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The Queen's Speech -- Nigel, Fri, 26 Dec 2014, 9:44:09 (NoHost/120.18.180.136)

If you didn't see the Queen's Christmas Message, you can watch it below.


View Her Majesty's Christmas Broadcast on YouTube:

The Christmas Broadcast 2014: <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://youtu.be/Y2whLW5F5mY">http://youtu.be/Y2whLW5F5mY</a>


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 HIV and AIDS estimates (2013) -- pwbottom, Thu, 25 Dec 2014, 8:29:26 (NoHost/120.18.70.148)


HIV and AIDS estimates (2013)

Number of people living with HIV6,300,000 [6,000,000 - 6,500,000]

Adults aged 15 to 49 prevalence rate19.1% [18.1% - 19.9%]

Adults aged 15 and up living with HIV5,900,000 [5,700,000 - 6,200,000]

Women aged 15 and up living with HIV3,500,000 [3,300,000 - 3,700,000]

Children aged 0 to 14 living with HIV360,000 [320,000 - 390,000]

Deaths due to AIDS200,000 [170,000 - 220,000]

Orphans due to AIDS aged 0 to 172,400,000 [810,000 - 2,600,000]

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.unaids.org/en/regionscountries/countries/southafrica">http://www.unaids.org/en/regionscountries/countries/southafrica</a>


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HIV positive grandchildren -- pwbottom, Thu, 25 Dec 2014, 8:14:32 (NoHost/120.18.70.148)

I just watched this rebroadcast on TV.

The women of the small town of Wakefield in Canada have started a social revolution which has spread across Canada and changed the lives of thousands of African grandmothers.

Video/Transcript
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2014/s3988002.htm">http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2014/s3988002.htm</a>


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Immigrate to Israel Before Its Too Late -- Avigdor Lieberman, Mon, 22 Dec 2014, 2:40:01 (NoHost/120.18.240.88)

"The last time I looked at the map of Palestine, I could not go to sleep. It is just dots, smaller than those of the homelands, and that broke my heart, she said, referring to the bantustans that existed in South Africa during the apartheid era."

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/11/03/lieberman-warns-south-african-jews-to-immigrate-to-israel-before-its-too-late/">http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/11/03/lieberman-warns-south-african-jews-to-immigrate-to-israel-before-its-too-late/</a>


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UK Premium Bonds -- James, Sat, 20 Dec 2014, 22:14:49 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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CHUCK. Second attempt to send this. First time after I finished, I pressed "Send a new message" and all I had written disappeared... The 'lottery' I like is run by the Brit Premium Bonds. You have your gamble and then, if you like, you can get your stake back after 90 days. Loads of generous wee prizes per month 25 and 100 quid prizes etc. and each month there are TWO prizes of over a million! Prizes are tax free. Prizes are in lieu of interest. They will send prizes anywhere, but you do need to be able to write a cheque in Sterling against a bank in UK. Bonds are sold in units of 100 quid.
James
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Season Tickets are a great gift idea -- Chuck, Thu, 18 Dec 2014, 5:29:09 (NoHost/120.18.114.67)

Megabucks Doubler is a $1 wager and is drawn two times a week. Tickets can be purchased in 3-month , 6-month , and 1-year increments.

1 Year Season Ticket = $100
(104 drawings)

You can purchase Season Tickets
By Phone: 1-800-222-8587 (TKTS

You don't have to reside in Massachusetts to play Megabucks Doubler. You can also buy Season Tickets as gifts for family and friends out of state.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://masslottery.com/games/lottery/season-tickets.html">http://masslottery.com/games/lottery/season-tickets.html</a>


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Washington Redskins -- Chuck, Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 13:11:04 (NoHost/120.23.108.138)

Washington Redskins - Crossing Continents

Fans of the Washington Redskins, one of the most popular American football teams in the country, are fiercely proud of their dark crimson Indian head logo. They say it is a sign of respect and that the name 'Redskins' goes back 80 years. But to many Native Americans, the indigenous people who lived in the United States before the arrival of European settlers, the word Redskins is hateful. For them it's a painful reminder of how their people have been oppressed and neglected even to this very day.

Mike Wendling travels from North Dakota, to Minneapolis to Washington DC to explore the controversy which, thanks to social media and a growing number of Native American campaigners, has now become a burning national issue.

On the Turtle Mountain reservation, Mike meets Jordan Brien, a young hip-hop artist with a troubled past who is determined to get the name of the team changed. He says his people shouldn't be reduced to mascots, and he urges young Native Americans to take a stand against racism. His cause has got the support of some in the US Congress and even President Obama has said that if the name is offensive to a sizeable group of people, the owners should "think about changing it". But for diehard fans like Chap Petersen, who has been going to Redskins games for four decades, such a change is unthinkable. And the club's owner Daniel Snyder has vowed never to discard the name whatever the press, pollsters and politicians say.


Listen to the Audio

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04tljk6">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04tljk6</a>


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List -- Maggi, Wed, 10 Dec 2014, 6:05:57 (ppp121-44-16-149.lns20.syd4.internode.on.net/121.44.16.149)

Thanks for that list James - it is very sobering. I do recognise a few names even though I was a youngster at that time.


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Megabuck Doubler -- Chuck, Mon, 08 Dec 2014, 10:33:28 (NoHost/120.23.172.242)

You don't have to reside in Massachusetts to play the state lottery, you can play
Megabuck Doubler from anywhere in the US.

It's a bit of fun!

Purchase Season Tickets By Phone:

1-800-222-8587 (TKTS)

Megabuck Doubler is a $1 wager and is drawn two times a week. Tickets can be purchased in 3-month , 6-month , and 1-year increments.
3 Month Season Ticket = $25
(26 drawings)
Discounted price $23-SAVE $3

6 Month Season Ticket = $50
(52 drawings)
Discounted price $45- SAVE $7

1 Year Season Ticket = $100
(104 drawings)
Discounted price $90-SAVE $14

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://masslottery.com/games/lottery/season-tickets.html">http://masslottery.com/games/lottery/season-tickets.html</a>

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lest we forget -- johnny b (thanks), Tue, 02 Dec 2014, 12:41:22 (CPE-139-168-216-104.lns1.way.bigpond.net.au/139.168.216.104)

Thanks for the forgotten farmers list James. I remember the Viljoen's incedent done under the code name operation Pagoda.

Greetings to all on BT and sorry if I haven't been in touch, building a new life in Ozz after leaving Christchurch after the earthquake hasn't left much time to keep in contact. We now have our own bit of land which nobody will pull from under our feet ! I work at a winery to make wine for the wife and St. Agnes brandy for my coke, and a river where I don't need a fishing licence. So life isn't at all bad. Have a fantastic Christmas wherever you may be BT'rs.


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Mugabe's expenses... -- James, Sat, 29 Nov 2014, 3:17:29 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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The Vatican recently invited Mugabe as an honoured guest to the Pope's beatification ceremony. The EU are in the process of re-establishing friendly ties with the Mugabe regime with Mugabe behaving in this cruel, callous, greedy and insensitive manner.

Highlights of Zimbabwe budget, courtesy David Blair:

Mugabe's spending on hospitality in 2014: $937,000. And on capital assets for all secondary schools: $180,000

Mugabe's spending on "medical equipment" for all hospitals in Zim in 2014: $18m. And on "state residences" (ie his palaces): $16.7m

Amount spent on maintaining Mugabe's official cars in 2014: $824,000. And on "capital assets" for all primary schools in Zim: $330,000

Mugabe's spending on salary for himself & vice-president: $215,000. And on adult literacy across zimbjvel in 2014: $21.6m. And on TB drugs for entire country: $500,000.

Mugabe's spending on hospitality in 2014: $937,000. And on HIV-Aids awareness: $205,000

Mugabe blew $38.3m on travel & palaces in 2014 - which is 75 times more than $501,000 of capital spending on every school in Zimbabwe.
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Murdered farmers -- Jo Pete, Fri, 28 Nov 2014, 12:54:51 (ti-227-205-231.telkomadsl.co.za/105.227.205.231)

Yo BT. I think there is one omission that I know of in that sobering list of murdered farmers.
Max Rosenfels about 1987 in the Kezi/Marula district. killed by a land mine placed by dissidents.


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In Memoriam - Rhodesian farmers... -- James, Wed, 26 Nov 2014, 23:23:33 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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In Memoriam - Commercial Farmers



Commercial farmers, wives, sons and daughters killed on their farms are listed. Farmers that died while away on service are marked KIA or KOAS.
The first victim was Mr Piet Oberholtzer of Melsetter in 1964, then the Viljoens of Gadzema in 1966. From 1973 between five and seven farmers were killed each year, until the rate escalated from 1976 (alphabetic):

Mr R. Abbot, Odzi, 10/4/78.
Major Ernest C. Addams, Odzi, 14/8/74. KIA near Madziwa.
Mr L. Ashby, Mzingwane, 7/7/76.
Mr J. Ashworth, Umtali, 18/1/78.

Mrs K. Backe-Hansen, Matetsi, 9/9/76.
Mr D. C. Bagnall, Headlands, 14/3/78.
Mr D. A. Baker, Macheke, 18/8/79
Mr A. Barclay, Gwanda/West Nicholson, 12/8/77.
Mr D. Barclay, Ayrshire, 7/12/77.
Mr Solomon Hertzhog Barnard, Cashel, 6/12/77.
Mr R. A. Barton, Melsetter, 6/4/77.
Mr D. Bashford, Karoi, 24/12/76.
Mr B. S. Bassett, Rusape, 19/8/79
Mr A. Bathhurst, Karoi, 24/12/76.
Mr C. P. Beale, Nyamandhlovu, 27/6/79 .
Mr A. Beamish, Horseshoe, 2/11 /78.
Mr R. Beamish, Sipolilo, 1979.
Mr J. A. Bennett, Shamva, 23/12/78.
Mrs M. Bennett, Shamva, 23/12/78.
Minor Bennett, Shamva, 23/12/78.
Minor Bennett, Shamva, 23/12/78.
Mr Basil Beverley (71), Chiredzi, 26/12/1979.
Mr P. Bezuidenhout, Nuanetsi, 14/2/78.
Mr W. Bezuidenhout, Gazaland, 20/12/78.
Mr K. H. Bicknell, Selous, 10/4/78.
Mr I. D. Black, Odzi, 17/5/78.
Mr Dennis Doughty Bleasdale, Chipinga, 1979.
Mrs Bleasdale, Chipinga, 1979.
Mr H. Blignaut, Doma, 20/4/78.
Mr J. Blignaut, Ayrshire, 17/6/77.
Mr O. Bordini, Shamva, 31/7/78.
Mrs E. Botha, Gazaland, 6/6/78.
Mrs S. Bother, Somabula, 18/7/79
Mr P. Bouwer, Tengwe, 13/7/78.
Mr B. Brakenridge, Gadzema, 6/1/78.
Mr B. Brakenridge (Son), Gadzema, 6/1/78.
Mrs S. Brakenridge (Senior), Gadzema, 6/1/78
Mr C. Brent, Marula, 20/10/78.
Mr P. J. D. Breytenbach, Headlands, 25/6/79
Mr M. Brooke-Mee, Gwelo, 30/3/79.
Mr L. L. Brooks, Darwin, 19/3/79.
Mr I. R. Brown, Sipolilo, 28/3/79.
Mr Walter Barclay "Scotty" Brown, Hartley, 12/11/1979.
Mrs Hazel Sheila Brown, Hartley, 12/11/1979.
Mr A. P. Burger, Matetsi, 12/6/77.
Mr D. Burton, Lonely District, 25/5/78.

Mr N. Campbell, Marandellas, 23/5/76.
Mr C. A. Capell, Shamva, 9/3/77. KOAS.
Mr D. Carshalton, Gazaland, 27/8/76.
Mr M. J. Chance, Bindura, 15/5/79.
Mr C. Chapman, Melsetter, 22/5/77.
Miss C. Chessworth, Figtree, 14/8/77.
Mr E. Claasen, Odzi, 29/9/77.
Mr M. D. Cleave, Juliasdale, 1/5/79.
Mr C. M. Cloete, Filabusi, 31/10/76.
Mrs M. Cloete, Filabusi, 31/10/76.
Mr P. J. Cloete, Centenary, 8/8/78.
Mr V. Conlon, Mazoe, 11/1/79.
Mr D. Cookson, Centenary, February 1977.
Mr Jopie Fourie Coomans, Cashel, 6/12/77.
Mr D. L. Courtney, Mrewa, 6/4/78.
Mr Bernard Couve, Shamva, 6/6/73.
Mr G. Crane, Goromonzi, 19/3/79.
Mr K. Cremer, Gazaland, 18/8/78.
Mr W. P. Cremer, Bindura, 26/1/77.
Mr D. I. Crombie, Macheke, 8/8/78.
Mr P. Crouch, Ayrshire, 17/12/76.
Mr A. Cumming, Matetsi, 5/11/76.
Mrs S. A. Cumming, Norton, 7/1/78.
Miss S. C. Cumming, Norton, 7/1/78.

Mr C. J. J. Davies, Umtali, 20/8/78.
Mr S. L. J. Davies, Gwaai Valley, 26/7/76.
Mr D. de Coupelay, Macheke/Virginia, 4/6/78.
Mr A. de Nadai, Mayo, 21/8/78.
Mr B. J. Dean, Melsetter, 30/9/77.
Mr C. A. Delaney, Melsetter, 3D/9/77.
Mr D. Dodd, Ayrshire, 6/4/77.
Mr J. S. Donald, Umtali, 26/4/76.
Mr S. Donnelly, Karoi, 21/6/78.
Miss J. Douglass, Melsetter, 22/8/78.
Mr H. du Plessis, Gazaland, 28/1/79.
Mrs F. M. du Toit, Gutu, 23/7/78.
Mr D. W. ("Billy") S. Dunn, Shamva, 13/9/77.

Mr B. L. T. Eastwick, Centenary, 17/8/79
Mr S. Edridge, Wedza, 11 /9/79.
Mr S. Eggersglusz, Sinoia, 9/10/1979.
Mrs V. Eggersglusz, Sinoia, 9/10/1979
Mr I. J. Eksteen, Inyazura, 11/1/79.
Mrs J. M. Eksteen, Inyazura, 11/1/79.
Mr T. H. Elton, Cashel, 19/5/78.

Mr P. H. Fairbanks, Gazaland, 2/9/78.
Mr F. Falzoi, Karoi, 12/6/78.
Mr G. Farge, Gazaland 24/10/76.
Mr H. Fenzel, Melsetter, 16/4/78.
Mr E. Fletcher, Centenary, 17/2/74.
Mrs B. Fletcher, Centenary, 17/2/74.
Mr T. V. Forbes, Mount Darwin, 23/4/73.
Mr F. Forward, Sinoia, 16/9/79.
Mr F. N. J. Fourie, Tengwe, 14/8/78.
Mr H. Franken, Selukwe, 17/7/78.
Mr B. T. Furber, Gwanda, 16/4/79.

Mr D. A. Galloway, Melsetter, 24/10/78.
Mr K. Gifford, Gazaland, 6/7/78.
Miss N. Glenny (Baby), Melsetter, 29/9/77.
Mr D. R C. Greef, Plumtree, 15/5/77.
Mrs M. A. Greef, Plumtree, 15/5/77.
Mr T. Greyvenstein, Mayo, 16/9/76.
Mr F A. Grobler, Matopos South, 17/6/78.
Mrs A. E. Grobler, Matopos South, 17/6/78.
Mr P. J. Gunn, Middle Sabi, 5/10/78.

