe I could carry a barbel in a tank in my trunk/boot with wires in it? I would have to remove the AC unit to put in a new alternator, a helluva job.

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Cape Town is burning -- johnny b (Sad sight), Wed, 04 Mar 2015, 12:33:30 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Terry K- I hope the fires are out when you arrive, not nice to see in the vineyards in the background alight, they must have had one hell of a heat wave and I guess it had to come. Scroll down to other photo's in the right margin, tortoise especially. sad.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.news24.com/Live/SouthAfrica/News/WATCH-Dramatic-aerial-footage-of-Cape-fires-destruction-20150303">http://www.news24.com/Live/SouthAfrica/News/WATCH-Dramatic-aerial-footage-of-Cape-fires-destruction-20150303</a>

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Charlie Carp -- johnny b (only dead ones), Wed, 04 Mar 2015, 12:20:01 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Oh we made sure we killed the buggers before tossing the carp on the banks, normally took a fillet off them to bait our yabbie nets. If I was back in Africa they would be on the smoker and sold in the serbubs to recoupe petrol money !Here they net them and a company called Charlie Carp makes fertilizer for the garden out of them.

I did get belted a few times with the good old electric barbel, like one big DC charge (not an AC tingle) and we always got better fishing after catching the buggers, they would chase all the other fish away where we had put down musses(burly) made from rapoko grass seed. That was before the days of Chibuku breweries. Hell that was a long time ago !! Never pick up a electric barbel after it has swollowed your tiger fish bait on a steel trace either. Lesson one!!!

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FISH & BIRDS -- TerryK, Wed, 04 Mar 2015, 10:31:22 (host86-155-104-158.range86-155.btcentralplus.com/

Ray - the string of four dams are on the lower slopes of the Paardeberg. Originally the only source of supply was run off from the berg via gulleys which are totally dry for most of the year. There are no side tributaries from adjacent farms. Water has been received for the past 30 years or so for the olives via a pump station and lengthy pipeline from the Berg River scheme. I would be surprised if a carp could make it through all that.

Interestingly the Berg water stabilised the dam levels, revolutionised the bird scenario and soon attracted substantial numbers of hammerkop, spoonbills and a good variety of waders / duck etc.

Sadly the "f...ing" Egyptian geese have taken over and have chased many of the other birds away.


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. -- Ray, Tue, 03 Mar 2015, 21:43:37 (NoHost/

TerryK those carp are everywhere they could have come in with any ditches draining into the dams. Yes barbel are known for taking strolls, I caught about 6-10 of them and put them in a sack on the train from Pelindaba to Pretoria. When I woke up, the aisles of the train were filled with wandering "barbers."
Sorry, I support the Sharks if they beat the Stormers that will help my Blue Bulls!

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FISH STORIES -- TerryK, Tue, 03 Mar 2015, 9:33:15 (host86-155-104-158.range86-155.btcentralplus.com/

Ray - different fish but I have been zapped by the dorsal spike on a smallish sea barbel - got me as I was removing my hook. I had a massively swollen hand for a week or so.

We took a delivery of Tilapia to control the algae which were proliferating in the farm dams near Paarl and clogging up the filters for the chicken water offtakes - worked a treat. A few years later we are catching 10kg plus carp never previously seen. Only explanation must be that they were delivered with the Tilapia fingerlings !!! Scary TV show a few weeks ago about the non-indigenous cat fish getting up and walking about in Florida. Caught a lot of those in Lake Okeechobee when I was working there.

In the UK after skiing - back to Cape Town to support the Stormers on Friday.

Safe my Mates

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. -- Ray, Mon, 02 Mar 2015, 15:54:59 (NoHost/

Johnny I can get it at BevMo. Next time I see a store it will make me remember to go and buy a bottle. A couple of years ago I tried my hand at making my own ginger beer. To ferment it I put it in bottles with a screw-on cap. A week later I was watching TV and all of a sudden heard what sounded like a gunshot going off in the laundry room. These gunshots continued for the next few days. I lost about one third of the bottles due to explosions.

It so sad when people destroy the native species of a country and replace it with non native species such as carp.

Has anyone ever been shocked by an electric barbel? What is it like?

