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Subject: Re: Jimmy Page


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Claire
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Date Posted: 20:51:15 12/15/06 Fri
In reply to: RGC 's message, "Re: Jimmy Page" on 14:00:09 12/15/06 Fri

First of all (to get off topic for a second): Being arrested for statutory rape does NOT equal pedophilia. That's like saying all "murders" are serial killers; no first, second, or third degree in between. Our laws do not have any type of 'specifics' when it comes to statutory rape, but it is not that simple. Pedophilia is a very serious mental disorder which is something most people seem to miss. It's not something you choose to do; it's something you're born with; something you have throughout your life. If you're saying what Page did with baby groupies is pedophilia, then why did he try to date Lori again when she was around 18? And why DID he date her again in the early 80's? That does not fit the description of a pedophile. Pedophiles are predominantly attracted to pre-pubescent children. Most pedophiles prefer girls to be 13/14 or younger, and boys to be 15/16 or younger. Pedophiles are only interested in having sexual relations with children; once that child is over that childhood phase, they are of no interest anymore, and the predator moves on to their next victim. It's a life-long cycle that never ends. Page's relationship was NOT a pedophilia relationship; that has been proven by his later interest in her. He obviously did not like her for the fact that she was 14/15; he liked her for other reasons, or he would not have gone any further with the relationship. It's also not a characteristic of a pedophile to have a great relationship with his children; Page has a great relationship with Scarlette, James Jr., and his current children. If he is a pedophile, like everybody here is saying, he would not have such a good relationship with his kids. Once in a blue moon a pedophile might not hurt his children, but that's VERY rare. I've read enough cases and heard enough to know that that's very, very rare. They don't differentiate between their own children and other children, which is part of the reason why they're so dangerous.

I did not come here to discuss this, but now I am so I might as well finish. The thing that bugs me the most about this (besides the fact that those girls were so young) is that Page specifically is the ONLY one pinpointed; why is that? Every man, roadie, road manager etc. were partying with baby groupies during that time. I remember once reading a man's account of a party he went to when he first started working (I believe he was a journalist who was invited to a party LZ was going to be at) and he said Robert requested "flat-chested girls" at the party. I also know John Paul Jones had a long fling with a couple 15/16 year olds; as did Robert. I barely hear anything about Bonham but do you think he wasn't screwing them too? I don't understand why Page gets all the blame. Is it because he was written about the most? I don't get it, which is why I bring it up at all. He was no different than any other guy there; that's a fact.

I HATE to sound like I'm defending their actions because it greatly irks me to think of those 'baby groupies'... My ONLY point in typing this, is that I believe there's a strong difference between immaturity and a mental disorder; a phase in time and a mental disorder; something that was, completely, an environmental influence, and a mental disorder. All those things to me, are very, very different from one another. I'm only sharing my belief of the difference. I don't just see black or white in that situation; I see a lot of grey in between which is what I'm sharing.

Like I said, I didn't come here to discuss that but... there it is. That's my opinion on that matter. I could say more but I'll stop there.

Now, back to Jimena...

I was posting facts that I do indeed know. At first I was just typing what I thought to be the truth because I got it from an official 'source' and it was more truthful than stuff written by fans on a message board... But I now know that it is true because I have a friend who is good friends with Robert, and I just asked her about Jimena because I was curious due to lack of information. She assured me that Jimena IS in her 30's now, which would mean that what I posted is indeed true. She told me she first met Jimena in '95, backstage at a Page/Plant show, and she was NOT underage at the time. She also told me that Robert told her Jimena was pregnant with someone else's child; again which means that part of the story is true. To me, that is fact enough. More so than this stuff that has been written based off of a guess of how old she is in a picture.

Jimena is youthful looking in some pictures, but do you really think that's a for sure way to judge someone? That is completely subjective, and quite frankly it's a fallacy. When I first saw a picture of her, I assumed she was around 25. I'm personally still trying to figure out how you guys think she looks so young... Of course standing next to Page, he practically makes her look like a baby, but... Don't get me wrong, when I first saw her I was shocked as well because I thought she looked very young (to me your 20's isn't exactly old) but I never thought she looked like a teenager. Looking at her now, I can easily see her being in her early 30's — which she is, believe it or not. I don't see how it's that hard to believe. She has a youthful glow to her; probably due to good genetics and the fact that she barely wears makeup. It's not unheard of. I'd really hate to be in the public eye and have you guys judge me... You'd probably think I was 12. :-P Ok, that was my attempt at a joke.

You also said that there are, "far too many stories about Jimena's background to ascertain which version is correct." Do you realize that the only reason why there are "too many stories" is because of fans? Jimmy and Jimena never said anything for the entire length of their relationship, which is why fans have speculated. None of that means anything though. The truth is the truth; regardless of what "fans" have spread about online. I'll use that 'book' as an example: in another "Led Zeppelin/Jimmy" book I've read, Pamela was "quoted" as saying that Jimmy was indeed into black magic and that he was a satanist... How many times has she said recently (in interviews and on television) that that was bullshit? Plenty; yet there are still conflicting accounts... Does that mean we should believe that Jimmy is a satanist, because there are too many conflicting accounts to be certain? I'm practically telling you straight from the horses mouth; isn't that how he usually go about our information?

I respect everyone's opinion but I think enough is enough. I'm trying to put rumors to rest and answer questions, but it seems like people don't want that. I have the most 'truthful' information you're going to find, but you still want to believe this speculation? I don't really understand that. When I asked my friend about all of this, she was shocked that people were speculating this much about Jimena and Jimmy; she told me they are and were a genuine and loving couple. She loves Jimmy and Jimena dearly and I think it hurt her to hear this speculation because it is quite awful. It's subjective, it's random, and it's cruel to act like because you think she looks 15 in a picture, that she is. There's also a big difference between someone looking a certain way, and actually being that. I'm not sure if you're now implying that even if she is older, the fact that she "looks" young somehow proves something...

Well, that's my opinion anyway. I'm not trying to act better than anyone here, so please do not misunderstand me. I just know what I know and I do have reliable sources... More reliable than simply looking at a picture and a completely speculated story derived from that picture. I thought some people here would like some more 'reliable' information so I posted it... That was my only intention with my post — to share more truthful information. You can choose to believe or disbelieve it. I know a lot of people come online and "pretend" to be what they're not, and I know you don't know me so you may think I'm lying or making this all up, but all I can do is give you my word. I'm an honest person and I'm sharing what I know. I admit I personally do not know Page or Jimena, but I know people who do. Of course, they don't live with them and they're not "best friends" but, like I said, this is more reliable information than most.

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