Miss M. Habig, Gazaland, 6/6/76.
Miss L. Habig, Gazaland, 6/6/76.
Miss Y. Habig, Gazaland, 6/6/76.
Mrs R. Hacking, Odzi, 8/1/79.
Mr E. J. Hards, Shamva, 10/4/78.
Mr T. Hartley, Headlands, 8/7/79
Mr J. Henry, Gazaland, 31/12/77.
Mr P. L. Hanson, Melsetter, 20/10/77.
Mr H. T. J. Hastings, Shamva, 11/3/77.
Mrs M. H. Hastings, Shamva, 11/3/77.

Mr Andries Daniel Herbst, Karoi, 27/10/1977. DOAS
Mr A. A. Hess, Karoi, 25/5/78.
Mr A. Hill, Wedza, 26/6/77.
Mr J. R. Hill, Tokwe, 11/12/78.
Mrs M. Hofmeyr, Fort Victoria, 6/7/79.
Mr K. F. Hogg, Fort Victoria, 19/6/79
Mr H. Holstenberg, Melsetter, 20/10/77.
Mr Jannie Holtzhausen, August 1979. KIA
Mrs A. C. Horton, Nyamandhlovu, 29/8/77.
Mr W. Houston, Inyanga, 14/3/79.
Mr P. Hovell, Mazoe, 13/1/79.
Mr A. V. Howe, Umvukwes, 24/6/75.
Mr J. E. Hudson-Beck, Melsetter, 12/8/76.
Mr T. Hulley, Tengwe, 23/2/79.
Mr R. C. Hunt, Melsetter, 20/10/77.
Mr H. J. Hurley, Centenary, 21/12/77.
Mr D. B. Hutchinson, Lalapanzi, 29/12/78.
Mrs D. I. Hutchinson, Lalapanzi, 29/12/78.
Master B. Hutchinson (6 yrs), Lalapanzi, 29/12/78.
Master V. Hutchinson (3 yrs), Lalapanzi, 29/12/78.

Mr D. C. James, Gwelo, 27/4/76.
Mr J. M. Jeffreys, Marandellas, 7/7/79
Mr L. M. Jellicoe, Centenary, 4/2/73.
Mr L. M. Jellicoe, Centenary, 9/7/78.
Master I. Johnson, Umvukwes, 26/12/77.
Mr J. D. Jordaan, Odzi, 17/9/79.
Mr A. Joubert, Wedza, 30/3/73.
Mr G. D. Joubert, Ayrshire, 22/12/78.

Mr B. J. S. Kearns, Bindura, 15/4/79.
Mr P. Kenchington, Mid-Sabi, 3/2/79.
Mr R. D. Kennedy, Mzingwani, 7/5/79
Mrs I. Kleynhans, Centenary, 24/1/73.
Mr P. J. O. Knight, Doma, 17/5/75.
Mr T. F. Koen, Centenary, 2/2/78.

Mr Derek P. Lamb, Cashel, 11/9/79.
Mr M. Langeman. Melsetter, 22/1/77.
Mr S. Le Vieux, Chiredzi, 7/2/78.
Mr P. Lentner, Shamva, 18/2/79.
Mr R. J. Liebermann, Marandellas, 4/6/78.
Mr J. H. C. Liddle, Bindura, 1/10/78.
Mrs M. E. G. Liebenberg, Shangani, 11/4/79.
Mr W. P. Lilford, Karoi, 9/11/77.
Mrs Caroline Rosalie Luckraft, Odzani, 1/11/1979.

Mr I. D. W. MacGiles, Penhalonga, 21/7/79.
Mr D. H. MacKay, Melsetter, 1/1/77
Mr D. Guy MacKenzie, Shamva, 1/2/77. KIA
Mr T. Margarson, Gwelo, 15/11/78.
Mrs L. M. McFedden, Plumtree, 7/9/76.
Miss S. G. McRoberts, Shamva, 11/3/77.
Mr F. J. Mee, Inyanga, 26/10/78.
Mrs M. A. Mee, Inyanga, 26/10/78.
Mr H. M. Meyer, Plumtree, 29/9/78.
Mrs E. L. Meyer, Plumtree, 29/9/78.
Mr D. Moorcroft, Bindura, 15/12/78.
Mr Solly Moritz, Gatooma, 5t/12/79
Mr K. Mrowic, Que Que, 25/5/78.
Mr G. I. Murdoch, Selous, 18/6/77.
Mr D. S. Muir, Mount Darwin, 13/5/78.
Mr G. J. Muller, Centenary, 25/12/78.
Mr G. J. Myburgh, Mayo, 26/1/77.

Mr P. S. Naude, Centenary, 21/10/76.
Mr S. P. Naude, Somabula, 17/10/76.
Mr F. J. Nel, Tengwe, 23/11/77.
Mr A. C. Newman, Melsetter, 15/10/76.
Mrs Y. Nicol, Gazaland, 17/3/78.
Mr J. D. Nicholson, Nyamandhlovu, 25/5/78.
Mr M. Nielsen, Karoi, 17/12/76.
Mr C. D. Northcroft, Shamva, 20/12/77.

Mr Petrus "Piet" Andries Johannes Oberholtzer, Melsetter, 4/7/64.
Mr C. Ogilvy, Shamva, 13/9/77.
Mr C. H. Olivey, Melsetter, 15/5/78.
Mr F. J. Oosthuizen, Gwelo, 26/9/78.
Mr J. E. Oostindien, Macheke, 15/8/79.

Mrs W. Palmer, Mrewa/Mtoko, 19/10/76.
Mr J. F. B. Payn, Matopos South, 21/9/78.
Mr N. G. Payne, Bindura, 26/1/77.
Mrs F I. Pearson, Selukwe, 28/12/78.
Mr T. M. S. Peech, Macheke/Virginia, 13/7/78.
Mr K. Prinsloo, Chiredzi, 16/4/77.
Miss L. A. Philips, Insiza, 12/7/77.
Mr F. Pitcher, Bindura, 14/6/76.
Mr P. Potgieter, Doma, 9/7/78.
Mr F. Pretorius, Nuanetsi, 18/4/78.
Mr N. H. E. Prince, Tengwe, 23/3/78.
Mr R. W. G. Puckrin, Insiza, 30/10/78.
Mr P. Purcell-Gilpin, Headlands, 4/3/79.
Mr A. Purcell-Gilpin, Headlands, 4/3/79.

Mr W. E. Read, Gatooma, 15/1/78.
Mr W. A. Reinsford, Nyamandhlovu, 10/8/79
Mr J. Reyneke, Gazaland, 8/3/78.
Mr P. J. Richards, Gwanda, 27/11/78.
Mr E. A. Richardson, Belingwe, 24/3/77.
Mr A. J. Ritson, Selukwe, 6/8/77.
Mr J. Roberts, Penhalonga, 22/4/78.
Mr A. Robertson, Gwelo East, 21/8/77.
Mr C. Rosenfels, Kezi, 24/4/79.
Mr D. C. Rosenfels, Marula, 8/2/79.
Mr Ian Rosenfels, Marula, 29/3/78. KIA.
Mr P. Rouse, Centenary, 18/2/74.
Mr N. J. Royston, Karoi, 18/2/78.
Mrs E. M. Rushmore, Myamandhlovu, 6/9/77.

Mrs M. O. A. Scott, Gwelo, 7/2/79.
Mr L. R. Shakespeare, Karoi, 23/8/77.
Mr R. S. Smallman, Melsetter, 11/9/78.
Mr J. Smit, Beatrice, 30/1/79.
Mrs C. Smit, Beatrice, 30/1/79.
Master A. Smit, aged 2 years, Somabula, 18/7/79
Mr R. M. Smith, Insiza/Shangani, 28/7/76.
Mr P. Snyders, Vumba, 9/10/75.
Mr J. Souter, Nuanetsi, 23/1/79.
Mr Trevor Speight, Umvukwes, 18/7/1979. KIA.
Mr D. M. Stacey, Karoi, 9/3/73.
Mr A. Stander, Nuanetsi, 22/2/78.
Mr H. Stander, Nuanetsi, 5/8/78.
Mr A. Stander, Beit Bridge, 15/8/78.
Mr J. U. Stanley, Tengwe, 5/4/78.
Mr S. J. Stander, Beitbridge, 19/6/79
Infant son G. P. Starling, Mtepatepa, 30/3/79.
Mr C. A. Steyn, Cashel, 4/4/78.
Mr F. C. Steyn, Cashel, 18/12/78.
Mr P. Steyn, Odzi, 13/2/79.
Mr Maxwell Stockil, Nuanetsi, 13/12/1979.
Mr V. Stockil-Gill, Marandellas, 27/10/74.
Mr J. Stopforth, Gwelo East, 23/9/77.
Mr J. N. Strydom, Headlands, 9/3/78.
Mr J. Strydom, Inyanga, 2/2/79.
Mr G. Swartz, Gazaland, 12/4/78.
Mr R. Swemmer, Macheke/Virginia, 3/6/78.
Mr E. Swanepoel, Melsetter, 22/8/78.
Mr J. K. G. Syme, Melsetter, 13/9/78.
Mrs Helen A. Syme, Melsetter, 13/9/78.


Mr James Fraser Thomson (35), 19/12/79.
Master C. C. Tilley, Mashonaland South, 11/1/78.
Miss C. C. Tilley, Mashonaland South, 3/9/78.
Mr C. C. Tompson, Nuanetsi, 14/2/78
Mrs V. E. Trinder, Nyamandhlovu, 3/9/79.
Mrs H. Turner, Gazaland, 9/1/79.
Miss S. Turner, Gazaland, 9/1/79.

Mr O. P. Valentine, Melsetter, 12/8/76.
Mr M. A. van Aard, Macheke/Virginia, 30/1/78.
Mr S. P. van Blerk, Headlands, 26/5/78.
Mrs G. van Blerk, Headlands, 26/5/78.
Miss L. van Blerk, Headlands, 26/5/78.
Mr S. van der Merwe, Nuanetsi, 15/2/79.
Mr J. J. F. Van Maarseveen, Cashel, 4/12/77.
Miss M. A. van Reenen, Macheke/Virginia, 15/9/78.
Mr J. J. F. van Vuuren, Matopos South, 22/5/76.
Mr M. J. van Vuuren, Matopos South, 22/5/76.
Mr R. C. Vassard, Chipinga, 12/5/79.
Mr B. Vermeulen, Headlands, 11/1/78.
Mr J. H. Viljoen, Gadzema, 16/5/66
Mrs Viljoen, Gadzema, 16/5/66.
Mr K. D. Viljoen, Melsetter, 1/10/77.
Mrs E. A. Viljoen, Melsetter, 1/10/77.
Mr D. J. Vincent, Centenary, 3/4/73.
Mr E. Volker, Arcturus, 5/8/79.
Mr J. l. S. Vorster, Melsetter, 23/1/78.

Mr D. Ward, Mazoe, 23/6/78.
Mrs S. Watkins, Nuanetsi, 29/12/79.
Mr G. West, Gazaland, 12/11/76.
Mr E. Ronnie T. White, Gatooma, ambushed 5/12/79 and died 6/1/1980.
Mrs C. J. Willers, Gazaland, 10/6/78.
Niss L. Wilger, Nyamandhlovu, 3/9/78.
Master M. Wilger, Nyamandhlovu, 3/9/78.
Mr B. H. Williams, Inyati, 3/8/78.
Mr R. S. Williams, Inyanga, 17/1/78.
Mr N. Willis, Shamva, 14/2/74. KIA.
Mr J. F. Wolfaard, Nuanetsi, 9/2/78.
Mr J. Wright, Odzi, 10/9/77.

Mr C. A. S. Young, Melsetter, 29/4/75.

Mr S. Ziegler, Marandellas, 16/1/78.



Reference: Commercial Farmers Union of Zimbabwe/Remembrance/Roll of Honour of June 2014 + additions



Commercial farmers and families killed on their farms after 1980 (by date):
Mr Abraham Barend Roux, Victoria East, 1981.
Mrs Margaret Roux, Victoria East, 1981.
Mrs Helen van As, Victoria East, 1981.
Philip (Helen's grandson), Victoria East, 1981.
Mr John Patrick Franklin, Mutare, 1981.
Mr Brian Dawe, Chinhoyi, 26/4/1982.
Mr Phil Ellman-Brown, Nyamandhlovu, August 1982.
Mr Hilton-Barber, Filabusi, 1982.
Mr Benjy Williams (71), Turk Mine, 31/12/1982.
Mr David Bilang (24), Turk Mine. Abducted 31/12/82 with his grandfather Benjy Williams.
Mr David Walters (26), Nyamandhlovu, 31/12/82
Master Sean Walters, Nyamandhlovu, 31/12/82
Master Michael Walters, Nyamandhlovu, 31/12/82.
Mr John Hearne (18), Nyamandhlovu, 31/1/2/82.
Mr Gerrit Malan, Rusape, 1983.
Senator Paul Savage, Gwanda, 1983.
Colleen Savage (daughter), Gwanda, 1983.
Mr Barry Brooke, Glendale, 28/5/1983.
Mrs Diana Brooke, Glendale, 28/5/1983.
Mr Ian Brebner (39), Figtree, 13/6/1983.
Mr Joe Phillip van Vuuren, Matabeleland, 5/11/1983.
Mr Trevor Smith, Matabeleland, 1983.
Mr Charlie Loxton, Kezi, 23/12/1983.
Mrs Rosie Loxton, Kezi, 23/12/1983.
Miss Julie Loxton (20), Kezi, 23/12/1983.
Mr Tony Loxton, Kezi, 23/12/1983.
Dr Peter Gradwell, Plumtree, 28/12/1983.
Niece (15) and friend (9), Plumtree, 28/12/1983.
Mr Ian Birchall, Marula, 24/5/1984.
Mr Jack Ehlers, Nyamandhlovu, 23/10/1985.
Mrs Joy Ehlers, Nyamandhlovu, 23/10/1985.
Mr Hector Argyle (40), Shangani, 21/1/1986.
Mr Allan Dicks (70), Somabula. 9/5/1987.
Mr Roy Futter (46), Somabula. 9/5/1987.
Mr Tys Lourens (40ish), Somabula. 9/5/1987.
Mr Glen Williams (48), Somabula. 9/5/1987.
Mr Roy Dabbs, Gweru, 19/5/1987.
Mr Andy MacDonald, Figtree/Marula, 18/8/1987.
Mrs Nettie MacDonald, Figtree/Marula, 18/8/1987.
Mr John Norvall, Nyandhlovu, 26/8/1987.
Mr Brian Hubbard, Gwanda, September-October, 1987.
Mr Stirling, Falls Road.
Mr Dick Bawden, Turk Mine.
Mr Stratford, Umguza.
Mrs Stratford, Umguza.
Granddaughters Taverners, Umguza.

Missionaries were targetted by dissidents with 16 deaths documented at Umzingwane on two farms early on 26th November, 1987. All victims had been hacked to death.
Those killed at the Olive Tree Farm were Jerry Keightley (40), and his wife Marian Keightley (39), their daughters Gay Deborah (16) and Glynis (14), and their 18-month-old son, Barnabas. Another Zimbabwean, Penelope Sarah Lovett (28), and two Americans, David Emerson (35), of Osakis, Minn., and Karen Sharon Iversdahl (32), who was reported to be from Montana, were also killed.
Those killed at the New Adam Farm were David Marais (35), a South African; his wife, Katherine Marais (34), and their son, Ethan (4). Also killed were Robert Hill (38), and his wife, Gaynor (27), and their 6-week-old-old son, Benjamin; Hazel Russell (46), and Jean Campbell, a Briton. Laura Russell (13) escaped.



