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Subject: Students test HIV positive in Wabag


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KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Thu, Sep 20 2007, 08:51:37am

Ladies & Gentlemen,

The discovery that our younger generation are being destroyed and infiltrated by this dreaded disease horrifies me beyond belief! Four high school students (all females) have been discovered to have contracted the HIV virus and there's no telling how many of their boyfriends and their boyfriends' other girfriends have spread on the disease! It scares me to think what could happen to our younger generation of Engans if they are not taught to abstain or avoid sex altogether, because there will be a breakdown of morality and respect in Engan society! This disease should never have been intentionally transmitted to those poor and unsuspecting young girls. The working class men who intentionally spread this disease to the poor and unsuspecting girl deserves to die a thousand deaths in hell for their lack of respect for others' rights to live!!

My heart is bleeding for the young people of today in Enga!

KLagaipT3


News, Thursday 20th September , 2007

Students test HIV positive in Wabag

FOUR female students have been tested HIV positive following an outbreak of typhoid epidemic in Wabag District.
The girls were among 210 students from Sir Tei Abal and Kopen Secondary Schools who went for typhoid treatment and blood tests at the Wabag General Hospital, recently.
The girls, all from one of the schools, were found to be HIV Positive when their blood samples were routinely screened for other infections diseases, hospital authorities confirmed yesterday.
They said many infected people, mostly men with money, were suspected of spreading the disease among young school girls and village girls and they need to take extra precautions.
A hospital executive said one bank worker who has since died from AIDS reportedly drove all over Enga province, picking up unsuspecting girls giving them K50 notes in exchange for sex.
“How many he may have infected, nobody knows. Ino mi wokim, uncle wokim,” the man is reported to have boasted to friends after he had sex with a girl.
“Uncle is another name for a K50 note. It’s a big problem when girls easily fall for a K50 note,” the executive said. This is not the first time students have tested HIV positive at the Wabag General Hospital. Others have been found positive before and with the virus making its way into confined institutions like schools, the spread to rural areas if worrying for health authorities. “Before it was an urban issue. Now with AIDS creeping its way into schools and villages, it’s rural problem on a big scale,” the hospital executive said. “How many are dying out there is not recorded. Nobody knows.” He said the best thing health workers and other voluntary organizations could do was to keep warring people to be careful and avoid catching the HIV virus how they managed their lives has up to them, the executive said.
As with the current typhoid outbreak in Wabag, health workers are routinely educating the people of their personal hygiene, to wash their hands before they prepare food or eat properly cooked food and use clean water.
Of 168 students from Sir Tei Abal Secondary school who had fallen ill, 130 were positively diagnosed with typhoid while 35 students were confirmed positive out of 42 students from Kopen Secondary School that had visited the hospital. The affected students were both boarders and day students from both secondary schools.
Hospital authorities are visiting the schools, inspecting toilet facilities, dormitories, school kitchens and taking blood samples from kitchen staff in a bid to contain the epidemic.
The infected students represent 25 per cent of 663 typhoid cases that visited the Wabag General Hospital in the month of August alone. But since the typhoid outbreak was reported in May this year, more than 2,000 people been affected of whom half have been diagnosed with typhoid and the situation does not seem to be improving. Two hundred more typhoid cases have been treated at the Wabag General Hospital in the last two weeks and the number is expected to increase by months end.

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Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Thu, Sep 20 2007, 10:27:17am

Kaimi, this is indeed a tragedy of morality. This is an animalistic behaviour from people who preyed on the disadvantaged. This could be one of the cases being reported, but regards to some of the postings in this forum and pngscape, the worse may yet to come.

Can Engans believe this, so called elites and leaders created a disadvantaged society, just to turn back and screw the unfortunates. Preying on the poor young girls is a classic example.
Such an irresponsible attitude should be strongly condemned.

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Author:
Life
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Date Posted: Thu, Sep 20 2007, 02:12:39pm

The value of life cannot be equated to a lousy K50.00

What's happening to the safe sex messages and toksave that are being propagated through the radio, tv, newspaper and outreach campaigns. Certainly the high school girls are not that dumb to ignore the risks associated with unprotected sex.

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Author:
Ol laik dai ya
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Date Posted: Thu, Sep 20 2007, 11:00:43pm

Well, guyz if girls themselves are moko lakeo so kaitas karenge, then there is no point in blaming those elites. They aren't stupids, they know what HIV/AIDS is and what it can do for them. You guys look after yourself. Girls back home have "who cares attitude" so don't worry about them. They think they can runway with their "swipe card". Iam not even sorry for them except one who is being raped.

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kattmeow
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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 21 2007, 12:10:27pm


How can you possibly compare a young inexperienced school girl who has not yet reach maturity to an adult male/female whom has had a life time of experience.

