Psalm 119:165
"Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them."
FROM BEAVIS & JACKHEAD’s
Subject: Re: Christ's better way
Author: dori
Date Posted: 17:27:08 09/20/02 Fri
”………….."it is far easier to bring people to Christ when setting the example and living it than to preach at them..." I wasn't referring to telling people about God and spreading the Word. I was referring to people who preach AT someone... telling them they are wrong and setting themselves up as the expert.
I agree that we all see it differently and if we feel our way is the right way and present it as the only right way, we WILL tick people off. I never set myself up as a judge. Maybe my church does when it insists it is the only true church, but I don't happen to agree with my church on that issue, as I disagree on others.
What I'm saying is, God is the only judge. He told us to witness for him. I say we witness by showing Christian love and setting a good example, not bludgeoning people over the head with OUR version of the Bible.”
Don't let anyone kid you! It isn't because of your 'personality'! (or lack of it)
It isn't because of your delivery - your language - or the hardness in your words or 'how you present it'.
It isn't the fault of your style, or “PREACHING AT THEM!” - it isn't the fault of anybody other than they themselves.
If compromising with 'em would of won 'em to the Lord,
we would have won 'em a long time ago.
They don't want to hear it. Period.
If a person is truly seeking the truth in life, they will take it anyway you present it - but if they are not seeking, and dori has one of the hardest hearts around, then no matter how wonderful you are in your delivery - how you say it - how great and marvelous your e-mails are, they won't hear it -and they will just get mad at you!
What dori also does not want to accept is that human’s opinions and denominations do not matter. They change and are always in flux. Even her precious apostate church has changed much over the 1500 years, or so, it has been established. That is why I do NOT BELONG TO A DENOMINATION…..(Rev Serpent Egg! Get that straight.) We Cite the Scriptures because they are the WORD OF GOD. They remain constant.
dori is not willing to turn to the 'written' scriptures as the final authority?
Many times, Jesus said...
Matthew 22:29/Mark 12:24
... Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. You err dori because you do not know the scriptures. That is not me saying that. It is Christ. It is not a veiled message.
Hebrews 3:10
... They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
You learn God's ways by what is written!
It is written! - 17 times in the O.T.
It is written! - 63 times in the N.T.
Repeat: It isn't the fault of our style, or “PREACHING AT THEM!” - it isn't the fault of anybody other than they themselves.
If compromising with 'em would of won 'em to the Lord,
we would have won 'em a long time ago.
They don't want to hear it. Period.
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Re: Could it be, that they have not received the love of the truth? -- Explain this dori....., 09:41:58 09/22/02 Sun
What does this phrase mean dori?
JESUS; THE LAMB AND THE LION.
dori continues to prove the above post's wisdom and truth.
Repeat: It isn't the fault of our style, or “PREACHING AT THEM!” - it isn't the fault of anybody other than they themselves.
If compromising with 'em would of won 'em to the Lord,
we would have won 'em a long time ago.
They don't want to hear it. Period.
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Cheshire Cat Grin Dear Ones!! -- Ester, 00:18:36 09/22/02 Sun
Had to turn on the 'puter just to say that The Star of David is now flying in Yasser Arafat's headquarters compound in the West Bank. Now THAT makes this grafted on branch s-m-i-l-e!
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A Post From Beavis & JackHead's Forum: http://www.voy.com/84031/ -- Booda, 21:35:28 09/21/02 Sat
Subject: Dori
Author: Willie T
Date Posted: 11:54:12 09/21/02 Sat
In reply to: dori 's message, "Char and Jack" on 11:54:12 09/21/02 Sat
"Dori it appears that you are as bad or worse than sak or sola, jack hasn't had any dealings or real experience with these people that he hasn't had with almost everyone that doesn't agree with his crap.
So Dori by continuing such foolishness as you display here places you and Jack along side the ones you belittle.
You and Jack should take your discussion of sola and sak elsewhere, namely email. "
BY JOVE! They may be on to something, Watson.
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Re: A Post From Beavis & JackHead's Forum: http://www.voy.com/84031/ -- concerning "creepy" men & "silly women laden with sin", 21:55:47 09/21/02 Sat
"For of this sort are they which creep into houses,
and lead captive silly women laden with sins,
led away with divers lusts,"
2 Timothy 3:6
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Re: A Post From Beavis & JackHead's Forum: http://www.voy.com/84031/ -- bwahahaha, 22:34:32 09/21/02 Sat
Subject: Re: Smile and have a gooooooood....
Author:
Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 16:50:56 09/21/02 Sat
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Believe it or not, when I was a kid watching Gilligan's Island, I developed a crush on Dawn Wells (a.k.a. Marian). I did not care one iota for Tina Louise!"
I'm sorry, they are just not your type. Neither are inflatable with bicycle pumps.
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Beavis and JackHead -- Sola Scriptura, 22:11:52 09/21/02 Sat
"Be sober, be vigilant;
because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion,walketh about,
seeking whom he may devour: "
I Peter 5:8
As I am aware that there are already many wonderful and far more detailed study sites on the web that deal with the Catholic Church, I am still going to do what I enjoy the most as a soldier and that is take some shots at the enemy, too.
The enemy, of course, is the Devil - Eph 6:12.
One of many war strategies is to go after the 'home' of the enemy - and in this case, the earthly home of the Devil is the Roman Catholic Church. (Revelation 18).
I will do my part with my weapon (Sword of the Spirit) and so I call to them that have ears, let them hear; to them that have eyes, let them see - for it is Satan Himself who has blinded millions of people in this world.
But if our gospel be hid, to persona like doris, it is hid to them that are lost:
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
II Corinthians 4:3,4
JackHead is her enemy and uses dori. She just doesn't know it bacause she has not the Spirit to impart on her Godly Wisdom and discernment. JackHead is a selfish prideful man of darkness who speaks from an oily mouth.
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How Beezle-Bubba Became "Bishop" In One Prayer or Less -- Booda, 19:45:57 09/18/02 Wed
Haven't been 'round for a while. Let's see if this closed some open HTML's. Hope everyone is in health. Keep looking up!
TAMARISK says: ”I can't remember how Rt Rev said he came about becoming a Bishop. Me tinks he must have been painting the ceiling of his parents bathroom, slipped, and hit his punkin' heed on his china god. Thus, he received a revelation he should appoint himself a Bishop.” LOL!
I pictured him SITTING on his THRONE, eating a banana and peanut butter sandwich, reading Bait and Tackle. But what do I know? Why does this scene come to mind???
1 Kings 18
26So they (Holy Joe Purple Robed, BIG Phylactery Howellings) took the bull given them (him), dressed it, and called on the name of Baal (his deity) from morning until noon, saying, O Baal, hear and answer us (ME!.....”answer me in tha’ name offff baaaaaaal! Damn it!”) But there was no voice; no one answered. And they (tha’ holy reverend) leaped upon or limped about the altar they (he made FOR SHOW!!!)
1 Kings 18 (with various versions – is has Rev. Whoopie Cushion’s cloven hoofs all over it)
26So they prepared one of the bulls and placed it on the altar. Then they called on the name of Baal all morning, shouting, "O Baal, answer us!"
But there was no reply of any kind.
Then they danced wildly around the altar they had made.
27About noontime Elijah began mocking them.
"You'll have to shout louder," he scoffed, "for surely he is a god!
Perhaps he is deep in thought, or he is relieving himself.
Or maybe he is away on a trip,
or he is asleep and needs to be wakened!" NLT
"Answer us, Baal!" But there was no answer.
27At noon, Elijah began making fun of them. "Pray louder!" he said. "Baal must be a god. Maybe he's day-dreaming or using the toilet or traveling somewhere.
Or maybe he's asleep, and you have to wake him up." CEV
At noon Elijah mocked them, saying, Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is musing, (LOL) or he has gone aside, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened. AMP
LOL!
To answer your question about “how he became bishop” This PFAI – “ PENTECOSTAL FAITH ASSEMBLIES, INC.” http://www.pfai.faithweb.com/index.html
FIRST: HOW DID PFAI COME ABOUT? (YULE Like This….and Reverend Whoopie Cushion Likes it when we say “YULE”, spelled “YULE”……tee-hee….idiot said that we spelled it wrong! Well, ya think, Jethro?)
”In 1989 an anointed prophet of God recounted a vision to another minister during a Pastor's Meeting at Red Rock, Oklahoma. She said, "I don't know why God is having me share this with you, but I had a vision and in this vision I could see the United States from coast to coast. The whole land lay in darkness. Suddenly, a lighthouse began to emerge from the gloom in Oklahoma. Wherever the light from this lighthouse was shed abroad, other lighthouses began to spring up. And then where they shed their light, still others popped up and they began to spread north, south, east and west until the whole land was covered in light from sea to sea."
Lighthouse? Again there are those who would say he mis-understood her to say BRICK OUT HOUSE! LeRoy. ( brings us back to I Kings 18!)
Under Article 2 – Purposes of PFAI it states:
”This Religious Corporation shall have the right to possess, buy, mortgage, sell, lease, barter and exchange real and personal property, to borrow money, to collect funds, receive gifts and legacies as it may judge necessary for the attainment of these purposes, all in accordance with this Constitution and the Bylaws, or as the same may be changed or amended hereafter.”
WHERE DO THESE MONIES GO & WHO ADMINISTERS THEM, UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY, OR ACCOUNTABILITY DOES IT MANAGE THEM???
ANSWER:” Article 3 – Management: The management of this Association - Spiritual, Religious, Educational and Temporal - shall rest in the divinely called and duly consecrated Bishop assisted by the ordained clergy and other appointed officers, as needed” !!!!!. wink- wink “as needed”…. I personally LOVE that “divinely called” part! Nice touch. Jackals. He is calling HIMSELF “divine.”
……”No property of this organization shall be sold, mortgaged, leased, rented or given away without the same shall be approved by the Bishop.”
wink-wink-wink wink wink…..twitch, tick…CLOUSEAU!!!!!
His ordination? According to him the “former” (I believe that was “Bishop Kear” without checking my files) “former” bishop of this PFAI scam, “was leaving PFAI” So Jack wanted to be Bishop and prayed, this other “bishop” prayed….VOILA! They decided that Jack Howell should be a bishop. The former “bishop” made Jack “bishop”! End of Story. “Cept the “former” Bishop Kear still is the contact person for part of the workings of PFAI, go figure. It ia all a REAL hinky rinky-dink deal that is tainted with lotsa odor.
GET THIS! AND NOW Jack “ordains” others as “bishop”! Before yer know it we will be up to our royal rear ends in bishops!
PFAI’s three “officers” are basically his personal “pastor” of a small church, and two friends.
Then there are the PFAI members: one guy is said to be ” is an Evangelist with a prophetic anointing.” ….another: ” Rev. LaDell Elliott, Prophet/Evangelist….. is a choice instrument of the Holy Spirit. He is an anointed Prophet of God with an evangelistic outlook. LaDell knows that the power of God is a very present and tangible reality there. Souls are saved. People are delivered. The Sick are healed. The miraculous presence of the Risen Christ flows freely! If you are interested in having an "Old Time Pentecostal Revival" in your Church or city, please contact Rev. LaDell Elliott by emailing the Bishop's Office - then Get Ready! Get Ready! Get Ready! ” Yip. Yip. Yip. Yip-YAHOO! Y’ALL!!!
A closing thought: one of the folks on his officer staff (of THREE) is another one who obviously is a phoney-type like the Rt. Rev. He is photographed in front of a wall with ELEVEN FRAMED Certificates/”diplomas” (???) Just like Jack who always gives HIMSELF the glory instead of the One he claims to represent.
Jack also has as an affiliate, who is a WOMAN “ordained minister” (they must select the areas of scripture that they like and delete the rest) And another guy involved with this pile of POOP has been “ordained” for about a year, prolly “ordained” by Rt. & Lft. Rev. Whoopie Cushion!
“May the FORCE be with ‘em.” FOFLMCFO!
For Jackals
TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 107.
Sec. 107. –Copyright Fair use RIGHTS…..
DEAL WITH IT! Revy Beezle-Bubba
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Re: How Beezle-Bubba Became "Bishop" In One Prayer or Less -- Gabby Hayes, 20:00:46 09/18/02 Wed
"The management of this Association - Spiritual, Religious, Educational and Temporal - shall rest in the divinely called and duly consecrated Bishop assisted by the ordained clergy and other appointed officers, as needed”
!!!!!. wink- wink “as needed”…. I personally LOVE that “divinely called” part! Nice touch. Jackals. He is calling HIMSELF “divine.” "
Thar ya have it Jethro! How evers heez dun it, that Bishop thingie yer axed 'bout....it sayz right thar in thems fine print: "divinely called and duly consecrated Bishop"
as the mayor sayd at the town hall meetin' abouts ma speach whars I was flapping my arms all overdaplace in "BLAZING SADDLES".........
"AND WHO CAN ARGUE WITH THAT??"
.......that's why he is part of the apostate WOF, "NAME IT AND CLAIM IT!" posse thats dirtin up the community.
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Re: How Beezle-Bubba Became "Bishop" In One Prayer or Less -- Grey Hound, 01:26:33 09/19/02 Thu
Confucious say: ''If Rev. Whoopie Cushion runs behind bus he is going to get his demons exhausted.''
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Re: How Beezle-Bubba Became "Bishop" In One Prayer or Less -- tamarisk, 10:03:47 09/20/02 Fri
Here is an interesting verse of Scripture:
1 Pet 2:25
25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
(KJV)
Yule notice here that the words Shepherd and Bishop are capitalized. This verse is completing Peter's message starting in verse 21. Healing is one primary figure for redemption; coming home is another.
Peter sees that the church was as scattered sheep; now been brought back, and since it is Mechiach who has accomplished this, He is the Shepherd. The word Bishop here, in the Greek, means "manager" in the N.T. and is synonymous with "elder" or "pastor," but applied here to Mechiach as the ultimate Bishop of souls.
This is the great lie and false teachings of the Modern Charismatic/Third Wave Pentecostalism-Vineyard and Lighthouse Movements/Word of Faith, etc. By perverting scripture to meet their pragmatic, and false teachings, THEY become the Bishop of your soul. It's not really Mechiach that saves, according to their heretical teachings, it's THEIR GOOD WORKS, through the made up nonsense they call "unction" or anointing.
1 Tim 3:1-7
1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
(KJV)
Having the calling a spiritual gifts of a pastor is a good work. The word "desire" is used here. It is a very strong and intense word. The Lord "draws" men to salvation from within and does the same for service, through placing a desire "to do His good pleasure." This is not to be equated with "burden" for some people or particular field.
Rt Rev's ministry is either a "burden" or a "desire." The Talmidim Sh'aul said "woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel." The call to preach or pastor(to do His good pleasure) is an intense burning desire for this ministry planted in one's heart by G_d.
The Rt Rev should take a long, prayerful look at these qualifications listed by Sh'aul. Some are absolute and some are relative, but one MUST not change nor lower the standard(through false and wrong doctrines and teaching), only do ALL to measure up to G_d's standard.
The Kumbaya/Pacadorian/Koffee Klatch Christian crowd can't buy a vowel concerning the world love. In all their arguments, they have never disproven what we preach here is unloving. You must be ready and "apt to teach." A G_d-called pastor most assuredly has the gift of teaching. A pastor must reach the sinner and teach the saint. To NOT do both is unscriptural and unbalanced.