Farmers who were killed post 2000, or who died from injuries, from Farm Invasions, theft or unknown motives (by date):
Mr David Stevens (49), Murehwa South, Saturday, 15th April, 2000.
Mr Martin G. Olds (43), Bubi-Umguza, 18th April, 2000.
Mr Allan Stewart Dunn, Seke, 7th May 2000.
Mr John Weeks (65), Seke, 14th May 2000.
Mr Tony Oates, Zvimba North, 31st May 2000.
Mr Willem Botha. Seke. 23rd July 2000.
Mr Henry Swan Elsworth (70), Kwekwe, 12th December, 2000.
Mrs Gloria Olds (68), Bubi-Umguza, 4th March, 2001.
Mr Robert Fenwick Cobett. Kwekwe. 6th August 2001.
Mr Terrence "Terry" Ford (55), Mhondoro, 18th March, 2002.
Mr Thomas "Tom" Bayley (88), Mount Hamden. 1st May 2002.
Mr Charles T. T. Anderson* (44), Glendale/Mazowe, 2nd June, 2002.
Mr Pieter Silverton, January 2004.
Mr Ole Sunde (66), Banket. 6th February, 2005.
Mr Donald "Don" Stewart (68), Norton. 26th November 2005.
Mr Phillip Tenant, 1st April 2006.
Mr Mike Campbell (79), Chegutu, falanga torture on 29th June, 2008. Died on 6th April 2011 without recovering.
Mrs Mary Austen (74), Kwekwe, November 2008.
Mr Bob Vaughan-Evans (late 70s), Gweru, 3rd July 2009.
Mr Ray van Rensburg (76), Gweru, 15th July 2009.
Mrs Sophie Hart (75), Kadoma. 29th August 2009.
Mr Kobus Joubert (67), Chegutu, 26th October, 2010.
Mr Lourens Abrams Korsten, assualted 31st December 2010, died 28th February 2011.
Mr Colin Zietsman, Mvurwi. 2nd September, 2011.
Mr Keith Nicholson, Banket. 14th September, 2011.
Mr Bobby Ervine, Guruve. Assaulted on 12nd October 2011, passed away in hospital 8th April 2012.

* The man who shot and killed Charles Anderson four years previously was sentenced to death by the Zimbabwe High Court in 2006. 31 year old Munetsi Kadzinga was given the death sentence by high court Judge Bharat Patel after he was convicted of the 2002 murder. The South African Mail and Guardian newspaper reports that Kadzinga claimed in court that he had been told to carry out attacks on white farmers by senior government officials, including Minister John Nkomo, who ran the Home Affairs ministry at the time. But the judge dismissed the claims and said there were no extenuating circumstances in the case.

"About 18 white farmers were killed in violent takeovers of their land while almost all of the country's 620,000 permanent and seasonal farm-workers were driven away from their homes" John Worsley-Worswick, the head of Justice for Agriculture, a Harare-based lobby group, said. Together with dependents, those workers accounted for two million people, he said.



Extortion and targetted attacks:
A new wave of intimidation replaced the farm invasions and theft. Five murders were commited in the past four years within a 40 km radius as farmers are expected to pay large amounts of extortion money to political authorities.

The tragic and very brutal murder of Malcolm Francis and his daughter, Catherine, on a farm to the north of the country highlights the fragile nature of life without the rule of law. They were attacked in the evening of 10th May, 2014 in Guruve when walking the dogs. They survived from axe wounds for several days before succumbing in hospital.
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Riddle -- Raymond (Schep), Tue, 25 Nov 2014, 17:08:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Murphy, a furniture dealer from Dublin, decided to expand the line of furniture in his store, so he decided to go to Paris to see what he could find.
After arriving in Paris , he visited with some manufacturers and selected a line that he thought would sell well back home. To celebrate the new acquisition, he decided to visit a small bistro and have a glass of wine.
As he sat enjoying his wine, he noticed that the small place was quite crowded, and that the other chair at his table was the only vacant seat in the house.
Before long, a very beautiful young Parisian girl came to his table. She asked him something in French (which Murphy could not understand), so he motioned to the vacant chair and invited her to sit down. He tried to speak to her in English, but she did not speak his language.
After a couple of minutes of trying to communicate with her, he took a napkin and drew a picture of a wine glass
and showed it to her. She nodded, so he ordered a glass of wine for her. After sitting together at the table for a while, he took another napkin, and drew a picture of a plate with food on it,and she nodded.
They left the bistro and found a quiet cafe that featured a small group playing romantic music.
They ordered dinner, after which he took another napkin and drew a picture of a couple dancing. She nodded, and they got up to dance. They danced until the cafe closed and the band was packing up. Back at their table, the young lady took a napkin and drew a picture of a four-poster bed.

To this day, Murphy has no idea how she figured out he was in the furniture business. ??


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. -- gruplsteinhausen (.), Mon, 24 Nov 2014, 15:20:26 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

The search - Thisis listus muchos dedus isis. Jems dogud lapous Rayhooliwoodus mute_is est. - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Make sure all words are spelled correctly.


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gruplsteinhausen -- qwerty_2 (LOL), Mon, 24 Nov 2014, 5:20:30 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)

Thisis listus muchos dedus isis. Jems dogud lapous Rayhooliwoodus mute_is est.


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RHODESIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY -- Tim Murphy,St. Louis, Missouri, USA, Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 23:12:47 (NoHost/209.106.13.97)

To all Rhodesians, in Rhodesia or far afield, HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!


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. -- Ray, Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 21:59:20 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

(From James)
A husband went to police station to report his missing wife:
Husband :-Ive lost my wife, she went shopping yesterday and has still not come home.
Sergeant :-What is her height ?
Husband:-Hmmm not that that tall but not short I am not quite sure.
Sergeant :- Build?
Husband:-Slimmish but may have gotten fat lately.
Sergeant :-Colour of eyes?
Husband :-Greenish or maybe light brown or something like that.
Sergeant :-Colour of hair?
Husband :-Changes according to season.
Sergeant :-What was she wearing?
Husband :Dress/suit/ I dont remember exactly.
Sergeant : Did she go in a car?
Husband :-Yes.
Sergeant :-What kind of car was it?
Husband :-Black Audi A8 with super charged 3.0 liter V6 engine generating 333 horse power with an eight-speed triptonic automatic transmission with manual mode. And it has full LED headlights, which use light emitting diodes for all light functions and has a very thin scratch on the front left door.. At this point the husband started crying...
Sergeant:-Don't worry sir.......We will find your car.


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. -- Ray, Wed, 05 Nov 2014, 17:13:12 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Jo-Pete re helpers, I am so sorry about them looks like you are doomed.


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Bush Telegraph - ABC Radio National -- I'd never seen snakes or goannas!, Thu, 30 Oct 2014, 0:35:52 (NoHost/120.23.183.230)

At first it took some adjusting.

'The weather, just the heat, was tough. You don't realise how big this country is until you actually get out here.

'I'd never seen snakes, or cattle, or big goannas. I was a city person, never really went to farms or had any pets.

'It was a bit of a shock to the system. You can't duck out for a pack of cigs, or over to a mate's for a cup of tea.

'Out here, "just down the road" is 700ks away. It's a military operation just to get to town.' Mr Meally said.

Now a husband and father of a two-year-old, he can't see himself ever returning to his former life.

'When I came out here, it was so peaceful. There's no one bothering you, you just get on with your job.

Bush Telegraph - ABC Radio National

Listen now/Download audio

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/stationlife2/5850172">http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/stationlife2/5850172</a>


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. -- Ray, Tue, 28 Oct 2014, 14:59:12 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Okie...lots of Tokoloshes here now in California, illegals, its Halloween..


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Tokoloshes -- Jo Pete, Tue, 28 Oct 2014, 12:52:29 (ti-224-27-100.telkomadsl.co.za/105.224.27.100)

Yo BT. Thanks for Tokolosh tips Ray. I will try this. Thing is I'm up against it a bit here. Matilda,my carer, is the Queen of Tokolosh,not to mention Mthakathi.
TerryK if my memory serves me right Jimmy White started TT Motorcycles. I remember seeing the racing Aermacchi250 raced by Rob Paynter there about 1969. My first bike was a 50cc Suzuki called Flash which reliably took me to work for a year. took me


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Joke - temperature. -- James, Thu, 23 Oct 2014, 4:58:33 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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NEVER PISS OFF A NURSE...

I remember this 'joke' being played out in one of the "Carry On" films... JS


A big shot attorney had to spend a couple of days in the
hospital. He was a royal pain to the nurses because he bossed them around just like he did his staff. None of the hospital staff wanted to have anything to do with him.

The head nurse was the only one who could stand up to him. She came into his room and announced, "I have to take your temperature."

fter complaining for several minutes, he finally settled down, crossed his arms and opened his mouth.

"No, I'm sorry," the nurse stated,"but for this
reading, I can't use an oral thermometer." This started another round of complaining but eventually he rolled over and bared his behind.

After feeling the nurse insert the thermometer, he heard her announce,"I have to get something. Now you stay JUST LIKE THAT until I get back!"

She left the door to his room open on her way out. He cursed under his breath as he heard people walking past his door,laughing...

After about 20 minutes, the man's doctor came into the room.

"What's going on here?" asked the doctor.

Angrily, the man answered, "What's the matter, Doc? Haven't you ever seen someone having their temperature taken?"

After a pause, the doctor confessed... "Not with a Daffodil."


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Family farms: A case study of Zimbabwe -- Barry, Wed, 22 Oct 2014, 3:25:18 (NoHost/120.19.248.37)

Family farms: A case study of Zimbabwe

Zimbabwe has gone from being Africa's food bowl to stocking just salt and tissues on supermarket shelves

More
Listen/Download
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/zimbabwe-farm/5809298">http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/zimbabwe-farm/5809298</a>


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Uncommon Knowledge -- Liam Fox, Fri, 17 Oct 2014, 5:56:29 (NoHost/120.23.180.103)


In this episode of Uncommon Knowledge, Peter sits down with Liam Fox, member of Parliament and former secretary of state for defense, who also remains on every journalists short list of those most likely to one day become leader of the Conservative or Tory Party. Fox discusses many themes in his new book, Rising Tides, as well as current issues regarding the purpose of NATO, Scotlands move for independence, and the conflicts in the Middle East.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.hoover.org/research/liam-fox">http://www.hoover.org/research/liam-fox</a>


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Past yer eyes -- ray, Fri, 17 Oct 2014, 1:26:33 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

A blonde heard that baths in milk would make her beautiful.
She left a note for her milkman to leave 25 gallons of milk.
When the milkman read the note, he felt there must be a mistake. He thought she probably meant 2.5 gallons.
So he knocked on the door to clarify the point.
The blonde came to the door and the milkman said, "I found your note asking me to leave 25 gallons of milk.
Did you mean 2.5 gallons?"
The blonde said, "No, I want 25 gallons. I'm going to fill my bathtub up with milk and take a milk bath so I can look young and beautiful again!
The milkman asked, "Do you want it pasteurized?"

The blonde said, "No, just up to my tits ... I can splash it on my eyes!"


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This Interview Is Beyond Belief - Reason Hasn't Go A Hope -- Barry, Wed, 08 Oct 2014, 14:58:04 (NoHost/120.23.241.31)

Prominent member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, Wassim Doureihi, discusses the Prime Minister's comments about extremist organisations

Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 08/10/2014
Reporter: Emma Alberici

Video/Transcript
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm">http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm</a>


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. -- Ray, Wed, 01 Oct 2014, 22:54:57 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Okie


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Ray -- Jenz, Mon, 29 Sep 2014, 21:16:30 (41-133-180-196.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.180.196)

Thanks for the info regarding the Norma Lorre Goodrich books. Will certainly keep them in mind. However, there is a postal strike in Jhb at present, so will not order yet, lest they disappear en route.


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Speech at Wolverhampton -- Enoch, Sun, 28 Sep 2014, 6:09:15 (NoHost/120.19.249.111)

Speech at Wolverhampton

12th December, 1966

With determination and with a sense of relief that the definitive parting of the ways had been reached, the Conservative Party voted against the Governments Rhodesian policy. I was proud to go among them into the division lobby.


<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.enochpowell.net/fr-76.html">http://www.enochpowell.net/fr-76.html</a>


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King Arthur -- Ray, Tue, 23 Sep 2014, 16:37:55 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Jen, the most knowledgeable amazing author on the Round Table period is a university professor named Norma Lorre Goodrich. Her books are very scholarly and a hard read but she shows the most amazing ability to dig out the real truth about Merlin, Lady of the Lake and Arthur. I read her book Merlin but did not read her book on King Arthur.
Here is her Merlin Book:

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.amazon.com/Merlin-Norma-Lorre-Goodrich/dp/0060971835/ref=la_B000APFTLA_1_3_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411485586&sr=1-3">http://www.amazon.com/Merlin-Norma-Lorre-Goodrich/dp/0060971835/ref=la_B000APFTLA_1_3_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411485586&sr=1-3</a>

For example she quickly exposes the story passed down that the Lady Of the Lake murdered Merlin as false and caused by the rabid anti-feminism of the dark ages period. She points out the The Lady (Vivienne) founded hospitals and healed the sick and to do this to Merlin would have been totally against her nature. She actually stood by Merlin her life-long companion, and soothed his death, at the age of 83.

I have not read her King Arhtur, but if it is anything like Her Merlin, I am sure it will be the best book written on the subject.
Both books are available from Amazon as used copies for basically only the shipping cost of about $4.00. If you have difficulty in getting the books in SA then let me know I will purchase them and mail them.


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How to Outsmart Tokoloshes -- Ray, Tue, 23 Sep 2014, 16:08:42 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Pete, the most effective anti-tokoloshe procedure I have found is the "God Bless" (the situation) method.
Tokoloshes are always carrying away my things like car keys, important documents etc, and all I do is I say God Bless the keys etc.
The Tokoloshe immediately relents, and I find the object within moments. I swear. Also I have found another anti-tokoloshe trick.
Whenever I lay something down somewhere, I stand back, look at the object, raise my finger and say "STAY!" No tokoloshe will then ever dare to touch the object, and I immediately find it when I need it.
Struse works like a charm. (It is).
The worst you can do, and most people do this, is to curse the situation. The tokoloshe is only too happy to carry out the curse.


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TT Motorcycles -- TerryK, Tue, 23 Sep 2014, 15:02:15 (host86-180-194-84.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.194.84)

I remember TT Motorcycles - somewhere down the bottom end of Harare. Among other things they operated as bike breakers. I bought a replacement engine there for the second of my ill fated Gold Star ventures while I was at UCT. I think that Ophie opened up his machine shop in that part of town.

Safe my Mate.


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RIDGEBACK bikes -- JO pete, Tue, 23 Sep 2014, 13:22:09 (105-184-186-91.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/105.184.186.91)

YO BT. Thanks for advice TerryK. This I will try.
I'm virtually certain that a bike called The Ridgeback was manufactured bt TT Motorcycles in the late 60's. It was a untility type bike powered by maybe a 197cc Villiers motor.


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RIDGEBACK -- TerryK, Mon, 22 Sep 2014, 6:46:36 (host86-180-194-84.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.194.84)

Murungu / James -

The Google search appears to cover modern "Ridgebacks".

The original Rhodesian bike dates back to the 1950's when Triumph 650s were all the rage during my under 16 biking days and were de rigueur on dirt track. The most famous on tar was the Triumph engined Norton Ridgeback built by John Love and taken over by Gary Hocking who made his name on it before going overseas. (Google Rhodesian Sporting Profiles). Its vintage means that the engine must have been Tiger 110 based rather than Bonneville although the twin carb heads were available on the racing scene before the Bonneville was released in 1959. A one time BT correspondent (Morag Tritt ???) had the inside story and once sent me a lot of photos. These days the Triumph / Norton hybrid lives on in Pomerania as the Triton, generally in Caf Racer format and worth well over 10k if you have a good one !!! The underlying objective is to match the lighter and "guttsier" Triumph motor with the more refined and better handling Norton frame.

I have been lucky enough to own three Bonnevilles real time 59 and 60 models through wheeling and dealing while still at school and a 69 during the 80s and 90s long after they had become classics. I have tried to revisit Bonnevilles during my geriatric biking phase but cannot deal with the vibration and lack of brakes, rear view mirrors and indicators compared to modern bikes.

