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109 shino 2 over 4 -- dawie, Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 12:00:00 (dsl-240-43-46.telkomadsl.co.za/41.240.43.46)
jimbo you dont want a three over three press you must be irish two over four pal 109cm a1 send order and payment i will come to instal stay now two months with you, jopete is out of work so he is comeing to help lokk at www.shinohara.com . ow you cant win this one jimbo. so guns in durban ready to go to zim on a chinese boat mmmm
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Chinese Burn -- Bob, Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 11:05:34 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
And we have the latest in a series of films from Tim Whewell on China's growing involvement in Africa. Tonight he reports from Zambia where Chinese investors - once offered a warm welcome - now stand accused of neo-colonialism.
NEWSNIGHT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
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Whatever -- Jimbo, Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 10:45:20 (220-253-153-45.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.153.45)
Patrick, Mugape and his cronies do not need to fuel up from our comments,they have plenty of fuel of their own. You obviously have not worked out from your limited experience that the munt is a bigger racist than any of us. Have a look at any country in Africa, and the tribal killings that go on, and all the success stories (0). When you are faced with a woman with her lips, nose and ears cut off for just speaking to us, what does that tell you?We survived for as long as we did because the munt knew that we wouldn't take any of his crap. He respects that, because basically the Shona in particular is a coward. Your mealy mouthed lets work together approach the munt sees as a sign of weakness, and will bite you off at the shoulder as quick as look at you. That is why Mugape is in charge, they see him as strong, while we see him as an psychopathic killer.
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Partick (Thistle or otherwise) -- KB, Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 8:55:41 (host86-128-14-51.range86-128.btcentralplus.com/86.128.14.51)
Point of order guv;
There were black officers in every mixed unit, Signals, Services as well as RAR. They were all drawn from senior NCOs. Mostly Lieutenants a few Captains and at least 2 were awaiting staff officer courses. If memory serves one of the last fatalities was a Lt in SScouts.
Very few of the opinions here are drivel (apart from yours) all borne are out with fact, yours is merely suposition and misguided opinion.
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Proud to be White? -- Patrick (Always Chilled), Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 7:36:50 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
Preference, I too am proud to be white Anglo-Saxon descendent of Germanic-Vikings etc etc. That doesn't mean I have to hate all other races. Far from it we need to accept our differences and work together else duck to the US,Oz,UK etc. Okes wake-up, your statements on here simply fuel Muagbe's propaganda machine. I.e. "Hoards of racist white farmers on the borders waiting to grab our land back". Never mind that it was never his land in the first place mostly unoccupied Bundu.
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RAR -- Patrick (Always Chilled), Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 7:23:09 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
Anon. I can only repeat what I've read, the more you tell me the more we youngsters will learn, I don't want to have fights about the Rhodesian Army as a youngster they were my heroes and still are. That being said the most senior NCO is still junior, to create leaders to fight Mugabe you would have required Senior commissioned officers. Anyway the Army was just an example Rhodesia failed miserably to create Black Leaders and hence there was a power vacuum which has been filled by Mugabe and co with a sheeplike population who are and never were able or equipped to take him on. Bottom line in 1979/80 we had a gutless Muzorewa as a leader and a result we lost everything. I was 13 then.
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Preference -- Jimbo, Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 4:13:16 (220-253-153-45.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.153.45)
dawie, I prefer A1 size and a six/three over three. Is that too big for you? I can send you an order today, and your cheque is in the post. What's the pricing in real money not your depreciating rand. Yen or US dollars will do.
Patrick sonny boy, you are now getting very personal and insulting if you compare me to a slope. I don't mind the racist tag, in fact I am proud of being white, and my ancestors fought long and hard for me to be here today. You are obviously ashamed of being white. If you pass that fault on to future generations, your line will eventually die out or become coffee coloured. Get some backbone.
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RAR -- anon, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 20:03:41 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
Patrick, you are a know it all. If you put the link at the bottom into your browser you will see a photo of what looks like a black man wearing an RAR cap badge on his beret and a lieutenants' pips on his shoulder. As for "everything I've read only points to junior NCOs" once again you could not be more wrong as every single senior NCO, from sergeant to WO1 RSM was black. "Not senior officers"....no-one said there were any black senior officers. I suspect you know jack shit about the Rhodesian Army. If you are representative of the Zimbabwean-Rhodesian generation it's no wonder the country has gone down the drain.
http://www.rhodesian.net/rhodesian_african_rifles.htm
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Gordon Brown ignores Mbeki snub to declare that Mugabe has lost election -- Ray, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 18:53:42 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
England Prime Minister Gordon Brown ignores Mbeki snub to declare that Mugabe has lost election.
-Headline in The Times Of London.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3758995.ece
Otherwise and apart from that it is just business as usual in Zimbabwe.
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. -- ray, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 16:13:29 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
I agree Jo pete Mugape is just a figurehead, his cronies are running the show.
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maids and garden boys -- dawie, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 12:40:15 (dsl-242-123-175.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.123.175)
we are all good owns except for jopete he dribbles roasts on the carpet from the braai. its like now look at the mess there pat we dont trust any of our african leaders crisis what christ they are worse to each other than to the whites.
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Black and white Cat -- Patrick (always chilled), Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 12:25:17 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
Its good to have a laugh Chinas. But just remember not everyone is going to hold their sides and wet themselves with the pathic racist drivel being spewed out. Put your selves in the shoes of your so called M..ts and K.....rs and you may not find things quite so amusing. I want to be involved in putting things right in Rhobabwe one day. Underneath you probably all pretty good okes, just chill on the race issue. You okes remind me of the Afrikaaner I knew who wanted al blacks gone except his maid and gardener.
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pat and his black and white cat sorry black only -- dawie, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 11:48:10 (dsl-242-123-175.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.123.175)
you a wop, do you think we are all stupid do you think we dont know do you think we dragging you along jopete will eat you for sadza china and me john w jimbo and even maggie if you get her on an off day we know we know but its fun here china have some boom with us and relax. we cant damage zim more than it is and kissing arse now will not help anyone anyhow ahhh i love this place. so jimbo are you takeing a four or six colour and what sheet size do you want got a special on a2 today.
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True Green and White -- Patrick, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 11:26:42 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
I still believe Rhodesians never die, I also believe that being Rhodesian isn't the exclusive domain of White supremacists or former RF supporters who effectively helped create Mugabe and his gangsters. As for Black RAR Officers everything I've read points only to junior NCOs and not senior officers, but this may have changed. All you racists should realise that the black Rhodesian Army probably saved most of us from an early demise, the Selous Scouts had large numbers of black recruits who were often some of the best troops. Its time to stop the racism and focus on the communist gangsters that have brutalised and destroyed our magnificent country. You're just giving Mugabe the ammunition he needs and creating enemies of our allies. This is the Rhodesian Forum, you need to go to the AWB or KKK forum and vent your spleen.
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Our Cuzzes -- Jo Pete, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 6:25:18 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Welcome back Honor. I am ex Bots/Zim Pete. I must take you to task. Do you honestly believe that if Zim had been white ruled it would be in it's present situation? Even Nazi Germany was better than this, unless you were a Jew. In Hitler's defence he knew a few things about Jews. Who has heard of the Brandenburg Convention, about 1882? So Honor I do not consider us a bunch of rambling ,racist old farts, just realists.
Zim, and the many parts of Africa in which I have worked and travelled, are ample testimony to the Cuzzes character and ability.I am watching the backward slide of my adopted country. The pattern of deterioration here is remarkably siomilar to Rhodesia.
But Pamberi ne muntus (&kaffirs)
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coming to south africa jimbo -- dawie, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 6:11:40 (dsl-242-123-175.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.123.175)
lovely jimbo just send the order for your shino four colour with payment shipment two weeks to you i send ticket hotel at jopetes place you fly you buy. very quite here on the news about zim altho the anc has given thabo a rev the last few days, me thinks the anc is curbing things coming out. pat dont put your self down so much boet eh sorry nointention dawie
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How do we feed the world in the future? -- Bob, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 5:37:54 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
Rising food prices, rising population, growing poverty and climate change are becoming a major problem for the world.
Newsnight is devoting tonight’s programme to examine this global crisis.
We've lined up correspondents in some of the countries feeling the strain most acutely to tell us what the situation is like on the ground.
We have films by Susan Watts – on whether we need a second green revolution – and Liz MacKean - on the £8bn of food we bin every year.
We’ll also have a panel of international experts on hand to discuss the problem.
We’d like to know what you think..
What are the solutions to these problems?
Newsnight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
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When? -- Jimbo, Wed, 16 Apr 2008, 4:54:07 (220-253-158-148.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.158.148)
I'd love to come over for the show dawie. When can I expect my plane tickets? I'm not so sure about staying at DimPetes kia, but I suppose it is better than nothing.
Patrick this forum is the wrong place for you, just in case you hadn't worked that out. Honor, still in the land of the living and still with your head in the sand? Working for that other dumb game called league? I'm a happy old fart incidentally, ask anyone who knows me.
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:-o, -- phil stein, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 23:59:16 (f143-054.opera-mini.net/195.189.143.54)
Jaaslik, don't tell me you arguing about the definit4on of a kaffir.
