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Canada -- Jo Pete, Thu, 03 Sep 2009, 7:33:26 (vc-41-29-228-202.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.228.202)
Yo BT. Canada courts ruling has caused some kak in SA. Govt indignant.
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South African's refugee case causes backlash against ‘racist' Canada -- Bob, Thu, 03 Sep 2009, 6:37:01 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
The refugee board member, William Davis, ruled that South Africa had failed to protect its white citizens from robberies and muggings, which he described as the “persecution” of whites by “African South Africans.”
Brandon Huntley, a 31-year-old South African who stayed illegally in Canada in 2006, after first arriving on a work permit as a carnival attendant, was awarded refugee status after complaining that he was mugged and stabbed in seven attempted robberies in South Africa. He said he was called a “white dog” and a “settler” during these attacks, although he did not report any of the attacks to the police because he “did not trust them.”
Mr. Davis said in his ruling that Mr. Huntley would “stand out like a sore thumb” in any part of South Africa because of his colour. He said Mr. Huntley had given “convincing proof” of the government's “inability or unwillingness to protect him.” He added that Mr. Huntley would be unable to find a job in South Africa because of affirmative action in favour of blacks.
Mr. Davis ruled that Mr. Huntley had been attacked six or seven times “because of the colour of his skin” and had a legitimate fear of persecution. He said Mr. Huntley had scars on his body to prove the attacks.
more
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/south-africans-refugee-case-causes-backlash-against-racist-canada/article1272553/
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The land of something now -- Jo Pete, Wed, 02 Sep 2009, 12:07:08 (41-208-48-160.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.160)
.Yo BT. I can honestly state that I have never heard of this Benn poephol. I only know okes like Valentino Rossi, Giancarlo Fisichella, John Smit John Daly. I have also heard vague mention of that Matt Giteau arsehole.
So Dawie what you saying is that if you want a pomp Zim is not the place to go. Howcome you spend so much time there?
Times have changed from when Zambians were calling Zim the land of nothing.
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The New SA Flag - The whole story -- Pam, Wed, 02 Sep 2009, 8:37:14 (d24-150-28-95.home.cgocable.net/24.150.28.95)
The colours symbolise the following:
Red is for lovely red sunsets (caused by the smog?);
Green reflects the thriving agricultural sector;
Blue show the the oceans on either side of the country;
Black is for the Bantu populations;
White is for those horrible colonialists who settled and developed the country from the veld;
Yellow is the warning on the elctric fences to keep the blacks out of the crops that grow so well.
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The New SA Flag - The whole story -- Pam, Wed, 02 Sep 2009, 8:34:19 (d24-150-28-95.home.cgocable.net/24.150.28.95)
The coulours symbolise he following:
Red is for lovely red sunsets (caused by the smog?);
Green reflects the thriving agricultural sector;
Blue show the the oceans on either side of the country;
Black is for the Bantu populations;
White is for those horrible colonialists who settled and developed the country from the veld;
Yellow is the warning on the elctric fences to keep the blacks out of the crops that grow so well.
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White pole -- Jimbo, Wed, 02 Sep 2009, 4:32:26 (220-253-11-136.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.11.136)
Ray you forgot the white pole to keep the whole lot up.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 01 Sep 2009, 17:02:08 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Finally got the secret meaning of the South african Flag. The green is for the mielielands, and the yellow is the electric fence that keeps the blacks from the mielielands.
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TONY BENNDOVER -- BOB, Tue, 01 Sep 2009, 7:47:47 (mk-airlines-rtr-e1.hiway.co.uk/195.12.0.225)
jaaslike jo pete, this is the same prick that wanked himself off when Magabe got into power........pommie arsehole of note.....
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tony benn -- dawie, Mon, 31 Aug 2009, 6:51:52 (vc-41-28-18-34.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.28.18.34)
jaaslike jo pete you dont know who tony benn is, i think bobs articals are informative and i rush in the mornings to read them cant wait chinas. a few points tho zim is moveing forward but slowly the shops are full the whites are finding it difficult to find things to moan about, but they are all working hard at it. the last moan i had was the price of everything the lack of water power fuel the clour of the zim sky. they are by far the biggest moaners in the world, they going to have a lot of free time now with things comeing up. the difference between a zim white or black and a 747 is the plane stops wineing at jan smuts airport
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Zimbabwe Rising? -- Bob, Mon, 31 Aug 2009, 6:18:09 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
It has been six months since arch-rivals Morgan Tsvangirai and Robert Mugabe were brought together to form Zimbabwe's unity government. So how is this awkward shotgun marriage actually working?
This week Ginny Stein returns to Zimbabwe and finds some promising signs of a new start.
The unity government scrapped Zimbabwe's worthless currency, replacing it with the US dollar and the South African rand, which has meant that many shops and markets have finally been able to restock, and people once again have access to the necessities.
With government agencies still struggling to fund basic services, optimistic volunteers are coming together to help clean up rubbish and stem the spread of cholera.
But Ginny finds the changes don't run deep.
President Robert Mugabe retains control over the security forces, the legal system and the media, and there are still many obstacles to Zimbabwe's recovery.
As frustration grows, many are quickly losing faith in the promise of the unity government.
WATCH - TRANSCRIPT - COMMENTS (3)
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/about/id/600142/n/Zimbabwe-Rising
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MJ -- maggi, Sat, 29 Aug 2009, 22:36:32 (ppp121-44-95-249.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.95.249)
i have had a guts full of the story of Michael Jackson, quite bluntly he does not even warrent mention on this forum. thank you
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Van Der Merwe in the UK -- Pam (Van Der Merwe in the UK), Sat, 29 Aug 2009, 20:13:42 (d24-150-28-95.home.cgocable.net/24.150.28.95)
Van Der Merwe decides to visit the UK.
There he meets a local Lord who invites him to his estate to participate in a fox hunt the following weekend.
After the hunt the group returns to the mansion for drinks, followed by supper.
The Master of the Hunt stops to talk to Van and says "It is customary when you see the fox to call 'Tally Ho' and not 'Daar gaan die fokken jakkals'".
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..... -- Ray, Fri, 28 Aug 2009, 20:20:48 (adsl-75-56-202-29.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.202.29)
Breaking news from Hollywood... coroner finding that Jacko's death is yes!!! a homocide. He died of an overdoae of propofolol. But the doctor's lawyers will argue that "homo" cide means Jacko was responsible...
aarhhg forget it...
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That idiot Bob -- Jo Pete, Fri, 28 Aug 2009, 16:18:26 (vc-41-26-71-9.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.26.71.9)
Yo BT. I am totally fascinated by this debate. I hope that SABC broadcast it live. BTW What the hell is the debate about? Who is Tony Benn?? I give up.
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Tony Benn will be on' Any Questions?' this evening. -- Bob, Fri, 28 Aug 2009, 4:11:52 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
You can listen live online at 8pm UK time, or download at your pleasure. He is always interesting!
Jonathan Dimbleby chairs the topical debate from Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire. The panellists are former Conservative deputy leader Lord Heseltine, former Labour cabinet minister Tony Benn, columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Professor Colin Mayer, Dean of Oxford University's Saïd Business School.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00m74rr
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Harold Macmillan: a biography -- Bob, Thu, 27 Aug 2009, 5:06:52 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Harold Macmillan was the Conservative Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1957 to 1963. He was Chancellor of the Exchequer in 1956 during the Suez Crisis, which involved a military attack on Egypt by Britain, France and Israel in response to Egypt's decision to nationalize the Suez Canal.
On 6th November 1956 Macmillan addressed a meeting of the British Cabinet and according to his memoirs, informed his colleagues that dire financial events had occurred because of the Suez military action.
But Charles Williams, author of a recent biography, says serious doubts can be raised about Macmillan's account.
download audio
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/stories/2009/2662088.htm
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. -- Hanks lesbina Sister, Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 23:02:21 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Scramble the letters:
Caster Semenya = Yes a secret man
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. -- Ray, Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 18:39:47 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
I hear Hank's other brother, who lives in Brakpan, invented the toothbrush. That's why it is not called the teethbrush.
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distrik8.5 -- Hank's other brother Hank, Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 14:55:08 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Maybe the "voices" heard by himself were actually intended for him, seeing as no-one else could verstaan them?
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airlines -- imran khalid khan (happy), Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 11:08:09 (NoHost/116.71.30.8)
http://ikairlines.blogspot.com/
This site basically indicates and gives information about the world wide airlines and there history of jet planes please do visit this web site its really intresting.
Thanks,
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airlines -- imran khalid khan (happy), Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 10:44:43 (NoHost/116.71.30.8)
http://ikairlines.blogspot.com/
This site basically indicates and gives information about the world wide airlines and there history of jet planes please do visit this web site its really intresting.
Thanks,
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airlines -- imran khalid khan (happy), Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 7:40:39 (NoHost/116.71.25.148)
This site is specially designed about relevant information about airlines and there history please do visit at http://ikairlines.blogspot.com/ and dont forget to pass the comments.
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movie at the robots already -- dawie, Wed, 26 Aug 2009, 6:38:04 (vc-41-28-87-35.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.28.87.35)
you can buy a pirate copy at the robots already for half price, not seen it tho. had to laugh a spokesman for this black runner said they were cock sure she was a female stupid idiot. bobs sick his prostrate cancer is bad i hear, his back in zim to meet zuma today i think zuma is going to put him under pressure today.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 25 Aug 2009, 15:51:13 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Great Video.. See how Dawie reposseses his stolen bakkie with the help of Pete.
http://www.ideate.co.za/2009/07/15/south-africa-is-hard-core-live-action-police-pursuit-video/
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. -- Ray, Mon, 24 Aug 2009, 17:32:07 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
In the movie District 8 I could hear voices in the background of the studio saying "Jou fo***n doos" coming in on the soundtrack.. this ripe language was lost on the USA audiences .. and the censors...
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. -- ray, Mon, 24 Aug 2009, 17:21:13 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Hey Pete, I birded the place. Its near Brits. Fantastic birds, saw a Broad-billed Roller there.
I had to be careful with ID though, can easily be confused with a species at Sun City trying to pass counterfeit money.
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Distrik 8 -- Ray, Mon, 24 Aug 2009, 17:12:28 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
wow! What a movie. If SA can make movies like this... move over Hollywood.
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Dept Of Useless Information -- Ray, Mon, 24 Aug 2009, 15:39:52 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Many people are of the opinion that Sutherland is the coldest place in South Africa and as a consequence, some media reports have indicated that the coldest temperature ever recorded in South Africa is -16°C. This is not the case. In actual fact, the coldest temperature ever recorded in South Africa at a weather station operated by the South African Weather Service is -18.6°C at Buffelsfontein, which is in the Molteno district of the Eastern Cape.