The Ridgeback name has been heavily pirated on the Harley Davidson etc chopper biking scene.

TerryK


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ridgeback motorbike - see Google. -- James, Mon, 22 Sep 2014, 4:01:43 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Murungu: I simply typed in, "ridgeback motorbike" into the Google search engine and it came up not only with pictures of various models but also loads of sites devoted to the motorbike.
James.

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Ridgeback bike -- murungu, Mon, 22 Sep 2014, 2:44:59 (adsl-108-129-147-242.aby.bellsouth.net/108.129.147.242)

Does anyone know the technical details of the Ridgeback motorbike? I saw an ad for one in a 1968 edition of the Outpost.


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Tokoloshes -- TerryK, Fri, 19 Sep 2014, 20:05:45 (host86-180-194-84.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.194.84)

Jo Pete - bugger the household equipment - you need personal protection - bricks under the legs of the bed - more at the tail end of the bed works best.

Safe my Mate
Terryk


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Tokoloshes -- Jo Pete, Fri, 19 Sep 2014, 12:36:44 (ti-226-25-51.telkomadsl.co.za/105.226.25.51)

Yo BT. My house has had a serious invasion of tokoloshes,mainly technical. These may be related to the fact that this house is now totally reliant on female technology.
Yesterday we wrongly cursed Eskom for a power outage. When it was discovered that all the neighbourhood had power the missus was prevailed upon to check the DB. The earth leakage had tripped owing to the fact that the missus had sprayed a lampost in the garden with a garden sprayer. Earlier in the day olly,the landscaper,had received instruction from the missus on operating the adjustable garden sprayer. Later I got quite cross when I discovered that Solly had cunningly set the sprayer to water only the brick paved driveway.
Then a Tokolosh was placed in my cellphone,causing the alarm to go off at 3am. Tokoloshes have also been pl;aced in various domestic appliances,and in my computer which is now slower than Solly.
Now there is a bloody tokolosh in the electric gate,which now won't losten to the remote. The Taliban Terrorist is waiting to enter. She refuses to climb over the gate.
Does anyone know how to eradicate tokoloshes?


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Ray -- Jen, Fri, 19 Sep 2014, 10:39:21 (41-133-242-69.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.242.69)

BTW Ray, that book I recommended also maintains that Arthur was of the Votadini tribe, and hailed from close to modern-day Edinburgh. What's more, they find his name! (Arthur was a title, meaning "Bear")


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. -- Ray, Fri, 19 Sep 2014, 1:16:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hi Jen, I redid the readings and they persist in stating that MS-MRO went down in the ocean near Diego Garcia and that MS-MRD was shot down at Shattarsk. Nevertheless my readings concur with that link in very important points, namely the plane was hi-jacked to Diego Garcia and all the passengers are dead. Thanks for you recommendation of the King Arthur Book


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King Arthur and Missing Planes -- Jen, Thu, 18 Sep 2014, 13:09:49 (41-133-181-93.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.133.181.93)

Ray... There are some interesting ideas in the book "King Arthur, the true story" by Graham Phillips and Martin Keatman. Published 1992. ISBN 0 09 929681 0

And for whoever may be interested... have a look at <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://worldtruth.tv/mh-17-was-in-fact-the-lost-flight-mh-370/">http://worldtruth.tv/mh-17-was-in-fact-the-lost-flight-mh-370/</a> for another angle on those missing planes.


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Another bible story -- Barbara (Goss), Mon, 15 Sep 2014, 21:00:47 (CPE-124-191-155-33.iqla1.woo.bigpond.net.au/124.191.155.33)

God made Eve and put her in the beautiful garden of Eden. After a week he came to her and asked if she was happy. She said everything was perfect except that she did not like the way he had designed her, with three breasts - it was uncomfortable. "No worries" said God (who happens to be Australian) and he plucked the middle breast from her chest and flung it away.

He came back a week later to see how she was, and she said everything was perfect except that she was lonely and would like a companion. "Of course I can do that" said God. He Looked around the bushes saying "Now where did I put that useless tit?"


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Your Bible Story For Today -- Ray, Mon, 15 Sep 2014, 19:33:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Nothing like a good Bible story to make your day.

Adam was hanging around the garden of Eden feeling very lonely. So, God asked him, "What's wrong with you?"

Adam said he didn't have anyone to talk to.

God said that He was going to make Adam a companion
and that it would be a woman.
He said, "This pretty lady will gather food for you, she will cook for you, and when you discover clothing, she will wash it for you.
"She will always agree with every decision you make and she will not nag you,and will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement.

"She will praise you!

"She will bear your children,and never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them.

"She will NEVER have a headache and will freely give you love and passion whenever you need it."

Adam asked God, "What will a woman like this cost?"
God replied, "An arm and a leg."
Then Adam asked, "What can I get for a rib?"

Of course the rest is history!
Nothing like a good Bible story to make your day.


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2-wheeled tank... -- James, Tue, 09 Sep 2014, 21:54:15 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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JO PETE.

It's staggering the rpm and speed they can squeeze from a 125cc bike these days. More comfortable with my old (1932!)
girder-forked Triumph Scout, I was taken aback when I tested a 125 bike I was thinking of treating myself to in Canada in 1966. I let the clutch out and the damn thing leapt forward doing a 'wheelie'. I didn't buy the bike, but later bought the 125 MZ Alpine and East German machine which ran (and still runs) like a two-wheeled tank. I have never had it above 60mph because above that it shudders and
complains.
J.
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Howzit -- Jo Pete, Tue, 09 Sep 2014, 14:01:47 (105-229-18-160.north.dsl.telkomsa.net/105.229.18.160)

Yo BT. Hell a lot of activity since my last visit,so quite a lot of kak. However the top speeds of bikes interests me. Modern day 125cc production bikes can exceed the ton My last bike,in 2001, was a Yamaha R1. This apparently was good for 310 KPH but my gonads were big enough for only about 280 according to the speedo. Sorry summonsed for "walk" tjek you later.


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Hair-raising drive, ,, -- James, Thu, 04 Sep 2014, 21:55:34 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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TERRY K: It was around that time (1959 I think) that I was
in a Sunbeam Alpine sharing the driving and the cost of the petrol with the owner on a hair-raising drive from Bulawayo to Durban. Car's owner was Bill Galloway and he was a nervous wreck; I had never driven before!
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Artificial photosynthesis the future of solar? -- Future Tense, Thu, 04 Sep 2014, 6:04:02 (NoHost/120.19.248.21)

Plants make energy very efficiently: they take sunlight, water and carbon-dioxide and turn it into fuel to make them grow. So what if humans could mimic that process for their own fuel?

Around the world researchers are hard at work perfecting the science of Artificial Photosynthesis. At Harvard and other institutions theyve already had considerable success.

The big challenge now is taking the work out of the lab and scaling it up.

In this episode we talk with a leading scientist engaged in this ground-breaking research. We also meet Professor Thomas Faunce from the ANU who sees artificial photosynthesis not just as a potential new form of power, but as a moral imperative for addressing climate change.

Audio/Transcript
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/futuretense/artificial-photosynthesis-e28093-the-future-of-solar3f/5697950">http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/futuretense/artificial-photosynthesis-e28093-the-future-of-solar3f/5697950</a>


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Shot down Malaysian plane -- Hanks other sister Skank (floccinaucinihilipilificatious), Wed, 03 Sep 2014, 23:53:55 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

Now that the whereabouts of the missing plane have been revealed, investigators for f**ksake will you please take notes, would the good doctor please gaze into his magic rugby ball and tell everyone who shot the other Malaysian plane down


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Would you care if the Irish language died? -- The Pat Kenny Show, Wed, 03 Sep 2014, 6:24:07 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Listen Back: 1st September 2014 Part 2
Pat Kenny brings his experienced broadcasting style and incisive analysis to the day's news and current affairs. Every weekday from 10am-12.30pm
Phone: 1890453106 Text: 53106 cost 30c
patkenny@newstalk.ie

AUDIO
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.newstalk.ie/player/shows/The_Pat_Kenny_Show/13240/12476/01st_September_2014_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_2">http://www.newstalk.ie/player/shows/The_Pat_Kenny_Show/13240/12476/01st_September_2014_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_2</a>


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Flight 370 and Flight MH7 -- ., Fri, 29 Aug 2014, 0:19:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Ok Skankie a challenge is a challenge.
Here it is.
1. The plane crashed.
2. Nobody is alive.
3. The plane was crashed deliberately by the pilot.
Co-ordinates 13 degrees 01 28.1 S 84 degrees 04 54.2 E
The minutes and seconds are approximate but can be more accurately determined by radiesthesia.
4. Its approx halfway between Cocos islands and British Indian Ocean Territory.
The pilot himself hijacked (diverted the plane) on a suicide mission to Diego Garcia.
5. Three accomplices confiscated passengers satellite cellphones at gunpoint. A few did try call but were brutally suppressed.
6. USN responds, sends up fighters.
7. They did not want to shoot down the plane near Diego Garcia for secrecy purposes. They forced the plane to divert to open ocean south east of Diego Garcia.
8. The pilot, when he realized the mission had failed, ditched the plane.
9. The incident is suppressed by the NSA because of sensitive installations at Diego Garcia. They do not want any unnecessary attention drawn to the location.
9. The shooting down of Malaysian Flight MH7 at the Ukraine was in retaliation for this attempted terrorist attack.


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. -- ., Thu, 28 Aug 2014, 19:24:25 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

There are lots of established psychics that can tell you what happened but no authority will listen to them.
Thomas Sugrue in his book "There is a River" cites actual documented proof of psychic ability, some of the proof he cites is from actual police and government records.


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. -- Ray, Thu, 28 Aug 2014, 19:20:32 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Nobody asked me to.


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Missing Malaysian plane -- Hanks other sister Skank (floccinaucinihilipilificatious), Wed, 27 Aug 2014, 23:37:56 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

I'm surprised the investigators haven't shown up in 90210 to get the exact locale of the plane after Doc Hollywood gazes into his magic rugby ball


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. -- Raymond (Schep), Mon, 25 Aug 2014, 23:41:24 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

On the contrary it is a past that I would like to remember.
-Proud Old South African. I got THREE DOLLARS for my South African Rand in 1974. One of the richest most prosperous countries in the world, now I hear there are white squatter camps.


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. -- Ray, Mon, 25 Aug 2014, 23:35:58 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Quote from Below;
"It was clear that the talks would culminate in a one man, one vote election being held, resulting in black majority rule and the birth of a new country, Zimbabwe, rising out of the Rhodesian ashes."

What Rhodesian Ashes???
Rhodesian was a fully functioning country with 4000 farms, roads, electricity, water, functioning economy, when Mug-ape took over. Mug-ape reduced it to ashes!!


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"You are twice as likely to be murdered if you are a white farmer than if you are a police officer -- Do white people have a future in South Africa?, Sun, 24 Aug 2014, 5:16:30 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Working-class white people, most of them Afrikaans-speakers, are going through an intense crisis. But you will not read about it in the newspapers or see it reported on television because their plight seems to be something arising out of South Africa's bad old past - a past which everyone, black and white, would like to forget.

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22554709?">http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22554709?</a>


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Selous Scout's Last Mission: Three Sips of Gin -- SELOUS SCOUTS LAST MISSION: KILL ROBERT MUGABE, Sun, 24 Aug 2014, 4:52:06 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

It was late 1979, and the internationally-brokered peace talks between the Rhodesian government and the two leading terrorist factions, Joshua Nkomos Zimbabwe Peoples Revolutionary Army (ZIPRA) and Robert Mugabes Zimbabwe African National Liberation Army (ZANLA), were well under way. It was clear that the talks would culminate in a one man, one vote election being held, resulting in black majority rule and the birth of a new country, Zimbabwe, rising out of the Rhodesian ashes.


<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.sofmag.com/selous-scouts-last-mission-three-sips-gin">http://www.sofmag.com/selous-scouts-last-mission-three-sips-gin</a>


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The White Slums -- Reggie Yates's Extreme South Africa, Sun, 24 Aug 2014, 4:47:56 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Twenty years since the first free elections and in the shadow of Nelson Mandela's death, Reggie Yates gets up close and personal with three very different communities in contemporary South Africa. By living amongst them for a week, what will he discover about the extremes of this misunderstood country in the 21st Century?

In the first episode, Reggie spends a week in South Africa's largest white squatter camp, Coronation Park, outside Johannesburg. South Africa has a white population of approximately 4.6 million and during apartheid the racist political system elevated them into a privileged position. Today, however, white youth charities claim that up to 400,000 of them now live below the poverty line, with many shacked up in small, makeshift camps, although these figures remain hotly disputed.

But behind the headlines lies an uncomfortable question: are young white South Africans now the ones being discriminated against by being on the wrong side of affirmative action? And if so, will black and white ever be truly equal in South Africa?


<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03w4bsv">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03w4bsv</a>


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Selous Scouts -- Tim Murphy, St. Louis, Missouri, USA, Fri, 22 Aug 2014, 2:41:20 (NoHost/209.106.13.97)

In the current issue of Soldier Of Fortune magazine is an article about a mission of the Selous Scouts to assassinate Robert Mugabe, if anyone might be interested.


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HOOTS MON -- TerryK, Sat, 16 Aug 2014, 8:09:21 (host86-156-199-234.range86-156.btcentralplus.com/86.156.199.234)

HOOTS MON JAMES - back in bonny Gwelo around about 1960, Midlands Hotel News Year's Eve Bash, Aubrey Beddingfield's Band, Aubrey himself on sax playing "Hoots Mon - It's a Braw Bricht Monlicht Nicht" !!!!! And Boggie's Clock a short stomp away !!!

James this is all part of OUR history .... and when is Jo Pete going to snap at some of my bait ???

Did a bit of Googling during the rain yesterday and came up with the Frisian Language's centred around the North Sea and Baltic. I don't want to cut and paste here but I reckon it goes some way towards explaining my earlier posting about the fishermen.

Check nicely
TerryK


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A braw day... -- James, Fri, 15 Aug 2014, 22:16:32 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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TERRY K. East coasters in Scotland generally don't have the(speak) Gaelic. The Norse lot including Danes pretty well occupied Scotland for several hundred years. Interesting that exactly half the place names on the Isle of Skye, for example, are Norse in origin. A lot of north east fishermen will be Doric speakers, braid Scots, and many of the words came to us from Scandinavia. I was in Sweden once and renting a room. The landlady - unusual for a Swede - spoke not a word of English. Happily, I recognized the word 'braw' she used to describe the room. Nae problem there. Lots of Scots - especially those from the north east - still talk of it being a 'braw' day when the sun shines.
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GAELIC -- TerryK, Fri, 15 Aug 2014, 7:45:29 (host86-156-199-234.range86-156.btcentralplus.com/86.156.199.234)

While working in Jutland (Denmark) I was told that the fishermen on the west coast of the peninsula could communicate with fishermen from the east coast of Scotland when they met up in the North Sea in a language that was neither Danish or Scottish(English). Could this be down to their Celtish / Gaelic origins ???


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Close... -- JAMES, Fri, 15 Aug 2014, 0:35:35 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Scottish Gaelic is close to the Irish - my Ma used to listen to RTE Gaelic news and get most of it and she was a Scottsh Gaelic speaker.
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RT and GAA to launch worldwide streaming service -- GAA, Thu, 14 Aug 2014, 6:09:15 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

You can watch Gaelic games online!

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2014/0401/606033-gaa-rights-deal-2/">http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2014/0401/606033-gaa-rights-deal-2/</a>


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Home Front -- BBC, Thu, 14 Aug 2014, 5:20:31 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Daily drama set in Great War Britain. Pure enthralling fiction, set against a backdrop of fact, each 12m episode will be set a hundred years to the day before broadcast, and the series will last the length of the war.