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Carp -- Glen, Sun, 01 Mar 2015, 22:12:47 (d175-38-209-129.adl800.sa.optusnet.com.au/

It's illegal to chuck the carp back Johnny..could involve a hefty fine if spotted.

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ginger wine -- johnny b (stinking hot here), Sun, 01 Mar 2015, 11:32:34 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Ray- I have a heap of Ginger Wine compliments of work but I won't be drinking just yet as it isn't cold enough here, should see if you can find any Stones Ginger wine in the shops there. Good stuff to warm the body during the winter nights and get some fuzz around the ears !!! Never had the 'flu' last year.
Glen-Will check out your labels, do you do the Benifactor Cellar labels ? Read the small print on it !!

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murray cod -- johnny b (wishful fishing), Sun, 01 Mar 2015, 11:21:17 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Negative, caught almost everything else, catfish are making a come back, they thought they were extinct,they look just like electric barbel from the Zambezi. Hooked a few keeper Calap(sp?), good eating - not muddy, the carp are still too many ! landed up throwing them on the bank for the eagles/ospreys to feed as they take up space in the boat, on the last work fishing trip I caught the biggest, never bothered to weigh it but it was over 60cm long. Took a photo tho'. Caught a bucket of Yabbies too. Bloody hard to shell, you have to "aquire" a taste for them, stronger flavoured than prawns.

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Political Economy in Southern Rhodesia: -- Bob, Sat, 28 Feb 2015, 15:54:12 (NoHost/

You can download Political Economy in Southern Rhodesia: Land apportionment as a method for establishing a settlers' economy pdf book from here

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TrDpy7reXu3w_1XHmPD25Els2EDgCjcu9QaGxILNdR8/mobilebasic">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TrDpy7reXu3w_1XHmPD25Els2EDgCjcu9QaGxILNdR8/mobilebasic</a>

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Murray Cod -- Glen, Thu, 26 Feb 2015, 21:29:11 (d122-105-138-227.adl800.sa.optusnet.com.au/

They are still around Ray but not as prolific as years ago and people are encouraged to catch and release..

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. -- Ray, Thu, 26 Feb 2015, 15:17:36 (NoHost/

There are still Murray Cod around? I though they were all eaten up.

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Adelaide -- Glen, Tue, 24 Feb 2015, 21:58:36 (d175-38-208-4.adl800.sa.optusnet.com.au/

Hey Johnny - I'm in the printing game and worked for Collotype quite a few years ago.. You should know them - probably the largest wine label printers in the Aus.. A very good chance they do they labels for the estate you're with...
P.S Caught a Murray Cod yet or just the usual carp?

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. -- Ray, Tue, 24 Feb 2015, 17:13:08 (NoHost/

Good Johnny,
I am in Sunny Southern California but my feet feel like two blocks of ice here.
Much of my family is in Brisbane. Must get over there sometime, especially when the Blue Bulls or the Boks visit.
Somebody needs to pump the bulls with some enthusiasm.
"Enthusiasm? Whats that?" - I can hear Heyneke Meyer saying when he reads this.

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small planet, big country -- johnny b (Lost in Ozz), Tue, 24 Feb 2015, 13:17:57 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Gees Glen, I did get off course ! Even in this country there is double up's on names, Monash, Berri, Wellington, Waikerie, Salisbury. That's why they have to refer to numbers. Will have to look you up when next down there. Have vintage on at the moment so the highway is full of grape trucks heading to the crushers.

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Location -- Glen, Mon, 23 Feb 2015, 21:59:40 (d175-38-208-163.adl800.sa.optusnet.com.au/

Lol... I'm in Adelaide Johnny..

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location location -- johnny b (Technology), Mon, 23 Feb 2015, 14:18:48 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

Glen- This technology is amazing and pretty accurate and for Africa will have to give it another 20 years before they have it effective there. Looks like you have some serious shunting yards or these days container yards next to Parramatta Rd in NSW. Reckon plenty Rhodie containers came through there !

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Johnny -- Glen (Plooy), Sun, 22 Feb 2015, 23:04:52 (d175-38-204-49.adl800.sa.optusnet.com.au/

Hey Johnny - see that you're in the Riverlands... My postal code is 5025..