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Wot is happening here -- Rudolph, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 23:45:26 (mail22.anonymouse.org/85.195.119.22)
is the site being turned into an Alcoholics Anonymous type repentance gathering for the kbs:
"Hello. My name is Patrick and I'm a kaffir boetie"
Neville, Grandma, Mbuya Mkiwa, JoPete, Patrick, Honor etc etc "Hello Patrick"
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testing anonymiser -- anon, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 20:31:50 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
hmmm. back to the drawing board
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testing anonymiser -- anonymous, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 20:30:32 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
xxx
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RAR black officers -- anon, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 20:14:35 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
Patrick posts: "Th RAR should have had black officers."
The RAR did have black officers.
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Howzit BT -- John W, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 18:27:02 (NoHost/213.42.23.71)
Hey, Honour...
long time no see...
you're so right...
about us old fogies...
we're still "the baas"...
always will be.
Some things never change...
like a leopard doesn't change it's spots...
like a Kaf-Munt will always be...
a Kaf-Munt.
You KNOW the expression...
You can take a kaf-Munt out of the Bush....
but you can NEVER take the....etc, etc....
The entire African continent has got a wonderful track record and I'm afraid, this one "old fogie", has lost the will to be forgiving and prepared to condone.
I say again...
I know a few awsome African Gentlemen...
but, unfortunately, the majority are....
well I guess, you guessed it.
Finito.
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True Green and White -- Honor James, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 16:49:19 (host217-37-140-62.in-addr.btopenworld.com/217.37.140.62)
Thank you PATRICK.
Seems this forum is now visited more or less exclusively by a handful of grumpy old fogies who kid themselves they are the `real Rhodesians'.
No harm in that, although clearly they `took the gap' sooner or later like so many others (black and white, by the way) because we feared (justifiably!) for our children's future.
This lot seem not to want to get over not being the `baas' any more, that's all.
A bit floppy, maybe, but not a crime.
Cheers all. Back to work. :-)
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zim goes to work -- dawie, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 14:08:37 (dsl-242-123-175.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.123.175)
iam told the majority went to work in bulawayo and harare today well thats where the food is i guess so would i. jo pete now behave if we want free dop in aussie we got to look after jimbo here, just invite the bull dog and a few other ex wives its going to be fine we split the bill on the dop and boom john w is bringing boom in any case.jimbo can sleep with jock on the veranda at least you get the bed back with bicky then see jimbos helping here boet
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UUUUGGGGHHHH -- Jo Pete, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 13:13:17 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Dawie tjoon me you are shittin me. JIMBO(TOT) coming here? Shit no. Then you offer him a place at my pozzie? Amongst my women?Are you completely MAL? Mind you he may get luckier than me. Unlikely, but it could happen. Maybe this is what he deserves. Maybe it's a good thing he pulls in at my pozzie, as long as he brings his own dop and boom. Not giving him any of mine. Women are one thing but dop? No ways.
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True Green and White -- Patrick, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 10:17:35 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
By calling all black people demeaning names like munt, you fail to destinguish between genuine good people and the type of Psycho Sociopath that now runs our country. This was Ian Smith's biggest mistake. He and his regime failed to build a Black elite to take over when the time had come. We had plenty of black people who fought and died for Rhodesia, people who I would rather know and befriend than you Duchmen. Th RAR should have had black officers, SAS should have been multi-racial and in the end instead of a muppet idiot like Muzorewa to lead our country we may of had someone strong who could fight Muggob.
I was born in Rhodesia and like most Rhodies was brought up by black people when my folks were at work. When Zim arrived I went to boarding school with black people and don't mind being what Duchmen call a K.....boetie. Bu I do hate the murdering Psychopaths that now run my beloved country.
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Zimbabwe -- Bob, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 9:46:23 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
Zimbabwe Court Deals Major Blow to Opposition Party
On Monday, Zimbabwe's highest court refused to order the release of presidential election results -- dealing a blow to the opposition party, which says its leader defeated President Robert Mugabe in the vote. NPR's Ofeibea Quist-Arcton provides an update from Harare.
MARGARET WARNER: Today's court decision in Zimbabwe refusing to order the release of delayed election results prolongs the political stalemate there.
In an election two weeks ago, the opposition party won a majority of the parliamentary seats, but the presidential election results are still being withheld by the electoral commission, pending what it called "verification."
Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai said he won the presidential contest against President Robert Mugabe, who has ruled Zimbabwe for 28 years. In the meantime, the opposition says many of its supporters have been attacked or arrested since the voting took place.
For more on the situation in Zimbabwe, we turn to Ofeibea Quist-Arcton of National Public Radio. She's in Harare.
And, Ofeibea, thank you for being with us. What's been the reaction today to this court ruling?
Transcript - Audio - Video
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/africa/jan-june08/waiting_04-14.html
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trans lesski -- dawie, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 9:33:05 (dsl-242-123-175.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.123.175)
hey john w if you comeing south pullin and check jopete and i a few ales on my house boat on the weekend always on here in germiston china. thought jimbo may come vist us as well. we have a print show here 13 to 15 may 2008 come on jimbo i need an old shinohara man to support us you can stay with jopete for ten days. heard the armys out in force in zim no reports of too much yet.
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Howzit BT -- John W., Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 8:56:19 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
ZZDRCetcJoMoerPiet.....
you are not alone in here...
You forget I'm similar to you, also with ears close to ground zero...
my take is that Ebagum would have disappeared last time, quite happily, if he was accorded hero status and a healthy stipend to add to his already sizeable stash....however, he is frightened, along with his Cronies, Generals, Commissioner of ZRP, etc., a.) as to what will happen to them when they do not have control of the depleted gravytrain, and b.) they still want control of the gravytrain, at all costs.
Right now, Ebagum is encircled by abovementioned characters and what will happen is that nothing will change, short term and in a couple of years time Ebagum WILL be allowed to bow out gracefully as a hero, with the higher echelon being re-shuffled to suit themselves and ZanuPF making overtures to placate the west(for their aid), not that they matter anymore, and with increasing dependence on China and Asia, the new colonial masters.
That's reality, Bwanas and Medems.
TTFN....
I'm off to look for Lusikisiki Gold.....
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Sand -- Jimbo, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 8:39:54 (220-253-38-176.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.38.176)
Hey Winter, have you got sand in your Speedos again. Go kiss a camel.
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Zimbabwe -- Maggi, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 8:39:22 (ppp121-44-91-108.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.91.108)
J/P - lets just say coup d'etat - simple, understandable and most likely very true, just no one wants to actually say that word... (hope my spelling is correct)
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Our black cuzzins -- Jo Pete, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 7:08:22 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. All this plolitical correctness. One of the major lessons I've learnt in life is this: I have met some really good munts. So they look like kaffirs, not their fault. They really are just munts, I kid you not. So the oke that you are calling a kaffir may be a JAM (just a munt)
People here still do not believe me when I tell you that Bobojaan has become just a puppet of the military, who are planning a take over of Zim.You may be interested to know that this view is share by that John Makumba oke, that albino political science prof at UZ. He is an astute fellow who normally knows what goes on.
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Howzit BT -- John W., Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 7:00:42 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
seems like Mugabeki is another one of those er....Kaf-Munts....
Just for the record and....
on the subject of Mugabeki....
I reckon the shit he smokes.....
is stronger than Jimbo's Geelong Gold...
most probably it's Lusikisiki Gold.
This accounts for the "Crisis? What Crisis?" statement....
and Jimbo's somewhat hazy view on Rugby and.....
well, life in general!
Anyway, dawie, ZZDRCetcJoMoerPiet and moi, are really looking forward to testing Jimbo's weed....I'm doing a swing past Transkei next week and will pick up some Lusikisiki...
so as we can do this scientifically when in Geeit'slong in November...this experiment we will conduct at the same time as testing Jimbo's dop....if he has any.....miserable bugger is probably out there right now stashing it all away in a hole in the ground...a technique he learned from the Gooks.
TTFN
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China in Africa -- Bob, Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 4:50:52 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
We have the first of a series of fascinating films from Tim Whewell in Africa - looking at the ever-growing influence of China on the continent. There are now 700 Chinese firms operating in 49 African countries. And, even though it's still classed as a developing nation, China has sunk more than £12bn into developing Africa's infrastructure since the year 2000. The biggest China-in-Africa deal so far is about to be signed - between China and the Democratic Republic of Congo. If it goes ahead, it will have a huge influence on the Congolese people - even though it's barely known about in the country. Tim has been there to find out how it will work - you can read his article here.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/7343060.stm
Watch Newsnight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
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Are you being too harsh, Ray? -- James S, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 21:37:16 (21Cust34.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.34)
RAY: Aren't you being just a tad too harsh on poor old Hank the W? Are you sure it is his posting? I mean, the rapier like wit and sense of fun in the posting seems just a bit out of character for Mr. Hank the Wanker - as if someone else penned it.
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ouma stick to gumming your rusks -- Rudolph, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 20:58:59 (mail22.anonymouse.org/85.195.119.22)
It seems that the grandma who posted below is the old cow that got run over by a reindeer. Or was it by a scotch cart piloted by one of her kaffir compatriots? Or both? Or all 3?