AUDIO
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/ww1homefront">http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/ww1homefront</a>


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Bovine excrement -- prituos12 (LOL), Thu, 14 Aug 2014, 4:49:57 (TOROON2717W-LP130-01-3096612002.dsl.bell.ca/184.146.140.162)

Boring BS re kelts, celts, kilts ...
>Why don't you two anal orifices
>(Rayweird/Jemssycophant) communicate by email instead
>of cluttering this lurker-only wilderness with inane
>attempts at appearing intellectually
>gifted?


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. -- Ray, Wed, 13 Aug 2014, 15:43:33 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Actually I may have to correct myself, Dr.Goodrich, if I can remember correctly, stated that at Merlin's time in the sixth century the was no distinction between Scottish and Welsh, there were only Celts. And then of course there were the Picts. Lady Goodrich was knighted for her work in Ancient medieval history.


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Celt -- James, Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 23:39:21 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Kelt/Celt... Another confusion. You can say, "He is of Celtic stock..." with the C pronounced as a K'. But Celtic football team is definitely pronounced Seltic.

Another wird one is the word Gaelic - if it's pronounced GAYlick then it is Erse (Irish) but 98% of the time the Gaels (pron. Gales) in Scotland pronounce it with the same
'a' as in 'garlic'. I have never heard Gaelic prounced GAYlick by a Gaelic speaker, but I have hear a Gaelic speaker speaking English who said. 'GAYlick'. Oy vey.
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. -- Ray, Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 23:12:53 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Sorry James so it is Celt not Kelt. Musta got confused with what they wear. Kilts.


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Yo -- Ray, Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 23:07:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Barbara, I have always wondered how those sour little fruits are consumed.

Now I know.


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. -- Ray (Schep), Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 21:33:28 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

On Amazon website,
TerryK if you do get it prepare yourself for a massive read it is intensely scholarly but if you do, you will have the truth, this woman, Professor emeritus, has a razor sharp mind, unfortunately a bit radical for the traditionalists I must warn.

Merlin by Norma Lorre Goodrich (Jan 4, 1989)
(13)
FREE Shipping on orders over $35
$17.99 $15.81 Used Copies $2.48 $0.01 $8.50
Library Binding
$46.91 $0.01 $9.88


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Fastest on a bike... -- James, Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 21:05:45 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Funy how daft a young male is on a motorbike; I wonder if they should be allowed to ride until age 30... I shudder when I think back to the idiotic things I did on bikes when I was young. In the twilight of my senecence I seem to
drop my top speed by aboput 3mph with every year which passes.

I always wanted, but never could afford, a Triumph Trophy
which I think came out around 1953. I guess I could afford one now, but if if fell on me I'd have to wait to be recued.

Fastest I ever saw a wee bike go was when one of my Dad's chums in NR let his pet leopard out of the car for a run and it set off after a black gent on a wee bike. He couldn't outrun the leopard, but by God, he sure tried!

Very few ladies have posted on BT over the years.


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Where are the girls? -- Barbara (Goss), Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 20:55:39 (CPE-124-191-155-33.iqla1.woo.bigpond.net.au/124.191.155.33)

Well I have my first attempt at cumquat liqueur nearly ready to drink. (Equal quantities of comquats, sugar and brandy, left for three months if you can wait that long...) Ok all that sugar is not good for you, but in tiny glasses it should be delicious!


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Tiger 110 -- roger (Roger & June Mabbett), Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 10:10:24 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)

Sorry, was in fact a sports Thunderbird :(


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A Ton -- Roger, Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 10:06:39 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)

James,

I once almost hit the ton on a 650cc 1954 Triumph Tiger 110, was in effect a sports Bonneville.

The speed wobbles rattled my teeth, would not try it again with dentures.


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BOREDOM GONE -- TerryK (Kirkpatrick), Tue, 12 Aug 2014, 8:12:22 (host86-180-194-54.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.194.54)

Good work boys (but where are the girls ???) I really enjoyed my coffee at sunrise this morning reading your posts.

Ray - for my part I bottled my sloe berries yesterday. As a change I used vodka rather than gin. I will take my 2013 brew (gin) out to Cape Town in October - they were hugely enjoyed as an "agterskot" to our Christmas dinner last year.

Not only but also - which Norma Goodrich book are you referring to - Amazon shows a whole clutch of them ???

James - just scraped a ton out of my father's ex BSAP 650 Gold Flash back in 1960. Still managing to do it on my current CB400 VTEC Superfour. Bots/Zim/Jo Pete was party to some of this in case he is lurking somewhere on the fringes here.

Safe my Mates
Keep Posting.


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A conspiracy of Scots... -- James, Mon, 11 Aug 2014, 22:19:55 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Ray,

I have heard that argument before somewhere - that Merlin etc. were Celts. Gosh, I even read that Robin Hood was a Scot! I have also heard that the Scots are not a nation; they are a conspiracy!

Growing up in the Highlands I can remember quite a few folk who really believed that they were part of the Lost Tribe of Israel and that Gaelic was the language spoken in the Garden of Eden... Two of my neighbours also claimed they had seen fairies.

I am busy trying to list what I lost when a foot of water came into my Toronto basement. The waters seem to have had a mind of their own - one book which I really could not save was my Teach Yourself Gaelic. And the water attacked and destroyed my whole Just William collection. Odd thing is the the water gave my VCR tapes and reel to reel tapes and LP records a fungus and mould but audio cassettes seem unharmed by the dunking.
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This and That -- Ray, Mon, 11 Aug 2014, 21:21:02 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

I have succeeded in growing Goji berries if that helps. As the bush is small the berries are quite small but hopefully they will get bigger as the bush gets bigger. Also have 42 mielie plants 6 inches tall and about 12 Okra plants 6 in tall and four blueberry plants not big enough to bear blue berries yet.

James I am studying up on Merlin and King Arthur and the Lady of the Lake. A brilliant woman historian called Lady Dr. Norma Goodrich in her book on Merlin has completely revised the history and has enraged historians that repeat the old hack and falsehoods that have been propagated for centuries about Merlin. She traveled Wales and Scotland, translated works in Latin into Gaelic and was able to identify many place names since changed, and concluded that Arthur, Merlin and the Lady of the Lake were.......
Scottish Kelt!

Go and read my posting in the "Talk" section in the wikipedia article on Merlin.


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Ton up kid... -- James, Mon, 11 Aug 2014, 16:54:42 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Terry K: Yes, site is considerably diminished. It's hard to believe that the attacks on the people posting are not
orchestrated. Some attacks were unprovoked and quite vicious.

Site has also suffered from the loss following the passing of such gentlemen as Savage and Jimbo.

A ton on a motorbike... When William (who used to post on BT) learned that my bike was a mere 125 2-stroke MZ he told me that wasn't a bike - it was a sewing machine! My sewing machine has a top speed of maybe 60mph if you could stand the shaking.

I was about 19 when I first did a ton on a bike and mighty
fast it seemed too! The bike was an odd hybrid registered as an OEC - think it was a mix of something like Matchless and Norton.
James.
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BOREDOM -- TerryK, Mon, 11 Aug 2014, 9:58:28 (host86-180-194-54.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.194.54)

Really dead / boring here. Has the mindless Aussie recommended viewing O driven people away.

Surely somebody has -
- met an old mate
- seen an unusual bird (feathered)
- done a ton on their bike
- supported a winning rugby side (Ray and I have not !!!)
- heard a good Rhodie joke - perhaps a bit non PC
- got massive smashed and crashed their car
- etc. etc.

Popping in here while surfing about ends up being rather pointless. Used to be interesting before all the character assassinations started.

Safe my Mates
Gwelo Days !!!
TerryK


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Flight possibly collided with a secret drone -- Knut Holt, Thu, 07 Aug 2014, 14:05:30 (NoHost/213.138.171.50)

Taken down or kidnapped by UFOs or the like have since long been launched as explanation for the disappearance of flight 370.

But it is strange that an obvious possibility has never been mentioned: That it collided with one of the many secret drones flying around. The drone could have penetrated the cabin, and incapacitated both crew and passengers, whereafter the plane possibly flew a long way further on autopilot.

Before the collision, the pilots could have turned to avoid collision, or the collision itself could disturbe the direction, which explains the change in flight direction.

Knuty holt
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abicana.com/drones.htm">http://www.abicana.com/drones.htm</a>


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. -- Ray, Wed, 06 Aug 2014, 18:08:22 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hi Rich, that is what old Rothschild, who loans money to Governments to make war, is hoping what you think.


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Reunion -- Ray, Wed, 06 Aug 2014, 15:20:06 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hi Antis, may you have a good reunion. BCJ lives in Lambert's Bay.


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Bothashof Get Together in South Africa -- Antis Van Vuuren (nee Kotze) (Happy), Wed, 06 Aug 2014, 7:34:57 (197-86-129-105.cpt.mweb.co.za/197.86.129.105)

We are organizing a get together for all ex Bothashof School oldies on the 8th November 2014 at Rietvlei Dam, Pretoria. Please contact Josina Van Zyl (nee Oosthuizen) on
012 6621207 for directions and info. It will be a picnic. Bring your basket of food and ofcourse what ever you drink. Lets see who else is there that we can remember. Oldies and Young ones irrespective of the year you left. Old or young we all have something in common


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John Lear -- Rich, Thu, 31 Jul 2014, 13:48:09 (d110-32-176-64.sbr802.nsw.optusnet.com.au/110.32.176.64)

Ya well, very interesting but I'm thinking he is not a reliable source, Ray.
Lots of loonytunes in the States, hey? Perhaps he is one of them?


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. -- Ray, Sun, 27 Jul 2014, 5:16:19 (cpe-76-171-150-240.socal.res.rr.com/76.171.150.240)

Found this at the Las Vegas Courthouse... amazing freakin stuff...yes the world trade center went down but no planes could possibly have done it JohnLlear has brilliant credentials..

AFFIDAVIT

STATE OF NEVADA :


COUNTY OF CLARK :

JOHN LEAR, of full age, being duly sworn, deposes and says:

I.

1. I am 65 years of age, a retired airline captain and former CIA pilot with over 19,000 hours of flight time, over 11,000 of which are in command of 3 or 4 engine jet transports, have flown over 100 different types

of aircraft in 60 different countries around the world. I retired in 2001 after 40 years of flying.

2. I am the son of Learjet inventor, Bill Lear, and hold more FAA airman certificates than any other FAA certificated airman. These include the Airline Transport Pilot certificate with 23 type ratings, Flight Instructor, Flight Engineer, Flight Navigator, Ground Instructor, Aircraft Dispatcher, Control Tower Operator and Parachute Rigger.

3. I flew secret missions for the CIA in Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa between 1967 and 1983.

4. During the last 17 years of my career I worked for several passenger and cargo airlines as Captain, Check Airman and Instructor. I was certificated by the FAA as a North Atlantic (MNPS) Check Airman. I have extensive experience as command pilot and instructor in the Boeing 707, Douglas DC-8 and Lockheed L-1011.

5. I checked out as Captain on a Boeing 707 in 1973 and Captain on the Lockheed L-1011 in 1985.

6. I hold 17 world records including Speed Around the World in a Lear Jet Model 24 set in 1966 and was presented the PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Association) award for Outstanding Airmanship in 1968. I am a Senior Vice-Commander of the China Post 1, the American

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Legions Post for Soldiers of Fortune, a 24 year member of the Special Operations Association and member of Pilotfor911truth.org.

7. I have 4 daughters, 3 grandchildren and live with my wife of 37 years, Las Vegas business woman Marilee Lear in Las Vegas, Nevada.

II.

8. No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors. Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted for the following reasons:

A. In the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun telescoping when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center. The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

B. The engines when impacting the steel columns would have maintained their general shape and either fallen to the ground or been recovered in the debris of the collapsed building. One alleged engine part was found on Murray Street but there should be three other engine cores weighing over 9000 pounds each. Normal operating temperatures for these engines are 650C so they could not possibly have burned up. This is a photo of a similar sized engine from a McDonnell-Douglas MD-11 which impacted the ocean at a high rate of speed. You can see that the engine remains generally intact.(photo, www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/27/world/main546355. shtml)

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C. When and if the nose of an airplane came in contact with the buildings 14 inch by 14 inch steel box columns and then, 37 feet beyond, the steel box columns of the building core the momentum of the wings would have slowed drastically depriving them of the energy to penetrate the exterior steel box columns. The spars of the wing, which extend outward, could not possibly have penetrated the 14 inch by 14 inch steel box columns placed 39 inches on center and would have crashed to the ground.

D. The argument that the energy of the mass of the Boeing 767 at a speed of 540 mph fails because:

a. No Boeing 767 could attain that speed at 1000 feet

above sea level because of parasite drag which doubles with velocity and parasite power which cubes with velocity.

b. The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept

the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.

E. The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed 39 inches in center, at over 500 mph. This

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fuselage section would be telescopically crumpled had it actually penetrated the building as depicted in the CNN video. It is impossible for it to have then re-emerged from the building and then fallen intact and unburned as depicted.

F. The Purdue video fails because no significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine thereon could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground. The Purdue video misrepresents the construction of the core of the building and depicts unidentified parts of the airplane snapping the core columns which were 12″x36″. The Purdue video also misrepresents what would happen to the tail when the alleged fuselage contacted the core. The tail would instantaneously separate from the empennage (aft fuselage). Further, the Purdue video misrepresents, indeed it fails to show, the wing box or center section of the wing in the collision with the core. The wing box is a very strong unit designed to hold the wings together and is an integral portion of the fuselage. The wing box is designed to help distribute the loads of the wings up-and-down flexing in flight.

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G. My analysis of the alleged cutout made by the Boeing 767 shows that many of the 14-inch exterior steel box columns which are shown as severed horizontally, do not match up with the position of the wings. Further, several of the columns through which the horizontal tail allegedly disappeared are not severed or broken. In addition, the wing tips of the Boeing 767 being of less robust construction than the inner portions of the wings could not possibly have made the cookie-cutter pattern as shown in the aftermath photos. The wing tips would have been stopped by the 14 inch steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

H. The debris of the Boeing 767, as found after the

collapse, was not consistent with actual debris had there really been a

crash. Massive forgings, spars from both the wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers, landing gear retract cylinders, landing gear struts, hydraulic reservoirs and bogeys oxygen bottles, a massive keel beam, bulkheads and the wing box itself cold not possibly have evaporated even in a high intensity fire. The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores weighing approximately 9000 pounds apiece which could not have been hidden. Yet there is no evidence of any of these massive structural components from either 767 at the WTC. Such complete disappearance of 767s is impossible.

III.

9. My opinion, based on extensive flight experience both as captain and instructor in large 3 and 4 engine aircraft is that it would have been impossible for an alleged hijacker with little or no time in the Boeing 767 to have taken over, then flown a Boeing 767 at high speed, descending to below 1000 feet above mean sea level and flown a course to impact the twin towers at high speed for these reasons:

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A. As soon as the alleged hijackers sat in the pilots seat of the Boeing 767 they would be looking at an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) display panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of hard instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in the horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well.

Had they murdered the pilot with a box knife as alleged there would be blood all over the seat, the controls, the center pedestal, the instrument panel and floor of the cockpit. The hijacker would have had to remove the dead pilot from his seat which means he would have had electrically or manually place the seat in its rearmost position and then lifted the murdered pilot from his seat, further distributing blood, making the controls including the throttles wet, sticky and difficult to hold onto.

Even on a clear day a novice pilot would be wholly incapable of taking control and turning a Boeing 767 towards New York because of his total lack of experience and situational awareness under these conditions. The alleged hijackers were not instrument rated and controlled high altitude flight requires experience in constantly referring to and cross-checking attitude, altitude and speed instruments. Using the distant horizon to fly visually under controlled conditions is virtually impossible particularly at the cruising speed of the Boeing 767 of .80 Mach.