Rt Rev is a non-descript novice because he does not understand the word ruleth(or rules). It must be done by loving leadership and NOT a dictatorship. Pastor-centered churches never grow and prosper(actually pastor possessed). This, again, is the grave error of Jackals and his pragmatic, Neo-Evangelical "Spirit-Filled Movement.
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Re: How Beezle-Bubba Became "Bishop" In One Prayer or Less -- Twilight Zone Music, PLEEEZE......., 21:12:12 09/21/02 Sat
”In 1989 an anointed prophet of God recounted a vision to another minister during a Pastor's Meeting at Red Rock, Oklahoma. She said, "I don't know why God is having me share this with you, but I had a vision and in this vision I could see the United States from coast to coast. The whole land lay in darkness. Suddenly, a lighthouse began to emerge from the gloom in Oklahoma. Wherever the light from this lighthouse was shed abroad, other lighthouses began to spring up. And then where they shed their light, still others popped up and they began to spread north, south, east and west until the whole land was covered in light from sea to sea."
Lighthouse? LIGHTHOUSE????? Again there are those who would say he mis-understood her to say BRICK (OUT) HOUSE! LeRoy. ( brings us back to I Kings 18!)
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Feast of Tabernacles / Festival of Sukkot -- Sola Scriptura, 20:18:17 09/21/02 Sat
My Jewish Calendar has expired and I need to find a new one! I am of the belief that the Rapture will occur during one of the Feasts of Tabernacles / Festivals of Sukkot in coming times. Just skimmed this article the author is not always trustworthy and is sometimes in error, but the article may provoke some thought.
From: Koenig's International News
Feast of Tabernacles / Festival of Sukkot
begins at sundown Friday
September 21st -- 29th
The Feast of Tabernacles, known as Sukkot, is held by divine decree on the fifteenth through twenty-first days of Tishri, September or October on the Julian calendar. The festival begins after the ingathering of the fall harvest, and is the happiest of the biblical feasts. It celebrates God’s bounty in nature and God’s protection, symbolized by the fragile booths in which the Israelites dwelled in the wilderness. According to Jewish belief and tradition, Sukkot also involves Gentiles, and seventy bullocks were offered up in the Temple for the seventy nations of the world (all they knew existed in that time). In the messianic age, the prophet Zechariah predicted, all nations will come up to Jerusalem to celebrate Sukkot as an affirmation of faith in God’s guidance of the world (Zechariah 14:16).
As seven is the number of fulfillment and completion, this seventh festival ushers in God’s rest and points to the one-thousand-year Millennium, the reign of Christ
”Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, ‘Speak to the children of Israel, saying: “the fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be a holy convocation. You shall do not customary work on it. For seven days you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord. On the eighth day you shall have a holy convocation, and you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord. It is a sacred assembly, and you shall do not customary work on it ... Also on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you have gathered in the fruit of the land, you shall keep the feast of the Lord for seven days; on the first day there shall be a sabbath-rest, and on the eighth day a sabbath-rest.
“And you shall take for yourselves on the first day the fruit of beautiful trees, branches of palm trees, the boughs of leafy trees, and willows of the brook; and you shall rejoice before the Lord your God for seven days. You shall keep it as a feast to the Lord for seven days in the year. It shall be a statute forever in your generations. You shall celebrate it in the seventh month. You shall dwell in booths for seven days. All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths, that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.’”
Leviticus 23:33-36, 39-43 NKJV
The Feast of Tabernacles is also called the Feast of Lights. To commemorate the pillar of fire that led the children of Israel by night, at the end of the first day of the feast the priests and Levites went down to the court of the women, where four huge golden candelabra had been placed on bases fifty cubits high. Each candelabrum had four branches, and each branch terminated in a huge basin in which rested a twisted wick – made of holy garments the priests had worn in the previous year. While the Levites and priests sang praises and waved torches, sixteen young men of priestly descent climbed ladders in order to pour more than seven gallons of pure oil into each basin. When the great wicks were kindled, the light from the flames was so intense that the Mishnah says there was no courtyard in Jerusalem that was not lit up with the light.
How fitting that Jesus stood in the midst of His people and proclaimed, “I am the light of the world” (John 9:5 NKJV).
The Feast of Tabernacles is also called “the season of our joy,” I believe Jesus was born during the time of Sukkot. He was obviously no born in December, for Luke 2:8 records that at the time of Jesus’ birth there were “shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night” (NKJV). From biblical times to the present, shepherds in Israel leave the cold of the open fields and pen their sheep at night beginning in the month of October. Due to the nighttime cold, there were no shepherds in any fields in December. It was customary, however, to send the flocks out after Passover, and they would remain in the fields until the first rain or frost in October. Jesus’ birth, then, had to occur sometime between Passover and early October. I believe He was born during the Festival of Sukkot, the season of joy!
The angels gathered on the first Christmas morning and announced, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people” (Luke 2:10 NKJV). They knew the King of kings had come into the world. In the same way, the Feast of Sukkot celebrates the coming time when Jesus Christ will rule over the entire earth..
Zechariah prophesied that the Messiah would be God’s greatest gift to the earth. “And the Lord shall be king over all the earth,” he wrote. “In that day it shall be– ‘The lord is one,’ and His name one” (14:9 NKJV). The Messiah’s coming will bring joy to the nations of the world.
Jesus Christ is our joy. As we await His second coming when He will rule over the entire world, we rejoice in the power of the name that is above every name. One of the given names of Jesus, Emmanuel, means “God with us.” He is the wonderful Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace. Our Savior and Deliverer is also our Friend and Comforter. He gives us joy today the world will know tomorrow. In His presence is fullness of joy.
Nearly 250 years ago, the English writer Isaac Watts wrote a hymn based on Psalm 98. Although we traditionally sing his song at Christmas, the lyrics are really about the millennial reign of Christ. How appropriate it would be to sing this song during Sukkot, the festival that points forward to the Millennium and backward to the wonderful nativity of Christ.
Joy to the world! The Lord is come;
Let earth receive her king;
Let every heart prepare Him room,
And heaven and nature sing.
He rules the world with truth and grace,
And makes the nations prove
The glories of His righteousness,
And wonders of His love.
Isaac Watts
Present Day Tabernacles
Contemporary Jews still consider Sukkot to be a time for great rejoicing. The festival is observed from the fifteenth of Tishri for seven days and concludes on the eighth day with the observance of Atseret/Simchat Torah a service in which the congregation finishes reading the last verses of Deuteronomy and immediately begins again with the first verses of Genesis. Jewish tradition has divided the Torah into weekly portions so that one reads through the entire Torah each year. The immediate reading of the first verse of Genesis illustrates that the study of God’s Word should never end.
At the conclusion of the reading, the Torah scrolls are removed from the ark in which they are kept and carried around the synagogue in a celebratory procession. Like the Jews who circled the altar in Jesus’ time, the present-day celebration of Sukkot is a joyous occasion, but modern Jews credit their joy to having lived to complete the reading of the Torah yet another time so they can begin reading it again.
In some synagogues, the children are called forward at the conclusion of the service. While the adults form a canopy over them by holding their prayer shawls over their heads, the blessing of Jacob, from Genesis 49, is recited over them. As a symbol of the blessing falling upon the children of Israel, the children are given candy to remind them that the study of God’s Word is sweet.
During the Feast of Tabernacles, each Jewish family participates in the building of a sukkah, or booth. Many families begin construction of their sukkah immediately after the conclusion of the Yom Kippur service. The booth will not be an elaborate structure. Just like the booths of Jesus’ day, they may spring up almost anywhere. Sometimes apartment dwellers choose to help build a sukkah at the synagogue or at the home of friends.
The use of the lulav and etrog is an ancient practice that dates from the time of the second Temple. The lulav and etrog are also call the four species – citron, palm, myrtle, and willow. The identification of the four species is based on Leviticus 23:40: “And you shall take for your yourselves on the first day the fruit of beautiful trees, branches of palm trees, the boughs of leafy trees, and willows of the brook...” The etrog, or citron, remains a separate entity, but the branches are bound together around one palm branch and called the lulav.
The etrog is a yellow citrus fruit about the size of a lemon, but not as sour. For generations, as the Jews celebrated the Feast of Tabernacles, they held the lulav in one hand and the etrog in the other, waving them in all four directions, north, south, east, and west.
Over the years, in an effort to understand why God commanded this ritual, the Jews have ascribed various meanings to the four species. One belief is that all four species cannot exist without water, and the Feast of Tabernacles did include prayers for rain to ensure the next year’s harvest. Another idea is that the four species represent Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph, or that they represent four classes of Jews. The first class, represented by the tasty, fragrant citron, is made up of those Jews who have knowledge of the Torah and do good deeds. The palm date has taste, but no smell, so it represents Jews who know the Torah, but do not practice good deeds. They myrtle has aroma, but no taste, so it represents Jews who perform good deeds but do not know the Torah, and the willow has neither taste nor aroma, so it portrays Jews who neither know Torah nor do good deeds.
I believe, however, that the true meaning is found in the way these items are used in the Sukkot ceremony. At the beginning of the ceremony, the etrog is held upside down and in the opposite hand, but by the end of the service it is turned right side up and joined with the lulav.
I believe that the citron may represent the Gentiles who have been brought into a covenant with God through Jesus Christ. As Paul wrote in Ephesians, at one time we were “without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who were once far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ” (2:12-13 NKJV).
During a contemporary celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles, a Jewish family will eat a holiday meal in the sukkah they have prepared. The mood is relaxed and happy more like a picnic than a religious ritual. After blessings for wine and bread are recited, the head of the home will say a special blessing for Sukkot: ”Blessed art Thou, O Lord our God, Ruler of the universe, who has set us apart by Thy commandments and commanded us to celebrate in the sukkah.”
Local congregations may hold special Sukkot services on the first two nights of the festival, in which participants wave lulavs while reciting the praise psalms. If weather permits, some families may choose to sleep in their sukkah.
The eighth day of the festival, Shmeni Atzeret (the Eighth Day of Assembly), is set apart as a Sabbath and a holy assembly. Why? Ask any devout Jewish parent – on the eighth day, Jewish baby boys take the sign of Abrahamic covenant through circumcision (Genesis 17). So, too, with Jesus. Scripture tells us that when “eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb” (Luke 2:21 NKJV).
If there is one thing we can learn from the contemporary Jewish observance of Sukkot’s eight-day service, it is that God’s Word must be honored. How many Christians do you know who make a practice of reading the Bible through each year? How many church members would rise up and circle the sanctuary seven times while the pastor carried a copy of the Word of God in his arms?
The Word of God is worthy of our veneration, respect, and study. The Old Testament promises and prophecies are still valid and important for us to understand. Jesus said, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled” (Matthew 5:17-18 NKJV).
My friend, we must return our attention to the study of the Bible, God’s holy Word. These treacherous times require it, our love for God compels it. May we join with the Jews during Sukkot as they say, “How sweet are Your words to my taste, Sweeter than honey to my mouth!” (Psalm 119:103 NKJV).
Hear the command of Paul: “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV). Now answer this question: If you read the Word of God ten minutes each day and watch television seven hours, who is Lord of your life? Hollywood or the Holy Spirit?
The law of the Lord is perfect,
Converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure,
Making wise the simple;
The statutes of the Lord are right,
Rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure,
Enlightening the eyes.
Psalm 19:7-8
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KWEEL! University "Professors" of Anti-American Disinformation Targeted -- Sola Scriptura, 20:04:17 09/21/02 Sat
Anti-U.S. Profs Targeted (from NewsMax.com)
Professors "who fan the flames of disinformation, incitement, and ignorance" and "actively dissociate themselves from the United States" are in the cross-hairs of a Web site that monitors their rantings and ravings and publishes them on the Internet.
According to Scott Smallwood of the Chronicle of Higher Education, The Middle East Forum has created a new Web site that lists faculty members it is monitoring and allows students to report on their professors who display an anti-Israel bias and denigrate the U.S.
The Middle East Forum, a Philadelphia-based think tank, has announced the new site, called Campus Watch
http://www.campus-watch.org
where organizers say they plan to monitor and gather information "on professors who fan the flames of disinformation, incitement, and ignorance." The site targets professors who "actively dissociate themselves from the United States."
Among the eight academics already cited for mention by Campus Watch is Rashid Khalidi, a professor of Near East languages and civilization at the University of Chicago, for dedicating his study of the Palestine Liberation Organization to "those who gave their lives during the summer of 1982 ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and the independence of Lebanon."
Another academic among the eight listed, M. Shakid Alam, was cited by the Boston Herald for shocking Northeastern University with a defense of a suicide bomber
The dossiers of the eight professors include short biographies and reprints of a variety of materials - articles about the professors, as well as letters to editors and essays written by the professors themselves.
In response to Campus Watch, Khalidi said the effort "could have a chilling effect if people allow themselves to be intimidated." Campus Watch, he added is part of a "well-financed campaign of black propaganda."
Another of the listed professors, Hamid Dabashi, chairman of the department of Middle East and Asian languages and cultures at Columbia University, said the project seeks to create fear that students will be spying on professors. That won't affect him, he said, but it could be a "horrible development" for junior faculty members. "In the tenure culture, it could be damaging to the healthy relationship that has to govern the classroom," he said.
Others, including the Muslim Public Affairs Council, suggest that the project is "basically a hate Web site" and that posting "dossiers" on faculty members amounts to a blacklist. And some professors who are listed on the site are denouncing it as hateful and inappropriate.
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has anyone told dorki dori that she is a blind, lost, demented HELLBOUND soul lately? -- dorki dori is a blind, lost, demented HELLBOUND soul, 11:25:59 09/18/02 Wed
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Re: has anyone told dorki dori that she is a blind, lost, demented HELLBOUND soul lately? -- She must have deleted it - 'cuz that's THEIR opinion, ya see, 23:32:47 09/20/02 Fri
Author: gerard
Date Posted: 23:44:11 09/20/02 Fri
That selective choice of deletions is lame.
If you don't agree with a topic fine...but manipulating which threads stay and go...and NOT because of foul language etc...which is understandable...but is not the case here...and you delete because YOu want to censor.....well Dori...not much to respect there.
Good intentions?...hogwash.Either allow something or don;t that is understandable...otherwise...don't expect respect.
Insults to follow I am sure....but I don't care.
Don't leave what you like that i say and delete the rest...delete ALL I say then for one thought is not independent of the other.
That is borderline dishonest in my view...even if your intentions are not as such....doesn't matter.
So...don't say I concur and then delete some threads...for it shows you are not being true to what you are saying...OR...you wouldn't have to delete then because heck we would be agreeing RIGHT?...makes sense.
Wow”
Some of them are finially catching on to the REAL doris.
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Re: has anyone told dorki dori that she is a blind, lost, demented HELLBOUND soul lately? -- dori's Delete Button is Connected to Her Hypocrisy Button *, 12:27:37 09/21/02 Sat
.....and her BRAIN is connected to her belly button. Or was that her DEWEY BUTTON?
Proverbs 11
The Folly of Wickedness
1 Dishonest scales are an abomination to the LORD,
But a just weight is His delight.
2When pride comes, then comes shame;
But with the humble is wisdom.
* doritos: The double-dealing style of management of your forum "is an abomination before a Holy Father." But keep amusing us with your parasitic fawning over someone who claims YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN! It is entertaining. Pass the popcorn. smootch.
