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Subject: Newbie - 2 year old Author: Melissa P. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 08:39:53 06/15/04 Tue We are new to the pageant world and need lots of help. I downloaded the handbook and plan to highlight well within the margins tonight! :o) We are entered into our first competion Sunshine Productions--does anyone have information on this competition? I have emailed with the director several times - she is VERY attentive and helpful, but I am looking to talk to mothers that have entered this competition before. Should I be leary that since there was no competition in my area, I pd. my state fee and was named as my state delegate and now we are going to Nationals in Sept.? This will be our first competition and now I am afraid that I have gotten my daugther and myself in over our heads. It is a natural competition--no sequins, no rhinstones, no make-up for our group.....I bought two dresses for her (almost like Easter dresses - one is white and ankle length and the other peach and knee length) - she has blond hair and blue eyes. What do you recommend I go with? - and it does not have to be the ones that I bought... Also - she is a ham to the family, but I am afraid that she will have stage fright on the day of - I am allowed to go on stage with her, any recommendations for that day and in preparation of the pageant? She will be 2 on June 19.. We are also entering swim wear and casual wear...any rule of thumbs for entering this categories? Thank you for all your help! :o) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Sunburst is HIGH GLITZ at Nationals!!! Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:49:40 06/16/04 Wed For her coloring, I would go with "bright pastels" like hot pink or bright peach or turquoise. Try to find a pageant dress shop or a bridal salon with glitz dresses, or check out eBay or online pageant consignment to find a gown. Easter dresses will not work. I hate to tell you, but you jumped headfirst into one of the highest glitz pageants in the USA, for a newbie. Also, what state are you in that you were given the state title for the fee, and asked to go to Nationals?

[> [> Subject: Oh wow, just realized you said Sunshine, not Sunburst! LOL Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:52:21 06/16/04 Wed Forget the subject line. I am not too familiar with Sunshine, sorry. But as for the dress info, check up on that, because you may need it in the near future.

[> [> Subject: Re: Sunburst is HIGH GLITZ at Nationals!!! Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:23:55 06/17/04 Thu So it seems that the purchase of a glitz dress is unavoidable. I believe that Sunburst is the organization that will be holding the competition at our state fair in MO in August - would it be considered glitz at that level too? What sort of prices am I looking at for a glitz dress?

[> [> [> Subject: You will eventually need a high glitz dress for your DD. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:57:49 06/17/04 Thu My view is, the sooner you invest in one, the sooner you start getting the great dress scores. You can find them second hand for $200 and up, new and custom for $500 and up. Shop around, and ask pageant moms you meet where thay get theirs.

[> [> [> Subject: To be safe... Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:06:20 06/17/04 Thu consider all levels of Sunburst as glitz. Better to be prepared.

[> [> [> [> Subject: http://www.yammiwear.com/boutiquedress.htm Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:04:04 06/18/04 Fri Check out that site for inexpensive dresses custom made. You will then need to dye and stone it. I just found the site on another board, and thought you might want to chekc it out for your first glitz dress.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Also look at... Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:07:11 06/18/04 Fri www.dshawn.com

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: To be safe... Author: celticanne77 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:27:48 10/27/04 Wed Not with our experience! I did Sunburst a decade ago and won with mild glitz at state level. My daughter and son just did it this past weekend along with my cousin's child. My kids were glitz dressed. The winners in all 3 age groups we competed in were in at best sunday dress. The one that won my daughter's group was in a plaid and velvet dress that I see kids wearing to school! We're STILL confused as to HOW the judges were judging. The kids won the extras but none placed higher than 2nd.

[> [> Subject: Re: Sunburst is HIGH GLITZ at Nationals!!! Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:35:43 06/17/04 Thu What determines how I should do my daugter's hair? It does not curl very well at all, but that is all I ever seem to see the girls wear...curls! Can I send you a pic. and tell me what you think?

[> [> [> Subject: Most girls your daughter's age in glitz pageants are wearing wiglets or falls for those pretty curls Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:00:44 06/17/04 Thu You should look online for pageant hair-and-makeup people, and try to find examples of their work, and their prices. Most girls have professional h/m done for state and national pageants.