She does raise one point worth thinking about, well her and Neville (I wonder if he's that same ugly Abo called Neville in Crocodile Dundee) about having not learned anything in last 25 years? She has illustrated the fact that there's no fool like an old fool.
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Robert Mugabe was asked when he was going to bid the Zimbabwean people farewell -- anon, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 20:09:15 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
This joke was first told re Franco. Franco was supposedly lying on his deathbed in Madrid and as word got out that he was dying a large crowd assembled outside. Franco heard them and asked what was going on. It's your people, Caudillo, they have come to say goodbye. Goodbye? Where are they going?
A few days later the same crowd dutifully trotted past his body lying in state. A tv reporter asked one solemn man - So, senor, you have come to say your sad farewell to the Generalissimo? No, I came to see for myself the bastard was really dead.
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. -- ray, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 17:43:50 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
dont get bitter now, Hanky, now that we eliminated the Bozeman Bozo's Cuthroat rugby team from the western conference...
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Dinna do it Marvo -- Munich Eunich, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 17:35:39 (mail22.anonymouse.org/85.195.119.22)
neville don't put adolf to the test. james s did and now he says goodnight to his nuts each night as they reside in a jar of vinegar on his bedside table along with a signed photo of kaptein krunchie
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. -- Ray, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 16:53:01 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Nevillle, Neville, Neville, maybe the reason why the present Zimbabwean situation did not draw much comment here is becuase the old dawgs here have seen it all and they knew that the Mugape will not let go of his power hold until the angel of death comes, and even the angel is slow and behind. And even if it comes I am sure the Shonas will find somone else to shut out the Matabeles.
And no matter what name you come up for those non-reflective goons in power, it always eventually becomes a pejorative, so come up with new names continuously.
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jopete john sand in bum and clutch plate dawie -- dawie, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 11:30:24 (dsl-242-127-56.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.127.56)
what a team to tour aussie we will come and see everyone on the way to the black stump. just heard everyone in bulawayo to stay home tuesday and indoors dawie
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Howzit BT -- John W., Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 11:08:31 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
Robert Mugabe was asked when he was going to bid the Zimbabwean people farewell.
Looking puzzled, he answered,
"Where are they going?"
BTW, for the benefit of Gran, Neville, and the PC'ers on BT....
Robert Mugabe is the EPITOME of the Zot, Kaffir, etc., we others refer to....
On the other hand I know some fine African Gentlemen...
Get it? Verstaan jy? Comprendo?
What would YOU call RGM ????
TTFN
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Too close -- Jimbo, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 10:30:07 (220-253-40-207.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.40.207)
Maggi, please don't invite them to your town, it is too close to me, and they might entertain the idea of driving on. If they do, tell them to turn right at the Murray and keep going for three days to get to me.
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Landing -- maggi, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 10:06:30 (ppp121-44-91-108.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.91.108)
Dawie, dunno what your plans are, but if you and JP find yourself coming our way, pls let us know -
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trip to aussie -- dawie, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 9:37:50 (dsl-242-127-56.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.127.56)
maggi iam looking at november so a while to go yet
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LOL -- Maggi, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 8:46:12 (218-214-1-209.people.net.au/218.214.1.209)
Hi Dawie, thought with all the experience you could teach the recruits a thing or two ?? :) - it is a base camp here in Wagga... when do you land ? just behave at the airports no sense of humours there..
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dawie clutch plate -- dawie, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 7:46:22 (dsl-242-127-56.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.127.56)
well well well i go away for a weekend and you all start fighting and bring your granma along to help. jimbo we pulling in to nellie in any case to bum off him. do you think we stupid. now maggie where is this place cant remember the name kallgoo or something what is it are you paying for jopete and i thanks a lot, guess its a prison or something the likes of. munt in fact means the people the manna altho its not nice. if you look at my postings i dont generaly call any one kaffirs etc its not my way , we all know the score anyway. hey none of us here know whats going on in zim so we cant tell you granma so shut up and find out for us on a zim site. also this is a rhodesian place not zimbos place. jopete yes i think iam the sole clutch plate here.
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The Scramble for Africa -- Bob, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 6:11:56 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
1420s-1430s: Canary Islands and the Azores settled by the Portuguese.
1500-1850 Height of Atlantic SlaveTrade: Approximately 11 million slaves shipped from Africa, ca 1450-1850 (but the numbers are controversial).
1570: Portuguese establish colony in Angola.
1652: Dutch establish colony at Cape of Good Hope, South Africa; and colonizing Boers ("farmers"), or Afrikaners, begin settling large farms at the expense of San and Khoikhoi, non-Bantu speakers of the region.
1798: Napoleon's campaign in Egypt
http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/imperialism/notes/scrambleforafricachron.html
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Here I am -- Jimbo, Mon, 14 Apr 2008, 5:24:45 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
Here I am, that terrible person who still calls the black indigenous of Africa kaffirs, munts, stills and Adolf you forgot Jungle Bunnies. What a terrible person I am for calling a spade a spade and voting for the RF instead of RP. Calling them garden boys or cook boys. Gee I hope that the ZANU boys are reading this and it lets them know that some of their masters are still out here watching them stuff a beautiful country, and waiting for them to commit hari kari. Shock, horror, who voted them in in the first place when we advised them not to. The only thing I can say is ,we told you so. If you don't like the truth and reality, go back and stick your head in the sand. I bet you critics are living a lovely comfortable life and well fed somewhere else in the world. Now that is my side of the debate.
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English -- Roger, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 23:44:11 (222-155-117-226.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.155.117.226)
European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.
As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English'.
In the first year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced with 'f'. This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where! more komplikated changes are possible.
Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.
Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.
By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as
replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v'.
During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vordskontaining 'ou' and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.
Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.
Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.
If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl.
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Not ham, purleees. Cucumber, isn't it - with the crusts cut orf -- only when strictly necessary (nice to see you .......), Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 22:35:38 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
........ to see you, nice!
Ham eaten? Nah! Just busy getting on with getting on, mostly.
Working - gotta eat .... and pay the mortgage (how do you spell morgage?)
Doesn't matter.
This latest pantomime has had me checking up again, of course. Mostly on the Zim Situation site because it's news we need .... Was hoping to read some good news but that's looking less and less likely by the day.
Good to know there's still one sane person on the BT, anyway.
See ya.
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hmm -- KB, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 21:40:58 (host86-128-14-51.range86-128.btcentralplus.com/86.128.14.51)
Mamma C - I thought the ham sarnie gotcha :-0
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eeek .... out of the woodwork! -- Mama Cas, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 20:53:42 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
Well,waaddayaknow .... who goes there!!!
Never could spell, couldya Killy B
Howzit?
;-)
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Body Polotic -- KB, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 20:30:51 (host86-128-14-51.range86-128.btcentralplus.com/86.128.14.51)
Most of the postings may not be politically correct, they are just correct.
Dead impressed that Gordy Brown has got time to view this forum, what with the world econnomy in melt down - must make a nice break. LOL
Its a wind up surely, and Adolf and Nev drink must dring in the same pub. ;-)
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Bantu - people: Muntu - person -- Mbuya Mkiwa, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 19:13:53 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
Oh dear!
We can all do that stuff, I'm sure, but it doesn't reall cut much ice, now does it!
A few words of fangalo here and there make no kind of a Shona or Ndebele, or Karanga or Batonka or any other tribesperaon from Africa that you care to mention.
The glaring truth is, Robert Mugabe and his henchmen must love this forum.
Any time they are having a bit of trouble persuading a foreign government, or visiting SADCC summit, to back them to the hilt again because it is a plot by `white Rhodesians' (which meant, and by definition is still synonymous with `white racist bigots'), all they need to do is introduce them to this forum, then sit down and enjoy a cup tea in the shade of the Jacaranda .....
and laugh quietly behind their hands.
If people on this forum who post mindless, pseudo Rhodie claptrap had any real care for Zimbaweans, white and black who are living under the most difficult and dangerous of circumstances, they would not fan the flames of Mugabe's intractable race hatred by blundering around in their own like a school of half-beached jellyfish.
No wonder so many real Rhodesians have stopped posting here.
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Granma's ISPandPC -- Oom Dawie, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 17:23:49 (h27.21.89.75.ip.alltel.net/75.89.21.27)
Ah Granma...you may understand a little about ISP's and nothing about munts, but please when you want to add or correct a posting, just try and use the "edit".
Incidentally 'muntu' (munhu)is a common shona word meaning person.
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POLITICAL CORRECTNESS (continued) -- Grandmother, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 17:13:50 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
As I was about to say, before being rudely interrupted by a wayward little finger that posted my last, incomplete, remarks .......
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
The new blunt instrument of the politically barely literate.
The loony right accuse you of political correctness, and naively image that by doing so they indisputably demonstrate that their opinions are appropriate and yours are not.
The loony left accuse you of being politically incorrect, and naively image that by doing so they indisputably demonstrate that their opinions are appropriate and yours are not.
NZ stands for New Zealand, I believe.
I hope you are having good weather.
:-)
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POLITICAL CORRECTNESS (continued) -- Grandmother, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 17:07:05 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
As I was about to say, before being rudely interrupted by a wayward little finger that posted my last, incomplete, remarks .......