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PORCINE HIPPO-CRISY JACKALS STYLE - Char is Right Again! -- Did Willa Tell You To "Be a Bishop?", 09:51:53 09/21/02 Sat
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Subject: Re: That's SAK, Alright
Author: Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 10:30:23 09/21/02 Sat
In reply to: Char 's message, "Re: That's SAK, Alright" on 10:30:23 09/21/02 Sat
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:17:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rev. Jack Howell" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Still At It, I See!
To: nonamer4christ@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
CC: mkear@xxxxxx.xxx
Char, I am only going to tell you this ONCE, so you had better listen, and listen good, do you understand? LEAVE ME ALONE. STAY OFF MY BOARDS. DO NOT FOLLOW ME FROM BOARD TO BOARD. If I have to get an injunction against you, make no mistake about it, I WILL DO SO. YOU WILL CEASE AND DESIST SLANDERING ME. YOU ARE TO NOT TO MAKE MENTION OF ME, MY NAME, OR MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO ME IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!
I am sorry it has to be this way, but your obsession must be dealt with. I urge you to seek help in dealing with your obsession with me.
Sincerely,
Jack
Rev. Jack Howell
Bishop,
Pentecostal Faith Assemblies, Inc.
Phone: 1-405-706-6730"
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Can WE say “Falling On The Floor Laughing Our Cute Fannies OFF!!!!!!!”
GET SERIOUS!!!
BTW, Rt. Rev Whoopie Cushion: Doesn't that make it the THIRD time you have “told Char it was the LAST TIME you weren’t gunna warn her again, and again, and again?” You cracked and worthless empty vessel?
Say: just so we get this right....you can lie, slander, malign, and act unto the Devil to anyone and everyone “In the Name Of Jesus!” With your ill begotten false title……..
......BUT.....hold the phone, here,-------all the Universe ceases to exist if WHAT GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND TO JACKALS FRONT DOOR?????? Is that YOUR GAME, Rt Rev.?
GROW UP & Get an independent life away from your mamma you are a stench before a Holy God!
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A Re-Post From Tamarisk -- Booda, 20:18:35 09/20/02 Fri
An interesting article. I have read numerous articles the past 10 years or so, concerning these two presidents. They both allude to their religious upbringing, but does their daily walk match their talk?
I just finished reading an article where GWB believes he has a mandate from G_d to invade Iraq and oust Saddam. This is were visions can get you into trouble, if not securely rooted in the Word of G_d. I do believe this will be the last great battle before the real start of WW III. It may have already started from a technology standpoint and we are just waiting for the shooting to start.
From reading the info from PFAI, Rt Rev and his ministry certainly has a Vineyard-Lighthouse Movement flavor. I have attended a few of these events here locally and they have all the footprints of Mormonism. They may as well have said they had a vision such as Joseph Smith. Sounds about the same.
What I will try to do is something I do with supicious ministries such as PFAI. I heavily check their links page to see who and what they have aligned themselves with. I will also send missives along my network in Texas, Ohio, etc., and see if there is any info on them.
Also, I have sent out reports on my receiving a strange visit from the phone repairman on 13 Sept. It was strange because I did not request service. In fact, there is not even a phone hooked up in my place. I only have the line for dial-up service. I don't have a cell because I am aware it can be used as a tracking device since it is little more then a two-way radio. It should be interesting to find out where this repair request was initiated.
Just Jackals demons sending out emails over his anointed keyboard again. lol!!
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Checking Into PFAI -- Sola Scriptura, 20:27:11 09/20/02 Fri
Went to PFAI to see what they recommend. Here tiz………
UNDER THE HEADING “GREAT CHRISTIAN LINKS!”
Ministry Helps
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET:
” The page cannot be displayed”
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“Revealed Truth Ministries” (Anybody want to buy a bridge?)
”The outstanding online ministries of the Rev. Jack Howell! He is fearless in his opposition of heresy and tireless in his crusade for truth! Stop in a say hello to Rev. Jack Howell!” (I’d rather eat a bug, thanks)
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The Rev. Cherie Carroll – Ordained
(Note: a woman “Reverend.” There is no other contact information for her!)
Waynesburg, Kentucky
Cherie Carroll's Bible Study Web Page
THIS IS WHAT APPEARS FOR HER SITE ”Oops! You might be lost...
The page you requested either no longer exists or is under construction.
Go to the home page to choose another page or search this site.”
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Alan Smith's Site
”A veritable cornucopia of Spirit-filled Christian Stuff!”
The page cannot be found
….OOPS! The spirit filled stuff bit the weenie!
Scene from The JERK (appropriate!)….. As Steve Martin and Bernadette Peters bemoaned after they went bankrupt (also appropriate!) and they were reposing ALL their household belongings ”Oh NO! NOT our STUFF!
Looks like Alan Smith’s Site (ASS) got “it” kicked and they took his STUFF! FOFL
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Beyond Jack’s “church” listed on PFAI, and Dake’s site listed, along with Jack’s liverwurst; there is only one other site besides those BOMBS listed above.
That site's author states: :It unashamedly includes many references to supernatural happenings, healings, visions and divine encounters.”
About George Fox the heretic, the site says: ” he accomplished a great work for God”
It also offers books by Ian Paisley, D.D., surprisingly, who I have quoted and it never fails to REALLY fire up doris. Paisley is an Irishman who hates the popery and does not mince words in his passionate exposures of the Whore of Babylon! I am certain that she is unaware….well, she will always be UNAWARE….
Jack has listings on his various sites with these splashy titles such as the next sermon’s title that lead no where. He has links that have been “UNDER CONSTRUCTION!” since eternity’s-past which have never been removed. Other pages with fake titles and nothing inside (like those above). He also claims all these associated ministries, however without any proof or contact info. Remember, this is the flake that accuses others of not giving their emails!
His code of conduct reminds me of the Sarah Winchester House in California. Right down to the “spirits” residing in them. She was the heiress to the Winchester rifle estate.
”In 1884, a wealthy widow named Sarah L. Winchester began a construction project of such magnitude that it was to occupy the lives of carpenters and craftsmen until her death thirty-eight years later. The Victorian mansion, designed and built by the Winchester Rifle heiress, is filled with so many unexplained oddities, that it has come to be known as the Winchester Mystery House. …………… stairs that lead to the ceiling are just one of the many
bizarre features that Mrs. Winchester designed and had built.”
http://www.winchestermysteryhouse.com/
Mrs. Winchester cavorted with “spirits” just like Rt. Rev. She conducted séances and invited the occult. She believed that if she ever stopped building on this mammoth home, she would die! So, just like Jackles’ website false endeavors, Sarah had her 24-hour team of construction workers build doors that lead to no where. They built staircases that looked great, but went to the ceiling. Mounted doors on the wall, so that when you opened the door, there was a literal wall of bricks. Just like the spirit and methodology of Rt. Rev. Whoopie Cushion’s web sites.
PFAI: All Spooks and Hallo-Weinies!
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Why Does Jackers Remind Me of Bill Clinton? -- just asking, 23:44:00 09/19/02 Thu
Thursday, Sept. 19, 2002 5:55 p.m. EDT
Kathleen Willey on 9/11: A Tale of Two Presidents
[White House whistle-blower Kathleen Willey shares her thoughts on the 9/11 anniversary, and how Presidents Bush and Clinton spent that day, exclusively with NewsMax.com]:
Last Wednesday, September 11, I spent the morning at the VA hospital here in Richmond. My husband, a former Marine who served in Vietnam, had a 9 a.m. appointment and I went along with him because I did not want to be alone that morning, of all mornings.
I waited in the cafeteria, intent on drinking a cup of coffee and reading the newspaper. A television was on, the volume rather low, and I could see that the ceremony marking the one-year anniversary of the attack on the WTC had begun. I wanted to see and hear better so I moved up closer to the television.
It was then that I noticed that a large crowd was assembling, inching closer as I was. Someone turned up the volume. As I stood there, I began to notice the other people, mostly men, around me. They were all vets and by their ages, I was able to tell in which conflict they served.
The most elderly fought in WWII, those a little younger in Korea. Those closer to my age had been in Vietnam and I assumed that the younger men participated in Desert Storm and Somalia. There were a few women in the crowd, wives of WWII vets and some younger women who had served next to the men in the most recent conflicts.
These vets were from all walks of life, young, old, black, white, amputees lying on hospital gurneys, others in wheelchairs attached to IVs. No one spoke. Their silence spoke volumes. They were there for each other.
I heard a muffled sob from one of the vets and I watched as the man next to him put his arm around his shoulder to comfort him. There were a lot of unabashed tears, but it was their knowing silences that struck me. They had seen the horrors of war. Some came home changed men. The Vietnam vets came home to shame and ridicule, forced to carry their guilt in silence.
They were a fraternity of men that morning, a band of brothers, knowing the pain in each other's eyes. They took care of each other, unashamedly.
I thought about their mothers, sending their boys into battle and how gut wrenching that must have been. I thought about the mothers and fathers, brothers, sisters and spouses who buried their soldiers, their lives forever changed.
But I saw something else in those vets, those old soldiers that morning of September 11. I saw pride. They stood tall in the knowledge that they had served this wonderful country of ours. They stood tall for those among them who could no longer stand. I felt honored to stand in their midst that morning of September 11. They were heroes, one and all.
Then something happened, something I did not expect. Rudy Giuliani began to read the names of those who lost their lives that day in a slow and measured tone so that each and every name could be clearly heard. More dignitaries recited more names as we stood there in that cafeteria.
We were riveted to that screen. We watched and we listened and we cried.
Hillary Clinton stood at the podium and began to speak more names. I watched as those brave men around me turned their backs to the television and began to walk away. Many shook their heads in disgust, but no one spoke. They did not have to.
As I stood there, practically alone, I wondered if she was remembering those victims of the Puerto Rican terrorists, the innocents who were maimed or lost their lives years ago.
Did she grieve for them too? Did she feel any guilt at all that she had played a hand in their release during her Senate campaign? Was she ashamed for her husband, who had released them?
I doubt it. After all, she was running for senator. She deserved to win, at any and all costs. I was reminded of their mantra, "Anything it takes." I was reminded of the words of our past president to his adviser, Dick Morris, at the height of the Monica mess: "We'll just have to win." Anything it takes.
That evening my husband and I participated in a ceremony of remembrance at the courthouse green of our little town. Dignitaries spoke, the choir sang, children stayed close to their parents.
A young Boy Scout played taps. Our American Legion members, my husband among them, held a flag ceremony. They stood tall and at attention. They saluted our flag, for which they had fought. I watched the tears well up in their eyes. I felt their pride.
We lit our candles and sang "God Bless America." We said our goodbyes to the victims of 9/11 and looked to the future with a new resolve and newfound patriotism. I thought about our President and his First Lady.
They had attended ceremonies of remembrance that day too and comforted those many, many survivors of the horrors of a year ago. They had asked that the cameras be held back at a respectful distance so that their words to each other could be somewhat private.
I thought about their last visit of the day at Ground Zero. They walked hand in hand down that long ramp to what will forever be the final resting place of thousands of lost souls. Their tears were genuine. Their words were real.
I thanked the good Lord for this good man and this good woman who are leading us now. I thanked Him for our President's strength of character and I thanked Him for his wife who stands by his side, strengthening his resolve to lead us through these dark days yet to come.
When we returned home, we watched a concert on television. The music was comforting and soothing to our jangled nerves, filled with words of patriotism and pride, a somehow fitting end to a very long and hard day.
Soon after, as I was turning off the lights and locking the doors, I glanced back at the television only to see our former president, sauntering onto the set of the David Letterman show. Joe Cool, talking about his music room in Chappaqua. This day of all days, the one-year anniversary of the worst terrorist attack to befall us. An attack that just may not have occurred had our former president been paying attention.
There he was for all to see with nary an apology in sight, in our faces once again, drawing still more attention to himself on this most solemn of days. Could he not have found the decency to stay away just this once?
I cried more tears that night before I fell asleep. I asked forgiveness for lending my time, efforts and resources to a man who became our president and the woman who went to the White House with him.
I know now that they were undeserving of our honor and respect. They brought shame to that great house. And once again, I was most thankful for this good man and this good woman who live there now.
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Re: Why Does Jackers Remind Me of Bill Clinton? -- tamarisk, 13:11:30 09/20/02 Fri
An interesting article. I have read numerous articles the past 10 years or so, concerning these two presidents. They both allude to their religious upbringing, but does their daily walk match their talk?
I just finished reading an article where GWB believes he has a mandate from G_d to invade Iraq and oust Saddam. This is were visions can get you into trouble, if not securely rooted in the Word of G_d. I do believe this will be the last great battle before the real start of WW III. It may have already started from a technology standpoint and we are just waiting for the shooting to start.
From reading the info from PFAI, Rt Rev and his ministry certainly has a Vineyard-Lighthouse Movement flavor. I have attended a few of these events here locally and they have all the footprints of Mormonism. They may as well have said they had a vision such as Joseph Smith. Sounds about the same.
What I will try to do is something I do with supicious ministries such as PFAI. I heavily check their links page to see who and what they have aligned themselves with. I will also send missives along my network in Texas, Ohio, etc., and see if there is any info on them.
Also, I have sent out reports on my receiving a strange visit from the phone repairman on 13 Sept. It was strange because I did not request service. In fact, there is not even a phone hooked up in my place. I only have the line for dial-up service. I don't have a cell because I am aware it can be used as a tracking device since it is little more then a two-way radio. It should be interesting to find out where this repair request was initiated.
Just Jackals demons sending out emails over his anointed keyboard again. lol!!
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Gelly Beeee the steadfast compromiser -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 12:23:17 09/19/02 Thu
GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Wednesday September 18, 2002 at 13:15
RE: "Why don't you correct Margaret when she is wrong in her interpretation?"
Margaret and I have been through this issue over and over again. We agree that neither of us will ever be able to change the others viewpoint. We agree to disagree and continue to be civil to each other. My personal likes or dislikes don't enter into anything here.
(*Gelly Beee, you still don't get it! Margaret's heresies, nor your failure to oppose them are about "personal likes or dislikes"! It's about The TRUTH! You continue to show your lack of backbone by compromising the Truth for the sake of political correctness and a false peace.
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Still MORE Evidence That Rt. Rev. is an LIAR & Unstable SOCIOPATH -- Jack is Passing GAS --- AGAIN!, 19:17:47 09/18/02 Wed
”Rest assured, the culprit WILL be caught and dealt with accordingly. Thanks to a tip, I have good information as to who it was who impersonated me, and that individual will be hearing from me. Flappy Jowells is CLUELESS! This is the same person who told him SAK is named EDWARD ADAMS!!!! Or was dat Arnie Edwards? Aronstein?? I GOT IT!!! His name is "BONANZA"!!!!!
Yo! I thought Jackals had teamed up with “Ossifer” Krumpkie Strickland of the Royal North Carolinian Mounties to put an “end” to “EDWARD ADAMS!” YOU FOOL HOWELL!
Then explain this! ”The IP number: UG2-P3600-107.hort.ncsu.edu/152.1.76.61 belongs to North Carolina State University. It's SAK, alright. He apparently does not have his own computer and relies upon State-owned computers.” Could he possibly have PERMISSION??? HUMMM? Jack asses!
This PROVES Rev Jack is a LIAR who’s forever full of HOT GAS! FOFL&L&L!