The alleged controlled descent into New York on a relatively straight course by a novice pilot in unlikely in the extreme because of the difficulty of controlling heading, descent rate and descent speed within the parameters of controlled flight.

Its takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret the EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrument Display) display, with which none of the hijacker pilots would have been familiar or received training on, and use his controls, including the ailerons, rudder, elevators, spoilers and throttles to effect, control and maintain a descent. The Boeing 767 does not fly itself nor does it automatically correct any misuse of the controls.

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Israels secret relationship with apartheid South Africa -- Balthazar Johannes Vorster, Fri, 25 Jul 2014, 6:03:49 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

On April 9, 1976, South African prime minister Balthazar Johannes Vorster arrived at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem with full diplomatic entourage in tow. After passing solemnly through the corridors commemorating those gassed in Auschwitz and Dachau, he entered the dimly lit Hall of Remembrance, where a memorial flame burned alongside a crypt filled with the ashes of Holocaust victims. Vorster bowed his head as a South African minister read a psalm in Afrikaans, the haunting melody of the Jewish prayer for the dead filling the room. He then kneeled and laid a wreath, containing the colors of the South African flag, in memory of Hitlers victims. Cameras snapped, dignitaries applauded, and Israeli officials quickly ferried the prime minister away to his next destination. Back in Johannesburg, the opposition journalist Benjamin Pogrund was sickened as he watched the spectacle on television. Thousands of South African Jews shared Pogrunds disgust; they knew all too well that Vorster had another, darker past.



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Witness: The end of British rule in India -- India, Wed, 23 Jul 2014, 6:28:14 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

This is a very interesting interview, have a look.




British rule of India ended in 1947 after nearly 100 years.

Until that moment, a small number of Britons administered large swathes of the country and led a privileged life.

Anne Wright was the daughter of a senior official in the Indian Civil Service and grew up during the dying days of British rule.

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The Paper Commonwealth -- BBC Radio 4, Tue, 22 Jul 2014, 4:45:43 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

As the director-elect of the Centre of South Asian Studies, Cambridge, Dr Joya Chatterji explores the remarkable archives at her disposal to find out what they reveal about the tense negotiations to bring India and Pakistan - the first non-white dominions of the British empire - into the Commonwealth. And how the 'old Commonwealth' - Australia, Canada and South Africa -respond to the inclusion of the 'new Commonwealth' into that union. And about the key role played by South Africa in the aftermath of the Boer War - from its white supremacist standpoint - and how it was ultimately brought to heel by the Commonwealth itself.

From the early history of this lasting institution to the plotting of so-called allies, the deep mistrust between India and Pakistan, their zealous attempts to contain mass migration, and prevent the return home of migrants, all produced ingredients that went into the making of the Commonwealth as we know it today. Desperate memos, letters home to relatives and other writings during these times bring the process to life.

Such was the birth of the new Commonwealth in 1947. Today it includes 53 independent countries.
Radio 4 listeners will enjoy the human detail and the horse trading that show that international politics were just a complicated then as they are now. As the news fills with stories from the Glasgow Games, we can stifle a smile in the knowledge that it nearly all didn't happen, while thinking also of the people whose lives were caught up in, and shaped by, its creation.



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Frikkie -- :-)), Tue, 22 Jul 2014, 1:46:13 (CPE-1-122-94-190.wpl9.pie.bigpond.net.au/1.122.94.190)

James Frikkie is slang for condoms, someone must have thought your Headmaster was a dickhead and thus the name Frikkie.


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. -- Ray, Mon, 21 Jul 2014, 17:11:21 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

James,
the Afrikaans spelling is Frederik.
Good Joke: Word went out that everyone who has five children would have their income taxes cut in half. When Willie of Brakpan, who had four children, heard about this, he said to his wife,"I have not told you this, but I have a child with another woman and I am going to Benoni tommorrow to fetch him, and then our taxes will be cut in half."
So he came home with the kid the next day but everything seemed quiet. "Where are my children?" he asked his wife.
"Oh, their fathers heard about it too and came to fetch them."


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Frik -- James, Thu, 17 Jul 2014, 23:14:54 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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Terry K.
Many thanks for the info re Frik (Frikkie). I think my wee head master was a Mr. Bardell - Lusaka Boys' School circa 1947+. He was a handy chap with the cane; caning was de rigueur punishment if you were caught not wearing a hat outdoors.
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FRIKKIE -- TerryK, Thu, 17 Jul 2014, 7:06:24 (host86-173-97-149.range86-173.btcentralplus.com/86.173.97.149)

James - hand up for an answer !!!

The Frik in my life was actually a Frederick. Check nicely -
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_(given_name)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_(given_name)</a>

Best example must be one Frik du Preez even though he was a Blue Bull. Nice man even if he did do a lot of damage to my beloved WP on several occasions.

Safe my Mates - TerryK


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Jimbo's passing... -- James, Thu, 17 Jul 2014, 3:06:13 (CPE788df7ed2a63-CM788df7ed2a60.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.225.174.197)

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RAY: I was distressed to learn of Jimmbo Buchanan's passing; he was a Mensch.

Does the word 'Frikkie' actually mean anything in Afrikaans? I had a diminutive headmaster in NR ('n Engelsman) whose nickname was Frikkie. I have often wondered why he was thus named.
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. -- ., Wed, 16 Jul 2014, 20:24:47 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Madam Caillaux wife of a French Politician in 1914 shot and killed a newspaper editor for publishing nasty things about her husband. The jury acquitted her based upon that she was not able to control her emotions and passions because she was a woman.


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1914: Day by Day - Omnibus Episode 1 of 6 -- Margaret Macmillan, Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 7:08:49 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Episode 1
1914: Day by Day, 1914: Day by Day - Omnibus Episode 1 of 6

First broadcast:Sunday 06 July 2014Margaret Macmillan chronicles the events leading up to the First World War. Each episode draws together newspaper accounts, diplomatic correspondence and private journals from the same day exactly one hundred years ago, giving a picture of the world in 1914 as it was experienced at the time.

The series tracks the development of the European crisis day by day, from the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand through to the first week of the conflict. As well as the war, it gives an insight into the wider context of the world in 1914 including the threat of civil war in Ireland, the sensational trial of Madame Caillaux in France and the suffragettes' increasingly violent campaign for votes for women.

Margaret Macmillan is professor of international history at Oxford University.

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Duration: 28 minutes

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. -- ., Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 5:52:17 (mobile-166-137-210-048.mycingular.net/166.137.210.48)

So God does not exist? If thats what you think, I feel very sorry for you. I also thank God for letting me know people like you because it makes me see what the ordinary materialist is like.


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Ray Hollyweird -- scripsi (disgust), Sun, 13 Jul 2014, 4:15:59 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

It's OK to speak TO God. But if He ABSWERS, you need
to consult a competent doctor who will then refer you to
the relevant specialist.

Ray (really weird) speaks:
"Jimbo, the answer is through a mutual friend.
The mutual friend is God.
Does that answer your question?"


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Mentally ill shackled and neglected in Africas crisis regions -- PBS NEWSHOUR, Sat, 12 Jul 2014, 6:23:45 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Robin Hammond has photographed strife in Africa for a dozen years, from life in Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe to the use of rape as a weapon of war in the Congo. The Paris-based photographer doesnt shy away from difficult stories.

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peace -- Ray, Thu, 10 Jul 2014, 23:31:53 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Jimbo, the answer is through a mutual friend.
The mutual friend is God.
Does that answer your question?


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. -- ., Thu, 10 Jul 2014, 16:21:12 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

A Ladies salon in Munich is having a special on Brazilians this week.
Seven parts bare and one part hair.


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. -- ., Thu, 10 Jul 2014, 15:45:06 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

What is the difference between the Brazil soccer team and a tea bag?
The tea bag stays in the cup longer.

What is the difference between the Brazil team and the Bermuda Triangle?
The Bermuda Triangle has three points.

Why are German soccer players good at math?
They can use their heads.

What is the difference between the Brazil soccer team and an Albatross?
The Albatross has two good wings.

A Dutch soccer fan met a fairy who could grant one wish. He asked her to make him live forever. She said that wish is not in her power to grant. Ask another one. He then asked her if he could live long enough to see the Dutch team win the World cup. Replied she: "You sneaky bastard."

What tax deduction did the tax collector disallow for the Brazilian Soccer team?
The silver polish purchases.


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Ray -- Jimbo, Thu, 10 Jul 2014, 2:27:48 (CPE-60-230-203-120.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au/60.230.203.120)

How do you know that I am at peace now ???


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Jim Buchanan -- Roger, Mon, 07 Jul 2014, 21:46:37 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)

Tributes to Jim.

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Pitiful Hank. -- Ray, Mon, 07 Jul 2014, 15:19:47 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hank, There are things in Heaven and Earth that would take you at least another ten of your future lifetimes to become aware of. Just because you think you are just a bunch of chemicals with no eternal Soul, poor fish, does not change the truth.
The lowest a person can possibly go is to think he is just a bunch of chemicals and nothing else is the lowest that person can go and that is you, not me, sorry.

"Jimbo" is fine, happy and at peace and he had a wonderful life.


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Listen live worldwide - FREE APP -- tunein.com, Sun, 06 Jul 2014, 7:53:38 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Listen live worldwide - FREE APP

listen to radio station from all over the world on your smart phone. tunein.com is a free app which gives you access to thousands of station from all over the world


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RayHollyweird -- scripsi (disgust), Thu, 03 Jul 2014, 5:00:56 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)

Hey, Schelp, can you sink any lower than this?
Jimbo just told me, "Ray I NOW know you tried very hard to save my life with your cure but I did not listen, but thank you anyway." I told him: thank you for the gorgeous Flame lily bulbs you sent me, they were a joy to me. We departed in peace. He appeared to me as he was at 30, there is no old age in Heaven. He wishes his wife through me (I have no comms with her I have no choice but to put this here), to know that she is, was and forever will be the love of his life.


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jimbo -- dawie, Tue, 01 Jul 2014, 14:22:28 (16.91.telone.co.zw/197.221.243.91)

they say it takes a death to get people back together sad news on jimbo he was a give it all took chances and won in his life gone to the great press in the sky or behind the black stump he would have said. dawie we had an ale for him at old Harare sports friday


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. -- ., Mon, 30 Jun 2014, 18:23:44 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Jimbo just told me, "Ray I NOW know you tried very hard to save my life with your cure but I did not listen, but thank you anyway." I told him: thank you for the gorgeous Flame lily bulbs you sent me, they were a joy to me. We departed in peace. He appeared to me as he was at 30, there is no old age in Heaven. He wishes his wife through me (I have no comms with her I have no choice but to put this here), to know that she is, was and forever will be the love of his life.


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VALE -- TerryK, Mon, 30 Jun 2014, 9:21:34 (host86-173-97-149.range86-173.btcentralplus.com/86.173.97.149)

Jo Pete - did an additional genuflect for you in front of #46 The Doctor. Sadly not a good meeting for him - got it all wrong in qualifying and even worse with bike / tyre changes during the race. Weather was fickle throughout the weekend and appalling during the race. Met a guy from PMB who claims Ophie is still there. I thought that he and Clive had moved to Aus. Hope to re-establish coms.

On the positive side I saved nearly 200 on duty free wine at Calais.

Safe my Mates.


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South African diplomat in slavery row 
departs Ireland -- "slave labour" wages of just 1.66-an-hour, Mon, 30 Jun 2014, 6:52:37 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

The woman came to Dublin from Pretoria with Ms Dlamini and her family when they moved here in 2012. She looked after the diplomat's three children and worked as her housekeeper in her private residence.

She was employed directly by Ms Dlamini and was not working for the South African Embassy.

Ms Dlamini firmly denied the servant had been forced to work the hours complained of. She would not confirm the wages paid, but insisted they were greater than the servant had earned in her native South Africa.

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Jim Buchanan -- Jo Pete, Sat, 28 Jun 2014, 10:25:26 (ti-225-60-67.telkomadsl.co.za/105.225.60.67)

Yo BT. Had a nemail from Benda Buchanan.Jimbo's widow. He was driving home from an orchid show when he had a heart attack. Pulled over to the kerb and put on his hazzards. When he didn't arrive home his orchad mates went looking for him. Found him slumped over the steering wheel,called an ambulance but he could not be revived. We were notified via a message on FB. It was posted at about 5pm, 1500GMT, on 27th. I would guess that he died about 18oo local time.


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Jim Buchanan -- Roger, Sat, 28 Jun 2014, 8:23:04 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)

Sorry, That would have been Mardon Printers Ltd.


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Jimbo -- Roger, Sat, 28 Jun 2014, 8:10:00 (125-238-117-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz/125.238.117.52)

Thanks for posting the sad news Jo-Pete, I had a look for any more information on the Victoria funeral listings but have so far drawn a blank, they must have not wanted that.
Dawie will be pretty cut up as I think he was Jimbo's appy at Haylett-Gibbs. I am gonna have a beer for his memory right now.
R.I.P.


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So is Silicon Valley ageist? -- BBC Assignment, Sat, 28 Jun 2014, 6:01:09 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Over the Hill in Silicon Valley

Silicon Valley is the global hub for e-commerce and for much of the world's technological innovation. You might also call it the world's most successful micro-climate of free enterprise: investors in California's Bay Area seem to have a special knack for picking winners - from Microsoft and Apple to Facebook and Google.

Yet rumblings are afoot, as critics point to a growing obsession with youth. To be successful, they say, you need to be fresh out of a college engineering degree, and a total workaholic. Those over 30 need not apply. So is Silicon Valley ageist?

For Assignment, the no longer totally youthful, Ed Butler has been to California to find out.

BBC Assignment

Duration: 25 minutes
First broadcast Thursday 26 June 2014


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Month of Madness -- First World War, Sat, 28 Jun 2014, 5:52:31 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Professor Christopher Clark unpicks the complex sequence of events during the July Crisis, leading to outbreak of the First World War, from the perspective of the key centres of decision-making.

As events unfolded in July 1914, all eyes were on the British and how they would react. In the final programme of his series, Professor Christopher Clark analyses British decision-making during the July Crisis.

At the centre of the events in London was the Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey. Of all the politicians who walked the European political stage in 1914, he was the most baffling. Professor Clark shows how the last-minute British decision to enter the war on the side of France and Russia, and to declare war on Germany, was a decision of world-historical import that transformed a local conflict into a global struggle.

Christopher Clark is Professor of Modern History at the University of Cambridge and a Fellow of St Catharine's College. He is the author of Kaiser Wilhelm II, Iron Kingdom and - most recently - of the highly acclaimed and award-winning The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went To War in 1914.

Producer: Melissa FitzGerald

London
Episode 5 of 5

Duration: 15 minutes
First broadcast:Friday 27 June 2014

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Jim Buchanan -- Glen, Fri, 27 Jun 2014, 22:50:01 (CPE-58-174-182-91.oycz1.fli.bigpond.net.au/58.174.182.91)

That would be 3 pm Australian time


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Jim Buchanan -- Glen, Fri, 27 Jun 2014, 22:46:50 (CPE-58-174-182-91.oycz1.fli.bigpond.net.au/58.174.182.91)

Geez, devastated to hear that Jo Pete..
What time did that happen as I received some emails from him at around 3 pm yesterday (27th)?


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Jim Buchanan -- Jo Pete (Devastated), Fri, 27 Jun 2014, 16:13:47 (ti-225-60-67.telkomadsl.co.za/105.225.60.67)

Yo BT. It is with such a heavy heart and with great sadness that I report the death of Jim Buchanan,a founder member of this forum. He lived in Geelong,Australia,and died today of a massive heart attack.


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Assen. -- Jo Pete, Thu, 26 Jun 2014, 12:44:54 (ti-225-60-67.telkomadsl.co.za/105.225.60.67)

Yo BT. Hi TerryK. I will be glued to TV Saturday watching the Dutch TT. Rossi still awesaome but Marques is walking away with the championship. He may even emulate Rossi,the only rider to surpass the great Mick Doohan.


