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Astrid
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Date Posted: 11:57:10 07/10/02 Wed
In reply to:
Raisinmom
's message, "Re: fundamentalism is scary" on 06:06:03 07/10/02 Wed
>Thanks, Anne, you demonstrate beautiful that
>Christians of all stripes can support Israel while
>simultaneously disagreeing with some of its actions.
I hope it isn't being suggested that I was equating Christians with those fundementalists who support Israel financially. I certainly don't equate "fundamentalist Christian" with "Christian", first off.
But what I am objecting to ultimately is behaviour which is solely inspired by theology. I have no issue with a Christian supporting a Jewish state (although I am uncomfortable with nations being based upon racial or religious homogeneity, although I understand the case that is made in the case of Jews escaping persecution in Europe). I DO have an issue with that person supporting a Jewish state in order to round all the Jews up in the Holy Land so that Christ can return and convert them all. I'm sorry, I try to be open-minded about religious beliefs, but this is absolutely anti-Semitic and I think that Jews who support this source of revenue need to be wary of who they are giving power to.
>I certainly agree that support for Palestinians, or
>criticism of Israel, is not automatically
>anti-semitic, and I am sorry to see that label applied
>indiscriminately
>-- after all, there is plenty of real anti-semitism
>out there and I don't like crying wolf. Moreover,
>it's just unfair. On the other hand, there are
>definitely people whose anti-Zionism shades into
>anti-semitism (what Ron Rosenbaum called a "reflexive"
>hatred of Israel; here's the link
>http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=5772).
>This latter category is small but not insignificant
>and too widespread for comfort, especially in the Arab
>world.
I was curious as to why you'd label Fisk "anti-Israel". Were you suggesting that he was a bigot at heart, or simply observing that he disagreed with the status quo in Israel in 2002?
Because IME, most people support there being a state of Israel. Many also believe that the Palestinians have a right to coexist or exist alongside that state (obviously how we peacefully do this is the question that nobody has yet to solve). But right now, I think that a lot of people who support racial, religious and political equality believe that the Sharon government is NOT behaving as a democratic, law-abiding state, but is resembling more a military state or one that shuns justice for revenge.
Sharon is considered by many in the world to be a war criminal. So being anti-Sharon isn't the same as being anti-Israel. In fact, I would claim that those who assassinated Rabin were the ones who are ultimately anti-Israel.
Astrid
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