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John Edmonds -- Jo Pete, Sun, 23 Aug 2009, 17:52:12 (vc-41-27-174-16.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.174.16)
Yo BT. Just had a great weekend at Kunkuru, John Edmonds' game farm near Warmbaths. Beautiful place. Held a Rhodie weekend which included a great concert last night. Many old Rhodies present, including Chas Lotter. Only thing is that we had to share our lodge with some woosie blue jobs.
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Cold is what ?? -- Nick, Sat, 22 Aug 2009, 3:17:13 (c-71-203-115-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/71.203.115.141)
So what was the coldest temperature ever recorded in SA ? It can't be "Buffelsfontein"
. -- Dept Of Useles Information, Thu, 20 Aug 2009, 15:44:03 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
The hottest temperature ever recorded in South Africa is Dunbrody at 50 C, near Port Elizabeth.
The coldest temperature ever recorded in South Africa, is Buffelsfontien near Molteno north of East London.
These two place are about 120 km away from each other.
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dept useless info -- dawie, Fri, 21 Aug 2009, 7:58:22 (vc-41-30-56-65.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.56.65)
most people killed by one bolt lightening 38 in a cooking hut in motoko zim 1981, a firm effort is being done to beat it this summer. sponsors are sort after.
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Dept of Useless -- Arbie, Thu, 20 Aug 2009, 23:13:29 (NoHost/212.167.5.6)
Fever
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. -- Dept Of Useles Information, Thu, 20 Aug 2009, 15:44:03 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
The hottest temperature ever recorded in South Africa is Dunbrody at 50 C, near Port Elizabeth.
The coldest temperature ever recorded in South Africa, is Buffelsfontien near Molteno north of East London.
These two place are about 120 km away from each other.
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dawie in zim -- dawie, Wed, 19 Aug 2009, 7:03:35 (vc-41-27-199-219.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.199.219)
well another interesting trip to zim. banks are offering the clients money again for capital equiment etc. road blocks every 100 km and the speed traps are working again.property market slow and loads of houses for sale now as its easy to take the money out. a bit of a get out of jail for people who want to get out with there money now. changeing money at the border easy to do on the car hood 8.5 to the rand. one can cross into rsa with a zim police stamp on an a4 scrap pad so they are streaming in there.where the trees were cut down two years back after the land grab they are growing back and the so called farm invaders huts are gone but dont realy know where to.maybe rsa.not many whites at the border hey darn hard to get in as they mess you around flying for the uninformed is better dawie
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. -- Joker, Tue, 18 Aug 2009, 16:16:50 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Three women are in a gym locker room dressing up to play racquetball,
Suddenly, a guy runs through the room wearing nothing but a bag over his head and passes the three women.
He passes the first woman, who looks down at his crotch. "He's not my husband," she says.
He passes by the second woman, who also looks down at his crotch.
"He's not my husband either." She says, also not recognizing the unit.
He passes by the third woman, who also looks down as he runs by her.
She says: "I see he's not a member of this club either."
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Thanks, Ray... -- fever, Sat, 15 Aug 2009, 1:44:11 (t09-08.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.151)
Thanks, Ray. It' s a name used by someone I know. I may have to call on your translation skills occasionally.
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Greg Collins -- Dave, Fri, 14 Aug 2009, 23:02:09 (NoHost/129.230.252.1)
Does anyone know the whereabouts of Greg Collins commonly known as Bones? He was ex RLI
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. -- ray, Fri, 14 Aug 2009, 6:44:13 (adsl-75-56-202-29.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.202.29)
Hi Fever, the word "Besoeker" is most definitely an Afrikaans word, and it means Visitor. Why do you ask?
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Ray... -- fever, Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 22:10:24 (t04-15.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.78)
I like that one a lot!
Can you tell me if "Besoeker" is an Afriks word,and if so, what does it mean in general? Just asking.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 16:26:56 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Newspaper letter sent to me by Ann...
Thank You! Thank You..
I left my house wide open, windows open, the gates open, put up two flagpoles one had the old Vierkleur flag and the other had the old South African flag and went on vacation to lie on the South Coast beach for 3 weeks. When I came back everything was untouched. The local police, the National Security and the Scorpions had my house under surveillance 24 hours a day.
Thank You, Thank You.
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Hilary -- Roger, Wed, 12 Aug 2009, 22:38:13 (222-152-254-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.254.204)
HILLARY SHOVES CIGAR INTO AFRICAN STUDENT
US SECRETARY of state Hillary Clinton has finally answered the Congolese student who wanted to know her husband's opinions, by shoving a large cigar up his backside.
'Would you like me to say it again?'
Following a question and answer session in Kinshasa, Mrs Clinton went to the home of the student where two secret service bodyguards handcuffed him and bent him over a table.
Removing a nine-inch long Montecristo cigar from her purse, Mrs Clinton said: "Here's what my husband thinks about China's multi-billion dollar loan offer to the Congo."
Inserting it forcefully into the student's rear passage, she continued: "I suppose you could say that I'm 'channeling' my husband - and you - as we speak. How does that feel?"
Mrs Clinton added: "My husband might also say, 'I have not been in the White House for eight and a half years, whereas my strong, intelligent wife is not only the secretary of state but also - by the way - came within a whisker of being the Democratic candidate for President of the United States'. You fucking prick."
Mrs Clinton then smacked the student on the back of the head and left him with his trousers down and approximately half an inch of the cigar still protruding from his quivering buttocks.
The secretary of state said later: "In case anyone else is wondering, my husband's views on diplomacy and international relations tend to be limited to the quality of the local 'poon-tang'.
"I have no doubt that when I get back to Washington he will be desperate to know whether Congolese women are up for it and whether the hotel I was staying at offered hot, pay-per-view African skin-flicks."
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. -- Bob, Wed, 12 Aug 2009, 18:24:08 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Kurtz notes that Obama was able to steer millions to other Alinsky style community groups. Obama worked well with the corrupt Chicago Democratic political machine and succeeded in getting all real opponents removed from the ballot in his subsequent runs for office. Obama’s rise politically is exactly the point of what he was trying to do. The simple fact that the Chicago students in whose name Obama gave millions to leftist groups saw no benefit from that money is irrelevant to Obama, or any other true believer. Their goal is not raising people out of poverty, it is using poverty to gain power through elections. They aim not to improve the educational system in this country (most of which is run by other members of the movement), but to keep the educational system in chaos until they can use the rage of the millions of uneducated to gain power.
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Change in Bobland... -- fever, Wed, 12 Aug 2009, 16:17:06 (t01-04.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.19)
So there are some changes for the better out there. Good to hear, but I would say it's going to be just a crack-whore after a face-lift going begging for hand-outs from the very people they slagged off for years. They were left a running economy, independant, which we could have allowed them to destroy through their war, or destroy on our way out. Then they may have been due some sympathy. When they string Bob and the top three tiers of Zanu-PF up from the street lights of the main drags of every town in Mashonaland, maybe then.
Now let's sit back and watch America bite the dust under Bambi, the "Community Organiser."
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. -- Ray, Wed, 12 Aug 2009, 15:09:57 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Fever, Maybe a few still, but north of Bulawayo.
Bob he is still a crackpot as cracked as an egg run over by a truck.
This weekend Belmont Shore Rugby Club is going to compete for national champion, on an island in San Francisco Bay. They are second seed.
They are gonna win!
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Anglican call - compensate aborigines or leave -- Bob, Wed, 12 Aug 2009, 11:18:54 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
White members of the Anglican Church might be interested to hear the views from the pulpit of their theological leaders.
Reverend Dr Peter Adams is the principal of Ridley College, the main Anglican theological college in Victoria. The College trains Anglican priests.
He’s just delivered the NSW Baptist Union’s annual lecture. - Read the full speech here
He said that all non-Aboriginal Australians should leave the country if the indigenous people want them to.
If you and I stay, we should have to provide whatever compensation the indigenous people think is appropriate.
This bloke is not some crackpot. He’s the head of one of our country’s major church institutions, training Anglican priests. He’d have massive influence on what’s said in the country’s pulpits, the sermons every Sunday.
http://www.4bc.com.au/blogs/michael-smith-blog/anglican-call--compensate-aborigines-or-leave/20090811-egfi.html
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Deep Water. -- fever, Tue, 11 Aug 2009, 17:23:07 (t04-02.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.65)
Ray, that would have to have been Joe-Pete, I know he's a swimmer.
Dawie, any real elephants and lions left there?
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. -- Ray, Tue, 11 Aug 2009, 16:52:03 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Dawie I remember the road, near Bubi, in 1972 was flooded for almost a mile I had to send someone to wade in front of the car to determine if it was not to deep to drive.
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good rugby / back from zim -- dawie, Tue, 11 Aug 2009, 6:47:03 (vc-41-27-81-134.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.81.134)
good game thought the aussies were unlucky to loose by so much. was in zim last week and going up again today no flights on any airline fully booked so drove up a hell run of note loads of trucks and the roads not too bad but the edges are worn and passing on coming traffic danger hey. the lion and elephant at bubi still good was full thursday so things improveing and the local whites have a change of heart. harare center is a buzz with people and fuel is not a problem. so i guess you all are saying ja it wont change but i think there is a chance now for the people left behind. beit bridge is still a night mare if you dont know whats happening. road blocks about ten from beit bridge to harare but they are polite and ask only for the car papers etc.anyway for those far away and interested. iam back today trying to miss goats houts and besuidenhout on the masvingo road.
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AIDS ravages 1,000 people per day -- Bob, Tue, 11 Aug 2009, 5:22:23 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Father Patrick Ryan, the vice president for University Mission and Ministry at Fordham University, spent 26 years working as a teacher and academic administrator in West Africa and joins Martin Savidge to discuss the effectiveness of abstinence in battling HIV, Africa’s growing Catholic population and significance of the pope’s trip.
For more on the AIDS crisis in Africa, see the Worldfocus signature story: AIDS ravages 1,000 people per day in South Africa.
more
http://worldfocus.org/blog/2009/03/17/pope-claims-condoms-worsen-aids-crisis-in-africa/4462/
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. -- Ray, Mon, 10 Aug 2009, 17:53:33 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Imran Kahlid Kahn. You are lost.
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Help -- imac, Sun, 09 Aug 2009, 12:26:05 (dsl-145-86-08.telkomadsl.co.za/41.145.86.8)
Hi All! Looking for info on Victor or Beatrice Miles. They lived in Bulawayo in late '60s early '70s and had daughters April,Wendy and Angela. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Pies -- Jimbo, Sun, 09 Aug 2009, 2:56:36 (220.253-228-66.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.228.66)
Funa Zonke, Mitchells Pies, I used to make a special trip down to Umtali just to buy them. They are called Scotch Pies or a better description Mutton Pies, they are a Scottish delicacy. I know where to get them in Aus, but none come even close to Mitchells, and I haven't got a recipe. The son of the guy who owned Mitchell's lives here where I am, but he doesn't make the pies. Dammit!!