You talk about "common sense and teachings from their families, churches groups and awareness to avoid contracting AIDS/HIV" well what about the responsibility of the adult MALE (most likely MARRIEDD, with a family) of not engaging in sexual activity with a young school aged girls.

"They are just making an offer" holy moly, sorry, but these adult rich infected men should know better. Can't they just keep their penis's in their pants and not go around infecting people.

I blame the MEN not young innocent girls.

One infected man has sex with 10 different girls and each are infected with AIDS/HIV and also infects the WIFE, this is where is all starts.

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Author:
61
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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 21 2007, 11:05:54am

The freedom of choice is inherited by all human beings. Nobody coerces anybody to do anything in a democratic nation. Enga is a province in a democratic nation.

Any young man or woman who comes of age (16 -18 years and above) have the common sense and teachings from their families, churches, Aids awareness etc to avoid contracting HIV AIDS.

If they willingly pursue the pleasure of sexual intercourse and contract the dreadful disease in the process then we cannot blame anybody for their stupidity.

We cannot blame the infected rich men or women for spreading AIDS. They are just making their offer. if these idiots accept their offer then it is way out of our league to complain.

If the young people are forcefully taken advantage of or raped then all of us should protest this and the laws will dealt with it accordingly.

sapos nogat, sikirap blo ol yet lo kisim AIDS so let them die!

61

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TapuMalo
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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 21 2007, 04:46:40pm

Hi 61 & all those you think that the infected girls should die. I utterly condemn your attitudes, this is a clear case of lack of understanding on your part as an educated person from Enga.

Firstly, the leadership in Enga has created a very big gap between the rich and the poor. The poor a getting poorer and many and the rich are getting richer and few. From this generic view, one can understand that many of these students in the schools in Enga are not from rich families but from poor ordinary Engan families. These teenagers are denied the opportunity to have some sort of cash to facilitate their needs. They are sent to schools far from home, families and friends. This means, they entirely depend on the school’s ability to care for them. They depend entirely on the school for food, shelter and security which some of these schools fail to provide. If they do, it’s substandard and in terms of food-low diet and few in quantity. Therefore, the enticement of a K50 cannot be resisted by an unsuspecting, cash stripped teenager with so many needs to facilitate at the school. She has the need for laundry powder, bath, food, pen, books, pocket money etc. Come on guys, be sensible and understand the backgrounds of these girls. These girls are not from the few rich families, they are from ordinary poor Enga families. The rich guys sent their kids to Amapaka, Pom International School or overseas loaded with stolen cash.

Girls from such cash stripped families are sometimes forced to have one night stands with some of these predators in their desperate attempt to meet these daily needs. Many are lucky because they have it with men who are not HIV positive but those unfortunate 4 were the case of a worst tragedy. Maybe this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mandatory testing of some sort is required to establish the true magnitude of this dreadful situation in our schools in Enga.

The real condemnations should go those rotten polygamists who go around with K50 at night times in their fuming utilities. Why don’t they go and spank their wives again and again and again and again? Secondly, we need the political will to generate some sort of cash economy in the province where everyone will have cash in their pockets which will enable the parents of these school girls to facilitate the countless needs they face. Maybe some of these political leaders need to lead by example and stop their own womanizing behaviours. Some of these high school girls are primary targets of leaders such as Ipatas, Polye and former MPs in the likes of Kappa.

I know of girls that attend Wabag and Kopen Secondary schools and I just pray that they are on the safe side.

One for all, all for one.

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Author:
Ol laik dai ya
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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 21 2007, 07:55:02pm

Hi TapuMalo,

Your argument indirectly supports these young girls’ mere prostitute practice. That is selling their body when they need cash as it is the easiest means.

You are saying that many of these young girls are from poor families and need cash. In other words, it implies that because these girls can’t afford daily needs, screwing around for cash is appropriate. Your other idea implied here is that school girls should be screwed by non infected rich guys for cash and not by people who have got this dreadful disease. What a hypocrite idea, bro!

Now your argument is around big gap being created by rich and poor. We aren’t poor. In terms of cash, yes, you are right. But we have the resources to look after ourselves and pay for school fees. Your childish idea just supports these bastards from being lazy. Money is in the soil. Tell your girls to get their hands dirty. After school or during break, tell them to go home and make peanut garden, pick coffee, sell garden food and many more. Don’t support these girls to be like Queen Elizabeth running around with clean hands and acts as if they work in an office.

There is no such thing as easy money. This world is evil and you have to work hard to survive. If you are encouraging your girls to take the easiest route, sorry buddy, easy path has got hook in it. Your girls aren’t going to escape. Uncle with K50 is not putting these young girls on gunpoint and screwing them. Girls themselves are making their own choice. They have to die because they deserve it.