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Re: Still MORE Evidence That Rt. Rev. is an LIAR & Unstable SOCIOPATH -- Miguel de Cervantes, 20:10:40 09/18/02 Wed
Author: Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 13:34:17 09/15/02 Sun
"I am working on getting Tamarisk's gossip board shut down, as I mentioned previously."
JACK HOWELL IS A STARK RAVING IDIOT!!! His rigging is loose and he never has a moments rest from his fruitless turmoil. He is like Don Quixote charging the wind after windmills! FOOL!!!!!
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Re: Still MORE Evidence That Rt. Rev. is an LIAR & Unstable SOCIOPATH -- Poor Jack is CLUELESS!, 01:24:15 09/19/02 Thu
Poor Jack can't post his twisted sister "logic" over here, and it makes his demons bent out of whack.....hahahahahahaha! I love it.
Have Willa kiss it.
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Re: Still MORE Evidence That Rt. Rev. is an LIAR & Unstable SOCIOPATH -- tamarisk, 08:55:12 09/19/02 Thu
Youse C. This all matters to the Rt Rev and his demons within. Jackals, as a Spirit-Filled wannabe needs to justify his "calling." His "calling" however, is from Hell.
The Rt Rev "works" at keeping the Truth from going forward. However, the Bible clearly states:
Dan 12:10
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
(KJV)
Daniel, even though the recipient of this revelation, did not fully comprehend it. Over 2500 years later, we, as Born Again, Bible Believing Christians, have a much better idea of what these prophesies mean and how they will transpire. We have this knowledge because we have the writings of the Prophets and New Testament teachings as well.
Jackals, on the other hand, tries to skew the truth with a Charismatic/Third Wave/Vineyard-Lighthouse Movement brand of spiritual and moral relativism and "disinformation." When there is "revelation," it must be proven according to the Holy Word of G_d and NOT from the random ramblings from the MIND of some deluded, self-appointed "man of god."
Jackals reminds me of Blind Bats, Rank Fools, Mere Jesters. Tragically, the ignorant, unruly and rebellious masses have little or no regard for G_d ahd His prophetic Word. Therefore, they are blinded and cannot possibly unravel these endtimes mysteries. The Jackals/Dorito contengient are like blind bats, flying and frittering to and fro, banging into the rock walls of dark caves, their radars disabled.
Likewise, the "Pastors, Priests, and the(for)Profit" elite, who control the masses called the "Church in AmeriKa" today, are themselves deceived in darkness. The Jackals of this world exalt themselves in cult like fashion as "all-knowing, all-ommipotent and all-wise. But they are, in fact, rank fools--mere jesters. The Jackals of this world have no idea they are up against supernatural powers which they shall NOT be able to fend off. Their doom is sealed for they refuse to repent of their evil works.
The real "high calling" is for the remnant of this world. It is the very elect having the high honor to be the real "Spirit-Filled" Christians of today. G_d alone instills insight in His people a precious knowledge, an ability to see through the maze and steer clear of the gauntlet of lies that confront each of us daily.
But knowing the truth places upon us a grave responsibility. It is our assigned task to spread this truth far and wide, to awaken as many as will listen. We must do our work NOW while there is still time, for surely, "the night cometh," when no man can work.
This is why I find it no small task to preach out against the heretical teachings of the Modern Charismatic/Word of Faith/Name it and Claim it movements. I thank Almighty G_d for this high calling, giving Him the praise and the glory,
In the Mighty Name of HaShem Y'shua HaMechiach, The Lord Jesus, The Messiah.
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jack howell is blinded by his hate for the One True God, the Holy One of Israel -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 12:00:39 09/19/02 Thu
jack howell can easily blow smoke up dumb dori's tailpipe, while dumb dori blows smoke up demon jack howell's tailpipe.
However, the reality of the situation is that demon jack howell doesn't have a clue, and is totally wrong in everything he says.
jack is still controlled by the same demons who he invited into his house when jack was a wiccan witch, except, they brought back some of their friends to inhabit his house.
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jack howell is blinded by his hate for the One True God, the Holy One of Israel -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 12:01:23 09/19/02 Thu
jack howell can easily blow smoke up dumb dori's tailpipe, while dumb dori blows smoke up demon jack howell's tailpipe.
However, the reality of the situation is that demon jack howell doesn't have a clue, and is totally wrong in everything he says.
jack is still controlled by the same demons who he invited into his house when jack was a wiccan witch, except, they brought back some of their friends to inhabit his house.
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How Beezle-Bubba Became "Bishop" In One Prayer of Less -- Booda, 19:23:05 09/18/02 Wed
Hi Gang! Saw this and had to respond. Hope all is well!
TAMARISK says: ”I can't remember how Rt Rev said he came about becoming a Bishop. Me tinks he must have been painting the ceiling of his parents bathroom, slipped, and hit his punkin' heed on his china god. Thus, he received a revelation he should appoint himself a Bishop.” LOL!
I pictured him SITTING on his THRONE, eating a banana and peanut butter sandwich, reading Bait and Tackle. But what do I know? Why does this scene come to mind???
1 Kings 18
26So they (Holy Joe Purple Robed, BIG Phylactery Howellings) took the bull given them (him), dressed it, and called on the name of Baal (his deity) from morning until noon, saying, O Baal, hear and answer us (ME!.....”answer me in tha name offff baaaaaaal! Damn it!”) But there was no voice; no one answered. And they (tha holy reverend) leaped upon or limped about the altar they (he made FOR SHOW!!!)
1 Kings 18 (with various versions – is has Rev. Whoopie Cushion’s cloven hoofs all over it)
26So they prepared one of the bulls and placed it on the altar. Then they called on the name of Baal all morning, shouting, "O Baal, answer us!"
But there was no reply of any kind.
Then they danced wildly around the altar they had made.
27About noontime Elijah began mocking them.
"You'll have to shout louder," he scoffed, "for surely he is a god!
Perhaps he is deep in thought, or he is relieving himself.
Or maybe he is away on a trip,
or he is asleep and needs to be wakened!" NLT
"Answer us, Baal!" But there was no answer.
27At noon, Elijah began making fun of them. "Pray louder!" he said. "Baal must be a god. Maybe he's day-dreaming or using the toilet or traveling somewhere.
Or maybe he's asleep, and you have to wake him up." CEV
At noon Elijah mocked them, saying, Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is musing, (LOL) or he has gone aside, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened. AMP
LOL!
To answer your question about “how he became bishop” This PFAI – “ PENTECOSTAL FAITH ASSEMBLIES, INC.” http://www.pfai.faithweb.com/index.html
Under Article 2 – Purposes of PFAI it states:
”This Religious Corporation shall have the right to possess, buy, mortgage, sell, lease, barter and exchange real and personal property, to borrow money, to collect funds, receive gifts and legacies as it may judge necessary for the attainment of these purposes, all in accordance with this Constitution and the Bylaws, or as the same may be changed or amended hereafter.”
>b>WHERE DO THESE MONIES GO & WHO ADMINISTERS THEM, UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY, OR ACCOUNTABILITY DOES IT MAINTAIN TO IT’S DONERS???
ANSWER:” Article 3 – Management: The management of this Association - Spiritual, Religious, Educational and Temporal - shall rest in the divinely called and duly consecrated Bishop assisted by the ordained clergy and other appointed officers,
as needed” !!!!!. wink- wink! ……”No property of this organization shall be sold, mortgaged, leased, rented or given away without the same shall be approved by the Bishop.”
wink-wink-wink CLOUSEAU!!!!!
HOW DID PFAI COME ABOUT? (YULE Like This….and Reverend Whoopie Cushion Likes YULE, spelled “YULE”……tee-hee….idiot said that we spelled it wrong! Well, ya think, Jethro?)
”In 1989 an anointed prophet of God recounted a vision to another minister during a Pastor's Meeting at Red Rock, Oklahoma. She said, "I don't know why God is having me share this with you, but I had a vision and in this vision I could see the United States from coast to coast. The whole land lay in darkness. Suddenly, a lighthouse began to emerge from the gloom in Oklahoma. Wherever the light from this lighthouse was shed abroad, other lighthouses began to spring up. And then where they shed their light, still others popped up and they began to spread north, south, east and west until the whole land was covered in light from sea to sea."
Lighthouse? Again there are those who would say he mis-understood her to say BRICK OUT HOUSE! LeRoy. ( brings us back to I Kings 18!)
His ordination? According to him the “former” (I believe that was “Bishop Kear” without checking my notes) “former” bishop of this PFAI scam, “was leaving PFAI” Jack prayed, this “bishop” prayed….VOILA! They decided that Jack Howell should be a bishop too. The former “bishop” made Jack “bishop”! End of Story. “Cept the “former” Bishop Kear still is the contact for speaking engagements. AND NOW Jack “ordains” others as “bishop”! Before yer know it we will be up to our rear ends in bishops!
PFAI’s three “officers” are basically his personal “pastor” of a small church, and two friends.
Then there are the PFAI members: one guy is said to be ” is an Evangelist with a prophetic anointing.” ….another: ” Rev. LaDell Elliott, Prophet/Evangelist….. is a choice instrument of the Holy Spirit. He is an anointed Prophet of God with an evangelistic outlook. LaDell knows that the power of God is a very present and tangible reality there. Souls are saved. People are delivered. The Sick are healed. The miraculous presence of the Risen Christ flows freely! If you are interested in having an "Old Time Pentecostal Revival" in your Church or city, please contact Rev. LaDell Elliott by emailing the Bishop's Office - then Get Ready! Get Ready! Get Ready! ” Yip. Yip. Yip. Yip-YAHOO! Y’ALL!!!
A closing thought: one of the folks on his officer staff of THREE is photographed in front of ELEVEN FRAMED Certificates/”diplomas” (???) Jack has as an affiliate, a WOMAN “ordained minister” And another guy involved with this pile of POOP has been “ordained” for about a year, prolly “ordained” by Rt. & Lft. Rev. Whoopie Cushion!
“May the FORCE be with ‘em.” FOFLMCFO!
For Jackals
TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 107.
Sec. 107. –Copyright Fair use RIGHTS…..
DEAL WITH IT! Revy Beezle-Bubba
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Nomura Takasumi -- Tsunami! Kia Bunga, 20:52:50 09/17/02 Tue
HOLY ORDERS Nomura Takasumi!!! Now WE can ALL be bishops! Start your own confessional. Pass out cookies! OR, by popular demand you can also become a Knight! How's this? Bishop Knight Nomura Takasumi?
Now you and your goldfish can become holy reverends just like Jack Howell!!! The Universal Ministries will ordain anyone that requests ordination, online or through postal mail. Go here:
http://www.universalministries.com/doctrine.cfm
Here's the good part, shipping will not be charged on certificates or id cards, no matter how many you order. Isn't that marvy?
Holy Catfish! Just think what this means, now everyone…..even dori, can be ordained and she can even hear her own confession! We can finially put an end to all the needless envy by becoming titled just like Reverend Bishop Holy Smokin’ King-Cat-Daddy Howelling
See ya at the next pot luck Rev. Takasumi. Or Round Table, which ever suits your style.
Marvy.
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Re: Nomura Takasumi -- elvira, 21:06:25 09/17/02 Tue
" Without the proper understanding of your congregational needs, you as a newly Ordained Minister may cause more harm than good. Which, of course, goes against our Doctrine. If you have a well-rounded sales ability and an excellent grasp of the sacred doctrine you teach, this may not seem necessary to you. Most people that receive instant Ordination do not have such enlightenment. Being Ordained makes many feel automatically superior to their fellow man. Yes, you have a title. Yes, you have the right to be referred to by that title. You are a Reverend, a Minister, a Holy Joe, a Priest, a Shaman, or a Rabbi, but most of us have little idea what these really mean."
YEP! that's where he went! same doctrine 4 sur.
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Re: Nomura Takasumi -- tamarisk, 08:30:19 09/18/02 Wed
Dudes and Dudettes.
There are many "ministries" like the one you mentioned. I can become a DD, MBA, Phd, etc., if I have enough money.
I can't remember how Rt Rev said he came about becoming a Bishop. Me tinks he must have been painting the ceiling of his parents bathroom, slipped, and hit his punkin' heed on his china god. Thus, he received a revelation he should appoint himself a Bishop.
If Jackals was into honesty, he would just fall in line with his Ultra-Charismatic beliefs and doctrines(Third Wave Pentecostalism/Vineyard and Lighthouse Movement/A Wimberite), and anoint hisself an apostle or prophet. Then, he can become a true follower of Kenneth Hagin.
In the Charismatic lineage:
Hagin and Ramah Ministries, begat Kenneth Copeland
Copeland begat Creflo Dollar,
and so on.
I must, if I could remember the name, include the man who sat in the tower stating G_d was going to take him home if he didn't get millions of bucks from gullible peoples.
Jackals teachings all lead to him as the final "authority," and NOT the Bible. After sitting in a Vineyard conference(with press credentials) given by Dr. Larry Bates and Unraveling the New World Order, many things come to light.
The "apostle" laid his "prayer cloth" upon the pastor of the local church sponsoring this event. Thus, this pastor, by virture of his "anointing" becomes an apostle.
This is why I was NOT "saved" in a Charismatic/Pentecostal/Spirit-Filled Church. I attended a number of churches of Pentecostal flavor, early on in my walk, BEFORE I was saved, the Bible way. While attending one Sunday evening service, I "felt led" to go kneel at the alter and pray. After a while, the pastor of the church knelt down beside me. As he stated, "there are tears coming down your cheeks." This, as I later found out, was his sign that I was "repentant" and ready to "accept the Lord."(as if tears(works) can save you)
He then laid hands on my forehead and started speaking in some unknown tongue. I found out later, I was supposed to "exhibit" my "salvation" through repentance by speaking in an unknown tongue. Would I have been considered "saved" at that point? NO! The only thing that could really save me was to be "water baptised"(a perversion of Acts 2:38) with the evidence of speaking in tongues after coming up out of the water.
I stayed in that church long enough to witness 2 water baptisms. I carefully observed the coaching of the Deacon "performing" this. I emphasis performance because it is a carefully scripted play. There is a rehearsal, a coaching of what to say and how to say it when coming up out of the water.(i.e. speaking in tongues)
Of course, there are witnesses to this. The pastor and the congregation are there but NO ONE to interpret what is being said. Charismatic/Pentecostals throw out important scripture here. Oh! They will state something to the effect of--"If you want to pick apart "our" doctrines, lettuce have you stand on this scale here and check your weight." This, of course, comes back to their depection of works and what they consider gluttony.
Again, the Doritos and Apostle Jackals are all about moral and spiritual relativity and NOT about the sound, pure doctrines of the blessed Apostles of the Lord.
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Nomura Takasumi & Frankie Lloyd -- elvira, 23:57:26 09/16/02 Mon
To Nomura Takasumi
Here's some humor
to bring a chuckle
to your
normal neurotic
tendencies experienced by all those with
a persistent sense of humor.....
News of the day according to elvira.....
Everything had been going along routinely for medical students Kambiz Butt, 25, said Ayman Gheith, 27, and Omar Choudhary, 23, when they rolled into the Georgian town of Calhoun, East of Sapphire, somewhere between Amos and Benson to the local Andys restaurant. While eating the Kingfish special, they were purportedly overheard making terrorist threats. I think it had something to do with the lousy Remoulade sauce, and whether those green thingies were really capers.