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'Any Question' comes from Margate this week! -- Bob, Sat, 08 Aug 2009, 4:32:14 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Eddie Mair chairs the topical debate in Margate. The panellists are writer Charles Moore, British Medical Association chairman Hamish Meldrum, commentator and chief executive of the Index on Censorship John Kampfner and chair of the Health and Safety Executive, Judith Hackitt CBE.
Listen (Duration: 50 minutes)
Availability:
Available to listen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qgvj
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Mitchells Pies -- Funa Zonke, Fri, 07 Aug 2009, 19:46:29 (NoHost/208.71.51.34)
Do any of you ex-Umtali-ites remember the pies MItchell's bakery used to make? The round ones with the hole in the middle?
If so, do you know what kind of pastry they used or a store-type equivalent?
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airlines -- imran khalid khan (happy), Fri, 07 Aug 2009, 19:44:52 (NoHost/116.71.16.137)
http://ikairlines.blogspot.com/
This site really great about latest information about airlines and there history please do visit it and than do pass comments ok.
Thanks.
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Zimfests/bar boats -- Rick Wired, Fri, 07 Aug 2009, 2:21:55 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
Hank's other boet - I think Zimfests suck big time . I think Thames tourist boat rides full of drunken East Europeans suck even bigger time . If you or fever cant understand that then tough .
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... -- Hank's other brother Hank, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 23:25:36 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)
Could it be that RR was DD's mentor?
I'd like to know why Rick Wired thinks a zimfest is such a glorious occassion? As another Rhodesian I agree with fever, whom I know to be a true Rhodesian.
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brit pubs - london -- maggi, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 22:33:23 (ppp121-44-96-98.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.96.98)
Carole, this may help:
http://www.pubs.com/home.cfm
http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/pubs-bars.aspx
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=London+pubs&btnG=Search&meta=
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/tube-embankment-clubs-bars.php
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10 X Worse, lol. -- fever, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 21:48:22 (t12-02.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.193)
A night on a boat is 10 times worse than a Zimfest, lol!
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Ricki Drew... -- fever, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 19:48:40 (t12-02.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.193)
What you doing, boy? I never mentioned aught about not going to a Rhodiefest.
If you are proud to associate your name with the letters Zim-(anything), well, you really are a moron, wherever you think it's cool to drink and meet folk.
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Wick Drier -- fever, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 16:43:26 (t09-09.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.152)
I still see no connection re anything in the below posts, clarify. Are you arguing for or against something ?
Carole, I hope you will report back as to which option, if any was chosen.
My suggestion was based upon a). People who don't know Londonistan, (yes, tourists, otherwise they wouldn't be asking where to go).
b). Easy to find.
c). A good base place.
d). The bar that Dawie suggested is probs no more than about 300m from the boats, sounds like a sterek lekker joll.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 15:35:21 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Just dont go on one of those ducks (amphibious vehicles) on the Thames. I went as part of the Belmont Shore 2006 England tour, Big Henry (who tackled Jacques Fourie) knocked the fire extinguisher over and the engine broke down. The entire team almost ended up in the Atlantic ocean, were it not for the London Fire Brigade Tug that came to the rescue.
Amazingly, Robinson Crusoe Pete was nowhere near the incident.
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. -- ray, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 14:43:06 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Ray Ray tries to escape the evil clutches of the Santa Monica womans Sevens rugby team.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jofp3LSS3Eo/Snjz_3fNAYI/AAAAAAAAGM4/UC_wbtgS0g8/s1600-h/IMG_0514.JPG
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Zim/Rhodiefest vs Thames toilets -- Rick Wired, Thu, 06 Aug 2009, 0:40:15 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)
Fever my point , yet again , is that a floating Thames tourist pub experience is ten times worse than any Zim /Rhodiefest.
So why do you think its so great and a Zim /Rhodiefest is so bad ???
Simple bloody question .
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Jo Pete and the All Blacks -- Also ugly shoes in CT, Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 12:07:54 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Can see u makin a fortune sellin the Alpha Bravos spray cans of Vanish at the next clash.... Think pink, forget Steyns!!! haha
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Maybe -- Jimbo, Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 3:48:55 (220.253-202-115.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.202.115)
maybe dawie, but don't put any money on it.
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bok bar -- dawie, Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 13:37:41 (vc-41-30-113-30.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.113.30)
hey carole the bok bar in covent gardens had more rhodies in than south africans when i was there last month. beer was ok casle hansa cheaper embankment area and they have a private area at the back seats about thirty or so you can hire the area for private parties. its under ground tho but festive not even 200 meters to crawl back to the underground. jo pete good one china forgot the chia.. chindits.so jimbo saturday rugby think the wonttobees could just give us beans hope weather better tickets sold out dawie
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Rhodiefest... -- fever, Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 1:54:44 (t01-15.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.30)
... When I catch up with my mates, not that I have any, it's not at a Zimfest.
Your Point is what?
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Embankment bar /restaurant -- Rick Wired, Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 1:27:15 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)
Carole - my favourite is the Northbank Restaurant with Bar outside . Just south of the Millennium Walkway Bridge on the St Paul's side . Most Embankment places are expensive but this is ok outside .
Fever-if you hate Zimfest how can you like the shitty Thames floating pubs ??? Tourist traps .
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Embankment meeting... -- fever, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 21:53:40 (t08-11.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.138)
Carole, there used to be a boat or two on the Thames that were like floating pubs near Embankment, quite enjoyable and probably as inexpensive(?) as most pubs, but better.
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. -- Ray, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 21:23:39 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Roger the same media that can convince millions of morons to vote a Kenyan born Munt for president of the USA.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78931
Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes.
by
Tishrei 13, 5769, 10/12/2008
Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.
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Chikirubi Chindits -- Jo Pete, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 18:31:20 (vc-41-30-248-245.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.248.245)
Yo BT. We used to call those intaf okes the Chikirubi Chindits. I thought that this was in common use.
How are the plates. Two klaps in a week for the shaggers. One win against the no hope moffies gives them the tri nations crown 2009.
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Meeting Place In London Town -- Colyen, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 16:15:53 (host86-164-22-209.range86-164.btcentralplus.com/86.164.22.209)
Hi
A couple of mad ex-Jamesonites are planning to meet in the very near future. Not being a frequent visitor to London have no ideas of a suitable venue.
Can anyone suggest a really nice daytime inexpensive venue in London - preferably with outside seating. Near Embankment Tube Station.
Any recommedations would be most grateful.
Regards
Carole
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Genocide -- Roger, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 8:46:23 (222-152-254-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.254.204)
Hey guys,
I knew it was all still going on, but can anyone confirm the authenticity of this blog.
I can't believe that this could go under the radar so to speak, how the hell can ANC keep the world media off this?
http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.com/2009/08/alphabetic-name-list-murders-attacks-on.html
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sorry caro iam -- dawie, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 8:26:49 (vc-41-29-229-186.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.229.186)
hey sorry caro i know you helping but its kind of traditional to climb on intaf. iam sure eddy is doing a great job and i know him well. what the hell tho its fun after all these years to pull the piss out of intaf. iam also not hidding behind anything and have been here for years now dawie is my name. i live in africa wheel and deal in anything and everything and travel a lot also drink too much well not as much as jo pete.
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Exploring China's Unique Presence In Africa -- Bob, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 4:44:27 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
There's a scene in a book I picked up this week about Africa and China's investment boom there. A young man in Cameroon is standing on a road offering to fill potholes. He holds a sign that reads, stronger than Chinese. It's a little like saying better than German engineering here. And it sums up how many Africans feel about the Chinese according to the book "China Safari" by journalists Serge Michel and Michel Beuret.
Serge Michel explains what the Chinese are after in Africa.
http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=111464427
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Vedettes -- Fever, Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 1:00:17 (t10-16.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.175)
Vedettes: in modern terms, they are listening posts around an operational area, however, not in Argentina and Peru, where it means something totally different.
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ORAFs and INTAFS and sub-JOC's -- Wankie, Sun, 02 Aug 2009, 23:16:00 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)
Maybe he has , but we wouldn't have any idea what he does based upon all the jargon and initials you posted (eg COMOPS, JOC's, Sub-JOC's ....)
If you want to sell a concept remember its 2009 not 1969 .
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ORAFs -- Caro, Sun, 02 Aug 2009, 20:52:19 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
I do not know anything about the unit/section l posted on just as help was requested l thought l would try and help.
Eddy runs ORAFs Old Rhodesian Air Force Sods.
For those who are unpleasant, sarcastic or just plain a/holes Eddie has done a lot more for people than someone that sits in a corner and hides bitching under a pseudo name and offers nothing to life other than unpleasantness.
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pulling there piss anon -- dawie, Sun, 02 Aug 2009, 9:12:09 (vc-41-29-229-186.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.229.186)
wake up anon iam pulling their piss,ive always woundered if zanla or zipra had a TAPU unit.
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ians intaf guard force -- dawie, Sun, 02 Aug 2009, 9:05:57 (vc-41-29-229-186.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.229.186)
one and the same, also known as falling plates. before guard force came along intaf ran the protected villages.the red hat was a good idea for the gooks to shoot at. i was only on one operation with five intaf with 303s went out at night with them mess tins dangling from there webbing. looking for gooks in a village made contact and the next thing is they duc for the castle they had was zambara up at mukas.while there one of them tried to shoot a pull through out of his 303 he had jammed. must say the white owns where the bravest in the war because no ways china i would have stay there with those troops.
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Ians and other Johnnies -- Host/86, Sun, 02 Aug 2009, 0:13:02 (host86-160-57-204.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.57.204)
IANS= Internal Affairs National Serviceman
vedettes, i think these were quasi/para/sorta milatary (in as much as intaf was military) jingies.
AKA sell-outs to their kin folk.
Guard force, never really worked out what that was all about other than a route for promotion for burnt out has beens and never-was types. (reffering to the ES elements of GF here)
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intaf -- anon, Sat, 01 Aug 2009, 15:09:55 (NoHost/77.208.65.30)
external ops intaf -- dawie
"protected villages" are you confusing them with guard force?
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external ops intaf -- dawie, Sat, 01 Aug 2009, 11:11:45 (vc-41-27-207-202.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.207.202)
caro i see eddy left off external ops of intaf the ones i can remember is every time they left their protected village.
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intaf -- dawie, Sat, 01 Aug 2009, 7:01:32 (vc-41-27-149-189.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.149.189)
intaf mmmnnn
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Tracking Africa's people smugglers -- Bob, Sat, 01 Aug 2009, 6:22:38 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Thousands of people leave their countries every year, trekking thousands of miles through eight countries from the Horn of Africa, via East Africa down to South Africa.
Bribes oil their journeys across the region by air, overland and sea.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8178587.stm
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Designed for Zanu -- Jimbo, Sat, 01 Aug 2009, 2:03:39 (220.253-205-96.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.205.96)
Don't forget dawie that the AK47 must have been designed for the Zanu gooks with the banana magazine that tucked nicely into the shoulder when pointing backwards whilst they ran off with their 17foot communist strides. Zipra on the other hand were known to dig in on the shoulder of the road at times where you could not traverse down far enough from inside the vehicles and they stood their ground. The difference between Matabele and Shona eh?