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
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Political Correctness -- Grandmother, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 17:02:36 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
And you, Roger - I assume - are hoping that Neveille and I are both so far into our dotage that we have no understanding of Internet Service Providers?
Ah .... but not quite so many grandmothers are gaga these days!
POLITICAL CORRECTNESSLI see you
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Neville & Grandmother -- Adolf, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 15:15:04 (CPE-60-230-203-205.wa.bigpond.net.au/60.230.203.205)
Very bold of yous making these statements 28 yrs on & out of Rhodesia.
Neville if you have balls,I will cut them out for starters,supply your address, put me to the test.
Grandmother hopefully you die a long & painful death you low life.
Kaffirs, Munts,Houts,Towies,Shovel noses,Gooks,Tree swingers they are all oxygen theifs.
Rhodesians will never die no matter what.
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Shocked -- Roger, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 14:40:37 (222-155-117-226.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/222.155.117.226)
Have just read the postings by Gran & Neville, a scant half hour apart.
I agree Gran, The Zimbabwe Situation is a fantastic site and is indeed the first site I access each day, It is a summary of the news.
The Bush Telegraph however is a free spirit site that attracts me because of the personalities within it.
We have a human interest factor that has affected all of us who participate, (I notice that you have both long departed mother Africa)
You state gran that you get no intelligent comment posted here, did you not read the debate between 2 ladies who have gone different ways, both with their own heartache, one who chooses to stay and one who has uprooted her family for fear of what the future holds, we look at the criminal land grabs in Zim, and the alarming murders of farmers in South Africa, along with crime and drugs exploding through these societies. We look at previously bountiful countries that are now basket cases. You obviously both voted with your feet, and I find your comments to be both PC and reprehensible.
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Munts -- anon, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 13:42:26 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
Neville posts: To call black people munts......is both childish and demeaning.
Golly Neville, we must have lived in different parts of Rhodesia. "Munts" was used by every single white person I knew. It was dismissive but often not said unkindly. Perhaps you were one of those white farmers I read about who used to assist the terrs.
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Nev.. -- Stan Kazac, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 12:59:10 (host86-128-14-51.range86-128.btcentralplus.com/86.128.14.51)
Certainly many, here have learnt much over the last 25 years.
1. Giving any munt a coutnry to run is a sure fire way to destroy said country
2. Giving any munt the vote is a sure fire way to place a tyrant in power.
3. Universal fanchise in Africa is a much overrated experience
Hope this helps
One Love
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Zimbabwe situation -- Grandmother, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 9:07:14 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/
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Sorry state of this site -- Grandmother, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 9:03:06 (5ad82597.bb.sky.com/90.216.37.151)
I agree wholeheartedly with what Neville has posted here below.
Every day since the build up to this latest Zimbabwean election began I have checked this site, in the hope of finding some intelligent comment and debate. Every day I have found no intelligent comment whatever. Just an outdated reworking of ancient soundbites from an age that has long since faded into history.
Our compatriots, who are not only white but predomiantly black people, and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, are living through and apalling situation in our homeland.
I echo Neville's question: "Have you learned nothing in 25 years?"
Anyone looking for news about Zimbabwe should visit the website called THE ZIMBABWEAN SITUATION, which continues to be the most informative and useful source of information about what is going on, day to day, that I have been able to find anywhere on the internet.
For those who do not know, it carries a comprehensive daily collection of world media coverage, posted in several batches through the day. Anything of importance that happens. or is said, will be there.
I heartily salute those who have continued through so many years to labour diligently at maintaining it.
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Sorry state of this site -- Neville, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 8:31:20 (202-172-119-20.cpe.nsw-3.comcen.com.au/202.172.119.20)
I have visited this site to catch up with events in Zimbabwe and am horrifed to see no one seems to object to the ugly racist insults posted here by some. To call black people munts and kaffirs is both childish and demeaning to those who use such terms, have you learnt nothing over the past 25 years?
I am a third generation white african who left with a heavy heart many years ago as I was under no illusions about what was going to happen but still have respect for the quiet dignity of many black people. I will not continue to be quiet and allow these insults which give us all a bad name to pass unanswered.
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Ray -- Ray, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 5:10:07 (adsl-75-56-193-178.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net/75.56.193.178)
Wha happened to March and April?
Yes, zero to one would be infinite, much like Zim dollars...
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Must be a blonde -- Jimbo, Sun, 13 Apr 2008, 4:24:55 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
DimPete and dawie were chatting this bird up at the races and trying to impress her with their knowledge on the sport of kings.
dawie was trying to explain the mysteries of racing to her:
He said: "If you back a horse for $5 at five to one, you will win $25. If you back it at 10 to one, you win $50. If you back it at 20 to one, you get $100."
The young lady asked politely: "And what happens if I back it at exactly one o'clock?"
She passed the test and is now lined up as DimPetes next wife.
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Bush and the Queen... -- James S, Sat, 12 Apr 2008, 20:35:03 (21Cust225.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.225)
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Air Force One arrives at Heathrow and President Bush strides to a warm and dignified reception from the Queen. They are driven in a 1934 Bentley to the edge of central London where they change to a magnificent 17th century carriage hitched to six white horses.
They continue on towards Buckingham Palace waving to the thousands of Cheering Britons; all is going well.
Suddenly, the right rear horse lets fly with the most horrendous earth-shattering fart ever heard in the British Empire. Both Passengers in the carriage must use handkerchiefs over their noses.
It shakes the coach, but the two dignitaries of state do their best to ignore the incident.
The Queen turns to President Bush, "Mr. President, please accept my regrets. I am sure you understand there are some things that even a Queen cannot control."
George Bush, always trying to be presidential, replies, "Your Majesty, do not give the matter another thought. Until you mentioned it, I thought it was one of the horses."
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Help -- maggi, Sat, 12 Apr 2008, 13:49:41 (ppp121-44-91-108.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.91.108)
Jimbo book them into Kapooka? Experience not necessary, sure they have enough there :)
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Help -- Jimbo, Sat, 12 Apr 2008, 4:44:08 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
Nellie I will need some help with these RhodieVets who are going to invade me later this year. Please come over and help keep them out, or better still, they have to come in through Perth why not get them arrested and deported.
Patrick, there is an old Rhodesian saying 'The only good kaffir is a.....' I'll let you finish it. That is what DimPete means, none of them are any good.
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Any Questions? -- Bill, Sat, 12 Apr 2008, 4:10:59 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
This week Any Questions?, chaired by Jonathan Dimbleby,will be at St Aidan’s Church of England High School,Oatlands Drive, Harrogate.
The panel will be:
Rt Hon ALAN JOHNSON MP: Secretary of State for Health
Rt Hon WILLIAM HAGUE MP: Shadow Foreign Secretary
Most Rev. JOHN SENTAMU: Archbishop of York
BARONESS (SHIRLEY) WILLIAMS: Liberal Democrat peer
Audio:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/anyquestions.shtml
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Ek se -- Nellie (cracking up), Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 16:22:40 (124-169-95-128.dyn.iinet.net.au/124.169.95.128)
B, tears et al,
Patrick,
I am a true blue skies oun, 3rd generation Rhodie, not that it should count on this once sacred forum, just look at who they let in these days, Hau.
Pete G,
be nice, with you as the Blou Balle crowd, they don’t need me ek se, ne.
Cheers.
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Cutchplates -- Jo Pete, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 15:12:14 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Actually, Patrick old chap, they are known as clutchplates on this forum.
As for me I am a fully accredited apprenticed clutchplate living in Embrayageville, aka Boksburg.
Could be a few clutchplates here, but apart from Dawie I don't know any.
There is some oke called Nellie, alias Pielie, alias Piet Nel. He sounds like a serious clutchplate to me, except that he doesn't appear to support Die Blou Balle, as true blue clutchplates normally do.
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Rhodesians return -- Patrick, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 14:34:35 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
Actually I don't farm, just seeing who would return or not. P.S. How many of u okes are just Duchmen pretending to be Rhodies?
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Hau...sit -- Nellie (chirping), Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 14:08:18 (124-169-95-128.dyn.iinet.net.au/124.169.95.128)
B, tears et al,
Patrick,
all this chirp about farming in Zimbobweed, begs the question, what will you be farming. Could it be sewerage, Hau?
Jimbo,
I heard on good authority, JoPetes doesn’t like lamb, guess the sheep will be happy.
A young man moved into a new apartment of his own and went to the lobby to put his name on his mailbox.
While there, an attractive young lady came out of the apartment next to the mailboxes, wearing a robe.
The boy smiled at the young woman and she started a conversation with him.
As they talked, her robe slipped open, and it was obvious that she had nothing else on. The poor kid broke into a sweat trying to maintain eye contact. After a few minutes, she placed her hand on his arm and said,’ Let’s go to my apartment,.... I hear someone coming.'
He followed her into her apartment; she closed the door and leaned against it, allowing her robe to fall off completely.
Now nude, she purred at him, 'What would you say is my best
feature?'
Flustered and embarrassed, he finally squeaked, 'It's got to be your ears.'