Kambiz Butt, 25, who was raised on his father’s camel farm, had been hoping to turn his favorite hobby of recreational proctology into a full time occupation as a medical specialist at the Dade County Hospital for indigent boat people in Florida.
The waitress, obviously a Georgian Stool Pigeon, up end-ed what would have been a promising Proctology career for Dr. Butt and his two Islamic friends majoring in psychiatry. They claim that their whole conversation that afternoon was about their plans to open a clinic together upon completion of their Florida studies and were in fact deciding on names for their Psychiatry & Proctology Clinic over their lime jello.
Dr Butt wished the clinic’s name to be fairly straight forward: "Psychiatry and Proctology." was his suggestion.
Omar weighed in with his name: "Hysterias and Posteriors". Avman had his own ideas for :" Schizoids and Hemorrhoids".
Someone at the next table eating a Chile-Size with extra onions suggested: " Catatonics and High Colonics."
Omar and Avman had by now changed their minds and demanded either: "Minds and Behinds" or "Analysis & Anal Cysts"
Dr. Kambiz Butt changed his to: "Nuts & Butts"
THEN they all began chattering at once:
"Nuts & Butts"
"Freaks & Cheeks"
"Loons & Moons"
None of these could be jointly accepted so they finally settled on
"Omar’s -- Odds & Ends"
However, since the Miami hospital says it no longer will accept the three Muslim medical students, they have just decided to become suicide bombers instead.
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Re: Nomura Takasumi & Frankie Lloyd -- elvira, 19:03:17 09/17/02 Tue
FROM Doktor Doris: "LOL! Getting him to actually engage in a converstaion is rare, too. He seemed to take to Sola and SAK, though. hmmmm*-)"
I dunno bout, you Nomura, but I jus never HAD a pet rock before and didn't quite know how to start a conversation.
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 13:20:02 09/17/02 Tue
From the looney bin called PP.
BAMOUILAMBOB
In Response To Ctaj
Monday September 16, 2002 at 19:00
"RE:"Imagine a bunch of devout Christians deciding to attend, say, a Southern Baptist Convention, where one of the speakers presents a how-to seminar on how to blow up abortion clinics and how snipers can take out abortion doctors."
What an asinine thought!! In the first place, there have been no Christians found to be guilty of any of those types of activities. Secondly, if a person was to be guilty of arson or murder, they could not be a Christian. It is far more likely those activities are done by people of the liberal persuasion to bring bad press to any who would disagree with their murder. Particularly since the press is a willing co-conspirator."
BamBob, for those not remembering, used to make hit and run posts at R1 concerning myself and other fundamentalist posters. He has a real problem with the truth.
First of all, you CANNOT rightfully be called a Born Again, Bible Believing Christian NOT believing on the precious blood stained Cross of Calvary and a risen Savior.
You do have choices in life. You can choose to be in concert with the heretical registered, 501 c 3, NWO/One World Church crowd. You can go a whoring after other godz of Romanism, Mormonism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. You can follow cultish teachings of false and wrong doctrines from Hell. You can accept state licenses to minister and to marry. You can also accept the Neo-Conservatism lie.
OR NOT! You are not compelled to follow any of those above, false ways contrary to the sound, pure teachings of the Apostles of the Lord.
Bammers must think the 50-100 million executed during the Dark Ages, the Inquisition of the RCC, were not saved due to their lack of obedience to the bought and paid for gooberments of that day. Bammers will be one of many, who will give sound approval at the coming wholesale arrest and destruction of true Christian Patriots.
I know of a number of Christian Brothers and Sisters in prisons in AmeriKa because of their belief and testimony for Jesus Christ. Bammers must not know any real Christians willing to go to prison for the truth. It is happening in AmeriKa today.
I was taught by a pastor in Ohio who preached a strong message on the streets, in front of bloody execution chambers called abortion clinics. He would tell you his personal belief is the "workers" there should be dragged out and put on trial before the Common Law Court and those wicked places burned to the ground. I do not believe, however, he would actually shoot a baby killer in the head or burn down a clinic.
I'd like to know who among those long winded, gas bag "Christians" over on PP(or R1, for that matter) who have stood in front of those wicked places and NOT believed that should be the fate of it. Either you will stand for something or yule fall for anything. ;)
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hey all, I like the new board @www.voy.com/73052/ -- Lurkus XIX, 12:58:29 09/17/02 Tue
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I see they have spotted jack howell as a minister of Satan at www.voy.com/73052/ -- harry ticks like jack are easy to spot, 13:00:35 09/17/02 Tue
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 12:01:50 09/17/02 Tue
The differences between us.
'ATTITUDES' OF NEW EVANGELICALISM
1. Disdain toward its fundamentalist heritage
2. Optimism about reaching and winning non-religious conservatives
3. Softer and less precise view of doctrine, with emphasis on the importance of love over doctrine.
4. Willingness to use the world's methods to attract the unsaved
5. Lack of personal separation standards
6. Friendliness toward contemporary scientific views
7. Willingness to accept Charismatic views and/or practices 8. Tolerance toward various eschatological positions
9. Reaction against Scofield Bible dispensationalism
10. Enchantment with contemporary scholarship and intellectualism
11. Softness toward non-conservative views of the Bible
12. Stress upon the need for social concern
13. Desire to cooperate with and work with non-evangelicals in religious matters.
[Dr. George Houghton, 7-8/02 Foundation]
'ATTITUDES' OF BIBLICAL FUNDAMENTALISM
1. Belief that doctrine is important
2. Belief that certain doctrines are fundamental or essential to Christianity
3. Literal interpretation of the Bible
4. Recognition of dispensational distinctions within a premillennial system of theology
5. Belief that religious liberalism is not Christianity
6. Unwillingness to cooperate with or coexist with religious liberalism
7. Emphasis upon preaching, evangelism and missions
8. Distrust of secular higher educational philosophy and institutions
9. Personal commitment to holiness and godly living.
[Dr. George Houghton, Foundation]
Fundamentalists not only separate from unbelief and compromise but also warn about false doctrines and teachers. (See Eph. 5:11, e.g.)
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Checking a Heretic's Source: http://www.tbm.org/heresy.htm -- Hasn't EVERYONE Seen Jesus?????, 10:31:11 09/17/02 Tue
Re-POST:
VAIN Jangler Jack Howell says THIS:"Here is an
interesting article about a Pastor's encounter with a
so-called "heresy hunter." The "heresy hunter" sounds
just like "Sola" and "SAK" who do not know the Word of
God, but misuse and abuse it!
http://www.tbm.org/heresy.htm"
These are from HIS source whom he endorses. Let's take
a brief look at Jack Howell's discernment
regarding who he feels is BIBLICALLY SOUND.
TOM BROWN SAYS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:
What does Jesus really look like?
by Tom Brown
”By the grace of God I was privileged to see
Jesus Christ in a vision.”
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about his book: “Tom Brown teaches you how to take
God’s Word, believe it correctly, and confess it out
of your mouth properly in order to predict your
future. As you read this book, you will find out...
* How to prophesy your future
* Why your words are powerful
* How to believe for your healing
As you learn to discern God's will for your life,
you will develop the ability to predict your
future.
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"Apparitions of Mary:" (His wife is Latina AND
Co-Pastor of his church he has a section about women
being pastors!)
”Acclaimed pastor, Tom Brown, discusses not only
this apparition but the apparitions of the Miraculous
Medal and Fatima in a special cassette tape. In this
teaching you’ll learn:
* The messages behind these apparitions
* How biblical prophecy fits into these apparitions
* How to discern a true apparition from a false one
* Why there will be more apparitions
* The true meaning behind the name Guadalupe
.......the link above has these quotes in their
entirety, this is a cafeteria of false teachings at
this site!
I TIMOTHY 1
3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I
went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some
that they teach no other doctrine,
4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies,
which minister questions, rather than godly edifying
which is in faith: so do.
5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a
pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith
unfeigned:
6 From which some having swerved have turned aside
unto vain jangling...
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Gee, Jackie Jangler who would ever guess they would call YOUR friend a "HERETIC!" Doesn't EVERYONE claim to have SEEN JESUS and ARE ABLE TO PREDICT THE FUTURE?????
People like Sola Scriptura and SAK-47 are off base for EXPOSING the Tom Browns and Reverend Whoopie Cushion's HERESY! Who told them to uphold Biblical teachings!!! HARUMPH!
What's the world of apostate, fraudulent ministries coming to with the SAK-47's and Sola Scriptura's of this world exposing their FRAUD??? INDEED! No wonder Jackie got his drawers in a wad!
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BUTT PRINTS IN THE SAND -- conch, 15:56:38 09/16/02 Mon
BUTT PRINTS IN THE SAND
One night I had a wondrous dream,
One set of footprints there was seen,
The footprints of my precious Lord,
But mine were not along the shore.
But then some stranger prints appeared,
And I asked the Lord," What have we here?"
Those prints are large and round and neat.
"But Lord, they are too big for feet."
"My child," He said in somber tones,
"For miles I carried you alone.
I challenged you to walk in faith,
But you refused and made me wait."
"You disobeyed, you would not grow,
The walk of faith, you would not know,
So I got tired, I got fed up.
And there I dropped you on your butt."
"Because in life, there comes a time,
When one must fight, and one must climb,
When one must rise and take a stand,
Or leave their butt prints in the sand."
author unknown
………….in the case of cheesy doritos and The Right & Left Cheeky Reverend Whoopie Cushion, there had better be a backhoe standing by on call to fill in the four craters they will leave – cuz we don’t want anyone to fall in and be injured.
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When Tamarisk Speaks the Truth It Ticks Jack Off -- LOL!, 15:21:31 09/16/02 Mon
Below are the types of unvarnished posts from Tamarisk that really tick Jack off! His demons give him no rest. He is clueless as to who owns this forum and how many of us post here. He gets his info from doritos. So what does that tell ya? He will have the "INTEGRITY" to tell her to her face that "there isn't a single Christian posting on that whole forum" and that he doesn't think she's a "Christian" when he doesn't need her forum any more. Then when she gets mad at him, she won't be able to block him. grin. smile. chortle. wink-wink. guffaww!!!
TWO RE-Posts from Tamarisk:
"Exactly. Which is why I only posted there a few times.
The usually demons named Dorito, Rt Rev et al., will
not let true discussion go forth. This is the crux of
Neo-Evangelicalism today. Their rules change
constantly to meet and feed their prideful demon
spirit and to further their own moral and spiritual
relativism."
"A case in point is Rt Rev and his belief I operate a
Voy forum. I DO NOT! And, his discernment meter is
broken, too! lol!!"
(Note: Jack is clueless! He thinks SAK is EDWARD ADAMS!!!!! And That There are only three of us over here......LOL!)
"I am not currently operating a forum. The pastors and
church that trained me would question my spending all
my time on the net and not preaching on the streets of
my town, etc. I receive support from them and,
therefore, am accountable to them and NOT to Jackals
or his mind controlled RC minion, Dorito."
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"Your copywrite, your website, along with your testimony is meaningless, TO ME! You will be the point of discussion on my call in segment on world wide shortwave radio soon. It's called What's Right/What's Left and is the ministry of Doers of the Word Baptist Fellowship. A REAL NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH. Unregistered, Independent and KJV Only."
"I enjoy discussing latent Roman Catholics, such as yourself.
Iff'in you'd like to post the snail mail addy of your church, I'll give the world a harry-tic report of you."
"Jack, in closing tonight, you remind me of a person named Martin Ruddock. He made the same threats as you do. Martin Ruddock is a baby raping, baby executionist,(in your PC world, he's an abortionist) made constant threats against me and other Bible Believing Christians protesting out on the sidewalk in front of his abortuary. I spend over 2 years out front of his wicked place."
"Your "threats" mean about as much to me as Ruddocks as I place you on the same level as he."
"Tomorrow Jack, I will give my testimony on why I was NOT saved in a Pentecostal/Charismatic/Third Wave Pentecostal(Vineyard-Lighthouse) church and why I believe they are nice but deceived by Pragmatism; on their way to an eternity in Hell because of lying pastors and preachers."
.....thanks Tamarisk!
keep reading here Reverend Whoopie Cushion wee's gunna re-post yer sickening "testimony" with all dat commentary you likes soooo well. Keep watchin for dat. And by-the-way, it's a good thing you have all those demons to talk to, cuz if it weren't for them, you wouldn't have anyone to talk to at your forums. They are pitiful!!! No wonder youz be called the VAIN Jangler. chio.
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This Speaks for Itself! -- Let The Light Shine!, 21:39:30 09/14/02 Sat
Subject: "Trinity On Trial" Is Gone!
Author: Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 04:48:30 09/14/02 Sat
“Voy has deleted that demonic, evil board.”
RECORD OF POSTS - NUFF SAID.
The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 05:54:28 09/08/02 Sun
• The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 2) -- Rev. Jack Howell, 05:56:38 09/08/02 Sun
The Deity of Jesus Christ According To The Scriptures
Rev. Jack Howell 05:52:23 09/08/02 Sun
Jesus - Created or Creator?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:50:59 09/08/02 Sun
Is Jesus Michael The Archangel?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:48:32 09/08/02 Sun
The Judgment Seat of Christ
Rev. Jack Howell 05:41:04 09/08/02 Sun
Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning The Chastening of The Lord
Rev. Jack Howell 05:39:45 09/08/02 Sun
Expect To Receive From God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:38:24 09/08/02 Sun
Satan: Destroyer of Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:37:05 09/08/02 Sun
The Power of Love
Rev. Jack Howell 05:35:59 09/08/02 Sun
The Benefits of Repentance
Rev. Jack Howell 05:34:53 09/08/02 Sun
Seeking God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:33:52 09/08/02 Sun
7 Stumbling Blocks To Faith and Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 05:32:42 09/08/02 Sun
Steps For Operating In The Supernatural
Rev. Jack Howell 05:31:27 09/08/02 Sun
Trusting God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:30:11 09/08/02 Sun
Truth - Trust - Triumph!