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Info wanted -- wankie, Sat, 01 Aug 2009, 0:38:54 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
"I have just received this email from Eddy Norris of ORAFs and am posting the info on. "
Who is Eddy Norris ? WTF is Orafs ? Why dont the researchers post directly ? And finally...................................................................................................wtf does this mean ???
"• Territorial Echelons - IANS and vedettes"
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Info Wanted -- Caro, Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 9:47:48 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
I have just received this email from Eddy Norris of ORAFs and am posting the info on.
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INTAF
Para-Military Civilians in Rhodesia's Bush War
Objective
To gather and assimilate written, diagrammatic and photographic material so as to produce and publish into the public domain, a book which details the role of the Rhodesian Ministry of Internal Affairs in the country's bush war, and by so doing, assure that this part of the legacy of what was Rhodesia will be recorded for posterity.
The Team
The participants, Dudley Wall, Gerry van Tonder and Lewis Walter are representative of the wide range of Intaf members involved in the war. They are bound together by the mutual determination to produce a record that shall be a credit to both Intaf and Rhodesia.
They strongly believe that the need and desire for the Internal Affairs story to be told totally precludes personal ambitions of individual or financial gain at the expense of the prime objective.
The Book
The contents of the publication are important, and to ensure a wide readership, need to appeal as much to the casual reader, as to the historian. It should hold attraction for the collector of Rhodesiana and, indeed, for anyone who once called themselves a Rhodesian.
It is also clearly understood that the biggest part of the story that needs to be told is Intaf's unusual para-military role in the Bush War. Intaf's role as civilians fighting a bitter terrorist war in an under-equipped and largely unrecognised para-military capacity is unique. It was an equal partner in the war and this does not detract from the traditional role. We made the traditional role work during the war and that was our job!
A fairly brief history will be included, serving as an important foundation, and giving the reader a full understanding of what Intaf actually was.
Material
To this end, written and pictorial material and contributions from original sources is sought, and constructive comment will be welcomed.
Such material is being sought from those Intaf members who were involved, be they IANS, cadets, vedettes, field staff, training staff, DO's, ADC's, DC's, PC's, etc.
Comment from other forces, Government officials and individuals who worked closely with Intaf in the field is particularly welcome.
This list is not exhaustive, but serves as an indicator of the kind of material we are after, and will therefore hopefully assist you in compiling your contribution:
• CV's, Keeps and PV's - the political decision and the implementation
• Ops Overload and Stronghold and others
• National Service Military Training at Chikurubi
• Uniforms and Ranks
• Weapons, vehicles and equipment, including personal, and communications
• The role of protector and trying to retain traditional role
• Patrols, contacts and tales of bravery: Risks and dangers
• Awards and citations
• Mine warfare
• Territorial Echelons - IANS and vedettes
• ARU's
• Air Wing
• Horse Troops
• Hearts and Minds (Psyac), including Ground Cover
• COMOPS, JOC's, Sub-JOC's - interaction with other forces and Guard Force
• Role in the cease-fire and preparations for the elections
• Assembly points and liaison with terrorists
• Monitoring forces, Bobbies and Commonwealth Forces
• The Elections and the New Order - Home Affairs
• Dismantling of PV's and winding down
Contacts and Addresses
Material may be forwarded to one of the following:
Dudley Wall 47 Stukeley Road, Basingstoke, RG21 8XD, United Kingdom
e-mail: dudleywall@yahoo.co.uk
Gerry van Tonder 47 Hollis Street, Alvaston, Derby, DE24 8QW, United Kingdom
e-mail: g.van-tonder@sky.com
Lewis Walter 9 Banks Road, Fish Hoek 7975, South Africa
e-mail: lewiswalter@xsinet.co.za
Do you have something to share? If so, why not preserve it permanently! Do you know of other Intaf members who may also like to participate? We will assist with proof-reading and editing of material we receive.
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zanla rpg 7 -- dawie, Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 6:57:35 (vc-41-30-5-176.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.5.176)
zanla fired an rpg7 from the then salisbury koppie into the refinery. i met one of the combatants who was there now owns a print shop in harare have had many talks with him over the years its funny how we see things in a different light as simple combatants on different sides. jo pete is right zipra were much more respected than zanla. in 1976 i was in hondi valley zanla reved rudi camp at night missed with morters etc. we could not find the spot they fired from a week later a stick was doing a 360 1000 m away from the camp and found fifty fireing possitions they had gapped it when fire was retured and left behind two unimogs worth morter tubes bombs rpg 7 rockets etc. not brave enough to get close to be effective.i think there numbers were greater than zipra and had they been better trained the bush war would have ended sooner. ive been in a fire fight with 8 men and got zanla of 100 or so to gap it, their leaders had little control where zipra would do flanking attacks on your possition shouting orders during the fire fight unheard of from znala in my experiance.temba would be interesting to chat contact me on this mail where are you.
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Airlines -- imran khalid khan (happy), Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 20:05:56 (NoHost/116.71.12.99)
http://ikairlines.blogspot.com/
Its really a informative and attractive web site please do watch this web site ok.
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. -- Fashion Cop, Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 16:07:55 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Chick with Ugly Shoes in Cape Town..
http://www.southafrica.com/forums/photo-album/6438-ugly-green-shoes.html
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Gooks -- Jo Pete, Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 8:21:29 (41-208-48-160.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.160)
Yo BT. Temba ZANLA were Shona(Mugabe), ZIPRA(Nkomo) were Nbebele. Therefore ZANLA operated in the north ZIPRA in the south. The dividing line was approximately Nkai through Selukwe, Ft Vic.
The two factions hated each other with a passion and often had major conflict with each other.
I was entertained by ZANLA/ZIPRA confrontations on a couple of occassions. The phyrotechnics were awesome.
ZIPRA were far more respected than ZANLA by the Rhodesian Army. They were much better trained and more aggressive.
Basically ZIPRA were Russian backed & ZANLA Chinese.
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Old English font -- Barbara, Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 0:53:03 (CPE-121-210-243-80.qld.bigpond.net.au/121.210.243.80)
Ant, if you want simply to copy Old English font, have a look at this - http://www.militarysabers.com/images/sword-etches/engravers-old-english-large.jpg
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Now for something completely different -- Ant Brooks, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 23:47:41 (adsl-217-205-20.aby.bellsouth.net/68.217.205.20)
Firstly, thanks to those who gave advice on tracking English born relatives. I am trying the leads you gave.
Now for the different request. In the 80's and 90's Platignum pens sold a simple calligraphy set. In it was a pamphlet with various fonts. The 'Old English' was simple enough even for me to imitate. Does anyone have the pamphlet? If yes, would you be willing to scan it for me?
Cheers
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. -- Ray, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 20:03:48 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
See
http://selousscouts.tripod.com/rhodesian%20army%20coin%2072_79%20part1.htm
They were oil storage tanks not a refinery.
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Chimurenga -- temba, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 18:12:35 (adsl-88-107-210.asm.bellsouth.net/98.88.107.210)
Hie All,
I am doing some bit of reading about the war and I need some material from the perspective of a Rhodesian soldier.In particular I would like to know who, between Zanla and Zipra, bombed the Oil Refineries in Salisbury.Any help will be appreciated.
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Too many 7&7s -- Hank's other brother Hank, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 18:04:43 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)
Im also having a lot of trouble believing it was happening
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The Rhodesian 1910 Double Head issue -- Bob, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 11:06:12 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
The Rhodesian 1910 Double Head issue – which used to be called the King and Queen issue – is one of the most colourful and widely collected stamps in the British Empire. First issued on the 11 November 1910 (SG 119-185) to commemorate the visit of the Duke and Duchess of Connaught to Southern Africa, it was originally designed to have the portrait of King Edward VII; however due to his untimely death (are not all so?) in 1910, the portrait of King George V and Queen Mary appeared on the stamps. In fact, King George V, as the Prince of Wales, was originally scheduled to make the visit to Africa. Probably first imagined as a commemorative issue, it developed into a definitive issue (November 1910 – August 1913) with 17 values: ½d, 1d, 2d, 2½d, 3d, 4d, 5d, 6d, 8d, 10d, 1/-, 2/-, 2/6-, 3/-, 5/-, 10/- and £1.
Below (from the left): A block of four 1d SG 123; A 5d (SG 141a) with a Registered Bulawayo cancel; 10d (SG 149) CTO, Gwelo; A pair of ½d Looker Catalogue 3 (olive green) with a Victoria, Mashonaland cancel; A 2/6 SG 156 and 2d SG 127; A 4d SG 138.
http://www.philatelicdatabase.com/africa/a-trek-into-rhodesia/
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microwave ice-cream -- maggi (:)), Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 8:44:58 (ppp121-44-50-184.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.50.184)
Caro, hope the ankle is feeling a tad better today. BTW I microwave my ice-cream as well for a few seconds, but a good solution is an affrogato (hope I got the spelling right)--
scoop of creamy vanilla ice-cream and a tot of espresso coffee.... now get someone to make it for you, put your foot up and rest is the best cure...
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Mauritius -- Saleha Akbar, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 6:57:36 (NoHost/116.71.27.211)
Here u can find many things about Mauritius and his islands,resorts and much more related things
http://fk-aboutmauritius.blogspot.com/
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HEAT AND COLD -- scripsi, Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 3:10:23 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
I hear a trumpet blowing .....
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HEAT AND COLD -- Ray, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 23:12:22 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Caro I think my fellow rugby players are extremely stupid by immediately applying ice to any bump bruise or sprain they get. At Sevens rugby tournaments they even have drums of water and ice they they immerse themselves in and I heard at Blue Bulls it is obligatory.
I did research on it and found that cold is the last thing you should do for injury because it increases inflammation.
The correct thing to do is to apply heat, because it increases circulation and speeds healing.
If ever I get injured on a rugby field and they come running with those ice packs I would get up and run away as fast as I could. Fortunately I do not get injured as I have learned how to strengthen the body. (I captained a Sevens team on saturday at Backbay Sevens with no less than 4 International players on the team 3 from USA and 1 from England. I had trouble believing that it was happening).
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Melted Ice Cream -- Morag, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 20:42:18 (wsip-70-166-17-114.sd.sd.cox.net/70.166.17.114)
Caro: Sounds as if you have been working really hard. . . even on Facebook someone said the get together was fantastic.
You are not the only person I know who microwaves their ice cream. It is great a little melted.
Hope you foot heals quickly.
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Caro's Zimfest -- Jo Pete, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 19:38:54 (vc-41-27-144-109.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.144.109)
Yo BT. Caro you and your co organisers take a bow. Hope all your combined efforts were worth it and appreciated.
I see that your cooking skills have remained static.