Astounded, and a little hurt she asked, 'My ears? Look at these breasts; they are full and 100% natural. I work out every day and my butt is firm and solid. Look at my skin - no blemishes anywhere.
How can you think that the best part of my body is my ears?'
Clearing his throat, he stammered.... 'Outside, when you said you heard someone coming.... that was me.'
Cheers.
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Rhodesians return -- patrick, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 12:30:31 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
JimBo, There's a fine set of conditions. May not appeal to the broad masses, but would certainly give good cause to return.
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zim air force -- dawie, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 12:16:47 (dsl-242-113-07.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.113.7)
ive just got a report that "perence shiri" commander of the zim air force has hung himself. he took over from josiah tungamirai the first zim air force commander from peter mclaren rhodesian air force. it seems he was involved in the 1980 killings perhaps he new what is in line with a change of goverment to come if it ever happens.things are quite there today in all cities the meeting in zambia one knows bob is going to get a big cheer again.
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No problem -- BushBaptist, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 11:06:35 (NoHost/61.88.80.253)
A better quote from Mr Stalin, though, is: “Death solves all problems - no man, no problem.”
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stalin's idea -- BushBaptist, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 11:02:56 (NoHost/61.88.80.253)
Robert Mugabe is obviously a reader of Joseph Stalin’s ideas.
One famous quote is :
The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
The thieving bastard should also take careful note of another of Stalin’s quotes: “History shows that there are no invincible armies.”
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Patrick -- Jo Pete, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 10:24:20 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. So I guess you won't be returning to farm in Zim Patrick.I don't think many people will give a shit about that.
At the risk of repeating myself ad nuseam. Bobojaan is not the problem. Trust me on this one.
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Farmer Patrick -- KB, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 10:22:28 (host86-139-69-21.range86-139.btcentralplus.com/86.139.69.21)
..well i would not bother dusting off my plough just yet then !!
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I will return -- Jimbo, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 10:20:08 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
Patrick, I too will return to farm on the following conditions. 1. Only munts allowed to stay in the country are the farm workers. 2. They are all desexed. 3. A white government. Anything short of this is a waste of time and money.
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Rhodesians Return -- Patrick, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 8:47:33 (NoHost/196.44.7.18)
Mug Gob's days are numbered. Sooner or later he'll be gone. I am sure that we Rhodesians will be welcomed back with open arms. I would only return to farm with the following conditions. 1. The farm is in my name 2. There are guarantees that it won't be repossessed. 3. I can get a large % of all profits generated in Forex banked outside Zim.
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all in vited owens -- dawie, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 6:30:10 (dsl-242-113-07.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.113.7)
ok 11th november good day for a party jopetes birthday and mine on the 13 november we can carry the party over for three days at jimbos 18 anzac drive geelong ALL WELCOME. think we need to give jimbo numbers so he can order food and drink. dawie
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to late -- dawie, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 6:25:20 (dsl-242-113-07.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.113.7)
to late jopete has his gps. got you on it we got hold of the flower people in aussie even locked on your house out to see if ok on google not to bad the braai area a bit shabby i may come first to neaten it up a bit so get a few abbos or what ever you call them ready give them shake skake for payment. ow can we loan a car while we there as long as its 2000cc and auto jopete likes big cars he stuffs them up less and the auto will stop him messing up the box his done two of mine so far so ive stopped him driveing my cars now in fact on easter he trashed his volvo back from margate. well all ok then jimbo
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Yassus -- Jimbo, Fri, 11 Apr 2008, 6:03:38 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
Yassus dawie, why don't you just invite everyone and get finished with it. I am supplying sweet bugger all including my address. I know a park with plenty of benches where you can kuier for as long as you like.
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jimbos for ten days only -- dawie, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 13:34:50 (dsl-242-113-07.telkomadsl.co.za/41.242.113.7)
so let us recap here we ten days at jimbo a room each for john{sand in his arse] jo pete {taking bog roll notes} dawie {powdered shake shake in case jimbo runs out of fosters}hank to share with jo pete so they can bond if jimbo wont give up his bed room i would if jimbo came here. grog imbunji all good from jimbo arak what ever the hell that is from john jo pete and i dop anything so bring much with you john. towels scooters are for jimbo to also scout for no abo type velo things must be proper scooters and rideable gee i cant wait owens
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Howzit BT -- John W., Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 12:18:16 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
This will amuse Jimbo COG....
RUGBY
SA leaders in playing dirty
South Africa's five Super 14 franchises have the somewhat unenviable record of having accrued the most cards for dirty play and ill discipline in the competition.
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Howzit BT -- John W., Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 12:14:24 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
Punda??? why worry ouens, there's millions of sheep and we all know ZZDRCLLetcJoMoerPiet is like Ben...will pork anything...Hank...if he's coming, will bring Gretl...towels? I have plenty Chinas...will bring spare for you ouens...but bog roll we don't have, we use sand here, a bit rough at first, but you get used to it...will bring arack for dop and a 4 man shisha...better get some more fertiliser on your Geelong Gold, Jimbo COG
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Visit to JIMBO(TOT) -- Jo Pete, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 11:38:18 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Dawie this is all good shit, except I don't know where you get this 10 days from. I am serving notice from my job in preparation for the many months I intend spending in Aus relying on our tjollies generosity. One thing hasn't been mentioned is punda. What happens about them? Not sure we can rely on JIMBO(TOT). His punda are rather old. I don't want to grab a grannie. Last time I did that was at the Salisbury Catholic hall, 1977.
Maybe we tjoon Scooter to tee us up.
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yip we do -- dawie, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 10:55:03 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
yip but iam sure you going to tell us to go to hell jimbo, ah but you now have said yes pull in only bring shit house paper jo pete being from lalapanze and zim does not know what to do with it he only uses 5000 zim notes dirty used ones.he still has a sack full he forgot about at my house when he went to the drc. jimbo a bacon and egg breakfast for the ten days will be fine lunch we can bum else where from the mates you going to intro us to supper well we braai more than anything hope you got a nice braai area. i hear hank wants to come but jopete and him may not get on so have to speak to jopete first hang on hank. i can work something out with jopete dawie
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You're kidding -- Jimbo, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 10:37:31 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
You're kidding dawie, you don't really want to know where to go next do you?
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john winter as well -- dawie, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 6:18:01 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
sorry john forgot you are coming as well did you send jimbo your dop list mail it on the bt so we can adjust it to suit ours a bit dont rip it i repeat
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arrgreeeement to stay -- dawie, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 6:15:32 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
yes yes jopete he is having us i told you he would give in. jimbo says yes where do we go from here jimbo
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Towels -- Jimbo, Thu, 10 Apr 2008, 4:52:10 (220-253-27-229.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.27.229)
dawie, just bring one towel for Johnno's head. Bring plenty of toilet paper though to wipe the crap from your mouths. DimPete needs a pack of 6 rolls a day.
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Mann oh mann oh mann -- KB, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 19:44:59 (host86-129-25-137.range86-129.btcentralplus.com/86.129.25.137)
I guess anybody who goes into business with M Thatcher, just does not have his eye on the ball.
re seychelles: Did you know Charlie Duke ? - long thin yank, got shot in that debacle. He was ex C Sqn, but I dont think he went to 1Recce ?
Wunder what happened to him
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Another Saying It All Without Words -- Zapiro, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 19:30:21 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
http://www.sokwanele.com/images/general/zapiro_14_3_2007_quietdiplo.gif
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Grace Mugabe -- Lore, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 18:11:14 (ACCFD131.ipt.aol.com/172.207.209.49)
Greetings fellow BTers.
Just to beat our Bob, check out this new YouTube dedicated to Grace Mugabe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_NtfsM69AU
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. -- Ray, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 16:30:18 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Picture saying it without words...
http://www.gpsa.co.za/Jokes/Zimbabwe/sa_1.gif
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. -- Ray, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 15:53:21 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
yes dawie just wear a rhodesian hat with leopard skin band and the playboygirl will go nuts, she loves african wildlife. But just tell her the leopard was accidentally run over by your bakkie, she campaigns against hunting.
Sorry Hank the Deerslayers are no more, I suggested the Bozeman Rugby team change their name to The Bozos, but not taken, they chose The Cutthroats RFC instead. But watch out I am sending the Missoula Maggots Rugby they will show em Cuthroats their asses.
We will be playing semi-finals against Haggis in Salt Lake City on Sat 19, so terribly sorry, it seems both your Cutthroats and your Maggots got eliminated.
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the seychelles jo pete -- dawie, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 15:15:21 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
it was the seychelles jopete, the froth blowers my self and a few manna hot out of the rhodie conflict went to the meeting at halfway house everyone new except for the owns from one reccie durban "delgless" or some thing like that duffed that up. hey the numbers grow johns now coming i think jimbo should send us pics of the rooms to see if they up to standard. aww a walk about of note ray why dont you join us sure jimbo wont mind post you drinks list soonest to him hey dawie
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Simon Mann -- Jo Pete, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 15:00:49 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Bob you moron, compelling viewing? My arse.The most compelling opinion I formed of Simon Mann is that, like you Bob and your cuz the other Bob, the man is an unmitigated poephol. If you are going to do something, do it right. Mann had no plan. Imagine the stupidity of landing in Harare to collect weapons, and telling most of the world what you are going to do months before you do it.