Rev. Jack Howell 05:29:04 09/08/02 Sun
Getting An Understanding of The Things of God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:27:41 09/08/02 Sun
3 Essentials To Victorious Christian Living
Rev. Jack Howell 05:26:09 09/08/02 Sun
God's Word Overcomes Worry
Rev. Jack Howell 05:24:58 09/08/02 Sun
The Truth About True Worship
Rev. Jack Howell 05:23:53 09/08/02 Sun
What Glorifies God?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:22:15 09/08/02 Sun
Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning Their Authority
Rev. Jack Howell 05:20:49 09/08/02 Sun
Having An Effective Prayer Life
Rev. Jack Howell 05:19:07 09/08/02 Sun
The Secret of Victory Over Sin
Rev. Jack Howell 05:17:45 09/08/02 Sun
Abraham - Promise Fulfillment By Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:16:26 09/08/02 Sun
A Study of Proverbs 10
Rev. Jack Howell 05:15:02 09/08/02 Sun
Our Enemies: The World, The Flesh, and the Devil
Rev. Jack Howell 05:13:30 09/08/02 Sun
The Benefits of Wisdom
Rev. Jack Howell 05:11:51 09/08/02 Sun
Casting Out Demons
Rev. Jack Howell 05:10:40 09/08/02 Sun
Speaking With New Tongues
Rev. Jack Howell 05:08:55 09/08/02 Sun
Signs of The Lord's Protection
Rev. Jack Howell 05:07:48 09/08/02 Sun
How To Minister Healing To The Sick
Rev. Jack Howell 05:06:38 09/08/02 Sun
The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 05:54:28 09/08/02 Sun
• The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 2) -- Rev. Jack Howell, 05:56:38 09/08/02 Sun
The Deity of Jesus Christ According To The Scriptures
Rev. Jack Howell 05:52:23 09/08/02 Sun
Jesus - Created or Creator?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:50:59 09/08/02 Sun
Is Jesus Michael The Archangel?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:48:32 09/08/02 Sun
The Judgment Seat of Christ
Rev. Jack Howell 05:41:04 09/08/02 Sun
Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning The Chastening of The Lord
Rev. Jack Howell 05:39:45 09/08/02 Sun
Expect To Receive From God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:38:24 09/08/02 Sun
Satan: Destroyer of Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:37:05 09/08/02 Sun
The Power of Love
Rev. Jack Howell 05:35:59 09/08/02 Sun
The Benefits of Repentance
Rev. Jack Howell 05:34:53 09/08/02 Sun
Seeking God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:33:52 09/08/02 Sun
7 Stumbling Blocks To Faith and Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 05:32:42 09/08/02 Sun
Steps For Operating In The Supernatural
Rev. Jack Howell 05:31:27 09/08/02 Sun
Trusting God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:30:11 09/08/02 Sun
Truth - Trust - Triumph!
Rev. Jack Howell 05:29:04 09/08/02 Sun
Getting An Understanding of The Things of God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:27:41 09/08/02 Sun
3 Essentials To Victorious Christian Living
Rev. Jack Howell 05:26:09 09/08/02 Sun
God's Word Overcomes Worry
Rev. Jack Howell 05:24:58 09/08/02 Sun
The Truth About True Worship
Rev. Jack Howell 05:23:53 09/08/02 Sun
What Glorifies God?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:22:15 09/08/02 Sun
Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning Their Authority
Rev. Jack Howell 05:20:49 09/08/02 Sun
Having An Effective Prayer Life
Rev. Jack Howell 05:19:07 09/08/02 Sun
The Secret of Victory Over Sin
Rev. Jack Howell 05:17:45 09/08/02 Sun
Abraham - Promise Fulfillment By Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:16:26 09/08/02 Sun
A Study of Proverbs 10
Rev. Jack Howell 05:15:02 09/08/02 Sun
Our Enemies: The World, The Flesh, and the Devil
Rev. Jack Howell 05:13:30 09/08/02 Sun
The Benefits of Wisdom
Rev. Jack Howell 05:11:51 09/08/02 Sun
Casting Out Demons
Rev. Jack Howell 05:10:40 09/08/02 Sun
Speaking With New Tongues
Rev. Jack Howell 05:08:55 09/08/02 Sun
Signs of The Lord's Protection
Rev. Jack Howell 05:07:48 09/08/02 Sun
How To Minister Healing To The Sick
Rev. Jack Howell 05:06:38 09/08/02 Sun
Subject Author Date
The Prayer of Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:04:57 09/08/02 Sun
The Prayer of Unity
Rev. Jack Howell 05:03:40 09/08/02 Sun
Take Back What The Devil Has Stolen!
Rev. Jack Howell 05:02:29 09/08/02 Sun
How To Study The Bible
Rev. Jack Howell 04:59:58 09/08/02 Sun
The Necessity of Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 04:58:36 09/08/02 Sun
Asking Gets Answers
Rev. Jack Howell 04:57:22 09/08/02 Sun
Intercessory Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 04:55:53 09/08/02 Sun
Fasting
Rev. Jack Howell 04:54:36 09/08/02 Sun
7 Reasons Why Faith Is Important
Rev. Jack Howell 04:53:24 09/08/02 Sun
How To Operate In Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 04:51:57 09/08/02 Sun
Guidance
Rev. Jack Howell 04:50:32 09/08/02 Sun
Healing
Rev. Jack Howell 04:49:08 09/08/02 Sun
The Power of Praising God
Rev. Jack Howell 04:47:39 09/08/02 Sun
Worship
Rev. Jack Howell 04:46:07 09/08/02 Sun
Tithes and Offerings
Rev. Jack Howell 04:44:55 09/08/02 Sun
Evangelism
Rev. Jack Howell 04:43:14 09/08/02 Sun
The Devil
Rev. Jack Howell 04:42:03 09/08/02 Sun
Trials and Tribulations
Rev. Jack Howell 04:40:40 09/08/02 Sun
Overcoming Sin
Rev. Jack Howell 04:39:17 09/08/02 Sun
God's Forgiveness
Rev. Jack Howell 04:38:12 09/08/02 Sun
End-Time Events (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 04:36:33 09/08/02 Sun
End-Time Events (Part 2)
Rev. Jack Howell 04:35:10 09/08/02 Sun
Eternal States
Rev. Jack Howell 04:33:51 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 1: Being Born Again
Rev. Jack Howell 04:31:48 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 2: Assurance of Salvation
Rev. Jack Howell 04:29:59 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 3: Christ's Death For Us
Rev. Jack Howell 04:28:18 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 4: Water Baptism
Rev. Jack Howell 04:26:23 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 5: Baptism With The Holy Ghost
Rev. Jack Howell 04:24:59 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 6: Speaking In Tongues
Rev. Jack Howell 04:23:02 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 7: The Local Church
Rev. Jack Howell 04:21:25 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 8: Communion
Rev. Jack Howell 04:20:01 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 9: Understanding The Trinity
Rev. Jack Howell 04:18:27 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 10: The Importance of Bible Study
Rev. Jack Howell 04:16:09 09/08/02 Sun
Subject Author Date
The Prayer of Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:04:57 09/08/02 Sun
The Prayer of Unity
Rev. Jack Howell 05:03:40 09/08/02 Sun
Take Back What The Devil Has Stolen!
Rev. Jack Howell 05:02:29 09/08/02 Sun
How To Study The Bible
Rev. Jack Howell 04:59:58 09/08/02 Sun
The Necessity of Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 04:58:36 09/08/02 Sun
Asking Gets Answers
Rev. Jack Howell 04:57:22 09/08/02 Sun
Intercessory Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 04:55:53 09/08/02 Sun
Fasting
Rev. Jack Howell 04:54:36 09/08/02 Sun
7 Reasons Why Faith Is Important
Rev. Jack Howell 04:53:24 09/08/02 Sun
How To Operate In Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 04:51:57 09/08/02 Sun
Guidance
Rev. Jack Howell 04:50:32 09/08/02 Sun
Healing
Rev. Jack Howell 04:49:08 09/08/02 Sun
The Power of Praising God
Rev. Jack Howell 04:47:39 09/08/02 Sun
Worship
Rev. Jack Howell 04:46:07 09/08/02 Sun
Tithes and Offerings
Rev. Jack Howell 04:44:55 09/08/02 Sun
Evangelism
Rev. Jack Howell 04:43:14 09/08/02 Sun
The Devil
Rev. Jack Howell 04:42:03 09/08/02 Sun
Trials and Tribulations
Rev. Jack Howell 04:40:40 09/08/02 Sun
Overcoming Sin
Rev. Jack Howell 04:39:17 09/08/02 Sun
God's Forgiveness
Rev. Jack Howell 04:38:12 09/08/02 Sun
End-Time Events (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 04:36:33 09/08/02 Sun
End-Time Events (Part 2)
Rev. Jack Howell 04:35:10 09/08/02 Sun
Eternal States
Rev. Jack Howell 04:33:51 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 1: Being Born Again
Rev. Jack Howell 04:31:48 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 2: Assurance of Salvation
Rev. Jack Howell 04:29:59 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 3: Christ's Death For Us
Rev. Jack Howell 04:28:18 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 4: Water Baptism
Rev. Jack Howell 04:26:23 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 5: Baptism With The Holy Ghost
Rev. Jack Howell 04:24:59 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 6: Speaking In Tongues
Rev. Jack Howell 04:23:02 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 7: The Local Church
Rev. Jack Howell 04:21:25 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 8: Communion
Rev. Jack Howell 04:20:01 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 9: Understanding The Trinity
Rev. Jack Howell 04:18:27 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 10: The Importance of Bible Study
21:29:15 09/07/02 Sat
End Time Events (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 21:27:04 09/07/02 Sat
• End Time Events (Part 2) -- Rev. Jack Howell, 21:28:48 09/07/02 Sat
Witnessing/Evangelism
Rev. Jack Howell 21:24:47 09/07/02 Sat
God's Forgiveness
Rev. Jack Howell 21:22:28 09/07/02 Sat
Divine Guidance
Rev. Jack Howell 21:20:39 09/07/02 Sat
Divine Healing
Rev. Jack Howell 21:18:41 09/07/02 Sat
Communion
Rev. Jack Howell 21:16:48 09/07/02 Sat
Jack Your Mother's Calling you - Jammy Time - Let the adults talk now
To Turn Off The Cut & Paste Machine & Feed your Hamster
21:15:21 09/07/02 Sat
The Local Church
Rev. Jack Howell 21:14:40 09/07/02 Sat
Trials and Tribulations
Rev. Jack Howell 21:12:29 09/07/02 Sat
Tithes and Offerings
Rev. Jack Howell 21:10:24 09/07/02 Sat
Worship
Rev. Jack Howell 21:08:53 09/07/02 Sat
PRISONERS TO OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR
Tips on Dealing With Insane Who Have Delusions of Grandeur
21:07:48 09/07/02 Sat
Fasting
Rev. Jack Howell 21:06:57 09/07/02 Sat
Asking Gets Answers
Rev. Jack Howell 21:05:03 09/07/02 Sat
The Prayer of Intercession
Rev. Jack Howell 21:03:13 09/07/02 Sat
The Necessity of Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 21:01:27 09/07/02 Sat
The Importance of Bible Study
Rev. Jack Howell 20:59:32 09/07/02 Sat
How To Operate In Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 20:58:02 09/07/02 Sat
Seven Reasons Why Faith Is Important
Rev. Jack Howell 20:56:28 09/07/02 Sat
Rev. Jack Howell 04:16:09 09/08/02 Sun
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For The Dorism File Under: I Have More Intelligent Rocks in My Landscape! -- dorki, 21:48:58 09/14/02 Sat
The world's FIRST Living brain doner, Dr. Doris says this:
"Chances are Rev. Jack posted a tenth of what was posted by him at Trinity on Trial. The same with me. That's why they got rid of that sinkhole to hell.
Who in the world can have a disucssion in a room full of yammering crows? "
INDEED!
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Re: For The Dorism File Under: I Have More Intelligent Rocks in My Landscape! -- tamarisk, 13:44:03 09/16/02 Mon
Exactly. Which is why I only posted there a few times. The usually demons named Dorito, Rt Rev et al., will not let true discussion go forth. This is the crux of Neo-Evangelicalism today. Their rules change constantly to meet and feed their prideful demon spirit and to further their own moral and spiritual relativism.
A case in point is Rt Rev and his belief I operate a Voy forum. I DO NOT! And, his discernment meter is broken, too! lol!!
I am not currently operating a forum. The pastors and church that trained me would question my spending all my time on the net and not preaching on the streets of my town, etc. I receive support from them and, therefore, am accountable to them and NOT to Jackals or his mind controlled RC minion, Dorito.
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Counterfeit Bishop Howell Is a STRANGER To the Truth & Record -- Exposing Vain Janglers - jingle jingle jingle, 06:56:43 09/16/02 Mon
Let’s take Jack BACK to school and re-examine what was said and NOT afford him the opportunity to CONFUSE and DISTORT and MISREPRESENT the FACTS.
My post:” VAIN Jangler Jack Howell says THIS: ….."Here is an interesting article about a Pastor's encounter with a so-called "heresy hunter." The "heresy hunter" sounds just like "Sola" and "SAK" who do not know the Word of God, but misuse and abuse it!
http://www.tbm.org/heresy.htm"
The above post was the Vain Jangler’s original post in its entirety.
Here is the MAIN POINT I was addressing in my subsequent post:
" sounds just like "Sola" and "SAK" who do not know the Word of God, but misuse and abuse it!
http://www.tbm.org/heresy.htm"
Two sentences. What did he say? VAIN Jangler is stating that Sola and Sak ”MISUSE and ABUSE SCRIPTURE!” He is ALSO inferring that this “Pastor’s” Biblical acumen is SOUND compared to our application. Any logical person sees that.
In an effort to divert attention from the REAL salient point of my post, Jack once AGAIN does what he always does to distort the facts as all deceivers do; and CONFUSE a very simple premise that is LOGICALLY to be gleaned from his original post.
VAIN Jangler beginning response: ”Let's see now. On the basis of one article dealing with Brown's encounter with a heresy hunter, Sola ASSUMES that I endorse all of Pastor Brown's teachings. That is one big problem with the so-called heresy hunters. They make assumptions that have no basis in fact, then present their assumptions as fact while ignoring all the evidence to the contrary.” blah. blah. blah…. (off down some bumpy road of murky confusion and dialectical tactic)
No. the ASSUMPTION WAS THAT HIS SOURCE HAS SOUNDER BIBLICAL ACCUMEN THAN SAK & SOLA. PERIOD.
HERE'S THE POINT:
IF JACK IS GOING TO HOLD OTHERS UP TO RIDICULE AND SUGGEST THAT A CERTAIN “PASTOR SO&SO” IS A “VICTIM” OF PERSONS SUCH AS SAK AND SOLA SCRIPTURA’S ”ALLEGED ABUSE AND MISUSE OF SCRIPTURE......
IT IS ABSOLUTELY FAIR GAME AND ESSENTIAL THAT THIS SUPERIOUR PASTOR’S BIBLICAL ACCUMEN AND BELIEFS BE EXAMINED WITH THE SAME SCRUTINY HE USES FOR OTHERS! – YOU BETCHA!
….and anything else he was frothing about is not worth the time to sift through. We will continue to expose his sources and his error without being sidetracked by his games and misrepresentations.
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How Susceptible Are You to False Teachings? - Quiz -- I'm a Berean, 22:12:55 09/15/02 Sun
Now that dori played with the lollypop quiz of GellyBee's, here's one she won't fare well on.
How Susceptible Are You to the Apostate? - Quiz #1 from DITC
Statement #1 There will be a great awakening and worldwide revival in the last days.
A)True
B)False
Statement #2 The Toronto "Blessing" and Brownsville "Revival" are different moves of God and are not connected.
A)True
B)False
Statement #3 Modern-day prophets need not be 100% accurate in their prophesies.
A)True
B)False
Statement #4 The Bible is God's revelation but God is still giving revelation today through apostles and prophets that may be new revelation not found in Scripture.
A)True
B)False
Statement #5 All Christians should join together in ecumenical/interfaith unity to promote world peace and evangelism.
A)True
B)False
Statement #6 A Christian cannot be demonized in any way.
A)True
B)False
Statement #7 The Toronto "Blessing" and Brownsville "Revival" and other churches associated with this movement have some weird manifestations but basically they are a good thing.
A)True
B)False
Statement #8 All diseases and disabilities are demonically caused.
A)True
B)False
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answers another time
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How Susceptible Are You to Vain Janglers & Their Apostate Teachings? - Quiz #2 -- I'm a Berean, 22:12:24 09/15/02 Sun
How Susceptible Are You? - Quiz #2 (forget this one dori! hon)
Deception in the Church
Statement #1 The anointing of the Holy Spirit is transferable from person to person.