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Ice cream -- Caro, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 16:35:17 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
Yup and salads l do not like cold. If l can not microwave them for some reason l try and leave them to warm up. I will only eat cold ice cream if it is a really really hot day.
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Albert Einstein. -- Ray, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 15:57:42 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Few people remember that this Nobel Prize winner married his cousin, Elsa Lowenthal, after divorcing his first wife in 1919. At the time he stated that he was attracted to Elsa because she was so well endowed.
That is how he came onto his theory about relative titty.
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. -- ray, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 15:14:12 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
YOU MICROWAVE YOUR ICE CREAM?
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JULY BRAAI 09, FUNDRAISER -- Caro, Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 14:10:06 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
Well l survived July Braai apart from my accident Saturday morning setup l decided to do heavy work as opposed to the paperwork. We loaded the van with all sorts and the 3 big marquees.
Got to the party field and l held Wib’s while l got out the van. Next thing Tony (the driver) said l yelped and folded he said all he could see was me trying to save Wib’s from bring hurt as we disappeared from view he ran round. My foot had gone straight down a hole hidden by grass.
I lay for a few minutes things swirling and feeling sick made him move my ankle so l could "know" it wasn't broken, don't ask where the logic is l was too sore to think.
I would add l had shoes on and the only time l get into a problem and hurt myself is with shoes on they are dangerous.
The marquee group dropped me back at the camper to get Wib’s bed and water bowl and then at the cabin to do paperwork that l had tried to avoid. Matching guest passes, tickets for drinks, braai packs, boerewors packs (type of South African sausage), and putting them into envelopes with members names on and what was in each envelope which are handed out during booking in. This was started at 9am and ended at about 19:00 to put it in polite terms it is a sod of a job.
My foot swelled and got discoloured l soaked it in a bowl of water and ice. Great this for someone who microwaves salads and ice cream as l hate the cold so much.
I was upset that l missed walking the marquee over we left up post POTS, l was looking forward to that.
Later on l managed to hobble back to party field and helped put up the other 3 newly bought marquees and got in trouble for not resting, but l felt guilty not working as l went there to work.
That afternoon back to do paperwork and then join hub at the van for dinner, he arrived back from the parachute centre which is fairly close. Niki Mac. gave me a bandage and B wrapped my ankle with that later in the evening.
Sunday just sat and talked to friends and took it easy. The bulk of the work was done. Others went home during the day, we came home Sunday evening and back Wednesday.
Monday l had hub drop me at A & E about 7am so l could get the ankle x-rayed and prove to my Mum who was already in major panic over the thing it was just badly strained. A & E was nice and quiet as expected at that time. The nurse practitioner was worried about blood flow but l pointed out that pressing and getting 5mins of white until the blood flows back is normal for me, she wheeled me off for an x-ray not believing me.
I get so envious at human radiography, l realise not all is easy but pretty much none of the veterinary is easy unless the animal is comatose and lying on its side. Other than that they need a GA or very deep sedation.
Back to wait for the xr to be delivered and then wheeled back to a bay, this time the nurse prac. Checked both my feet and finally realised that l was right both feet had big white depression spots waiting for blood to get back to them......eventually and were cold.
After a good look at the xr and a poke and twisting from her with whimpers from me the decision was a severe strain and a pair of crutches with instructions to stay off it. So a few days rest before braai then there is lots of work to do.
These elbow crutches are not easy to use still l am getting the hang of them just what a start to July braai week can not believe it.
By Wednesday when we got back people were already pulling in people were pretty much ensconced by Thursday night so the gate will need to be manned form earlier next year.
I much preferred Beachwood as a venue, lots more trees and separate areas, noisy party field, quieter mid field and silence end or POTS field. There were a few problems. One was the water the showers were on the incoming water main section and siphoned it all the rest of the camp got a trickle; Colin is putting in a new water main. The new shower and toilet block, half built will be online and from what l understand new power points in the main field. We need to have parking organised better as well and the usual organisational teething items that appeared as “oh if we did/have…” One idea is from next year we are going to have those grabbers for litter. If not l am on strike.
Neil from Msasa Video had their DVDs and new Audio and DVD’s for sale http://rhodesianvideos.mazoe.com/
Elwyn was selling embroidered clothes with many Rhodesian service and general badges the best around l may add, and shipped all over the world. http://www.lynelbys-online.co.uk/
Debbie Tong was selling Clothes with the iron on patches or you could buy them separate.
Robb Ellis had some books for sale http://thebeardedman.blogspot.com/
Food in the way breakfast and rolls also dry goods from SA and all braai and borrie packs were sourced by Richard and Becky from Tribe http://www.biltongtribe.co.uk/
Big Ian said there was up to 1500 people there but did not know exactly how many and the place was packed with tents and caravans. Next year l am not moving from my planned spot. We were asked to move sideways to a different part of the area we were in and ended up being very cramped in our section next year l am parking by the road and planting the wheels so deep into the ground we won’t shift without a pull that should sort things.
I only made it to POTS once it was to far to hop but when l saw it on the Friday it looked ok space wise. I had crutched down to do gate duty but when l got there it was fully manned on the gate so l went back and did bar ticket sales.
The bar was the best yet in layout. We had one marquee which was the bar, with a nicely constructed bar that ASBO and Big Ian built, then 3 new large marquees joined on with a stage in the middle section at the back, so a very big area under cover and it made a hell of a difference.
Due to my ankle and crutches every time l stood up to do everything l was met with a barrage of and what do you think you are doing??? SIT. So as l felt guilty not doing enough l did 2 ticket selling stints for bar drinks about 13hours each. I also got up very early cleaned the marquee and bar and restocked fridges. By the time anyone arrived and had a go at me l had at least done something constructive.
Fraser Mc., David Scobie and Matts Band provided the music and the Silly Brothers did Saturday afternoon crazy time with the kids.
There was a small memorial service on Sunday afternoon organised by Magnum (Bobby Knott). The idea was just a quiet good bye to those who have passed on. Pretty much everyone who was left at the camp attended.
Neil from Msasa Video piped the service in. A few words were said, names of those who were being remembered read out and we all had our quiet memories of all mentioned or not who have passed over the years, it ended with a reading of ”At the going down of the sun…” while Neil piped it out quietly as he moved away. A very moving ceremony, many a silent tear was shed.
I hope that it becomes a yearly event and people can bring pictures of those who they want to remember and pin them on the board. Even if names are not mentioned it is just a lovely memorial and quiet unwind time.
We were very lucky with the weather we had mixed on Thursday but sun on Friday and Saturday, Sunday was mixed, Monday take down day was very wet but at least it was not during the event. As we were about 20 miles from the parachute centre and the weather passed over us l was an outlying weather station for the parachute club.
Photos are up in the album http://pub21.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=1762106677#bn-photocenter-1-1-1762106677/54771/1/
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Africa Rising -- Bob, Mon, 27 Jul 2009, 9:48:44 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
27 July 2009
Africa Rising
listen now | download audio
Before the current economic downturn the acronym BRIC signalled golden opportunities for foreign investment. Brazil, Russia, India and China were the way to vast future profits. The economic times are different in 2009 but Vijay Mahajan says that there is a huge, largely ignored market waiting to be discovered and he argues Africa is in many ways not all that different from India or China.
Guests
Vijay Mahajan
Professor in the Graduate School of Business University of Texas.
Publications
Title: Africa Rising - how 900 million consumers offer more than you think
Author: Vijay Mahajan
Publisher: Wharton
URL: http://www.whartonsp.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0137141726
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/
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Jill Amm -- Morag, Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 18:32:16 (adsl-71-137-1-52.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.137.1.52)
Can anyone help with this request?
Do you by chance have any idea what became of Jill Annersley (Amm)? Her name came up recently on a motorcycle racing nostalgia forum and after googling her, I was led to your photographs. If you can help with any info, that would be very much appreciated. Regards Russell Burrows
Thanks.
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Ant Brooks -- maggi, Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 10:41:54 (ppp121-44-50-184.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.50.184)
Ant, hi we got our birth certificate at, I think, Births & Deaths Registry, London, something like tha. - not free mind you and if memory serves me correct they do go back to the 1800's. We were able to provide the name and the fact he served in the Merchant Marines and that was all required. HOpe that this can help a bit. Ta
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Slave Chorus -- Ray, Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 8:05:39 (pool-71-105-111-233.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.105.111.233)
Even better... metropolitan Opera House, 2001.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BZSqtqr8Qk
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Slave Chorus -- Ray, Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 7:53:51 (pool-71-105-111-233.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.105.111.233)
Lets try again...
of the hundreds of versions of The Slave Chorus on You Tube, the following, in Italian, has been chosen for most emotional impact..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYhxfq8HoxY&feature=related
English words are:
Fly, thought, on wings of gold,
go settle upon the slopes and the hills
where the sweet airs of our
native soil smell soft and mild!
Greet the banks of the river Jordan
and Zion's tumbled towers.
Oh, my country, so lovely and lost!
Oh remembrance so dear yet unhappy!
Golden harp of the prophetic wise men,
why hang so silently from the willows?
Rekindle the memories in our hearts,
tell us about the times gone by!
Remembering the fate of Jerusalem
play us a sad lament
or else be inspired by the Lord
to fortify us to endure our suffering.
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Hebrew Slave Chorus Nabucco Verdi -- Ray, Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 7:46:08 (pool-71-105-111-233.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.105.111.233)
The Hebrew Slave Chorus, Nabucco, Verdi, English Translation
Fly, thought, on wings of gold,
go settle upon the slopes and the hills
of the hundreds of You Tube versions, this one, in Italian has been selected..
for most emotional impact..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYhxfq8HoxY&feature=related
where the sweet airs of our
native soil smell soft and mild!
Greet the banks of the river Jordan
and Zion's tumbled towers.
Oh, my country, so lovely and lost!
Oh remembrance so dear yet unhappy!
Golden harp of the prophetic wise men,
why hang so silently from the willows?
Rekindle the memories in our hearts,
tell us about the times gone by!
Remembering the fate of Jerusalem
play us a sad lament
or else be inspired by the Lord
to fortify us to endure our suffering
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Is corruption inevitable? -- Bob, Fri, 24 Jul 2009, 9:55:09 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Corruption
Is corruption inevitable? Adam Graycar believes that it isn't. He says, "Corruption may occur when inclination and opportunity meet and where there is no 'capable guardian'. Any starting diagnosis has to determine whether the corrupt act is done for greed, or whether it's done for survival."
In this discussion Adam Graycar defines corruption, talks about its impact and some of the ways it can be combated.
listen | download (9.8MB)
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/
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The Land of Opportunity -- Bob, Fri, 24 Jul 2009, 9:52:52 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
In Salisbury, the balmy, slumberous capital of Rhodesia, the question these days is not whether the blacks will take over, but when. The bitter guerrilla war against black nationalist soldiers drags on, and Salisbury has begun to take on a Belfast look: bags are searched, windows are taped, and bomb posters are everywhere. For Rhodesia's white minority, the latest Anglo-American peace initiatives—even if successful—will lead only to the inevitability of black rule. Thus thousands of whites are packing up, selling their houses and cars (at huge losses), and emigrating to South Africa and beyond on the "chicken run" (TIME, Aug. 1).