I'm reminded of those congenital idiots, my mates amongst them, who thought they could invade Mauritius.
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Howzit BT -- John W., Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 13:36:38 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
dawie...lekker plot, ek se...my medem says I can go walkabout with you ouens...why was she jumping up and down and laughing when I got the situpa??? anyway, ouens, my klein boet lives in Brissie, his bauer is called the "Buffalo"...he tells me we can pull in on the way to and from Gympie....he will even invite Jimbo...providing he brings maningi Geelong Gold....more later...have to phone him midnight to finalise plans....
TTFN
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Hi Colin cool in da north -- cool in da cape George (Lost at sea), Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 12:29:58 (ctb-cache8-vif0.saix.net/196.25.255.250)
Hey Jock I got lost at sea but found you great !
the old ter is still hanging on if he gives it to Morgan I will eat my Yacht ha,ha,ha I am now an Editor of a bar and grill news letter published every Friday inspired by Robert Burns , where they get to see themselves as others see them ha,ha, go take a look on Friday . stay cool my bro ,Cool in da cape George
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“You go tiger shooting, but you don't expect the tiger to win.” -- Bob, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 10:30:50 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
Equatorial Guinea - The Mercenary Confesses
Reporter: Jonathan Miller
Former British soldier Simon Mann sits, tightly shackled, in a harsh prison in Equatorial Guinea awaiting trial for attempting to topple the government of the oil-rich nation in west Africa. In his first television interview Mann says, “You go tiger shooting, but you don't expect the tiger to win.”
Mann's candid confession of the coup that went badly wrong makes for compelling viewing.
More
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/
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Robert Mugabe should have followed the example of Lee Kuan Yew -- Bob, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 9:59:56 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
Mugabe had more resources and people they Yew, he could still have his dictatorship, like Singapore, but also be a prosperous country, again like Singapore. If Zimbabwe had a Sovereign Wealth Fund, like other dictatorship, the west would not give a toss about 'human rights' in Zimbabwe. The problem for Zimbabwe is not that Mugabe is a dictator, but that he is a incompetent one.
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX/.7760735f?50@876.vK9ybdhwd84@
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towels -- dawie, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 9:54:06 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
jimbo must we bring towels
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play boy girls -- dawie, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 6:58:03 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
ray iam in for checkes china i hope the playboy girls jumps me first, john you so kind not like jimbo i think iam being treated badly by assosiation here with jo pete. also maggi has not offered us shelter on our walk about in aussie let jo pete handle that i think just a hint here hey. john iam posting you by bamba zonkie freight they work out of boksburg now in exile from messina sorry musina ten kilos dry shake shake add water for us keep four five days before we arrive. why dont you follow on to aussie with us if jimbo puts two up three should be ok i would think just post what you drink so he can order and pay for before we get there dont rip it off tho. dawie
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Simon Mann -- Jo Pete, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 6:22:59 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Maggi we saw that interview in SA on Carte Blanche a couple of weeks ago. My honest opinion is that Simon Mann deserves what's coming his way. What he did was for bucks, not his rather latent ideals. He struck me as being a shifty character anyway.
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Howzit BT -- John W., Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 5:03:57 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
ZZLLPDRCJoMoerPiet en dawie.....
pull in to the Warthog Inn, Chinas....
any dop you oke's can klap, is here, including the lethal, local equivalent of Ouzo....ARACK.
Plenty of sand to filter it through...
However, aikona Geelong Gold, Malawi Gold, Transkei Gold, Gonarezhou Gold, Makabusi Mbanje.....
niks, nada, fokol, ek se....
maybe we invite jimbo COG to the sandpit...
he can bring his Shit for the Shisha....
if he makes it through the Ragheads, lekker....
if he doesn't, and ends up in the raghead slammer....
lekker....
we win whichever way.
I'm off to the Shebeen to stock up on dop.....
TTFN
Oh, almost forgot...
no Shake Shake here ouens, dawie, best you bring your own.
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I was beginning to worry... -- James S, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 4:18:18 (21Cust237.tnt2.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.15.237)
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Mr WANK... oops, HANK.
Ah, that's more like like it; I begin to worry a
little when the site's own wee wanking turd begins to ease up on the insults and wholly negative comments. I have no idea what set him off barking this time - my joke wasn't all that bad, surely. C'mon Hank, get a grip of yourself or
I will consider dropping in to pay my respects to you and see the Voss Inn for myself... Must be a barrel of laughs and light-hearted banter there! Keep a good thought - remember, we all love you. Have a nice day now y'hear?
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. -- ShortPantMarufu, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 3:06:16 (proxy6.guardster.com/66.98.168.78)
Hank what did you think of their jokes though?
What ailment was it that Walter Mitty suffered from?
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the twin bobbseys -- hank, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 2:43:44 (host-69-144-85-226.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net/69.144.85.226)
Two of the worst jokes, both old and unfunny, included Bozeman, Montana, as the locale of note. Incredibly (no, in retrospect, predictably) neither was funny and neither could find the northern Rockies if they had GPS and OnStar embedded in their underwear.
The idiot from hogtoon hardly warrants a mention and his sister in Bev Hills appears to be the "real" Bob with his inane postings.
Anyone hear of the 2 Canucks and a north facing slope getting the shit kicked out of them by the Deerslayer rugby fifteen of Boz. MT?
Away t' Skye wee gurrrl.
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Zimbabwe -- Maggi, Wed, 09 Apr 2008, 1:24:34 (ppp121-44-91-108.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.91.108)
How many of you (in Australia) watched the interview on television last night with Simon Mann from Blackbeach Prison - rumor goes he was exchanged for oil by Mugabe - from what I gather though he is getting treated a bit better there than his years in Chikurubi Prison (Hre)....
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. -- Ray, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 22:44:11 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
The Media as seen in the article below, is
1: Wising up on Mugabe.
2: Especially when they admit that Mugabe can get away with it all.
Why?
Because he simply can, as long as the USA and the UK are unwilling to take him out by force.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/featuresopinon/display.var.2181910.0.The_one_man_who_could_stop_Mugabe_but_wont.php
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. -- Ray, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 21:22:41 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
A very, very interesting observation, Zuma, president elect, hates Mugabe and loves Tsangavirai, in contrast to Mbeki.
Hmmmmm.....
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. -- Ray, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 21:17:48 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
Ho Jo stop by here on Sunday afternoon at Beervalley Hills on the way to Jimbos my big 26 th Birthday bash will be underway and am stocking up on tequila by the gallon. The Rugbyclub is coming, my lady friend Playboychannel hostess has been invited, and you can have all the dop you want. Health is great except for the dyslexia. We are going to play checkers or draughts, except instead of checkers we will use tot glasses full of tequila. If you get jumped you have to swallow.
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Free Dop -- Jo Pete, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 15:38:55 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo Dawie. We on a roll here chum. What we will do is pub crawl to JIMBO(TOT). We park off at Jo Gat John until we've klapped all his dop, then we go to Nellie, same thing, then we go to Brisbane to Clutchplate & Scooter, klap their dop & then to Sydney to wait for JIMBO(TOT) to collect us in his Morrie. It will take a while for him to get there, but no worries cos I have mates there. One thing bothers me a bit is the ability of JIMBO(TOT) & his Morrie to get to Sydney. Could be they are both a bit past it. If we are cunning we could stay pissed for a few months for free. Then we get goofed on JIMBO(TOT)'s Geelong Gold.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 15:07:14 (NoHost/66.251.102.206)
A man walks into a bar in Bozeman, Montana and orders a beer. Before he can take his first sip, a monkey swings down and steals the pint of beer from him. The monkey takes the beer and puts it on the piano.The piano player drinks the beer.
The man walks over to the piano player and says "Do you know your monkey stole my beer." The pianist replies "No, but if you hum it, I'll play it."
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dubai on the way to aussie -- dawie, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 10:02:39 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
hell jo pete what we do here is fly to john winter in dubai no dop but we can be very sobber by the time we get to jimbos place that way we can drink more, gee jimbo thats a good idea thanks. as for jopete being a moffie and my self lock up your scoooters.
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You too -- Jimbo, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 8:06:14 (220.253-200-170.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.200.170)
dawie you can piss off too, I repeat, no money, no grog. Take your bum bandit mate with you. Try Dubai, I know a guy there who will give you anything you want. Do you want his name and address?
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Morgan Tsvangirai -- Bob, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 5:22:48 (NoHost/218.185.83.36)
IMF must withhold $2.1b aid until Mugabe quits
Morgan Tsvangirai
April 8, 2008
Page 1 of 2
Other related coverage
Zimbabwe on razor's edge: Tsvangirai
Tsvangirai pleads for outside help
Mugabe foes accuse him of dirty deeds
Analysis: How people power shook a president for life
'No deal for Mugabe to go'
Once again Robert Mugabe and his cronies are making their tilt at another windmill, attempting to maintain their untenable grip on power in Zimbabwe.