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The agri-chemical company Syngenta -- Farming Today, Thu, 26 Jun 2014, 6:07:52 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Neonicotinoid Ban, Groceries Code Adjudicator Conference, Agricultural Journalism


The agri-chemical company Syngenta has applied to Defra for a derogation on the EU ban on neonicotinoids so British farmers can plant seeds treated with the insecticide this autumn. Without it they warn next year's crop of oilseed rape could fail. Environmental campaigners say the request is "outrageous" and the ban is in place to protect pollinators.
It comes as a group of international scientists publish a review of 800 scientific papers looking at the impact of neonicotinoids, the most widely used agri-chemical in the world. It claims they are damaging a wide range of invertebrates, such as earthworms, bees and butterflies; the effects of which could spread up the food chain to birds and reptiles. The analysis, known as the Worldwide Integrated Assessment, recommends tighter regulation and a dramatic reduction in global use - if not the total phasing out of neonicotinoids.
Anna Hill chairs a discussion between Guy Smith, vice president of the NFU and Nick Mole from Pesticide Action Network, a group that campaigns to reduce pesticide use.
Anna also meets Michael Pollitt, outgoing agricultural editor at the Eastern Daily Press. Covering his 30th Royal Norfolk Show, he shares his thoughts on how the image of farming has changed over four decades in journalism.
And the Groceries Code Adjudicator Christine Tacon on the success of her first annual conference.
Presented by Anna Hill and produced in Bristol by Anna Jones. Show less

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The Cartoon Museum -- BBC Radio 4, Thu, 26 Jun 2014, 5:44:09 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Twelve cartoonists and graphic artists respond to world events in the lead-up to war one hundred years ago.

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. -- Ray, Wed, 25 Jun 2014, 21:52:32 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Good James so that strange rolling R I hear is not typical, that will help me in singing the words, strangely enough we have Afrikaans speaking people in the Cape of Huguenot descend that speak Afrikaans with that heavy rolling R, so I don't think it is necessarily of foreign influence, we used to say this person "Brei"s when he speaks, the word normally means "knit", the R being pronounced in the very back roof of the mouth, making it identical with the Afrikaans G.
So a person who "brei"s in Afrikaans is a person who replaces his r's with g's when he speaks. So actually believe it or not, I am quite familiar with that rolling R and can actually reproduce it I can actually come close to Piaf on the word ferais....


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Piaf... -- James., Wed, 25 Jun 2014, 0:15:34 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.116.163.134)

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Hello Ray,
Piaf will indeed be a challenge. She has a very strange rolling R which I assume comes from her stage work. (In English I hear English-speaking tenors singing 'keeng' for 'king').
Piafs Mother had, I think, Italian and Berber blood in her so her accent (in French) was probably odd and Piaf picked it up.
I recall hearing a black chap in the Copperbelt singing a Jimmie Rodgers song. Hed learned it from a record, but his pronunciation was most original - I think Jimmies Southern accent beat him!
I think you need to get hold of a native French speaker and get advice on the pronunciation. I can read French, but Im told que je parle la langue come une vache Espangnol! I can follow spoken French fairly well, but have a hell of a time with the comic Fernandel and, naturally, with the French-Canadian accent!
Of course it is sien for see in Afrikaans Biggest challenge I had was with Ou Tante Koba - there are obviously several versions and I was getting very mixed up.


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. -- Ray, Mon, 23 Jun 2014, 16:35:37 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

If the sun should tumble from the skies if the sea should suddenly run dry
If you love me really love me, whatever happens I won't care
If it seems that everything is lost I will smile and never count the cost
If you love me really love me whatever happens I won't care

Shall I catch a shooting star, shall I bring it where you are if you want me to I will
You can set me any task I'll do anything you ask if you only say you love me still

When at last our life on earth is through I will share eternity with you
If you love me really love me whatev'r happens I won't care
If you love me really love me whatev'r I won't care

Songwriters
Piaf, Edith / Parsons, Geoffrey / Monnot, Marguerite

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. -- Ray, Mon, 23 Jun 2014, 16:26:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Good Morning, to all, the USA Portugal world cup soccer game was most stunning we were all starting to jump up to celebrate the victory of the USA I think it was 5 seconds off when Portugal scored to draw. Holy cow!

James the words are
"En sen my pa en sen my ma," which is bless my mother and bless my father. "Seen" is English, in Afrikaans it would be
Sien. Ek sien my ma en sien my pa. In past tense it would be ek het my ma gesien, or I saw my mother.

James, question. I have become the member of a Ukelele club and sometimes I perform for the club. I have taken a fancy to the song "If You Love Me Really Love me." Written by Edith Piaf as "Hymne A L'Amour" it was originally in French so I would like to sing a verse in French. But I am frustrated, I have the French words in front of me but when I hear Piaf sing the song(It is on Youtube) what she sings and pronounces and the actual written French words seem worlds apart, it is hard to believe that they are the same words. for example the words "on peut bien" sound to me like "oh goodya" on the text to speech program website at
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://imtranslator.net/translate-and-speak/speak/french/">http://imtranslator.net/translate-and-speak/speak/french/</a>

How do you get from the text "on peut bien" to the sound "ohgoodya" is a mystery to me..

By the way the story of the song is most dramatic. Piaf- abandoned by her parents grew up on the streets of Paris but became one of the most beloved singers of France. According to her biography, the love of her life was the married French boxer Marcel Cerdan. While performing in New York around 1949 she wrote the song and performed it. Marcel Cedan was on his way to New York to visit her and she could hardly wait to sing the song to him. She went to the airport but the plane never arrived. It crashed in the Azores killing him. She recorded the song both as Hymn A L'Amour and "If you Love me Really love me" three months later early 1950. Sung by American singers, the latter song became a smash hit in the USA in the fifties. There is a You tube version of Humperdinck singing it on "Love Boat" TV series but I think he renders it shallow, my favorite version is the You Tube Vera Lynn recording.


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Moving to London? -- Need an address?, Mon, 23 Jun 2014, 6:48:38 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

If you are planning to move to the UK, it is handy to have a UK address before you move.

I have a box and they provide a mail-forwarding service.


Mail Boxes Etc.

London - South Kensington

t: 020 7581 2825

f: 020 7581 4851

mail@mbe-uk.com

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London - South Kensington
28 Old Brompton Road
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(Just across from South Kensington Tube Station)

London
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Seen? and sen? -- James, Mon, 23 Jun 2014, 3:10:52 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.116.163.134)


Ray:
Second attempt at this the machine ate the first. I think I was mixing up seen (see) in the Roux song with sen (bless) Is it correct to say, Ek seen hom (I see him) and in the past tense, Ek het hom geseen ?)
Just read that the juggler/comic W. C. Fields was in S. Africa following the Boer War. Vendors were selling photos of De Wet in sealed envelopes. Fields said he bought one but when he opened the envelope there was no photo. The vendor said something to the effect, The bugger must have escaped again!


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Ya well ek se -- TerryK, Sun, 22 Jun 2014, 9:34:52 (host109-150-18-113.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.18.113)

Jo Pete - good to see you post a message - thought you had dropped off the edge of this Australian TV advertising site.

I know you are a fan so just to let you know - we are off on a pilgrimage on Wednesday to the Dutch TT at Assen to worship at the feet of the great Valentino Rossi. What a season he is having. We will be kitted out with bright yellow T shirts featuring "#46", "The Doctor" et al for the occasion.

Those passions born on the streets of Gwelo just don't go away !!! I shall do a little grovel on your behalf. Morag - are you checking nicely ???

Safe my Mates
TerryK


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Places in London that tell a story of World War One -- World War One At Home, Sat, 21 Jun 2014, 2:39:04 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

07:29Regents Park, London: The Post Office Home Depot
World War One At Home
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04:45Royal Liberty School, London: Romfords Artist Rifles
World War One At Home
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06:32Wandsworth, London: Masks for Facial Disfigurement
World War One At Home
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06:57Aldwych, London: Home Away From Home for US Troops
World War One At Home

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. -- Ray, Thu, 19 Jun 2014, 15:51:50 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hope he fixed his bakkie door window by now..


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dAWIE -- Jo Pete, Thu, 19 Jun 2014, 11:56:59 (ti-227-205-71.telkomadsl.co.za/105.227.205.71)

Yo BT. Dawie & Mrs Dawie pulled in yesterday. They live a rather Bohemian life now but spend most of their time in Harare. Dawie is in and out of Zim every couple of weeks or so.


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Bless My Uncle on his Fram in Africa -- Raymond Schep, Wed, 18 Jun 2014, 21:34:47 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

James it actually is a very wistful nostalgic even sad song.
The song writer is singer Laurika Rauche's husband, I am unable to get any background on it, but it probably is related to events of the songwriters relatives. He writes my uncle used to visit he was old and I was scarce thirteen, and drank his coffee with one eye closed, and they talked about the try scored by Roux. He filled his tractor with diesel but he struggled on the farm the sun was hot and the rain scarce and the man from the bank came and just shook his head.
If you now walk the lands you can still hear the klak klak klak of the motor but now both the eyes of the uncle are shut. The refrain is bless my ma and bless my pa and my uncle on his farm in Africa, and send greetings to Mannetjies Roux.


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The lady with the squawking and annoying parrot,,, -- James, Wed, 18 Jun 2014, 2:35:31 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.116.163.134)

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I really prefer the version sung by the lady with the squawking and annoying parrot in the site below. I think she is very dishy and has a wonderful smile. From the garden and house, it seems to me she may now live in the US.

It's a smashing tune, but the words are odd at times...
What has diesel to do with things, and why does she mention she is barely 13?

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Only now are many Germans starting to engage with the memory of the war -- Frank Drauschke, Tue, 17 Jun 2014, 5:25:06 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

On a chilly day in January, elderly Berliners showed up in their hundreds at the state library on Potsdamer Platz. Inside, they peeled off their winter coats and unpacked their private treasures. A bulging green album of silvery propaganda postcards; a letter opener with a mangled shrapnel handle; a tortoise shell minus the tortoise.

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. -- ., Mon, 16 Jun 2014, 15:10:37 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

James, that will get both the eyes open of My Oom in Afrika.


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Mannetjies Roux - ROCK version! -- James, Sat, 14 Jun 2014, 19:12:08 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.116.163.134)

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Mannetjies Roux - ROCK version!

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Ray Hollywolly -- gsdfa (:(), Sat, 14 Jun 2014, 4:25:26 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)

Tipparious far-as? Jokusus?
Funniously goodus -- HAHAHAHAHA
Ray-ass, morus jocularus moronicus.


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Britain at Sea -- Lord West, Fri, 13 Jun 2014, 3:34:32 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Whitehall Warriors

Lord West explains how Britain, and the Royal Navy, adjusted to dramatically straitened circumstances after the Second World War.

He describes the dramatic social changes that began after 1945, including big pay rises, improved food and conditions of service - and even the beginning of the end for hammocks.

He explores the Royal Navy's crucial role in the development of nuclear weapons, and the impact they had on defence thinking and the future of conventional forces. And he speaks to Laura Sandys MP, the daughter of former Defence Secretary Duncan Sandys, about his seminal 1957 Defence White Paper, which shaped British defence thinking for a generation.

Duration: 15 minutes

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. -- Ray, Tue, 10 Jun 2014, 15:42:46 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Is it a long way from Tipperary?


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Ad -- Tom (:(), Mon, 09 Jun 2014, 15:20:42 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)

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Riverrun Cottages Terryglass, Co. Tipperary -- Tom, Sat, 07 Jun 2014, 5:42:16 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

Family Gathering

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RUGBY - FINAL WHISTLE -- TerryK, Fri, 06 Jun 2014, 8:48:23 (host109-150-18-113.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.18.113)

Carl - thanks but I don't think your cure will work for me. Sadly, if you see it that way, pints of beer have always fuelled my rugby interests. Nothing nicer than a pint or two at Forries before Newlands or up and down the streets of Cardiff before the Millenium Stadium. Such astute observations are made and such wise words get spoken !!!

Ray - not a Bulls supporter but many hopeful visits to and sad losses at Loftus as a WP supporter back in the 60's. I do retain fond memories of Oom Frik and Thys Lourens but not that Naasty little blonde git who used to kick us out of the game. However he is not a bad commenter on SATV these days.

Safe my Mates


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Britain at Sea -- Admiral Lord West, Thu, 05 Jun 2014, 5:36:06 (59-100-206-178.syd.static-ipl.aapt.com.au/59.100.206.178)

There are many excellent books on the Royal Navy, but three general volumes have been particularly helpful in making this series.

Ben Wilson's "Empire of the Deep" is wonderfully written, covering hundreds of years of naval history with little apparent effort.

For more detailed analysis of the period since the Napoleonic wars, "The Royal Navy since 1815" by Eric Grove is short and accessible, while for a much more detailed analysis of the twentieth century, including the political debate around the Navy, Professor Grove's "Vanguard to Trident" is invaluable.

The Royal Navy thrives on history: it is a vital part of how the Navy understands itself. And one book which has been omnipresent through the making of this series is "The Royal Navy Day by Day" by Lawrie Phillips.


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Jokes For Smart People Only -- ., Thu, 05 Jun 2014, 0:21:36 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Three violin manufactures have all done business for years on the same block in the small town of Cremona, Italy. After years of peaceful co-existence, the Amati family decided to put a sign in their shop window saying: We make the best violins in Italy. The Guarneri family soon put a sign in their window proclaiming: We make the best violins in the world. Finally, the Stradivarius family posted this sign outside their shop: We make the best violins on the block.


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Jokes for Smart People only. -- ., Thu, 05 Jun 2014, 0:17:49 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Jean-Paul Sartre is at home,revising his draft on Being and Nothingness. His wife asks him to bring her a cup of coffee, please, with no cream.

Jean-Paul, without looking up from his manuscript, says Im sorry, dear, but were out of cream. How about with no milk?

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. -- Ray, Tue, 03 Jun 2014, 1:19:58 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

TerryK if you want to be cured of rugby support the Blue Bulls.
One moment they cream the Brumbies, the next moment they lose to a team that was relegated from Super Rugby last year. What horror.


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Rugby -- Carl schmidt, Mon, 02 Jun 2014, 12:52:39 (41-132-171-200.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.132.171.200)

Terry, whilst still at junior school one winter we had a school rugby match with a touring team from Bethlehem in the Freestate. They refused to play us with our boots on, as they never had any boots, so needless to say we had to play without boots. Firstly, it was danm cold and secondly they ran ten colours of crap out of us and you can imagine what the score was. I forget now what it was, but can assure you it was like a cricket score. That is what cured me from rugby for life and I turned to hockey and made that my preferred sport. Futher more at one stage there was not a match that I missed a Loftus, as the company that I worked for had a Suite there and I had to be barman. You can imagine sitting and listerning to all these drunk bums, as well as putting up with their crap, whilst I had to stay sober. I assure you it was not fun. The latter is what was the final decision to totally abandon all rugby.


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MORE RUGBY -- TerryK, Sun, 01 Jun 2014, 10:06:07 (host109-150-18-113.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.18.113)

Come on Carl - I need help - please.

Sarries got motored by Northampton in extra time in the Pomeranian Premiership Final at Twickenham yesterday. So sad.


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RUGBY -- TerryK, Thu, 29 May 2014, 8:12:13 (host109-150-18-113.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.18.113)

Hi Carl - details of your cure please.

Ruby continuously breaks my heart. They don't even have to loose the game - they just have to appoint yet another incompetent manager or pick the wrong player !!!

Come to think of it - does your cure work for cricket as well. Can't see a single SA player in the bi-centenary cricket match at Lords where an MCC Invitation side will play the Rest of the World !!! Pietersen in in - now I wonder what he is classified as - probably does not know himself but I do hope he hits a ton.