Surprisingly enough, there are still buyers for some of those abandoned houses. Every day, about 15 to 20 whites arrive at Salisbury's airport to make Rhodesia their home—perhaps only for a few months, perhaps longer if their luck holds. Hundreds more show up every month to look around, but are rejected as immigrants because of their lack of job skills. "It's a crazy world," admits one Rhodesian immigration official.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,915681-1,00.html
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. -- Ray, Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 21:44:00 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Ethical Man, I see you video shows people with no electricity and modern conveniences and that they are Amish.
For gosh sakes man, I never knew that everybody in Zimbabwe is Amish.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 21:33:17 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
he he
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Attention Maggi -- Ant Brooks, Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 19:43:48 (adsl-144-246-134.aby.bellsouth.net/70.144.246.134)
Thanks for the info. That is where my problem starts. Other than the statement on my dad's birth cert. that his father was born in the UK, I have no info on grandad. My dad was born in 1911 so grandad would have qualified.
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fork and knife -- anon, Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 15:31:05 (NoHost/77.210.62.154)
we have an old very ordentlich afrikaans friend who at braais always asks whether anyone needs "a fork and knife". he slurs the words slightly. and holds out a fistful of knives and forks to those who enivitably do a double-take at his words.
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The modern world intrudes on the Amish -- Ethical Man, Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 6:27:03 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Watching our film it is easy to forget just how private and closed Amish communities usually are. Many Amish refuse to be photographed, let alone filmed for television, so it was a real privilege to be invited to stay and work on an Amish farm.
In keeping with the Ethical Man ethos we were travelling by train from Washington DC down to Texas. And, if you want a non-ethical argument for taking the train rather than a plane, this trip is it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ethicalman/2009/07/horse_yodelling_with_the_amish.html
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Massachusetts lottery -- Bill, Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 6:23:19 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Massachusetts lottery games are open to all, you don't have to be a resident of the state.
These are the games:
Megabucks Doubler are drawn two times a week (Wednesday & Saturday) 1 Year Season Ticket = $100 (104 drawings)
Mass Cash is Drawn 3 times a week (Tuesday, Friday & Sunday) 1 Year Season Ticket = $150 (156 drawings)
Cash Winfall is drawn 2 times a week (Monday & Thursday) 1 Year Season Ticket = $200 (104 drawings)
All draws at 11:20pm
Season Tickets can be purchased via phone from out of state
Season Tickets Line 1-800-222-8587 (Business Hours Local Time)
http://www.masslottery.com/games/seasontickets.html
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. -- Ray, Tue, 21 Jul 2009, 20:55:49 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Host 88, English speaking church deacon with heavy Welsh accent offered Afrikaans congregation spoons of cough syrup to stop disruption of service, and reverend wondered why they jumped up and left the church after deacon whispered something in their ear, namely "for cough" which is phonetically equivalent to f**koff in Afrikaans..
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Ray humeroustjie -- Host/86, Tue, 21 Jul 2009, 18:24:57 (host86-141-140-167.range86-141.btcentralplus.com/86.141.140.167)
Ray - missed everything up to "For Cough" but i am guess there is the afriks related fawkendals
fork handles or four candles from the brilliance of the 2 ronnies - well one of them at least
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BT -- Nellie, Tue, 21 Jul 2009, 15:47:32 (CPE-60-228-233-114.wa.bigpond.net.au/60.228.233.114)
Glad to be Gay.
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. -- . (.), Tue, 21 Jul 2009, 15:17:21 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Bill the new Bob?
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Lotto machine rejects winning ticket -- Bill, Tue, 21 Jul 2009, 9:21:54 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
In South Africa, a Durban woman has asked Lotto operator Gidani to investigate its scanning machines after her winning ticket was declared invalid.
Wanda Bromehead, said she had checked the newspaper and knew she had won R88 in the May 16 draw.
But she was surprised when the teller behind the counter ran her ticket through the scanner and the screen displayed the words "No Winner".
http://www.lotterypost.com/news/197358/1356409
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something i can read -- dawie, Tue, 21 Jul 2009, 9:00:51 (vc-41-30-192-44.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.192.44)
ahh ray something i can read
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. -- Ray, Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 15:28:34 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Whisky Pete, Wired, if his father had changed one nappie (diaper), he would have been a maternal father..
Okay Taxi, how about:
Op ´n plattelandse dorp gedurende ´n wintermaand toe verkoue erg in die omloop was, was die predikant baie omgekrap dat sy eredienste onderbreek word deur gemeentelede se hoesbuie.
Hy bespreek toe die probleem om ´n oplossing te vind met sy koster wat Engelssprekend is met 'n sterk Walliese aksent.
Die volgende Sondag as iemand hoes, staan die koster op en gaan gee vir die persoon ´n lepel hoesstroop in en sê vir hom iets in sy oor waarna die persoon opspring en uit loop. So hou dit aan en die kerk is later byna leeg.
Na die diens vra die dominee vir die koster wat hy dan vir die mense gesê het dat hy later vir ´n byna leë kerk moes preek.
Die koster sê hy het net vir hulle gesê, "For cough".
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WHOOOA -- Jo Pete, Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 10:49:46 (vc-41-29-117-11.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.117.11)
Yo BT. WHOOOOOA Maggi. How the hell was I supposed to know that your hubby is adopted? May I suggest that you are confusing paternal with biological.
Whatever no offence was intended.
Such language is very unbecoming of a lady such as you.
Rick said it all.
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Maternal Fathers -- Host/86, Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 1:33:44 (host86-141-140-167.range86-141.btcentralplus.com/86.141.140.167)
Or may be his free credit has run out ...
Mikey give us a sign please
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no need 2 -- Rick Wired, Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 22:50:06 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)
Maggi - no need to get all shirty and defensive with JPete . He was sarcastically pointing out that every woman's husband OBVIOUSLY has a paternal father ..... you could hardly have a maternal father could you ?
Except for Wacko Jacko's kids mebbe....
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no need -- maggi, Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 22:26:52 (ppp121-44-93-149.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.93.149)
j/p no need for that fuckign shit... ok he is adopted...
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Lucky -- Host/86, Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 18:32:08 (host86-141-140-167.range86-141.btcentralplus.com/86.141.140.167)
Jo Pete: You were just lucky i guess
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John's father -- Jo Pete, Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 6:13:23 (vc-41-29-210-200.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.210.200)
Yo BT. Maggi very happy for you and John that he has a paternal father. How many others does he have?
Fever big apologies. I confused you with Savage.
We actually had several ales with London Mike on the Queen Mary. Can't remember why you weren't there.
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Spade a Spade -- Shovel, Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 2:07:55 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
will be a while before i get to your level ....
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Host86/... -- fever, Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 0:08:49 (t12-11.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.202)
...lol! When you're in a hole, keep digging.
JoPete, I am nowhere near PMB, I think you confuse me with another. I did volunteer you a dop when you were last in Londonistan, but never heard back. I think you were having biscuit pressure.
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Adoption -- Maggi, Sat, 18 Jul 2009, 23:24:24 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
Ant Brooks - saw your query. There is a small loophole we found in the British law re passports, we went this route for our children about 7 years ago (came horribly unstuck in Zambia, but will explain).
If you can provide evidence that your paternal grandfather (not grandmother) was born before 1922 that entitles you to apply for a Brit passport. My husbands paternal father was born 1921, hence our interest for our kids. We gathered all the relevant documentation until we came to his death certificate. He had died in Zambia, and after 6 months of comms gave in at the end, no one could help.
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THis & that -- Jo Pete, Sat, 18 Jul 2009, 20:44:07 (vc-41-29-226-185.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.226.185)
Yo BT. Hey Wens don't knock me man. I have to earn a living somehow, and those tourists have more bucks than me.
Fever you still in PMB? We are through there often. How about you buy me dop?
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Fay Adoption -- Confused, Sat, 18 Jul 2009, 16:26:22 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)
Fay - how could you be adopted on May 12 1970 when you were only born on May 25 1970 ? Is this correct ?
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Dippy -- moooo, Sat, 18 Jul 2009, 3:19:23 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
Dipshitz
BWHAAHAHAHA
Were you like the last guy that got chosen on the school debating team ?
Who said anything about respectable ? Who appointed you as judge of respectability ?
..and fever is your real name ?
Should you ever offer anything in the line of adult convo let us all know.
As previously; clearly a man unhappy with his benefits
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Onward -- fever, Sat, 18 Jul 2009, 1:59:11 (t05-11.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.90)
Apologies, Fay, I was hoping to widen the debate. I won't tolerate dipshits like 'me', anonymose as they are. My suggestion was not intended in all seriousness, however, with three kids in tow, you would be on a winner.
And, yes, I do have an interest, my sister having been adopted ca '55, now aboding very successfully in the UK.
Me, since when did it become respectable in your to flee your tax obligations and your wife and kids? I am sure Germany treated him more than well whilst he was there. All part of the same thing, maybe some Hun will adopt the off-spring left behind and have to deal with matters in the future. I don't think you are up for adult conversations at the moment.
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hope this help -- maggi, Sat, 18 Jul 2009, 1:03:37 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
Fay, go to this site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law#British_citizenship_by_adoption
and head off to the paragraph that says British Citizenship by adoption...
this site will probably answer everything....
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Asoption -- Caro, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 12:52:36 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
If it helps l was adopted in the early 60s my Dad is SA born my Mum a brit. I had no trouble getting a brit passport it was a long time ago in the early 80's but it may hearten you.
As far as l know nothing was lodged with anyone re birth/adopt cert l know my Mum spent many a long day going nuts to sort it but she did.
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Can only happen in Africa -- Wens, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 12:49:35 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Radio 702 yesterday. We now have a group of common crooks who are once again targeting tourists and tourist companies. They are smarlty dressed, drive in flashy cars with the blue light and all and flash ID cards with the SAP logo on it and the words Tourim Police. Nothing like this exists in South Africa, within minutes the will rob you lf all your foreign currency and passport.
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Interlude -- Roger, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 10:01:39 (222-152-254-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.152.254.204)
Time for an interlude, a bit of easy listening guys and gals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT0ZNRixFgo&feature=related
memories here.
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Adoptive parents -- Texi, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 8:45:08 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
There is an obvious reason for not automatically inheriting your adoptive parents’ nationality. It could easily shortcut ferver’s favoured route.
UK nationals go to a country and for a small consideration adopt any number of persons; job done, please supply me with 1 X Brit passport complete with the all important right of abode stamp.
Your best route is via your biological parents, however even this could be tuff as I am sure you are finding out.
Ray do you know any funny jokes ?