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How the mans' mind works -- johnny b (Testing the memory), Sun, 22 Feb 2015, 1:49:16 (CPE-1-123-6-138.sfl9.fli.bigpond.net.au/

That is an old one Ray, but never a truthful word said about how men are inclined to think.I was my richest before getting married !! Protitutes should get married to the right man they will get a steadier income !!!

The site is rather dead but twitches back to life now and again. I'm on the site as it is so f'n hot here (40 in the shade) and may as well look at the PC for recreational purposes today. Our postal code is 5342 if that means anything to curious minded people. Enjoy your Sunday, just gone 12pm here so the heat will be worse outside. Other parts of the country are being flooded, blown away and here we sit with a heat wave !!

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. -- Raymond (Schep), Sat, 21 Feb 2015, 18:55:23 (NoHost/

A man wanted to get married. He was having trouble
choosing among three likely candidates. He gives
each woman a present of $5,000 and watches to
see what they do with the
The first does a total makeover. She goes to a fancy
beauty salon, gets her hair done, new makeup;
buys several new outfits and dresses up very
nicely for the man. She tells him that she has
done this to be more attractive for him because
she loves him so much.
The man was

The second goes shopping to buy the man gifts. She
gets him a new set of golf clubs, some new
gizmos for his computer, and some expensive
clothes. As she presents these gifts, she tells
him that she has spent all the money on him
because she loves him so much.
the man is

The third invests the money in the stock market She
earns several times the $5,000. She gives him
back his $5,000 and reinvests the remainder in a
joint account. She tells him that she wants to
save for their future because she loves him so
the man was

The man thought for a long time about what each
woman had done with the money he'd given

Then he married the one with the biggest

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Nenagh says farewell to vet Jack Powell, aged 101 -- Bob, Sat, 14 Feb 2015, 4:35:13 (NoHost/

Jack Powell was born in 1913 and educated first in Toomevara National School before spending a year in Ballymackey Church of Ireland Diocesan School and had his second level education at a boarding school in Sligo.

He attended veterinary college in Dublin and graduated in 1936. Mr Powell practised first in England where he took a post with the British Ministry for Agriculture during the 1937 Foot and Mouth epidemic. He married his late wife, Sheila, in 1943, the same year he joined the Canadian Air Force, serving as a flying instructor during WWII.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://tipperarystar.ie/news/local-news/nenagh-says-farewell-to-vet-jack-powell-aged-101-1-6571986">http://tipperarystar.ie/news/local-news/nenagh-says-farewell-to-vet-jack-powell-aged-101-1-6571986</a>

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Looking for Chris Cumming and family and Vets -- Chris Newport (In hope and remberance), Tue, 10 Feb 2015, 20:12:50 (cpe-172-249-88-159.socal.res.rr.com/

Looking for Chris and vets to hang with and talk about the great passions of life; women war and weapons. I'm an American in L .A.. You are all gallant souls who aren't forgotten by the people who matter.

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Looking for the Chambers Twins of Wankie -- John Morgan (Help), Sun, 08 Feb 2015, 14:39:41 (vc-nat-gp-n-41-13-116-62.umts.vodacom.co.za/

We lived in Wankie from about 1953 to 1957. The Chamber twins were in my class at Wankie Junior school. I was told they maybe in Australia.
I am also looking for Lorraine and Gail De Lorme also from Wankie.

Cheers John Morgan

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. -- Ray, Tue, 03 Feb 2015, 15:52:43 (NoHost/

A good man, he is against that stupid carbon tax, and a Catholic that thinks that abortion is murder. I like him, but his anti-abortion stance would be suicidal here in the USA with their right to choice attitude. Time to get out our "Say Thank You! Your mother chose Life" bumper stickers here in the USA.

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Tony -- Bob, Fri, 30 Jan 2015, 4:48:07 (NoHost/

Tony Abbott’s leadership is currently under scrutiny from the public. We want to know what you think:
Do you want Tony Abbott to lead the coalition to the next election?