[> [> Subject: Re: Sunburst is HIGH GLITZ at Nationals!!! Author: PAIGE GRIZZLE [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:52:04 04/28/06 Fri I AM GOING TO DO NATIONALS IN JUNE AND I DONE STATE AND WON MY AGE DIVISON BUT SO WAS GLITZ AND SOME WAS NOT SO LIKE SOMEONE SAID BEFOR IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR!!!!!

[> Subject: Go with a one-piece swimsuit, with a pattern or theme that is age-appropriate. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:45:17 06/16/04 Wed For casual wear, think modern prep. No school uniform, but cutesy skirt-and-sweater look. That's my favorite, at least.

[> [> Subject: Re: Go with a one-piece swimsuit, with a pattern or theme that is age-appropriate. Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:12:29 06/17/04 Thu Thank you for all your help....I bought her a "holly hobby" type dress with a straw hat with matching ribbon...of course I think that it is adorable, but I read where someone said "no hats"....your thoughts?

[> [> [> Subject: Go with what you and your daughter are comfortable with. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:04:36 06/17/04 Thu Most moms don't like hats because they mess up the hair. I think they can be cute if they are used the right way. Make sure you are ready to go against the grain in your first pageants. I'm not trying to discourage you from the hat, but the judges will either love the originality or hate the non-conformity.

[> Subject: Is your daughter's name Cyleigh Hope ? Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:33:22 06/19/04 Sat I checked out the website to see what the winners looked like, and looked for state title holder that matched your DD's description. If that is her, she is a cutie!

[> [> Subject: Re: Is your daughter's name Cyleigh Hope ? Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:02:17 06/22/04 Tue Thank you for your compliment regarding Cyleigh. I think that she is a cutie too, but of course I am her mom and partial! :o) I would love her to do well in pageants, I think that she has the potential but at 2 yrs. old she has a mind of her own - I have a hard time getting her to smile on que - I just would hate for her to have stage fright (she will not walk without me). So even if the Sunburst director is telling me that most of the girls wear party dresses or Sunday dresses to the state fair pageant, you would still put her in glitz and makeup?

[> [> [> Subject: 99% of the winners I see in any Sunburst pageant are in glitz. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:25:50 06/22/04 Tue Start in low glitz if that is what you feel comfortable with. I would definitely recommend glitz even for the local pageant. If you need photo retouching, email me. I do it absolutely FREE! brittikey@wmconnect.com

[> [> Subject: Re: Is your daughter's name Cyleigh Hope ? Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:22:20 06/22/04 Tue What are your thoughts about buying a dress from websites like www.pageantdress.com or www.thepageantshoppe.com ????

[> [> [> Subject: I didn't see any children's dresses on www.pageantdress.com. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:29:18 06/22/04 Tue I may have not looked hard enough. I do know, however, that the Pageant Shoppe has a great reputation in children's pageant wear, and is well-known. That would be a good place to start dress-hunting.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I didn't see any children's dresses on www.pageantdress.com. Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:48:20 06/22/04 Tue I loved some of the dresses listed on the Pageant Shoppe and of course the one that I liked the most I was told has been in the circuit for about 5 years and always a winner in white, but it is full of sequins and beading (pearls)...I heard this is out of style and we could be penalized for the dress...is this true?

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: If it has been in the circuit for that long and always wins, it will probably still do very well. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:41:18 06/25/04 Fri However, pearls are outdated now. It may be a good starter dress, but if you have been told you could be penalized for the decor, you very well could be. Try to find out from the salesperson or a professional pageant wear designer if there is a way to change the decorations or something. Sometimes those things can come off easily and be replaced.

[> Subject: Re: Newbie - 2 year old Author: Valerie S. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:23:16 06/21/04 Mon I paid my granddaughter's entry fee to the same pageant system. I asked specific questions before entering her, like the policy on make up (I won't put make up on a 3-year old)and clothing. I was told that small children are not allowed to wear make up (yeah!)and no pageant dresses (no flashy ones with stones). The Director seemed very helpful and answered my emails promptly. If you will be entering any Sunburst pageants, they are high glitz. My granddaughter won at the local level, was runner up at the state level and attended the Nationals last year. Lots of makeup on the little ones and very glitzy clothing at Nationals. The only exception was the day care wear. Also, a lot of the children were wearing hairpieces. The state and local competitions are a little less glitzy.

