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Date Posted: 01:19:04 05/12/03 Mon
Author: Don't believe most anyone, but I am not a MINDLESS HATER EITHER
Author Host/IP: qam1c-sif-39.monroeaccess.net / 12.27.215.40
Subject: Getting Real.. and identifying BS when I see it.
In reply to: Honey 's message, "Oh get real...." on 00:04:52 05/12/03 Mon


"Coalition forces???? What other countries are included in that, Laf? The "coalition forces" which invaded Iraq are ONLY the US and Greast Britain. We may have other countries who have allowed us to "use" their bases, but the ONLY countries involved in invading Iraq were the US and Great Britain. That does not add up to 50 countries no matter what school you attended. And guess what, Laf... we did NOT go into their county to "to remove Saddam Hussein and his cutthroats from power" (your words). We went into their country because they supposedly had WMD's and we were afraid they wold used them against us... or so the lie went. "


My GOD, Honey, did you miss the 600 LITHUANIANS who were there? How did you? After all, the US media widely reported that... didn't they? Uh oh. They didn't. They were too busy saying on day two that our land attack was "bogged down in a Vietnam like quagmire." I guess the 41 Lithuanian soldiers who were wounded in action there don't exist because you don't know about them. It must be the same for the 2,700 AUSTRALIAN military men (and women) who took a vital part in the operations. They are they guys who took control of the offshore pumping facility before the Iraqis there could set off the explosives they had placed. We can't count any of those troops from Belarus either because you don't know about them, so George Bush, his daddy and their friends are stealing Iraqi oil money...right? I guess those silly Geneva Conventions we adhere so assiduously as a nation don't explain what you don't understand, so the fat cat politicians have to be stealing again.


Dopn't you get it yet? THEY ARE NOT THE DANGER!!!!!!!!!!!! They tell STUPID and MEANINGLESS LIES. It is the entrenched Washington BUREACRATIC shadow government you ought to be impaling on your words instead! You ought to be demanding that NO ONE is allowed to make a living for life on a government payroll, especially when we protect them from EVER facing ANY accountability! Do you know any federal, state, county or local government EMPLOYEES like that in your community, Honey? I'm willing to bet that you do, because you have told me of some of their idiotic stunts in the past.


Gosh, Honey, there are four POLISH guys who were injured (out of 1,200 they sent there) when a booby trap went off outside Um Qsar where they were trying to hook up potable water lines to provide water to residents of that area and Basrah provided by two other NON EXISTING ALLIES (according to your knowledge) KUWAIT and QUTAR. Both provided FAR more than just use of bases in their nations, but you didn't hear about it, so it must not have happened. You see they wanted it kept quiet that they sent troops because they feared the ignorance of the people of the "Arab Street." I don't think they ever considered the lack of knowledge of our citizens allowing them to say foolish thinsg easily disporoved. Did I overlook the 48 Danish helicopter flight crews (8 crew members per aircraft plus 16 ground support personnel per craft and another 128 headquarters and support staff) that took part in the medevac efforts of the coalition that didn't exist during the first 24 hours of ground operations? Gee... you didn't read about them (I did in the pages of USA Today and on World Wide TELEVISION News Coverage in other languages I happen to understand, INCLUDING ENGLISH), so I guess that interview with the reporter from CNN Worldwide and the head of those troops didn't happen. You didn't hear about it. Silly ol' me!


Honey, you have been around here far too long and know me far too well to ever think I would ever enter a battle of factual knowledge unarmed. I may shoot off my mouth, but I don't fire intellectual blanks. Cancer or no cancer, that won't change so long as I can focus my eyes and my mind. I will agree with you that the entrenched government none of us dares acknowledge lies to, and about, us all the time. I broke up once while attending a briefing at a language school in another country where they were attempting to teach employees of an intelligence agency in that nation how to speak useable English. The instructor, a good friend of mine, asked the students to come up with a two-word English phrase that means "unbelievable lies." There was silence as the students pondered the correct phrase when one guy who had obviously seen a lot of territory in his career suddenly brightened and smiled very large as he offered the group his answer. He said, "Teacher, is same as here and all over world... GOVERNMENT FACTS!"


If you wish to modify your vitriol to reflect the realities and not mindless fingerpointing based on classism, then I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but there are another 27 nations other than the ones I mentioned above who also provided troops to that campaign. Just because YOU didn't know, does that mean they didn't? I really don't think you want to insult the 4,975 Spanish soldiers who helped overtake the Southern oil fields before Hussein's men could set more ablaze than the seven they did set on fire. You know how touchy and testy those Spanish folks can get. Uh oh, you also overlooked PAKISTANI TROOPS and agents who took part in our initial efforts.


And, only an idiot thinks ANY area where a battle is going on is NOT a combat zone. That included the entire nation of Iraq and STILL DOES. NO FEMALE belongs in ANY combat zone. They will either get themselves killed or cause some guy to get killed or hurt. (PS: I read what you sent about Jessica, but I also read the English Language newspaper from Riyahd, Saudi Arabia my professor friend from SA sent me several days earlier that had the same information you sent but had it before the stuff you sent. Some of the other stuff came from Abu Dhabi via the United Arab Emirates where I have a client working and who communicates with me from time to time. If I hadn't read that. I would have SERIOUSLY doubted anything originating in Canada.)


Honey, real world events don't have commercial breaks and wrap up before the end of the hour. You cannot even BEGIN ot conceptualize the thought processes of the Palestinians, bin Laden and the likes of Hussein. You ought to be willing to give those men and women you CLAIM to support time to do their jobs fully beofre you start claiming FALSELY that no such WMD ever existed. If they didn't, and there is ample proof of that, beyond the mindless twaddle of Brokaw, Jennings and Rather and such intellectual giants as Michael Moore and Sean Penn, then I will be happy to support the prosecution of George W. Bush, Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfield for war crimes against the Iraqi and American peoples. In the meanwhile, those who are spewing this nonsence now are going to look pretty damned stupid if, and when, that proof is found. Is it so important for you to join that chorus of vileness now, or aren't you willing to wait to find out the truth before persecuting someone who just might be innocent of what you charge? As I have said so often before on this forum....what happens if you're wrong? Would it be worse for the person you accuse than your being right? The Big Kahuna in your religious sect said it is a far worse wrong done. I tend to agree with Him.




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