While disheartening, this act of political thuggery does not diminish the victory of democracy over dictatorship in a country ravaged by misrule and ignorance. Ultimately, this is a victory for the strong hearts and sturdy backs that have carried us here. This is a victory for all Zimbabweans.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/imf-must-withhold-21b-aid-until-mugabe-quits/2008/04/07/1207420295490.html
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Post-Election Zimbabwe -- Bob, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 4:34:02 (NoHost/218.185.83.36)
As this interview goes to air, the people of Zimbabwe, and indeed the international community, anxiously await the Zimbabwe High Court ruling on whether to force the country's Electoral Commission to announce the results of the presidential and parliamentary elections. Since polling day on 29 March only a trickle of parliamentary results have come through, and no result to the all important question of who will become Zimbabwe's next president.
Guests
Geoffrey Nyarota
Award-winning invetigative journalist; founder and former editor in chief of The Daily News in Zimbabwe; founder and editor of the online newspaper, The Zimbabwe Times, based in Massachusetts.
Further Information
The Zimbabwe Times
Publications
Title: Against the Grain: Memoirs of a Zimbabwean Newsmanis
Author: Geoffrey Nyarota
Publisher: Zebra Press.
Listen Now|Download Audio
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2008/2210276.htm
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Mondli Makhanya speaks with Tony Jones -- Bob, Tue, 08 Apr 2008, 4:12:13 (NoHost/218.185.83.36)
TONY JONES: Mondli Makhanya, the thing that is shocking about what you're saying to us here in Australia is that that essentially means that South Africa, just like Robert Mugabe, the South African leadership are not prepared to accept the results of the election if they put Morgan Tsvangirai into power.
MONDLI MAKHANYA: Well, I think what the South African Government fears, and the ruling party here, I think what they fear, they fear a ZANU-PF outside of power. Because ZANU-PF, because the military in Zimbabwe is very loyal to ZANU-PF because the militias, the war veterans are all very loyal to ZANU-PF, they fear ZANU-PF out of power will be an extremely dangerous destabilising force that will affect the rest of the region. So they would rather ZANU-PF actually hold onto some segment of power, to some semblance of power and be inside the tent rather than be outside the tent. And I think they are prepared to even compromise on basically the outcomes of a democratic process to achieve that end. And there is a genuine fear when you speak to people in the government in South Africa there is a fear that if ZANU-PF is out of power they will become a very strong destabilising military force and an uncontrollable one at that.
TONY JONES: Is there another side to this, as well? Is President Mbeki also afraid that if a non-liberation movement government takes root in neighbouring country like Zimbabwe that there could be a sort of domino effect in southern Africa and he could lose his position and other liberation presidents could lose their position?
Video
Mondli Makhanya speaks with Tony Jones
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http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2007/s2210642.htm
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Bozeman bear,,, -- James S, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 14:56:04 (21Cust97.tnt3.toronto.on.da.uu.net/216.95.17.97)
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A bear walks into a bar in Bozeman, Montana. He bangs on the bar with his paw and demands a beer.
The bartender approaches and says, "We don't serve beer to bears in bars in Bozeman."
The bear, becoming angry, demands again that he be served a beer.
The bartender tells him again, more forcefully, "We don't serve beer to belligerent bears in bars in Bozeman."
The bear, very angry now, says, "If you don't serve me a beer, I'm going to eat that lady sitting at the end of the bar."
The bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve beer to belligerent, bully bears in bars in Bozeman."
The bear goes to the end of the bar and, as promised, eats the woman. He comes back to his seat and again demands a beer.
The bartender states, "Sorry, we don't serve beer to belligerent, bully bears in bars in Bozeman who are on drugs."
The bear says, "I'm NOT on drugs."
The bartender says, "You are now. That was a barbitchyouate."
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moffie jimbo -- dawie, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 13:52:04 (ngy-cache1-vif1.saix.net/198.54.202.130)
jopete you slut dumping me like a used mahorrie and on jimbo he smells lekker tho of weeds and the other shit he grows.should we be fussy of the ales he buys us or just drink what we hands out.whats a traverler cheque never seen one here in africa. fishing at the house boat good saturday had a few over no scooters of note. should we take jimbo a scooter or two hey jopete
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JIMO(TOT) -- Jo Pete, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 11:23:43 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. OK JIMBO(TOT) so it's Dawie. I trust you are not being coy & playing hard to get.I will warn Dawie.
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No money -- Jimbo, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 10:10:14 (220.253-205-246.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.205.246)
Hey DimPete I have no money and no grog so piss off. Let me know when you arrive in Aus and I will go to another country for the duration. Tasmania sounds good that is overseas.
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Travellwers cheques -- Jo Pete, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 7:27:03 (41-208-48-64.mtn.co.za/41.208.48.64)
Yo BT. Maggi no worries about traveller's cheques. After we've bought dop me & Dawie will have nothing left for traveller's cheques. We reckon that we can impose on the very generous nature of our BT Australian gabbas to provide.
JIMBO(TOT) has already extremely magnanomous in his offers to assist. Being a moffie one hopes that he has his eye on Dawie, not me.
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Helping Pensioners -- Morag, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 6:57:36 (adsl-71-137-4-172.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net/71.137.4.172)
Sending a wire transfer from the United States is very expensive (my bank charges about $40.00 U.S. for a transaction) . . . Can those in Zim use a PayPal account (I don't know if there are transfer charges for using PayPay)? It certainly would help in donating money and would make it so easy to send smaller amounts more frequently.
Please let us know. Thanks
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Help for Zimbabwe Pensioners -- Bob, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 6:09:50 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
You probably know that some pensioners in Zimbabwe are facing starvation. Many of the over 12 000 Zimbabwe pensioners living in South Africa are now also destitute. Thousands of Zimbabwe Pensioners have not received their pension for almost three years. The Zimbabwe Government stopped paying non-resident pensioners from April 2003. Several of these are war widows and disabled war veterans.
Those with close family are the lucky ones. Some have NOBODY to support them. Many would rather starve than ask for charity! Did you know that several Zimbabwe Pensioners in South Africa are now donating their blocked funds to needy pensioners in Zimbabwe ?
WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO REWARD THESE DESPERATE FOLK IN RETURN ? PLEASE HELP !
ANYTHING YOU CAN AFFORD TO GIVE, BIG OR SMALL, WHICH ENABLES US TO HELP OUR PENSIONERS IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
The FLAME LILY FOUNDATION (FLF) is working together with the ROTARY CLUB OF HARARE CENTRAL in Zimbabwe on a project to ensure that donations from Zimbabwe Pensioners in South Africa are put to best use.
The FLF will grant Zimbabwe Pensioners an equivalent amount in South African rand, at the parallel exchange rate, to that which they donate to Rotary Club, Harare Central, through us. We can only do this for as long as we are able to replenish our Fund for the Aged.
Cheques in South African Rand, crossed "not transferable", should be made out to:
FLAME LILY FOUNDATION and posted to:
Mr John Redfern
Honorary National Secretary
Flame Lily Foundation
PO Box 95474
WATERKLOOF
0145
South Africa
Direct deposits can be made to:
FLAME LILY FOUNDATION
Account No.: 1500680799
Bank: ABSA Bank
Swift address: ABSAZAJJ
FOREIGN transfers to the above account are welcome, but are subject to bank charges.
Donors outside South Africa may contact John Redfern at rasa@iafrica.com regarding an alternative method of payment.
We will acknowledge every donation for which we have a name and address. Please Email details of your transfer to rasa@iafrica.com
The Flame Lily Foundation (FLF) has been assisting former residents of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe since its formation 20 years ago, when it was known as RASA. The FLF already provides financial support and homes for several old age pensioners.
The FLF is established to promote, further and secure the interests of former residents of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, and to give help in particular to the aged and the disabled.
http://www.ireland.co.za/go_zimbabwe.htm
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Flies -- Jimbo, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 6:03:25 (220.253-205-246.VIC.netspace.net.au/220.253.205.246)
JW, you only know about sand flies mate. White flies are a problem not green flies. Hang up a yellow sticky paper trap and wallah no more white flies. I wish I could find a similar trap for you and DimPete, but I will keep on trying. Go the Waratahs.
I will second 'anon', it's now up to the zimbabweans themselves. But with the Shona, don't hold your breath, with the Matabele however it would be a different proposition. I wonder if anyone has been stockpiling weapons. 1 or 2 Battalion RAR could clean up the lot of them without help.
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Travel Advice -- Bob, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 5:45:22 (210-185-70-9.intrapower.net.au/210.185.70.9)
Summary
We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to Zimbabwe at this time due to the high level of criminal activity, the absence of the rule of law, and deteriorating economic conditions which could lead to civil unrest at any time. This includes visits to national parks and Victoria Falls.
If you do decide to travel to Zimbabwe, you should exercise extreme caution.
With the results of the national elections held on 29 March 2008 still uncertain, there continues to be a high level of political tension in Zimbabwe. Post-election violence is possible.
You should avoid demonstrations, street rallies and any political gatherings as they may turn violent.
The security situation could deteriorate quickly and without warning, and Australians could be caught up in violence directed at others. In these circumstances, departure options may be severely limited. You should ensure you have adequate supplies of water, food, fuel, cash and medications. We encourage you to have your own contingency plan for independent departure if the situation warrants. You should ensure that your documentation remains up to date. Valid passports, visas and vehicle police clearances are essential should there be a need to depart Zimbabwe. The Australian Government's ability to provide consular services may be limited.