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.2gb.com/poll/leadership-poll">http://www.2gb.com/poll/leadership-poll</a>

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. -- Ray, Thu, 29 Jan 2015, 15:34:11 (NoHost/

Yeah, Mugape will still be alive in 2050

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Africa in 2050: enlist as a driver of change now -- Bob, Wed, 28 Jan 2015, 22:13:49 (NoHost/

WHAT will Africa be like in 2050 when we complete the first half of this century dubbed the African century? Whose business is it or should be to shape Africa’s future?

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.newzimbabwe.com/columns/columns.aspx?newsID=4233">http://www.newzimbabwe.com/columns/columns.aspx?newsID=4233</a>

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. -- Ray, Tue, 27 Jan 2015, 15:48:07 (NoHost/

Carl sorry for posting this here but I searched my e-mail and could not find an address for you.
Carl this is really none of my business but I do like to be helpful. Posting threatening messages on the internet about her mother will not help you find Nicole. You cannot blame her mother for taking her from Zim, you should actually thank her. If you post a message of forgiveness and state that you merely want loving communications, you may have much more luck. With the internet the way it is today, and if you have a good reconciliation attitude, I can almost guarantee you will have communication. But any threats and you have lost her.

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. -- Ray, Tue, 27 Jan 2015, 15:31:07 (NoHost/

Carl, there is a Nicole Betch on facebook. Seems to be a nurse. Did not look for Nicole Schmidt, there are probably hundreds.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.facebook.com/nicole.betch">https://www.facebook.com/nicole.betch</a>

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Nicole Schmidt (aka) Nicole Betch -- Carl Schmidt, Tue, 27 Jan 2015, 14:15:58 (197-88-8-254.dsl.mweb.co.za/

Today 27 years ago 27/01/1988 my daughter Nicole Schmidt (aka) Nicole Betch was born.

This is my message to my estranged daughter of some 26 years:-

Hi Nicole, I hope you have a wonderful Birthday, a day filled with much love and happiness. There is not one day that goes by with-out me ever having you in my thoughts. I would also like you to know that I have never ever not loved you. I'm just so sorry that things could not have been different, but hope and pray that that will... change one day.
All my Love
(Dad) Carl Schmidt

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Watch out. Pig Farmers. -- Ray, Wed, 21 Jan 2015, 21:29:37 (NoHost/

Van der Merwe was in the bar and he was very upset. He had a bad divorce and his wife got most of his money. The worst of all was the wife's lawyer hit it off with his wife and they got together and married. Not only did Van der Merwe have to pay the lawyers' legal costs but now he also has access to all the money his ex-wife got.
"That darned pig of an lawyer, the blerrie swine!" he kept on saying us he downed one Klippies after another. "That filthy stinking useless pig!" All of a sudden the barman came up to him and said, "I wish to advise you to be very careful what you say in this bar, some people here might hear you."
"What! Are there lawyers here?"
"Oh no, but there are pig famers here".

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r -- Ray, Tue, 20 Jan 2015, 19:32:01 (NoHost/