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Tex -- my my, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 8:03:19 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
Sush now. You are making me blush. Being thought a dickhead by you is high praise indeed. Lore may feel the same. At least he worked enough to amass a tax deficit. What is it you do for a living again ?
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Thanks -- Fay, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 7:39:40 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
EISH !!!! Guys, Guys, Guys - take it easy. Why has this turned into an argument ?? Anyway , thanks to all of you for trying to help. Jacaranda girls comment have made me feel MILDLY miserable and a bit peeved too. Not to go the sympathy route , but bloody hell , thats plain discrimination against adopted people. The parents that adopted us are our parents !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish i could take someone on about this , its BULL !!! Anyway , thanks everyone. Will keep enquiring and see what happens !
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meme -- fever, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 22:40:21 (t02-05.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.36)
So sorry, me-me, got you confused with that arse lore, you sound the same. I have never met such a dick-head in my life, so, pat yourself on the back, you coming a close second. BTW, cut the crap, you think everybody is stupid? You sound like some prick that left sons and wife in Germany running away from a Tax Bill?
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Mi mi -- ****, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 21:26:08 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
Revef , no not me, but stories of that visit have passed into folk lore I guess.
Shiver
Are you organizing an intro to KathyH ? Cheers
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Me isa havin a zimfest... -- fever, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 21:22:28 (t02-05.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.36)
Was that tongue in arse again? Never catch me @ a 'zimfest'.
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meme... -- fever, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 21:07:01 (t02-05.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.36)
I believe I have actually put this character 'me' up at my house a few years ago.
Shudder.
See what happens when you try to be nice. Wait till you meet KathyH, her and this 'me' fok are made for each other, lol!
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aye aye -- !!!, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 21:06:00 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
F’ver, no sweat man, I tend to avoid cooking sherry so your tipple is safe (ek se) .
We can avoid each other at zimfest if you wish?
You flatter yourself on your insight into my school day sleeping habits.
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Er, ol... -- fever, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 17:34:55 (t12-06.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.197)
Yep, thanks for the explanation. That you were being tongue in cheek is ironic. try to get the home help to pull your head out your arse, hey! Sounds like Afrikaans wasn't the only subject you slept through. If you were the last 'Rhodesian' on the planet, I wouldn't dop with you, and I don't think you would find many who would. Tell us who you really are...(...crickets).
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. -- Ray, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 15:31:18 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Mildred, the church gossip and self-appointed arbiter of the church's morals, kept sticking her nose into other people's business.
She accused George, a new member, of being an alcoholic after she saw his pickup truck parked in front of the town's only bar one afternoon.
She commented to George and others that everyone seeing it there would know what he was doing.
George, a man of few words, stared at her for a moment and just walked away.
That night he parked his pick-up truck in front of Mildred's house and left it there allnight.
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. -- Ray, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 15:10:09 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
An African dies and goes to hell. There he finds that there is a different hell for each country. So before he goes to the African Hell, he goes to the other Hells.
He goes to the German hell and asks, "What do they do here?" He is told, "First they put you in an electric chair for an hour.
Then they lay you on a bed of nails for another hour. Then the German devil comes in and whips you for the rest of the day."
The man does not like the sound of that at all, so he moves on. He checks out the USA hell as well as the Russian hell and many more. He discovers that they are all more or less the same as the German hell.
Then he comes to the African hell and finds that there is a long line of people waiting to get in.
Amazed, he asks, "What do they do here?"
He is told, "First they put you in an electric chair for an hour. Then they lay you on a bed of nails for another hour. Then the African devil comes in and whips you for the rest of the day."
"But that is exactly the same as all the other hells - why are there so many people waiting to get in?"
"Because the electric chair does not work, someone has stolen all the nails from the bed, and the devil is a government servant, so he comes in, hits you once or twice and then sleeps for the rest of the day.
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For Fay -- Jacaranda Girl, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 4:02:13 (NoHost/87.115.99.214)
Fay,
I was also adopted in Zim in the 70's with a British adoptive father and can confirm that you cannot get a British passport via this route unless he officially registered your birth with the British High Commission when you were adopted. With regards to getting an unabridged copy of your birth certificate, I've had lengthy (what fun!) discussions with the Zim Embassy(High Commission) in London and the ONLY way you can do this is to get it from Zim. I was told by some staff that you had to apply in person, other said you can get a representative to apply on your behalf - ie a few bribes under the table should do the trick!! Good luck - probably easier (albeit a lot more expensive) to wait the 5 years!
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Calling Reg -- Ant Brooks, Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 1:15:59 (adsl-217-196-185.aby.bellsouth.net/68.217.196.185)
Hey Reg, I saw your offer to help Fay. Can you give me some pointers. My grandad was born in England and apparently died there. All I have is his name, nothing else. His wife was apparently born in Rhodesia and died in the UK. No info other than her name.
Cheers
murungu@mindspring.com
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r -- ray, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 20:25:04 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
One day a girl brings home her boyfriend and tells her father she wants to marry him. He tells his daughter she can't do it because he's her half brother. The same problem happens again four more times! The girl starts to get pissed off. She goes to her mom and says, "Mom... What have you been doing all your life? Dad's been going around laying every girl in the town and now I can't marry any of the five guys I like because they have turned out to be my half brothers!!!"
Her mom replies, "You can marry any one of them you want, what makes your silly dad thinks you are his daughter."
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me myslef aye -- aye, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 20:09:18 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
Note to self
My advice to Fay (apart from contacting probate) was as tongue in cheek as yours.
Go bek too slip menn. Yuss laak yew will niva amount to nothing
As my old afriks teacher used to tell me.
You sound like a person unhappy with his benefits ?
Have you tried the disability route?
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. -- Ray, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 18:02:06 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Well then "Me", seems you walked right into Fevers set up then..
Good luck Fay, Alles Sal Regkom In Die Ou Einde..
That's what my Ouma always said...
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Me, yourself, you... -- fever, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 16:58:59 (t04-07.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.70)
... you don't get out much, do you. When you next get the home-help in, see if you can get some help finding your sense of irony. Look that one up.
The suggestion that Fay should ditch her papers in the channel was intended to illustrate the ease with which people with ABSOLUTELY no connection to the UK work it, whilst Fay, who probably has more hereditary rights of abode than yourself, is being denied access unless she musters up and proves in advance who she is. Even English folk are thinking of working this plan because of the benefits the 'fugees recieve.
I am 100% sure Fay would make up her own mind re my chirrup. Your input has little or no value.
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Adoptions - Fay -- Morag, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 14:38:15 (adsl-71-136-239-242.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.136.239.242)
Fay, I am almost sure - and can look into it, but if you are adopted you are "legally" part of the family who adopted you. My brother-in-law, many years ago let his son's stepfather adopt him, now that son born in Rhodesia, (in his 50's;living in SA), wants to come to the USA and has no legal right to come here under his biological father's sponsorship. You should have better luck going in under your adopted father's paperwork. Good luck and please let us know how you get along.
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Fay -- Reg, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 14:37:02 (5ac4095c.bb.sky.com/90.196.9.92)
Hi Fay do you or any family friends have access to the Mormon church?. That organisation knows an awful lot about us lesser mortal's.In the UK they are really helpful with access to all types of Birth Marriage Deaths etc.And why i say this is because the service they provide is usually free.If you need any help im in the UK and have many hours doing this with all my Immigration problems any ways good luck and just shout if you need a hand cheers Reg
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me -- Fay, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 13:05:41 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
Hi (Me)
Yes thanks , wont be following Fevers advice, certainly not with 3 kids anyway !! Unfortunately with regards to my biological father , I received a name (Len Harry Waite)and after approx 7 years of enquiring , internet , asking questions etc, can only go on what I have been told. He apparently committed suicide in Bulawayo , round about 77 or something like that. I really cant rely on any info I have on my biological father as I dont know what is fact.
What fun being adopted in Zim in the 70's !!!!!
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Fay -- me, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 12:37:23 (host86-162-212-231.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.212.231)
this a bit off the wall - but all avenues worth trying.
did he die in the UK ?
If so then contact probate regarding his will and any entitlement you may have. Lots of info revealed in wills.
Probate in the UK dont care who you are -0 they just ask a smal fee - 15 quid when i used it - yonks ago.
Dont listen to Fever (about anything) you will fail the refugee status thing:
You are white
You speak english
You are (hopefully) not a criminal
You will potentially contribute to society
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Adopted child birth certificate -- Fay Morris-Eyton, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 11:56:53 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za/196.25.255.250)
Hi there all,
Thank you so much for all of your input. I have taken down all the notes and will attempt trying all avenues now. Thanks very much. Just to answer a few. Yes i am in SA, no i dont want to do the refugee thing (thanks), i have my birth fathers NAME , thats all i am entitled to (after much under counter exchanges) and as far as i know , he is deceased and was NOT born in UK. The dept of Social Welfare will not release ANY information to adoptive children , lovely stuff isnt it ??? But my "father" (adoptive) was born in the UK and i am almost positive i can get a british passport. Let me give it all a try , thanks for your help everyone !!!! Regards, Fay Morris-Eyton
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The Three Pastors -- ray, Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 0:20:40 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Three pastors decided to go fishing after a busy Sunday.
Sitting by the river with little response from the hooks one pastor thought of sharing his heart with others:
Guys, it would be good if we look into our lives and help each other with our weaknesses". They all agreed to this.
This pastor said " Gentlemen I need help! I cant help taking money form the collection, first a little but now I take a big chunk. I can't stop stealing from the church please pray for me. The day they will find out I will be fired"!
Another pastor said "brothers, your sins are better than mine! I have slept with every woman in the church including married women. If this is discovered people will not fire me, they will kill me!"
The last pastor stood up and said " My brothers, my problem is I am an extremely compulsive gossiper! I cannot help it. This is going to get me into big trouble, I fear.
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Fay -- fever, Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 20:23:16 (t12-07.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.198)
Fay, get to Calais, get on a ferry, chuck your passport away, tell 'em you a refugee, within 5 yrs, you a citizen, strew as.
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British Passport -- maggi, Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 8:26:19 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
Fay, is there any chance you can find out who your paternal father was ? If he was British born, and I mean in the UK, not Rhodesia/Zambia etc of Brit descent, and you have proof of this then you should be able to claim rights to a Brit passport. I can try get an answer from people in the UK, but it may take a while...
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Fay -- Barbara, Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 1:03:53 (CPE-121-210-243-80.qld.bigpond.net.au/121.210.243.80)
Fay, for help in getting your Zim birth certificate go here...
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/zim_pc.html
As far as I know the adopted child's nationality if she was born in wedlock, is that of the father. If out of wedlock, that of the mother. This is what the ruling used to be in Britain - it may have changed.
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. -- ray, Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 22:10:29 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Fay the best is to go to the British Embassy or consulate, you are in SA right.. they will let you know what THEY think you should do. If what they tell you is unacceptable then you last resort would be to consult a reliable ethical immigration attorney that will tell you if this is true, but be careful some attorneys will sell you false hope to collect money. Otherwise..:
Wikipedia's version of British Law.