A)True
B)False
Statement #2 It is easier for a person to receive the anointing of the Holy Spirit if they stop analysing so much and open their minds.
A)True
B)False
Statement #3 The apostles and prophets of the last days are equal to or greater than the apostles and prophets of Biblical times.
A)True
B)False
Statement #4 Those who question or oppose the latter day apostles and prophets are cursed.
A)True
B)False
Statement #5 Manifestations of the anointing of filling of the Spirit include: laughing, crying, shaking, running around the building, fast dancing, running, etc, followed by collapse; barking-howling, trances, drunkenness, falling out, oinking, being "hot", fanning self or blowing, walking like chickens, high pitched whine reminiscent of a lively horse, mooing and crowing, swimming in the spirit-on the back and also breast stroke style,women going through imaginary birth pangs, loss of conciousness, trying to soar like eagles, hissing and moving like a snake, inability to speak and involuntary body spasms, kung fu-like stances, vomiting in the spirit and holy head-banging, and stripping.
A)True
B)False
Statement #6 God used the force of faith to speak the universe into existence.
A)True
B)False
Statement #7 Since we are sons of God what we speak or declare on earth will be brought to pass by God by the force of faith.
A)True
B)False
Statement #8 The reason for revival today is that God is tired of Christians feeling so icky about themselves and He therefore has chosen to bless His church by throwing a revival party.
A)True
B)False
Statement #9 God is breaking down all denominational and religious divisions in preparation for His second coming.
A)True
B)False
Statement #10 Those who have received the anointing are spiritually superior to those who have not.
A)True
B)False
Statement #11 The Holy Spirit is both the "agent" and the "substance" of power in the Christian life.
A)True
B)False
Statement #12 Feelings are a good way to validate objective truth.
A)True
B)False
Statement #13 If you can find one verse to confirm something you already believe in Scripture, that is enough to validate your belief.
A)True
B)False
Statement #14 Positive testimonies are a good indication that God is doing a work of revival.
A)True
B)False
Statement #15 Intercession should be done by exclusively using your personal prayer language, only to worship and praise, not to petition God in any way.
A)True
B)False
Statement #16 "Power Evangelism" produces more converts and mature believers than older style "proclamation" evangelism.
A)True
B)False
Statement #17 Third Wave theology is firmly based on Biblical principles.
A)True
B)False
Statement #18 Christ cannot return to earth until the Church is completely restored to God's miraculous body of expression on earth and the world is predominantly Christianized.
A)True
B)False
Statement #19 The fourth dimension is the dimension of faith.
A)True
B)False
.....answers later.
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Exposing Vain Janglers & Jackals Among the Flock -- by A.W. Tozer, 19:58:01 09/15/02 Sun
This devotional thought, written around a half century ago, for the reason we should continue to say today "to the word and to the testimony"! "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies ..." 2 Pet. 2:1
Spiritual Authority: The Word and the Testimony
by A.W. Tozer, 1950
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies ..." 2 Pet. 2:1
Whatever it may be in our Christian experience that originates outside of Scriptures should, for that very reason, be suspect until it can be shown to be in accord with them.
If it should be found to be contrary to the Word of revealed truth no true Christian will accept it as being from God. However high the emotional content, no experience can be proved to be genuine unless we can find chapter and verse authority for it in Scriptures. "To the word and to the testimony" must always be the last and final proof.
Whatever is new or singular should also be viewed with caution until it can furnish scriptural proof of its validity. Thoughout the twentieth century quite a number of unscriptural notions have gained acceptance among Christians by claiming that they were among truths that were to be revealed in the last days.
The truth is that the Bible does not teach that there will be new light and advanced spiritual experiences in the latter days; it teaches the exact opposite! Nothing in Daniel or the New Testament epistles can be tortured into advocating the idea that we of the end of the Christian era shall enjoy light that was not known at its beginning.
Beware of any man who claims to be wiser than the apostles or holier than the martyrs of the Early Church. The best way to deal with him is to rise and leave his presence!
Copywrite 1950 A. W. Tozer
From "Renewed Day By Day - A Daily Devotional"
Compiled by G.B. Smith, Copywrite 1980
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Re: Exposing Vain Janglers & Jackals Among the Flock -- Solomon, 20:05:16 09/15/02 Sun
To The Apostate Puffed Up & PROUD Mocker
Proverbs 30
31 a strutting rooster, a he-goat,
and a king with his army around him.
32 "If you have played the fool and exalted yourself,
or if you have planned evil,
clap your hand over your mouth!
33 For as churning the milk produces butter,
and as twisting the nose produces blood,
so stirring up anger produces strife."
..........clap your hand over your mouth! Todus Bulbus. You have been BUSTED!
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Vain Jangler Jack & His Fellow Cadre of Vipers -- ekklesia, 23:04:39 09/13/02 Fri
Recommended Reading From The Vain Jangler Jack Site:
”The Believer's Authority by Kenneth E. Hagin (Faith Library)
Something every believer needs to know is their authority in Christ Jesus.
Bodily Healing and the Atonement by Dr. T.J. McCrossan (Faith Library)
A nice, concise theological work on the relationship between the atonement and bodily healing. Edited by Dr. Kenneth Hagin and Dr. Roy Hicks.
The Wonderful Name of Jesus byE.W. Kenyon (Kenyon's Gospel Publishing)
This book along with dozen of others by Brother Kenyon will build your faith and teach you how to overcome in life!
Plagiarism, Kenyon And Links To Word-Faith Unknown Compiler, 1995 Essek William Kenyon plagiarized Kenneth E. Hagin, Sr. and held to virtually the same Word-Faith teachings. These are two men who were influences on the current Toronto "Blessing"/Brownsville "Revival" phenomenon. They are recommended by the Counterfeit revivalist movement proponent Jack Howell.
.Plagiarism, Kenyon And Links To Word-Faith & Two Men Who’s Plagiarized Work Jack Howell Recommends
I TIMOTHY 1
3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling...
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Re: Vain Jangler Jack & His Fellow Cadre of Vipers -- exposing Vain Janglers - jingle jingle jingle, 08:32:25 09/14/02 Sat
to the above link:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kenyon.htm
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Re: Vain Jangler Jack & His Fellow Cadre of Vipers -- exposing Vain Janglers - jingle jingle jingle, 19:46:36 09/15/02 Sun
Vain Janglers is trying to divert attention from his more than 300 copyright violations in one week alone!
Clever devil. It won't work, bunky.
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King Cat Daddy of LIES: FACTS are STUBBORN Thangs -- Lettuce Examine the RECORD, 10:44:35 09/15/02 Sun
From The King Cat-Daddy of Theft & Lies…….
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Subject: "Trinity On Trial" Is Gone!
Author: Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 04:48:30 09/14/02 Sat
“Voy has deleted that demonic, evil board.”
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BTW, shhhhhhh! Don’t tell King Cat-Daddy dat he did not “close ToT” his demons are just messin’ wit his haid ‘gain and hope-in dat we are dum.
THE RECORD OF POSTS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF! (To Intelligent life forms, without a priory)
We have pages of Cat-Daddy's cut and paste record if this is not just sorta condemning to those who don't have blinders on! (wink wink)
…..Our question would be, can anyone illegally infringe on copyright laws and steal intellectual property on a par with King Cat-Daddy who can crank them out at the forum’s MAXIMUM posting LIMIT of one per minute?
I think we ALL have Cat-Daddy’s number. NUFF SAID.
The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 05:54:28 09/08/02 Sun
• The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 2) -- Rev. Jack Howell, 05:56:38 09/08/02 Sun
The Deity of Jesus Christ According To The Scriptures
Rev. Jack Howell 05:52:23 09/08/02 Sun
Jesus - Created or Creator?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:50:59 09/08/02 Sun
Is Jesus Michael The Archangel?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:48:32 09/08/02 Sun
The Judgment Seat of Christ
Rev. Jack Howell 05:41:04 09/08/02 Sun
Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning The Chastening of The Lord
Rev. Jack Howell 05:39:45 09/08/02 Sun
Expect To Receive From God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:38:24 09/08/02 Sun
Satan: Destroyer of Faith
Rev. Jack Howell 05:37:05 09/08/02 Sun
The Power of Love
Rev. Jack Howell 05:35:59 09/08/02 Sun
The Benefits of Repentance
Rev. Jack Howell 05:34:53 09/08/02 Sun
Seeking God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:33:52 09/08/02 Sun
7 Stumbling Blocks To Faith and Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 05:32:42 09/08/02 Sun
Steps For Operating In The Supernatural
Rev. Jack Howell 05:31:27 09/08/02 Sun
Trusting God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:30:11 09/08/02 Sun
Truth - Trust - Triumph!
Rev. Jack Howell 05:29:04 09/08/02 Sun
Getting An Understanding of The Things of God
Rev. Jack Howell 05:27:41 09/08/02 Sun
3 Essentials To Victorious Christian Living
Rev. Jack Howell 05:26:09 09/08/02 Sun
God's Word Overcomes Worry
Rev. Jack Howell 05:24:58 09/08/02 Sun
The Truth About True Worship
Rev. Jack Howell 05:23:53 09/08/02 Sun
What Glorifies God?
Rev. Jack Howell 05:22:15 09/08/02 Sun
Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning Their Authority
Rev. Jack Howell 05:20:49 09/08/02 Sun
Having An Effective Prayer Life
Rev. Jack Howell 05:19:07 09/08/02 Sun
The Secret of Victory Over Sin
Rev. Jack Howell 05:17:45 09/08/02 Sun
Abraham - Promise Fulfillment By Faith
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A Study of Proverbs 10
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Our Enemies: The World, The Flesh, and the Devil
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The Benefits of Wisdom
Rev. Jack Howell 05:11:51 09/08/02 Sun
Casting Out Demons
Rev. Jack Howell 05:10:40 09/08/02 Sun
Speaking With New Tongues
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Signs of The Lord's Protection
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How To Minister Healing To The Sick
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The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 1)
Rev. Jack Howell 05:54:28 09/08/02 Sun
• The "God Kind of Faith" (Part 2) -- Rev. Jack Howell, 05:56:38 09/08/02 Sun
The Deity of Jesus Christ According To The Scriptures
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Jesus - Created or Creator?
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Is Jesus Michael The Archangel?
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The Judgment Seat of Christ
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Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning The Chastening of The Lord
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Expect To Receive From God
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Satan: Destroyer of Faith
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The Power of Love
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The Benefits of Repentance
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Seeking God
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7 Stumbling Blocks To Faith and Prayer
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Steps For Operating In The Supernatural
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Trusting God
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Truth - Trust - Triumph!
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Getting An Understanding of The Things of God
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3 Essentials To Victorious Christian Living
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God's Word Overcomes Worry
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The Truth About True Worship
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What Glorifies God?
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Some Things Christians Must Realize Concerning Their Authority
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Having An Effective Prayer Life
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The Secret of Victory Over Sin
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Abraham - Promise Fulfillment By Faith
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A Study of Proverbs 10
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Our Enemies: The World, The Flesh, and the Devil
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The Benefits of Wisdom
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Casting Out Demons
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Speaking With New Tongues
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Signs of The Lord's Protection
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How To Minister Healing To The Sick
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The Prayer of Faith
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The Prayer of Unity
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Take Back What The Devil Has Stolen!
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How To Study The Bible
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The Necessity of Prayer
Rev. Jack Howell 04:58:36 09/08/02 Sun
Asking Gets Answers
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Intercessory Prayer
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Fasting
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7 Reasons Why Faith Is Important
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How To Operate In Faith
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Guidance
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Healing
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The Power of Praising God
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Worship
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Tithes and Offerings
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Evangelism
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The Devil
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Trials and Tribulations
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Overcoming Sin
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God's Forgiveness
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End-Time Events (Part 1)
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End-Time Events (Part 2)
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Eternal States
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 1: Being Born Again
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 2: Assurance of Salvation
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 3: Christ's Death For Us
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 4: Water Baptism
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 5: Baptism With The Holy Ghost
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 6: Speaking In Tongues
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 7: The Local Church
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 8: Communion
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 9: Understanding The Trinity
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 10: The Importance of Bible Study
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The Prayer of Faith
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The Prayer of Unity
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Take Back What The Devil Has Stolen!.....’ats ah good ‘un King Cat Daddy!
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How To Study The Bible
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The Necessity of Prayer
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Asking Gets Answers
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Intercessory Prayer
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Fasting
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7 Reasons Why Faith Is Important
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How To Operate In Faith
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Guidance
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Healing
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The Power of Praising God
Rev. Jack Howell 04:47:39 09/08/02 Sun
Worship
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Tithes and Offerings
Rev. Jack Howell 04:44:55 09/08/02 Sun
Evangelism
Rev. Jack Howell 04:43:14 09/08/02 Sun
The Devil
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Trials and Tribulations
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Overcoming Sin
Rev. Jack Howell 04:39:17 09/08/02 Sun
God's Forgiveness
Rev. Jack Howell 04:38:12 09/08/02 Sun
End-Time Events (Part 1)
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End-Time Events (Part 2)
Rev. Jack Howell 04:35:10 09/08/02 Sun
Eternal States
Rev. Jack Howell 04:33:51 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 1: Being Born Again
Rev. Jack Howell 04:31:48 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 2: Assurance of Salvation
Rev. Jack Howell 04:29:59 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 3: Christ's Death For Us
Rev. Jack Howell 04:28:18 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 4: Water Baptism
Rev. Jack Howell 04:26:23 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 5: Baptism With The Holy Ghost
Rev. Jack Howell 04:24:59 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 6: Speaking In Tongues
Rev. Jack Howell 04:23:02 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 7: The Local Church
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 8: Communion
Rev. Jack Howell 04:20:01 09/08/02 Sun
Basics For Believers - Lesson 9: Understanding The Trinity
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Basics For Believers - Lesson 10: The Importance of Bible Study
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End Time Events (Part 1)
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• End Time Events (Part 2) -- Rev. Jack Howell, 21:28:48 09/07/02 Sat
Witnessing/Evangelism
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God's Forgiveness
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Divine Guidance
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Divine Healing
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Communion
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Jack Your Mother's Calling you - Jammy Time - Let the adults talk now
Go Turn Off The Cut & Paste Machine & Feed your Hamster
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The Local Church
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Trials and Tribulations
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Tithes and Offerings
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Worship
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PRISONERS TO OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR
Tips on Dealing With Insane Bishops Who Have Delusions of Grandeur
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Fasting
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Asking Gets Answers
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The Prayer of Intercession
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The Necessity of Prayer
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The Importance of Bible Study
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How To Operate In Faith
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Seven Reasons Why Faith Is Important
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Re: King Cat Daddy Sur Knows Hot To Make a Demon FEEEEEL Welcome -- Right Cat Daddy?, 17:59:50 09/15/02 Sun
Oh Lookie!!!! Each of King Cat Daddy’s demons has it’s very own e-mail account! How now brown cow. Rather, Holy Cow…. Jack!
• revjack@revealedtruthmin.org
• revjackhowell@cox.net
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…..now thars sumthun to howellll ‘bout!
Matt 12:43-45
43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.
(KJV)
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Go to: www.google.com and put in 'copyright free images' as a search and you will receive a list of web sites with copyright free images.