In the 1960s there was a US TV game show called Hollywood Squares; but the real power of the show was the one liners that the stars answered the question with before giving their real answer. Some of the best responses are below!
Q. Do female frogs croak?
A. Paul Lynde: If you hold their little heads under water long enough.
Q. If you're going to make a parachute jump, at least how high should you be ?
A. Charley Weaver: Three days of steady drinking should do it.
Q. Paul, what is a good reason for pounding meat?
A. Paul Lynde: Loneliness!
(The audience laughed so long and so hard it took up almost 15 minutes of the show!)
Q. True or False, a pea can last as long as 5,000 years.
A. George Gobel: Boy, it sure seems that way sometimes.
Q. You've been having trouble going to sleep. Are you probably a man or a woman?
A. Don Knotts: That's what's been keeping me awake.
Q. According to Cosmopolitan, if you meet a stranger at a party and you think that he is attractive, is it okay to come out and ask him if he's married?
A. Rose Marie: No. Wait until morning.
Q. Which of your five senses tends to diminish as you get older?
A. Charley Weaver: My sense of decency.
Q. In Hawaiian, does it take more than three words to say 'I Love You'?
A. Vincent Price: No, you can say it with a pineapple and a twenty.
Q. What are 'Do It,' 'I Can Help,' and 'I Can't Get Enough'?
A. George Gobel: I don't know, but it's coming from the next apartment.
Q. As you grow older, do you tend to gesture more or less with your hands while talking?
A. Rose Marie: You ask me one more growing old question Peter, and I'll give you a gesture you'll never forget.
Q. Paul, why do Hell's Angels wear leather?
A. Paul Lynde: Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.
Q. Charley, you've just decided to grow strawberries. Are you going to get any during the first year?
A. Charley Weaver: Of course not, I'm too busy growing strawberries.
Q. In bowling, what's a perfect score?
A. Rose Marie: Ralph, the pin boy.
Q. It is considered in bad taste to discuss two subjects at Nudist camps. One is politics, what is the other?
A. Paul Lynde: Tape measures.
Q. During a tornado, are you safer in the bedroom or in the closet?
A. Rose Marie: Unfortunately Peter, I'm always safe in the bedroom.
Q. Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls?
A. Marty Allen: Only after lights out.
Q. When you pat a dog on its head he will wag his tail. What will a goose do?
A. Paul Lynde: Goose you.
Q. If you were pregnant for two years, what would you give birth to?
A. Paul Lynde: Whatever it is, it would never be afraid of the dark.
Q. According to Ann Landers, is there anything wrong with getting into the habit of kissing a lot of people?
A. Charley Weaver: It got me out of the army.
Q. It is the most abused and neglected part of your body, what is it?
A. Paul Lynde: Mine may be abused, but it certainly isn't neglected.
Q. Back in the old days, when Great Grandpa put horseradish on his head, what was he trying to do?
A. George Gobel: Get it in his mouth.
Q. Who stays pregnant for a longer period of time, your wife or your elephant?
A. Paul Lynde: Who told you about my elephant?
Q. When a couple have a baby, who is responsible for its sex?
A. Charley Weaver: I'll lend him the car, the rest is up to him .
Q. Jackie Gleason recently revealed that he firmly believes in them and has actually seen them on at least two occasions. What are they?
A. Charley Weaver: His feet.
Q. According to Ann Landers, what are two things you should never do in bed?
A. Paul Lynde: Point and laugh.

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. -- ., Wed, 14 Jan 2015, 15:11:08 (NoHost/

Okay Teju Cole, cartoonists use pens to make their point. Terrorists use guns to make their point. Which would you prefer?

1. Cartoon Number one.
Two terrorists about to enter the offices of cartoonists, one saying; "Watch out! They have pens!!"

2. Cartoon Number two. Two terrorists with smoking gun standing over body of cartoonist, saying; "He drew first!"

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Charlie Hebdo cartoons similar to when Irish were seen as apes -- Je ne suis pas Charlie!, Tue, 13 Jan 2015, 0:55:43 (NoHost/

Teju Cole writing in New Yorker this week about Charlie Hebdo stated it best about the forces at play in the magazine at the center of the dreadful massacre in France.

Is it a satirical magazine that should be allowed print whatever it likes or did it shade into blatant racism in recent times?

Cole wrote: ”In recent years the magazine has gone specifically for racist and Islamophobic provocations, and its numerous anti-Islam images have been inventively perverse, featuring hook-nosed Arabs, bullet-ridden Korans, variations on the theme of sodomy, and mockery of the victims of a massacre.”

“It is not always easy to see the difference between a certain witty dissent from religion and a bullyingly racist agenda, but it is necessary to try.”

It is indeed. In the 19th century, cartoons depicting the Irish as apes were very popular in Britain and the US.

One cartoonist Thomas Nast made much of his reputation displaying the Irish as gross simian caricatures in Harper’s Weekly and urging that immigrants from Ireland be sent back home

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/Charlie-Hebdo-cartoons-similar-to-when-Irish-were-seen-as-apes-.html">http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/Charlie-Hebdo-cartoons-similar-to-when-Irish-were-seen-as-apes-.html</a>

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. -- Ray, Mon, 12 Jan 2015, 15:49:54 (NoHost/

Thank You Bob. But the site is primarily a request for donations. For $25 you get the right to have a 40 character tweet sent back to Earth. They will not get me on this one.
There is no cellphone signal on the moon.
(Or is there???)
Suggested tweet: "Ok so now, Umkhosi, how the hell do we get back to earth?"