The ongoing political and economic crisis has made the situation very volatile, particularly in urban areas. We strongly advise you not to travel to high density urban areas.
Police and security forces are likely to act indiscriminately against any perceived opponents of the Government, or even against the general public in the vicinity of political gatherings.
Zimbabwe is experiencing hyperinflation, food shortages, mass unemployment, shortages of local currency, foreign exchange and fuel, and increasingly unreliable basic services such as power, water and transport. Health services are poor. Many basic commodities, including medical supplies, are now in short supply, leading to panic-buying in shops and supermarkets.
The level of HIV/AIDS infection in Zimbabwe is very high.
Because of the uncertain security situation in Zimbabwe, we strongly recommend that you register your travel and contact details, so we can contact you in an emergency.
Be a smart traveller. Before heading overseas:
organise comprehensive travel insurance and check what circumstances and activities are not covered by your policy
subscribe to this travel advice to receive free email updates each time it's reissued.
http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/advice/Zimbabwe
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T/Cheques -- Maggi, Mon, 07 Apr 2008, 0:30:20 (218-214-1-209.people.net.au/218.214.1.209)
Adolf - this only came effective last week - we were lucky in that she could produce a passport, bank card and another recognised card to make up 100 points... I offered my banking info but not acceptable. If you are cashing in under $500 there is no problem but the minute you are over that then you need all the above - as our bank said not worth the hassle, and she is with a recognised bank in the UK anyway, so much easier to put the funds in there and use an ATM here. Both my banks confirmed this.
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Getting rid of Bob -- anon, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 18:27:51 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
Chum posts: I think that you need to recognise that in virtually every example you provided, those revolutions required support from outside.
Chum, with the exception of Franco in 1936, none of the countries I mentioned had any support from outside.
In the case of Cuba, which is the closest in analogy to Zimbabwe, Castro landed in 1956 with 82 men who had trained themselves in Mexico. 70 of them were killed immediately. Castro and the remaining 11, over the next two years, with never more than 300 supporters, conducted a guerilla war and overthrew Batista's army of 40,000.
It's pointless to wring one's hands in anguish and say SOMEBODY must do something. Chum says "It is time that the international community acknowledge their ultimate responsibility to protect the Zimbabwean people". There is no such ultimate responsibility, Chum. Ultimately, it's the Zimbabweans' responibility to save their own lives.
The Zim population is against the govt. The army has low morale with no food, fuel, spare parts, etc. Ought to be ripe for revolution. I'm sure that any number of western countries would take care of the logistics to get the ball rolling. But Zimbabweans themselves are going to have to be prepared to sacrifice their lives. Anyway, let's hope it doesn't come to that and that Bob steps down.
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Chummy -- KB (discombobuliated), Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 14:31:52 (host86-129-25-137.range86-129.btcentralplus.com/86.129.25.137)
“Chum is voicing an opinion, which is heartfelt and understandable and not without reason.
However, KB has a go at him. Why?”
The sentiment may be heart-felt, but is entirely without reason.
Decades ago we would all have been bleating about the international community getting involved (if they had).
Chum is demanding that the international community go in and kill people on his behalf (bearing in mind he no long lives in the cess pit), because he is not happy with the out come of an election.
I like him am voice my opinion…
The very lest he could do is keep his eye on the ball and respond to posters correctly
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Travellers Cheques -- Adolf, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 13:53:35 (CPE-58-170-132-142.wa.bigpond.net.au/58.170.132.142)
Maggi,
Been in Aus 18 years and never had a problem cashing travellers cheques,it must be your mother in law.
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.. -- Maggi, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 8:07:08 (ppp121-44-91-133.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net/121.44.91.133)
Dawie / JP - when are you arriving in Oz? What can I tell you about Oz - do not bring travellers cheques, not worth haggling for an hour plus to try cash them in. Major fraud ww re these. Ask my mum-in-law, it was lousy for her to try cash over a thousand $.... so bring cash or credit card.
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Howzit BT -- John W. (Suprise! Jimbo's awoken.), Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 8:03:01 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
Jimbo COG.....
at least I contemplate about something.
The only contemplation that you perform, is over the Greenfly on your 'Boom'.
TTFN
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JW (the camel jockey) -- Jimbo, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 7:02:36 (NoHost/220.253.2.202)
JW, have you been sitting around contemplating your navel again?
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Howzit BT -- John W., Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 6:30:11 (NoHost/80.227.168.194)
I can't understand, sometimes, the attitude and "in-fighting" of some people on this forum.
I'm not talking about the trivia, but about the acrimony towards people who are voicing their feelings about serious issues, of which we all have in common.
For example, take the recent bitching about SA and between those who live there and those that don't.
We all have individual experiences and opinions and reasons for why some live elsewhere and some who remain.
It is good to air our opinions and feelings, which is natural in any close-knit community, but I don't see why there should be insults and acrimony.
Now take the latest issue, the Zim. election.
Chum is voicing an opinion, which is heartfelt and understandable and not without reason.
However, KB has a go at him. Why?
Get real guys and don't chuck out inane statements that he should go back and fight it out!
Anon’s posting is true to some extent, but the truth is that the general Povo are incapable and also do not have the means of doing anything other than getting their heads broken.
Which they will do.
But nothing will come of it, unless the Army & Police change sides, which is not beyond the bounds of reason, but is highly unlikely.
What about International intervention?
Also highly unlikely.
Just rhetoric and hand wringing.
The UN will, as usual prove to be useless and ineffectual and in any case, China and Russia will veto any proposal.
What about an African consensus and pressure on Bob?
This will also not happen.
All the African States have a ruling elite, who have their own 'Backslapping Club' and Mutual Admiration Society, mostly of whom are also like Mugs and holding onto power at all costs.
Certainly, none of them have the interests of the Country or the People at heart.
In Zim's case, now, what will happen?
Mugs and Zanu PF will cling to power and it will not be nice.
Mugs will be allowed to bow out as a 'Hero', of Zim and it's people, in a few years time and Zanu will continue, with a change in leadership, with an increasing leaning towards and dependence on, China and Asia.
TTFN
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Because... -- hank, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 2:41:10 (host-69-144-85-226.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net/69.144.85.226)
Ant, need you state the obvious? Have you heard the one about the Paki, the Coolie and the oke from Que Que arriving at Heathrow? Cheers honkie.
James, I know you envy me! I have been receiving such positive carma from you! Oh how it warms me in these lingering days of winter. Thank you, James. Thank you.
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Brit Passport -- Ant Brooks, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 2:16:32 (user-24-214-227-171.knology.net/24.214.227.171)
Could someone explain why Indians and Pakis born in Africw qualify for British citizenship, but whites born in Africa do not?
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Election fiasco -- Chum McCormack, Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 0:07:09 (NoHost/90.208.195.86)
Tyranical Bob - I think that you need to recognise that in virtually every example you provided, those revolutions required support from outside. We also need to recognise that modern technology makes it difficult for a population to take over, without military support from within.
I think we should also recognise that most Zimbabwean people are mild mannnered.
None of the conditions are evident in Zimbabwe at the moment. The International community generally only intervenes when it is too late or if oil is involved. Within the country, although some military leaders are distancing themselves from ZANU/PF, there are others who still see some advantage (to themselves) in supporting Mugabe, for the moment.
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Election fiasco -- Chum McCormack, Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 23:53:00 (NoHost/90.208.195.86)
Bob Em - Cannot see your logic that simply because I agitate for international intervention that I should fly back there myself. But then I read your other pieces !
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Chummy C -- KB, Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 21:11:57 (host86-129-25-137.range86-129.btcentralplus.com/86.129.25.137)
Chum,
instead of winge-ing and whining from a far, and asking other to fight your fight why dont you hop on a plane and get stuck in yourself ?
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Tyranical Bob -- anon, Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 11:03:34 (user-544753e7.wfd87a.dsl.pol.co.uk/84.71.83.231)
Chum McCormack: "It is time that the international community acknowledge their ultimate responsibility to protect the Zimbabwean people from further harm in the light of their expressed wishes at the ballot box."
Chum, I can't think of any revolutions where the revolutionaries expected others to do their dirty work for them. The Zimbabwe people will have to do what Americans, French, Chinese, Russians, Spanish, Cubans, even Zanu PF themselves - have all had to do in the past - pick up a gun and get rid of their rulers. You can't expect others to do your fighting when you yourself aren't prepared to do any - half of Zim is camped out in RSA or UK eating Nandos. That's hardly laying down your life for your country. I have every faith that things will come good in Zim, but there has to be catharsis - a hard victory with the dictator and his crew utterly destroyed, not lingering around in the background plotting. When I see Bobby & Grace like so:
www.wmob.com/images/art/deadbenito.jpg I'll know EGBOK
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Election fiasco -- Chum McCormack, Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 10:16:15 (NoHost/90.208.195.86)
The Zimbabwean people have spoken and a majority of them have chosen to change their government and the person who will be President of Zimbabwe. This is their democratic right. All this has been achieved in a climate in which Mugabe and ZANU/