Safe my Mates


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Ray -- Carl Schmidt, Tue, 27 May 2014, 15:06:52 (41-135-177-242.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.177.242)

Ray, nothing. I've been cured from rugby since prior to 1975.


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. -- Ray, Tue, 27 May 2014, 14:55:23 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Jislaaik Carl!
What did you tell those Bulls??


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Prituox9 -- Prituox2 (Grrrr...), Sun, 25 May 2014, 4:36:58 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

Hey,man, why don't you post in English?
Did you mean if the shoe doesn't pinch,
wear the thing?


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Footywarus -- Prituox9 (...), Fri, 23 May 2014, 16:15:11 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

shoo-us futous nonpinchus? putiton.com!


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Ghost Town -- Carl Schmidt, Wed, 21 May 2014, 6:15:20 (41-135-30-136.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.30.136)

If the shoe fits Ray, wear it.


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. -- Ray, Tue, 20 May 2014, 15:36:57 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hi Carl. If you want to make a contribution, then go to Loftus on Saturday and yell at those Bulls to wake up.
Skreeu "Skrik Wakker Floubulle! That would be nice.


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Ghost Town -- Carl Schmidt, Tue, 20 May 2014, 6:37:04 (41-135-30-136.dsl.mweb.co.za/41.135.30.136)

There are a few guys on the BT that not only think that they run it, but also think that they own it. They shall remain nameless, as we all know who they are.


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. -- Raymond (Schep), Mon, 19 May 2014, 15:47:50 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Morag, understand you are in San Diego area, did you keep out of those horrendous fires?
If you want some creams and lotions to soothe those burns just let me know. I checked my e-mail and only have your produce address. Dont think you have that anymore. Last email I have with your name in it was some Antis correspondence. Morag, I am not running the website, just trying to keep it alive with a posting or two every couple of weeks or so.
There is a saying "If you cannot say anything nice then rather say nothing at all." I can't help it if Hank somehow has gotten mixed up and taken it as "If you it all can say something not nice then do it right away." It is clear that these anonymous posts are Hank it has his personality written all over them. And why Hank has this vitriol against James I don't know. James can hardly post a single post without streams of invective from Hank. Or maybe it is just the Scottish way of communications and brotherhood. Who knows.


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Rhodesia Stamp Sheets wanted will pay good money -- Shane Wheeler, Sun, 18 May 2014, 5:18:27 (203-59-226-40.perm.iinet.net.au/203.59.226.40)

Hi l am after complete sheets of 50 Rhodesia Stamps in mint condition.................
Does anyone have ... no point keeping in suitcase get them out and l will pay good prices from 1 sheet to 100 sheets
l only want sheets up to 1977
At the moment l have over 5000 sheets and l will be putting on a site soon

email me
shanewheeler@msn.com
Look forward to anyone that may have them
Shane


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Ghost Town -- Morag (sad, very sad), Sat, 17 May 2014, 15:53:55 (99-38-109-145.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net/99.38.109.145)

Makes me so sad to come back here to find most people have gone. This used to be such a welcoming place. I think more people would post if the remaining people were less critical or even on some occasions less hostile. Hank has just as much right to be here to voice his opinions and share his news. Ray and James you seem to run this site - how about becoming more welcoming and let everyone come back? There was a time when we all pulled together to help one another and Ray, you were outstanding. I also remember when you were kind enough to send samples of your lotion to some of us. It was a super lotion too. Come on Ray and James, particularly James, show some kindness and respect. Dont forget we treat people the way we feel about ourselves!


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. -- . (.), Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:15:03 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Caster Semenya has more cojones than you.


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Ray's wanabe -- Prituox5 (LOL!), Sat, 10 May 2014, 3:50:25 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)

Hey, James, lost your tongue? Bravado dissolved? No ballS?


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JAMES -- Prituox3 (....), Thu, 08 May 2014, 3:38:10 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

Hey, James, before you can become a South African you have to
become a man. With cojones.


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. -- ., Tue, 06 May 2014, 19:05:09 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

An elderly couple had just learned how to send text messages on their mobile phones.
The wife was a romantic type but the husband was more of a no-nonsense fellow.
One afternoon the wife went out to meet a friend for lunch.
She decided to send her husband a romantic text message and she wrote:
If you are sleeping, send me your dreams.
If you are laughing, send me your smile.
If you are eating, send me a bite.
If you are drinking, send me a sip.
If you are crying, send me your tears.
I love you."

The husband texted back to her: "I'm on the toilet. Please advise."


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JAMES -- Prituox8 (Ugh), Tue, 06 May 2014, 3:34:30 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

Hey, James, you poor Scootlimd reject, PISS OFF.
And no, I'm not your nemesis Hank, whoever he might be.


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James -- FU2, Sun, 04 May 2014, 12:10:16 (CPE-60-230-196-180.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au/60.230.196.180)

James you wee shite, you are not Southern African, just because your "own" don't want you, neither do we, Piss Off.


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Everybody loves you! -- James, Fri, 02 May 2014, 3:04:57 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.116.163.134)

Hello wee Hank. Welcome back. We have all missed you and your delightful postings. Never forget that everybody loves you, so never feel insecure or not wanted. How's the inn doing?


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. -- Ray, Thu, 01 May 2014, 15:49:06 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

By The way the Giant Eagle Owl you get by scanning every large Kameeldoring tree you pass until you encounter one.
Or just ask the Meerkats, they'll quickly point one out!


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. -- Ray, Thu, 01 May 2014, 15:39:41 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Hi TerryK the best place for larks are at waterholes or windmill dams. A Pity. Kgalagadi park was great for me, saw two cheetahs but a lovely sight was about 6 secretary birds marching in a line side by side clearing the veld of snakes and rodents. Got the Giant Eagle owl as a lifer but an extensive search for Pygmy Falcon went unrewarded. The larks are much more active and visible in springtime.


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CRUISING SA -- TerryK, Wed, 30 Apr 2014, 18:45:00 (ti-228-46-243.telkomadsl.co.za/105.228.46.243)

Mmmm - good to see a bit of a recovery on the site - keep posting guys.

Ray and Jo Pete - further to our coms a few months ago I have closed out a couple of issues. We have just completed a big 3400 km loop via Infanta, Augrabies, Upington and the Kgalagadi (mostly based at !Xaus Lodge).

Kgalagadi - Ray - the gemsbok, wildebeast etc were good but there was a disappointing lack of cats. The birds however kept the interest up - however no raptors bigger than a pale chanting goshawk. We did get several close ups of kori bustards - my first. Interesting to get a 2 degC ice warning as we left !!!

Augrabies was fairly full and spectacular but the game drives were not all that good - apart from the birds again.

Great relax at the Upington Riverside Mansion and then - Jo Pete - a bomb down your R27 - made good time in the Freelander but nothing like your Audi trips. No larks spotted to report to Ray.

Greatest disappointment was the little Karoo towns like Victoria West. By all appearances there is no effective town council (nominally ANC)and the place is wasting away. Rubbish everywhere and the locals appear to be living without hope - so different to the little dorps which are booming in the Cape and along the R62.

One daughter plus husband and "off roadised" twin cab Toyota Hilux travelled the northern Cape part of the trip with us. They have now gone to Africa Burns - a happening in the Tankwa Karoo - worth Googling if you like that kind of thing. SA is moving on in some ways.

There you go - chasing the summer back to the UK in the middle of May.

Safe my Mates
TerryK


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Uganda -- asasa, Wed, 30 Apr 2014, 4:17:08 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)

Irish aid money given to Uganda stolen from Prime Minister's office

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. -- Ray, Mon, 28 Apr 2014, 15:10:23 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

I see even old Hank is still here, posting under his customary nom de plume. A strange way he has of communicating, but nevertheless God's love is also forthcoming to him.
I do not like facebook. I only go there to see who has remembered my April birthday(some did) and to thank them.

Johnnyb, on the subject of birds, it is very interesting to learn that the birds of Southern Asia are very similar to that of Africa, by means of the land connection of Arabia and southern Asia. As a result, plovers,swallows,larks, thrushes, cisticolas, sunbirds, and some raptors have made their way to Australia. The crow family has done an amazing evolution is Australia resulting in lyrebirds, and birds of paradise. And of course the parrots, they have evolved spectacularly. I am glad these birds make you feel at home!


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Freedom of choice -- JohnnyB (Stubborn old buggers), Sun, 27 Apr 2014, 16:47:45 (CPE-1-123-165-102.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/1.123.165.102)

I guess it is a lonely site now as everyone has progressed into Face Book and the like. It's a bit like looking up an old friend who has now found a different lifestyle. Even I have to spend more time to check out the gossip on different blogs and websites.


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JohnnyB -- BillyC (...), Fri, 25 Apr 2014, 15:07:00 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)

Hollywood Ray, the self-aggrandizing puffed up little man and his sycophantic wannabe, James (has the roof for the hovel in Scootlnd been approved, James?), are the reasons people were happy to flee to another site for posting.


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Health, wealth and happiness -- JohnnyB (Glad), Thu, 24 Apr 2014, 15:57:22 (CPE-1-123-165-102.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/1.123.165.102)

I am glad I did look in again Barbara ! Normally I just browse the comments when something happens (Kariba wall cracking up etc.) But it is good to know you're still vigilant, never let anything go by !

Ray, B/Pete, Terry, Jimbo and many others I am sure you guys haven't fallen off the tracks yet !!

Have finally bought an Australian Bird book now as I'm convinced there are too many similar birds to the old homeland here. There are a few Velcro crested Hoofu gobblers here too !


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JohnnyB -- Barbara (Goss), Wed, 23 Apr 2014, 21:07:18 (CPE-124-191-155-33.iqla1.woo.bigpond.net.au/124.191.155.33)

Thanks JohnnyB - I too miss the friendly banter we used to have here, and the friends we made here.....


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WASTED SPACE -- JohnnyB (pissed off), Mon, 21 Apr 2014, 17:30:08 (CPE-1-123-165-102.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/1.123.165.102)

I wish the irrelevant half wit posting their music rubbish could be taken off, this is the main reason for not checking out the BT site. Thanks forum manager. In advance !


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Barbara Goss -- JohnnyB (Old friends), Mon, 21 Apr 2014, 16:52:40 (CPE-1-123-165-102.sml9.way.bigpond.net.au/1.123.165.102)

Well it has been a long deviation from the BT but I guess we all have an eternal interest of the land we were born and come back once in a while. I was most grateful for SW radio putting Barbara on air today to let us know who our unsung hero was for so many years and made cyberspace home away from home. Please take time to hear the 13 minute interview.

I have followed this site since 1996 and it is was so full of friends who I think have slowly dwindled through the ages, I pay my respects to all those who have posted so much and have slowly faded into the sunset. I read here of another great BT'rs passing - Savage. My condolences to families and friends. I remember when pictures were posted on this forum, long before Face Book was conceived.
It was good enough just to receive the words, jokes and banter of fellow countrymen.

I say thank you to those who still run the sites and keep "The Zimbabwe situation" updated.Your efforts are well appreciated by many in NZ, Australia and where ever Ex Zimbo's/Rhodies have spread to. Go well and keep well to all who have a Rhodesian heritage. Thanks to Barbara.


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... -- Prituox3 (...), Mon, 21 Apr 2014, 4:00:49 (mail152.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.152)

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Blagado!!!


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ANC faces election backlash by disillusioned South Africans -- fgfjh, Sat, 19 Apr 2014, 5:31:16 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)

If the ANC were to lose 3-4 per cent in this election theyll still be in power, nothing will stop that, he told reporters at Wits University in Johannesburg, but what that signals . . . is that, my God you guys [ANC] better wake up . . . youre not going to last for five years, youre losing more and more respect.



<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/anc-faces-election-backlash-by-disillusioned-south-africans-1.1767058">http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/anc-faces-election-backlash-by-disillusioned-south-africans-1.1767058</a>


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,,, -- Prituox8 (...), Fri, 18 Apr 2014, 21:53:14 (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82)

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What a gentleman... -- James, Sun, 13 Apr 2014, 4:02:39 (CPE687f74dfc59e-CM00252e2694a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/174.116.163.134)

I bet Savage put up a great fight! What a gentleman - a gentle man. I was always waiting for his return to BT, but it wasn't to be. My condolences to his family and to anyone who knew him, because they too will miss him and rue his passing.


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RIP Savage Botha -- Ray, Sun, 13 Apr 2014, 3:51:08 (mobile-166-137-210-048.mycingular.net/166.137.210.48)

Savage Botha murdered outside his home as a result of mugging.
We will all meet in Heaven with him and have a never ending party!


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Jems/HollyRay -- Prituox (...), Sat, 12 Apr 2014, 3:40:55 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)

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... -- Prituox (...), Thu, 10 Apr 2014, 3:40:20 (mail137.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.137)

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. -- ., Wed, 09 Apr 2014, 18:27:47 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Spikka da Inglis man!!

Vaal Reefs Rugby Club second team coach Hennie van den Heever was suspended for life from all forms of rugby by the LRU following a disciplinary hearing where he was found guilty of transgressing regulation 20.4 (b) of the International Rugby Board.

Van den Heever assaulted referee Godwil Marobe at a league match between Vaal Reefs and Klerksdorp Askari Rugby Club on March 22 at Oppenheimer Stadium in Orkney.


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... -- Prituox (...), Tue, 08 Apr 2014, 20:17:57 (mail125.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.125)

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. -- ., Mon, 07 Apr 2014, 23:14:41 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)


I was walking along Clifton beach, Cape Town when I came across a lamp partially buried in the sand.

I picked up the lamp and gave it a rub. A genie appeared and told me I had been granted one wish.

I thought for a moment and said, "I want to live forever."

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BBC -- BBC, Sat, 05 Apr 2014, 4:49:31 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)

Do white people have a future in South Africa?Comments (457) By John Simpson

World Affairs Editor, BBC News


<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22554709">http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22554709</a>


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The BBC wrote a report asking: Do white people have a future in South Africa? -- kjkjkjkj, Sat, 05 Apr 2014, 4:42:35 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)

Working-class white people, most of them Afrikaans-speakers, are going through an intense crisis. But you will not read about it in the newspapers or see it reported on television


<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://southafricanews.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/bbc-discovers-white-genocide-in-south-africa/">http://southafricanews.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/bbc-discovers-white-genocide-in-south-africa/</a>


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South African politican copies Mugabe -- jjjhjhjhj, Sat, 05 Apr 2014, 4:20:36 (2.220.70.115.static.exetel.com.au/115.70.220.2)

Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Broadcast: 01/04/2014

Reporter: Martin Cuddihy

Former ANC powerbroker Julius Malema has started his own party, the Economic Freedom Fighters, which is taking a leaf out of Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe's book.

Transcript
EMMA ALBERICI, PRESENTER: South Africa will go to the polls next month and campaigning has already started in what will be a lengthy and vibrant vote.

more

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<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s3976392.htm">http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s3976392.htm</a>


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. -- ., Tue, 01 Apr 2014, 21:03:31 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

Here are the 10 most adulterous spots in SA
- Randfontein (it has even been nicknamed Randyfontein by Ashley Madison staff)
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- Johannesburg
- Pretoria
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. -- Ray, Mon, 31 Mar 2014, 15:13:31 (NoHost/69.199.125.229)

A Chinaman, Frenchman, Englishman, American, and a Pakistani are on holiday and enjoying the sights from the End of the World Cliffs in Sagres,Portugal .
Standing at the cliff edge viewing the sea, the Chinaman suddenly throws a wad of money off the cliff.

"Why did you do that?" ask the others.
"We have so much money in China and I can afford to do it," says the Chinaman.

"OK" says the Frenchman and throws a bottle of champagne off the cliff into the sea, saying, "We have so much champagne in France and I can afford to do it."

The American pushes his Ford car over the cliff saying, "We have so many cars in America, I can afford to do it."

The Englishman looks at the Pakistani, who immediately runs away, screaming."


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