British citizenship by adoption
A child adopted by a British citizen only acquires British citizenship automatically if:
* the adoption order is made by a court in the United Kingdom, Channel Islands, Isle of Man or Falkland Islands on or after 1 January 1983, or in another British Overseas Territory on or after 21 May 2002; or
* it is a Convention adoption under the 1993 Hague Convention on Intercountry Adoption effected on or after 1 June 2003 and the adopters are habitually resident in the United Kingdom on that date.
In both cases, at least one adoptive parent must be a British citizen on the date of the adoption.
In all other cases, an application for registration of the child as a British citizen must be made before the child is age 18. Usually this will be granted provided the Secretary of State accepts the adoption is bona fide and the child would have been a British citizen if the natural child of the adopters. Usually the adoption must have taken place under the law of a 'designated country' (most developed nations along with some others are 'designated' for this purpose) and be recognised in the UK. This is the standard method for children adopted by British citizens permanently resident overseas to acquire British citizenship.
The cancellation or annulment of an adoption order does not cause loss of British citizenship acquired by that adoption.
British children adopted by non-British nationals do not lose British nationality, even if they acquire a foreign nationality as a result of the adoption.
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Assistance required -- Fay Morris - Eyton, Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 18:22:54 (wblv-ip-pcache-8-vif1.telkom-ipnet.co.za/198.54.202.250)
I wonder if anyone out there can assist me. I was adopted in Zimbabwe in 1970. My adopted father was born in the UK , i have a vault copy of his unabridged birth certificate. I have been told that because I am adopted I CAN NOT apply for a British Passport. Others have told me that is a load of nonsense. How would i go about applying for my unabridged birth certificate in Zim and also does anyone know if these comments are true. I really would appreciate any assistance.
Kind regards,
Fay
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. -- Ray, Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 14:55:55 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
In lalapanzi Dawie was telling a woman what nice tits she had, and she liked it, the only problem her Professor husband overheard this, Pete and I had to hold her husband down..
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Dawie... -- BOB2, Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 8:01:56 (mk-airlines-rtr-e1.hiway.co.uk/195.12.0.225)
....what does make shit with chicks mean....Fever I think Dawie must be a bullit bandit...who knows..go figure??
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nafai -- dawie, Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 7:08:31 (vc-41-30-207-208.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.207.208)
juisie fever if you dont know what that means you must be a nafie like bob.ask ray he has had first hand experiance at lalapanzie years back after a car full of booze.armstrong will take the lead in the tour today hope he pulls this off.
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Dawie... -- fever, Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 2:54:25 (t05-15.opera-mini.net/94.246.126.94)
... what does make shit with chicks mean, lol.
Welcome back, mgBob, hope you had a lekker joll, no robberies, etc.
(Ozzies whingeing like Poms re 1st Ashes Test tactics
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Good migrations: Britons moving abroad -- Bob, Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 11:45:15 (macanp1.lnk.telstra.net/203.45.105.55)
Would you swap rainy, recession-ravaged Britain for a new life? More of us are choosing to emigrate – and you don't have to be young and carefree to join the exodus
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/jun/27/emigration-jobseeking
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dave duncan -- dawie, Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 10:24:54 (vc-41-27-43-156.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.27.43.156)
jaslike are you saying bob is dave duncan would be about 55 or so and went to allan wilson tech end up in the airforce. where has he gone anyway it was nice to go away for a few weeks and come to bt and get all the old news. jo pete had a bender last night attended the wife dragged me away after the second bottle of red and 8 beers before i could make shit with the young chicks he had over dam.
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Trying to locate -- David Canning, Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 9:45:26 (0x4dd56ee4.adsl.cybercity.dk/77.213.110.228)
Hi to all.
I recently chatted to Bekker Brits, ex Inyazura, who now lives in Australia. Bekker asked me to try locate a friend, Dave Canning, who was working on the mines in Chimoio Mozambique, around the 1995-2003 time. He worked with Dave Reeves.
Does anyone know Daves' whereabouts? Dave Canning that is. If so, please drop me an email to longstaff10@gmail.com
Mant muchly thanks.
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Who is Bob ? -- Poirot, Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 4:24:31 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)
The fellow who posted lurid details of his nanny exploits was Dave Duncan who worked for MK Airlines , and now he posts as Bob - still with MK Airlines..
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Where is Bob? -- anon -- BOB2, Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 13:30:51 (mk-airlines-rtr-e1.hiway.co.uk/195.12.0.225)
Hey anon did you know that Michael Jackson died he pitched up at the purley gates behind Farah Fawset just after she had wished that all the kids in the world would be safe....
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Sorry Ray -- Jimbo, Thu, 09 Jul 2009, 0:35:36 (220-253-30-57.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.30.57)
Sorry Ray, you have the wrong end of the stick. The food fight was Nellies kids from the Western Force. Brumbies have a mean team for next year.
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Where is Bob? -- anon, Wed, 08 Jul 2009, 22:15:10 (212-166-170-109.red-acceso.airtel.net/212.166.170.109)
I've been waiting for Bob to post his hot news that none of us is privy to but that he has because he's on the on the inside track....Michael Jackson is reported to have died, Bob. Where are ya Bob? Keep us informed for God's sake.
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. -- Ray, Wed, 08 Jul 2009, 6:30:14 (NoHost/76.251.75.110)
Jimbo Jimbo, if the Brumbies are as good in the S14 as they are with food fights, then you should just make sure there are plenty of pies on the field to throw into ole Bakkies Bothas eyes...
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Geez dawie -- Jimbo, Wed, 08 Jul 2009, 0:52:23 (220-253-32-156.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.32.156)
Geez dawie have you been going to English for Seniors classes. Punctuation of sorts, spaces, s...man don't shock me like that. Go the Brumbies, 2010 Super 14's champs. As they say helluva thing. You heard it here first.
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rugby -- maggi, Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 21:40:27 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
j/p what went wrong, we do not have satelite, and away in Canberra, so this was disappointing to read on-line. all very well reading the papers, but on-screen/live is always much better.
dawie, super 14 last year in Canberra was great. Crowds big, but no nastiness I could see. infact, the bloke to my right shared his headphones with me, he was connected to the commentary box, and that was great. my daughters boyfriend is a brumbies boy so there was a lot of ribbing going on then. Hoping next year there will be some games closer to us. This year was dissapointing in super 14, nothing i wanted to see...
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Bokke -- Jo Pete (disdainfull), Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 19:32:10 (41-208-48-164.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.164)
Yo EBT. After he Bokke display on Saturday I wouldn't even go to the Embrayageville Oval to watch them klap the Moffies.
Now Dawie wants me to take my own dop to his pozzie to watch the neighbour's big screen over the wall. Bloody cheek.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 16:05:39 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Micael Jackson's casket is in downtown Los Angeles today surrounded by security guards. (They are to make sure that all boys under ten are kept more than arms reach from the casket.)
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rugby again etc -- dawie, Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 12:19:29 (vc-41-30-151-36.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.30.151.36)
ja guys i worked out for a season of ticket one can get a giant screen at home invite the likes of jo pete to bring beers braai latter bottle of sherry or port like ALLESVERLOORONE around a kak praat fire no drive home. all sleep over. maggi sounds like you people are on the ball in aussie for crowds gee its poor here. i cant imagine the kak joe pete and i would get into in aussie together its bad enough here. trip to the zambesie on for next year house boat and house in binga anyone want to come hope things sorted in zim by then.
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rugby again -- maggi, Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 10:11:53 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
sorry, Dawie you were asking, Canberra when we went to the Super 14 last year was not bad. We walked from our hotel - about 10 min - to the stadium, easy to get in and out. Car parks were full but well organised, ditto Sydney.
john and i were very honored a while back to be introduced to Thierry Lacroix, French rugby captain 1995. very interesting man to listen to, very intelligent and good friends with my all time rugby hero Andre Joubert. we had been invited to an aus/french evening, and his love for the game is very obvious. it was interesting to find out he played in KZN for some time as well.
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Rugby -- maggi, Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 10:03:46 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
Yep John it is a long way to go, just thinking anyway. Mind you this time of year, possibly go down to the club to watch. At least they have log fires going.
Dawie, we signed on with Ticketek (!!) so we do get advanced notification for rugby, pop-concerts etc etc etc.... if i do get all my ducks in a row however, planning for NZ 2011. Match schedule already out, tickets apparently go on sale early next year, that will be worth the effort.
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Howzit BT -- John W, Mon, 06 Jul 2009, 23:26:35 (adlgw1.baulderstone.com.au/203.37.164.2)
Maggi, long way to go to watch 80 mins of deVilliers crap, in my opinion.
Besides, I agree with dawie.
It's no pleasure to go and watch a game anymore coz of transport hassles, queueing, poor beer in plastic cups, etc., etc.!
Far better to watch the Boks on the Box, with your muckers and decent beer and 'tong!
A mate has got me tickets for the Brissie game and I'm seriously contemplating turning them down !
Will probably go and see TCITPSS in the great West, where the sun sets over the sea and also take in Bud Cockroft and the Perth Zimfest !
dawie and JouMoerPiet - see you in Perth !
Maybe Jimbo COG will join us at the 'Hondo' at TCITPSS's pozzie !
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tri nations -- dawie, Mon, 06 Jul 2009, 10:25:25 (vc-41-29-77-185.umts.vodacom.co.za/41.29.77.185)
been looking for a tri nation fixtures anyone know. maggi l guess about 800 plus rand is cheap do the prices say in queenland to western aussie stay the same for a test match . whats it like to get in and out of the game, here its terrible now in south africa, i stayed at home and put a braai on turned off in the end now the critics are blameing the players. i dont think the boks know the rules the coach should take the blame for the blunders. well played the lions again. jimbo jo pete and i have thought about a trip for the tri nation so look out.
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oops Springbok -- maggi, Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 22:20:07 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
oops,
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Springbob / Wallabies -- Maggi, Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 22:18:30 (ppp121-44-39-59.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net/121.44.39.59)
Hi Wens. We're debating whether to see the Springbok/Wallaby game in Brisbane in Sept. Platinum tickets are selling at $139.00 - not too bad the price. Still would be good to go watch.
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Adolf -- P, Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 15:34:05 (iburst-41-213-126-5.iburst.co.za/41.213.126.5)
Probably a Goff. Possibly spawn of Hitler Hunzwe, hence the name. Racist due to self hatred. Bit like Adolf hitler hater Jews because he was part Jewish .
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JULY BRAAI -- Caro, Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 4:38:41 (77-100-197-31.cable.ubr07.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk/77.100.197.31)
Just moving this up again and will continue to do so-
It is the time of year coming up for the July Braai last weekend in July held at Beechwood .
Booking forms for July Braai are available from the following site: http://rpcuk.synthasite.com/
Caro :-)
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