[> [> Subject: Re: Newbie - 2 year old Author: Melissa P. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:07:31 06/22/04 Tue WOW! This is all so new to me...I don't know if I can do all that make-up on a 2 yr. old..and hair pieces?? Forget it...did you put your grand daugther in a glitz dress for your Sunburst local pageant? Did you decide to enter into the Sunshine Productions pageant? Which one did you choose to enter?

[> [> [> Subject: Sunshine really looks like a "natural" pageant. Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:00:41 06/22/04 Tue Winners are in Sunday best, simple hair styles, no makeup. Looks like a good system for a "newbie", or anyone who isn't ready for full-on glitz.

[> Subject: Re: Newbie - 2 year old Author: ? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:35:02 07/09/04 Fri I have never done this system before but let me give you some sound advise on any system, especially if you are new to pageants. Call the director and ask if you can buy either last years national pageant tape or a state tape. It wont be free but it is a wise investment because it will give you an idea of the level of competition and the attire you should expect would work best. Better to spend the extra 10.00-60.00 then to get there and have any suprises. Also, take a look at the pictures on the web site (if there are any) and see what girls were wearing last year.

[> Subject: Re: Newbie - 2 year old Author: Melissa P [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:52:14 07/22/04 Thu I wanted to give you all an update. We competed in our first natural pageant the weekend of July 17....there were 11 girls competing in the 19-35 month age group....and we took 3rd! We are so excited...needless to say it was not Queen (and that is ok) but we now have the BUG!!!! If anyone can recommend some pageant systems (as close to MO as possible) - prefer natural but at this point would also consider some exposure to light/med. glitz....no where ready for the highrollers yet! LOL My concern is this...take for example photogenic...the girl who won (same as the one that took queen) had an enhanced/retouched photo - make up and all...so I agree with the other mom...why can exceptions be made for some and not others...my luck - we would have done it and would have been DQ. So do we take our chances with doing this at nationals?

[> [> Subject: Congratulations! Author: *** [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:33:40 07/27/04 Tue Best of luck in all of your future pageant adventures! Check out www.voy.com, click on "Sports, Games, Hobbies", click again on pageants, and check out some of the sites to look for more pageant systems. Have fun!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Newbie - 2 year old Author: Nicole [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:43:00 10/28/04 Thu Congratulations! I have a 4yr old and we have done high-gliz and natural pageants. Have you heard of Our Little Miss?It is a wonderful pageant system.They give scholarships and are more family oriented.They were very little makeup on the little ones and they don't like the hair falls unless their not noticeable.The pics are not enhanced.Oh,the dresses.They can be gliz or no gliz.I've seen winners wear either.I've seen a sunday dress win over a national dress.But you can't have a opening in the back of the dress below the shoulder blades.If so,it has to be covered up with a piece of material.They like the children to look like children.Here's my advice.Try to do as many of the small pageants as you can.The more experience she has on-stage the better. Here is the website:www.ourlittlemiss.com.If you have any questions please email me at anw_southerngirl@hotmail.com

[> Subject: SOCKS FOR PAGEANTS Author: SUSAN [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:45:33 04/20/06 Thu DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADVISE ON PAGEANT SOCKS? MY NOW 7 YR. OLD WON 1ST PLACE IN THE PELIM SUNBURST PAGEANT AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO STATE NEXT MONTH. I AM MAKING THE DRESS THAT IS AQUA/BLUE WITH SILVER GLITZ, BUT WAS THINKING ABOUT PUTTING SOME AQUA/BLUE TASSLE BEADS AROUND THE CUFF OF THE WHITE SOCKS. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA OR SHOULD THEY JUST BE WHITE. THE ONES I HAVE NOW ALREADY HAVE A LACY/RIBBON RUFFLE, BUT IT'S NOT VERY FANCY OR BIG. I'M A NEWBIE AT THIS. PLEASE ADVISE IF YOU CAN. THANKS. S.