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Date Posted: 08:25:54 12/02/02 Mon
Author: tamarisk
Subject: Sola, "Ed Adams" et al

~Margaret~
In Response To Sim2
Monday December 2, 2002 at 1:04
We "SEE" that, but we also "SEE" that God is taking on "THREE DIFFERENT FORMS" in order to complete the plan of Salvation.
You and I are extremely close, here. We would see the same, if I could shake you loose of requiring the number three. i.e. Show me the three forms of Jesus, "who was, is, and is to come"? Why must you insist upon three forms? The Father is a Spirit having no form. The Holy Spirit is Spirit without form. The notion of three, and of forms, never was Jewish!!! it was Catholic!!!

Hummmm! As I read Isaiah 42, I have to wonder whether Mags knows anything about the Jewishness of the faith.

Isa 42:1-8
1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.(KJV)

Who Mags, is talking here about whom? There is no doubt, reading from the Talmud or the Rabbinical Midrashim, this is a prophesy of Mechiach. Later Rabbi's applied it to the Nation Israel, but this prophesy is PERSONAL and NOT NATIONAL.

Maybe this is your problem as you ascribe Salvation in a National sense (Apostolic Denominationalism), rather than Personal (requiring Believer's Baptism).
Consider the words "servant...mine elect." The Hebrew her is chiyriy and actually means--one chosen or set apart for a definate purpose. So, we have here, Yud Hah Vav Hah--the very name of Abba G_d in the Hebrew--having CHOSEN Y'shua, His Son, for a very definate purpose. Ruach, in the Hebrew means spirit. The full name and title is Ruach HaKodesh--the Third Person in the Trinity; The Holy Spirit of G_d--having another purpose and ministry in G_d's eternal plan for man.

Strongs--ruach (roo'-akh);
a primitive root; properly, to blow, i.e. breathe; only (literally) to smell or (by implication, perceive (figuratively, to anticipate, enjoy):
KJV-- accept, smell, X touch, make of quick understanding.

Upon reading the phrase "make of quick understanding," it amuzes me how slow many, calling themselves Christians, are in their understanding. Instead of holding fast to Biblical Truth, as taught by the teacher of truth, they want to hold on to their nonsense and their idols.
For you, Mags, not to believe the Trinity is a Jewish teaching, is NOT to believe in Gentile salvation. Again, in your hatred of Jews, you fail to understand Israel, as G_d's chosen people, is NOT AN end. Israel is the MEANS to THE END. THE END is the Salvation of the Nations by the coming of their personal Mechiach and Savior.

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