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It’s time to show the world what Africa can do! -- Bob, Sat, 10 Jan 2015, 21:49:52 (NoHost/


It’s time to show the world what Africa can do!

It’s time to inspire the minds and dreams of the “youngest” continent on Earth (50% – 19 or younger!)

It’s time to send African ingenuity to the Moon and provide future generations a reminder that we will always be there!

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://africa2moon.developspacesa.org">http://africa2moon.developspacesa.org</a>

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Boob -- Scripsi, Sat, 10 Jan 2015, 4:11:36 (mail82.anonymouse.org/

So what? They keep your ass safe, warm and dry, litl bobbie-lobbie.

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Why the Anglosphere needs to be stopped -- Bob, Sat, 10 Jan 2015, 0:09:38 (NoHost/

The US, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are the five countries of the Anglosphere. Post World War II they are so closely allied and their intelligence networks so well integrated that you could say the Anglosphere is a single country spread across five separate territories.
It is well known that their militaries are well synced but did you know that all three US Army Corps have Canadian deputy commanders? Or that citizens of Anglo nations serve as important exchange or liaison officers with top US commands?

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2014/09/07/why_the_anglosphere_needs_to_be_stopped_38119.html">http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2014/09/07/why_the_anglosphere_needs_to_be_stopped_38119.html</a>

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. -- Ray, Wed, 07 Jan 2015, 16:10:27 (NoHost/

Everyone seems to be in such a hurry to scream 'racism' these days.

A customer asked, "In what aisle could I find the Polish sausage?"

The clerk asks, "Are you Polish?"

The guy, clearly offended, says, "Yes I am. But let me ask you something.

"If I had asked for Italian sausage, would you ask me if I was Italian?

"Or if I had asked for German Bratwurst, would you ask me if I was German?

"Or if I asked for a kosher hot dog would you ask me if I was Jewish?

"Or if I had asked for a Taco, would you ask if I was Mexican?

"Or if I asked for some Irish whiskey, would you ask if I was Irish?"

The clerk says, "No, I probably wouldn't."

The guy says, "Because I asked for Polish sausage, why did you ask me if I'm Polish?"

The clerk replied, "Because you're in Home Depot..."

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Is African sovereignty more important than legitimate democracy? -- Bob, Wed, 07 Jan 2015, 14:11:06 (NoHost/

Political changes in Burkina Faso make a compelling reason to revisit the dynamics involved in Africa's international relations and diplomacy.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://mg.co.za/article/2014-12-31-is-african-sovereignty-more-important-than-legitimate-democracy">http://mg.co.za/article/2014-12-31-is-african-sovereignty-more-important-than-legitimate-democracy</a>

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Zimbabwe: China Willing to Elevate Ties With Zimbabwe to Higher Level - VP -- Bob, Tue, 06 Jan 2015, 10:33:35 (NoHost/

Beijing — China is willing to work with Zimbabwe to lift bilateral friendly relations to a higher level so as to bring more benefits to both peoples, Chinese Vice President Li Yuanchao has said.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://allafrica.com/stories/201412300636.html">http://allafrica.com/stories/201412300636.html</a>

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Map of Zimbabwe -- bob, Tue, 06 Jan 2015, 2:32:57 (NoHost/

Administrative Map of Zimbabwe

Zimbabwe is divided into 8 provinces and 2 cities with provincial status:
(province capitals in parentheses)
Bulawayo, the second largest city in Zim has procincial status, same as the capital Harare.

Manicaland (Mutare), Mashonaland Central (Bindura), Mashonaland East (Marondera), Mashonaland West (Chinhoyi), Masvingo Province, (Masvingo), Matabeleland North (Lupane), Matabeleland South (Gwanda), and Midlands Province (Gweru)

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/zimbabwe_map.htm">http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/zimbabwe_map.htm</a>

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UK Confidential -- Barry, Tue, 30 Dec 2014, 8:23:29 (NoHost/


Martha Kearney, in conversation with former government ministers, reveals the truth behind the headlines of previously secret government files that have been released to the public.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00xj3rw">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00xj3rw</a>

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