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61
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Date Posted: Sat, Sep 22 2007, 10:05:58am

Bro, that is a good response to Tapu Malo.

Further, there are also poor girls from poor families who have heeded their parents advice, pastors advice, messages from AIDS Awareness campaigns and have refrained from having sexual intercourse. Although their needs are great they most times have no money to meet then and yet he vast majority of them continue to survive and live on.

Tapu Malo, you cannot blindly tell us that these idiots who were infected went after money because they were conned by these AIDS infected bigshots and they were poor. I think it is plain common sense. These girls CHOOSE to become PAMUKS and so THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH!!!

Let them die!

61

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Author:
kattmeow
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Date Posted: Sat, Sep 22 2007, 11:58:51am

you guys are "unbelievable" to put all the blame onto the girls when truly the men seeking out sex whether for payment or not are the big sinners.

The girls will die most likely, along with the men that infected them. AIDS does not discriminate and it affects not only the individual and their families, but the community and the whole country.

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Author:
1aku
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Date Posted: Sat, Sep 22 2007, 06:37:08pm

Yes, the girls must be blamed for their own careless actions. When a tragedy like this happens, I think people’s gut reaction is anger and a desire to find someone to blame but I believe the blame is still on our young girls. We can partly blame the HIV virus infested men who are deliberately going around making our young vulnerable girls sick but these young school girls are not still in their diapers and don’t know what they are doing. They are old enough to use their God given faculty of knowledge to make sound decisions. They weren’t born yesterday! These girls should have decided to err on the side of caution.

Furthermore, I don’t want to be cynical here but these girls are not genuine students . If they we, then they would have set their priorities right – Education and not shagging around regardless of what the situation might have been. We have to accept the fact that these girls were just too ignorant despite the countless awareness that had been going on about HIV AIDS. These girls have deliberately committed suicide because they are tired of living so be it!

It seems that the more and more awareness of this dreadful disease is made, the more and more ignorant people are becoming. It makes one wonder what could be the next most appropriate method to use to educate our people not to get sick.

God help us to stay faithful!

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katt
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Date Posted: Sun, Sep 23 2007, 01:46:48pm

Maybe you could wonder about changing your own views by thinking about these few things:

Improve the status of women, challenging stigmas and changing attitudes, addressing men's roles in prevention.

cheers :)

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Author:
1aku
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Date Posted: Mon, Sep 24 2007, 04:29:16am

I can’t agree more with some of the good points you have brought about to argue your case. These transformations that you’ve mentioned are big steps that can’t be done quickly by a wave of a magic wand. We have to think big but start small. Thus, it all comes down to an individual for him/her to make sound decisions. No one can force things to come upon someone. You can make things happen or you may not. The power of choice is in your own hands. If you abuse that, then you are liable to suffer the consequences of your own careless actions. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. That’s the bottom line.

Peace out!

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Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2007, 12:26:27am

Yes, when we expect young girls to set objective about life; the least we should expect is brainless individuals to lure these girls with money.
How can we speak sense if we shift the issue to an immatured mind, when a claim matured leader/elite has behaved lower than a four legged animal.

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Author:
Wanaku (whycondem)
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Date Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2007, 04:41:45pm

Before we start to judge these young girls for thier misery. Are you all positive that they contracted the virus through acts of prostitution.

Why are you men so fast in making such arrogant remarks like that. What if it was your sister, your aunty or mother who was in that situation. Would you want people to say nasty things like that about them.

please before you make assumptions,look at the issue from open mindedly. Don't be naive, afterall we are all educated Engans. Stop this kanaka mentality.

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Author:
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Date Posted: Tue, Oct 30 2007, 12:48:56pm

Point of correction:

Kanaka Mentality = blaming others for you stupidity whereas
Educated Mentality = blaming yourself for your own stupidity.

Yu yet skelim..

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Author:
WAnaku (what!)
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Date Posted: Tue, Oct 30 2007, 08:46:30pm

Okay,

and what's your point???

Please clarify?

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Author:
Wanaku
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Date Posted: Fri, Nov 09 2007, 02:05:05am

No you know what? I think its just you trying to be an arrongant idiot. It seems to me that you are the one missing the point.

I simple said, you shouldn't be quick to judge these young girls for being prostitutes/pamuk?? whatever you want to call it. What part of that do you not understand.

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Author:
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Date Posted: Wed, Oct 31 2007, 09:58:47am

Simply go back and read the whole thread...waste of time explaining again!

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Author:
Wanaku
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Date Posted: Fri, Nov 09 2007, 02:07:14am

You are just being arrogant.

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