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Some Letters to DITC -- Sola Scriptura, 22:24:35 09/13/02 Fri
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Below are some published e-mails from the DITC website they may be of interest in light of the experiences we are all familiar with having dealt with false reverends and hirelings recently.
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I and my husband were members of eagle mountain church assoc. With kenneth copeland. For two years. My spirit is grieved by what I have discovered in the Word about their teachings. I feel so foolish for believing it. We have been robbed. Satan has been allowed entrance into my family. I almost had a mental break down a couple of weeks ago. I asked GOD to show me what was real, and he has. Please believe me when I tell you how sad it is that they are robbing GOD's children. People are giving them every dime they have too. We were told if we didn't, that we were not protected from the enemy. I actually feared for the lives of my family when we left the place. I want people to know how they controlled our minds. Please help.
D.T.
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The Lord brought me out of the Word Faith Movement by: 1 isolating me for nearly a year while He filled me with the Word and 2, by opening my eyes and letting me see the truth of the deception by his grace. Since then I have spoken out against the false teachers and false prophets and you talk about being stoned!! But what the Lord taught me was these False Teachers are looked on as gods by their followers and these deceived sheep must be dealt with in love and mercy, but nevertheless, the truth MUST be spoken and the risk of being 'unpopular' is high yet honorable. So I commend you're work and pray that through your ministry God will use you to reach many many others. God Bless, E.L.
Dear Sandy,
I just read through a few of the FAQ's at DITC. NOW I know why I didn't fall down when I was touched by an evangelist a couple years ago. I was at a Pentecostal Tent meeting the one time, & in their church another. I didn't feel the presence of God, even though everyone was "wired" w/emotion. I thought something was wrong w/me at the time. I'm glad God used it to teach me to worship joyfully w/upraised hands, & protected me from the occult influences I had touched as a teenager. Something just didn't "feel" right about them. Now I know why. I'm glad I found your site, the Sword of the Spirit Apologetics site, & Jacob Prasch's site. I e-mail warnings & info from all of these sites to my friends. A good cure for christian blindness is a bucket full of cold truth. The shock isn't usually appreciated, but the eventual wake-up is. Once the words have been sent, God can go to work on them. Then it's their choice to listen, or eventually get drowned in their precious "River". Thank you for all of the info.
Christ's Love,
D.F.
Dear Sir/Madam
Thank you for your prompt reply. Will get onto that straight away.
Would also like to thank you for the ditc website!!! It has proved invaluable for me researching these false prophets. I have Christian friends who have become involved with the ministries of Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Marilyn Hickey, Joyce Meyer, Rod Parsley, Morris Cerullo.....just to name a few. When I was told about these teachers I did not have a clue about them and it was only by God's grace that another Christian friend of mine told me that they were false teachers so I decided to do some research on them and found your website.
What is really scary is that many eyes are shut to the insidious nature of these false preachers. What is even more scary is when these preachers are exposed and you gently point out that what they are preaching is not the true gospel of Jesus Christ, they usually refuse point blank to listen to the Word of God and often excuse the behaviour of these corrupt preachers. It is almost like these preachers have a hold over them or have brain washed them into twisting the Scriptures to suit themselves.
There are only a few ministries that are willing to take a stand and speak up for the gospel. Who will not ignore and turn a blind eye to these false preachers. Most Christians are afraid that the finger will be pointed back at them and they will be told "who are they to judge". Jesus, Paul, James were not afraid to speak up about false preachers and so we should not be afraid as long as we cling to God's Word and speak His truth.
PRAISE THE LORD for your ministry and I pray that you will always have the courage and the conviction to expose these false leaders.
Yours in Christ Jesus
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Re: Some Letters to DITC -- Jangel's Friends Roll on the Floor & Literally HISS, 08:37:00 09/14/02 Sat
(2) Kenneth Hagin - Serpant Power at The Interactive Bible, 1998
For an clear picture of one of the main influences of the Third Wave, take a real video and audio visit to RHEMA where Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland balspheme God, laugh demonically, roll around on the floor, hiss like snakes, make animal noises, and tell people that the disciples were drunk at Pentecost. This sickening display is also available on video from Paw Creek Ministries. at:
http://www.pawcreek.org/catalog.htm
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dori and her delete button - again -- laugh track, 19:21:53 09/13/02 Fri
….Oh Y-a-w-n-n-n-n……..
”Subject: Did some digging ....
Author: dori
Date Posted: 20:37:36 09/13/02 Fri
...and found a place that rebuilds the messages removed from a forum. Do we keep it or junk it? I'm taking votes. (what a feebleminded imbecile….transparent as ever!)
Ah, yes! Madame forum administrator yielding the P-O-W-E-R of her delete button. Amazing what thrills the slow minded these days. I guess she must seek her arousal in any means possible. What we will watch for next is the FRAUDULENT Counterfeit ”Reverend” finding enough of that INTEGRITY he likes to cut and paste about, to say to dori’s FACE that which he has been announcing all over the web behind her back that he believes: ”dori is NOT a Christian!”
THEN we will be watching the fun when dori tries to exercise the POWER of her delete button on all 400-plus of the false reverend’s Proxy Servers!
Say, doris, where are all your old friends these days? Did revvy and polly wog chase dem off? Hee hee hee. Everyone is having a great time at R1 without you, and are happy you left R1!. Are you going to keep your word and stay away from R1? Or were you just lying like you always do? It has only been a couple of days but just look at how much smoother the board is being run with you. We are not surprised AT ALL! hon. grin. Smootch.
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Re: dori and her delete button - again -- laugh track, 19:34:13 09/13/02 Fri
Author: Nouve Namus
Date Posted: 16:48:13 09/13/02 Fri
"Dr. Doris:
What is the difference, if any, between The Liberty Bell and The Bell Curve?"
he makes me laugh.
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Re: dori and her friend lord byron -- author's post, 22:36:55 09/13/02 Fri
dori
In Response To Gerry
Tuesday September 3, 2002 at 19:06
“I went back to the end of the forum and saw no post of mine using the words you quoted as mine, Gerry. It was Murray and minder's fight, not mine.
I'm choosing you to post my farewell to. It appears I am not really welcome at this site by non-believers OR Christians and I have a lot of things I need to be getting done. Murray's and your treatment of minder was uncalled for and very saddening to me. I no longer wish to participate on a forum with Christians who are so judgmental. Maybe I'll see you at my forum one of these days. You never did let me know if my answers were correct to your quiz. I wish you well, Gerry. God bless!
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"God Bless Gerry! Fur sure. Fur sure. Oh! Gerry! You very, very lucky man. Just think; YOU, of all the local warm bodies, were chosen by an angel of light to be the fortunate one who doris made her regularly scheduled FAKE FAREWELL ANNOUNCEMENT to. Oh! The graciousness of her sweetness. Sola got one two weeks ago. It lasted three whole hours before the banshee-babe, dori was back in style; but with a new handle – ah, yes, doing what doris does better than the best…..being a bung hole. No one but no one can be a bung hole like doris. Bless her dark hort.
Did someone's treatment REALLY "sadden you" Doris, you faker (Hope I spelled dat right!)
READ (this is what dorus-ma-gurkus wants us to say!):
"OH Doris We LUV You! Hon. Hon. Hon. Pleeeeezs don't go, hon. You are the bees knees! You are like the mold on a shower curtain, that grows on us! We love you more than ice scream it's self. I scream. U scream. EVERYbody screams at doris....hum, I THOUGHT that was gunna rhyme. The point was, hon, you make us ALL SCREAM! With chocolate sauce, nuts, and a banana in your ear, and a cherry on top!
Oh PLEEEEEZE Doris. STAY! Have Mercy on us! Whooz gunna gossip, nag us and disrupt our conversations? No one can do it like U…..hon. wink. Grin. Smile. Double winkie, blinkie, and nod. We really didn't mean it (fingers crossed, toes crossed). We LOVE your snotty manipulations. We were just wondering when we could have some more of them. Right gang? Oh, common Ten Megs, give dori a huggie for auntie Connieee.
Your snot has become such an institution to of all of us on the forums you frequent. In fact when you are NOT here we eat BOILED OKRA JUST TO REMEMBER YOU By! Oh! PLEEEEEEZE slime us with your holy SNOT, doris. More slime. More slime. There's no slime like dori's slime.....RIGHT? Coinky?
WE (common everyone join in with me....let's express our feeeeelings for dori. She needs us now in her time of neeeeed!), as WE were just telling her that we love your hypocrisy, your snippy ways, your lies, your games, your sniveling put-on phony suck-ups. Cold noses in our cracks becomes acceptable after all these years. Besides we know of no one else who does the nose in the crack- routine quite like doris can. Nor who WANTS too.
We NEVER, did you hear us? NEVER can see RIGHT through your baloney. We love your face.....ALL TWENTY OF THEM! What's more, we even like your two hundred chins.
Who ever said that you have more Chins than a San Francisco phone book.....eh! WHAT do they know! Smootch. Wink. Grin. Hon. Common, won’t you stay and disrupt the forum for us? We don’t know anyone who is as unpleasant and ugly spirited as YOU, dori, hon. THAT is why you have made such an impression on saints and sinners alike.
You just have a knack.
Knack. Knack.
Who's there?
Doris!
Doris who?
Doris slammed on her tail. Ouch!
…..and we were going to tell her not to let it clobber her on her ample rump as she left!"
To funny, eh sweetie? LOL grin ;-)
God Bless."
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Re: dori and her friend lord byron -- more byronisms, 23:09:25 09/13/02 Fri
Subject: Re: Did some digging ....
Author: Nomura Takasumi (LOL&L!)
Date Posted: 00:32:00 09/14/02 Sat
In reply to: dori 's message, "Did some digging ...." on 00:32:00 09/14/02 Sat
"doris, it really doesn't matter you'll just fark it up any way. LOL grin ;-)
LOL Yo doris! Congrats on achieving your prime objective...creating a low volume chat site. Great job sweet pants!! LOL
Beautiful.
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LOL&L&L&L: wus, Jackie-Lyn & Jazzy-Murr! Did Yer get a kiss. -- dori did you., 13:42:59 09/13/02 Fri
Some demand a kiss when they's bein screwed! LOL!
you mess wit de debil; you get what you get! SMOOTCH*****
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the new board exposing jack howell for the minister of darkness that he is, is located at: -- www.voy.com/73052/, 13:38:45 09/13/02 Fri
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the stupidity at the Regurgitation1 forum continues non-stop -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 12:56:57 09/13/02 Fri
Furry Murrrrr, holding to his hyper-Arminian position that God saves men because they are inherently good and are not deserving of hell, once again completely misses the thrust of the Gospel.
Murray
In Response To All
Friday September 13, 2002 at 10:44
If God's view is that people belong in hell, why would He send his only begotten Son to suffer and die to keep them out of the place?
Hey, Furry Murrrrr, when are you ever going to learn the Truth?
Jesus was sent by the Father BECAUSE sinful man IS deserving of death(hell), to REDEEM them from the pit of HELL. That is called, Grace and Mercy.
Mercy is NOT getting what you deserve(HELL).
Grace is getting what you do NOT deserve(heaven).
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The Trinity on Trial forum will be moved to 2 separate new locations very soon -- new name will be Exposing Fraud's Like demon jack howell, 11:19:01 09/13/02 Fri
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Lilith at R1 -- tamarisk, 09:15:44 09/13/02 Fri
From Lilith at R1
*Coinkydink
In Response To Murray
Friday September 13, 2002 at 8:55
""but you quibble and slightly change the meaning, for example, when Jesus is quoted as calling Himself the only begotten Son of God." In this case, the word translated as "only begotten" actually said "first"... makes a difference to the meaning, doesn't it?
In the case of John the B., why is it so hard to take Jesus literally? Is it because you have a prejudice against it because of the traditional teaching? Or have you actually thought it through?"
Lil' dear, "only begotten" means sole, the only one, The One. "First" implies a second, third, and so on. It is important to understand the difference between the "First Adam" and "The Last Adam." The Last Adam created the first. He was there, in concert and unity, WITH Abba G_d and His Holy Spirit. Nothing was created without Triunity. There will NOT be judgment WITHOUT Triunity.
The Book of Jude states Y'shua is coming again to make things right. Verse 11 is a condemnation against apostates and their heretical teachings from Hell. The typical Kumbaya/Pacadorian/Rt Rev teachings are likened to "worthless spots," "rainless clouds," "fruitless trees" that have been plucked up by the roots, "raging waves" and "wander stars"(out of orbit).
Lil' dear. No were in the Holy Word of G_d, does it ever teach "blessed are the stoopid."
Wake up and repent, before it is too late!
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Dolly -- tamarisk, 08:51:19 09/13/02 Fri
You posted elsewhere, a list of people who have come and gone on the forums over the years. For the most part, they have departed because they could NOT keep there eyez on the message. They want an "all love, 24 hours per day, loving Gospel." They don't want to hear about sin or Hell even though Y'shua preached more on Hell than Heaven. To me, that is an indication far more people are going to Hell, than Heaven.
So, dear one, I would NOT fret over the ones who may have been "driven away." They WILL remember the message some day. They leave because of their own insecurities concerning where they will spend eternity.
Had to laugh at the debacle of the postings at PP last evening. They "talk a good game" on issues such as abortion. However, they lack guts and courage to stand in defense for the unborn. They use Politically Correct terms which sound good to those needed their ears tickled.
I know of a pastor who claims to be a fundamental Baptist. Yet, he pastors a sodomite church in the Dallas area. He left his wife and five children to live with his lover. If you didn't have Biblical Truth of Discernment, you would not know what is going on because he preaches a mainline born-again evangelical message. This is how people fall prey to the Rt Rev's of the world.
We just had our primary elections Tuesday. I was in an such a mood as I DID NOT vote for a single woman. Call me whatever. lol!! There was mudslinging by the female candidate for mayor of my town against another male candidate. I made my impassioned plea to anyone who would listen. The man won, in spite of the mudslinging because he was the stronger candidate and brought more to the table for sound direction and leadership of the city and staff.
I searched out the RC's, Mormon's and Mason's in the running. I have seen them in action these past number of years and can immediately strike them off my list of acceptable candidates.
I always have interesting encounters with teachers in my building. One, the Spanish instructor, a female of the RC persuasion, made a comment concerning the mayoral candidates. She alluded to the "womanizing" of the one candidate and she voted for the woman making the charges. She is a professed liberal Democrat and voted for Slick Willie, not once, but twice.
I also had to correct this person for using the name of G_d in vain. I told her I am quite sure, if G_d had a last name, it would not start with a "D." I assume, from dealing with the Dorito type RC's and others, the typical RC is as profane as the day is long.
I am in the process of writing a missive concerning the overt profanity used by staff within the public "fool" structure. I have personally witnessed staff using much profanity in reference to students. Me tinks refering to students as S.O.B.'s, etc., is a bit over the line.
I have had a great time pinch hitting for a few home school parents these past few mornings. The parents needed a bit of a break to do things and I enjoyed my interaction with the kiddies. I will take a home schooled 12 year old and put them up against the typical Kumbaya/Pacadorian any day. They make much more sense than the typical PP/R1 discourse any day.
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Gelly Beeee's complacency -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 10:22:07 09/12/02 Thu
A few days ago, Furrry Murrrrr, stated on the Regurgitation1 forum, No one deserves hell, which is undeniably antithetical to Scripture which states that everyone IS deserving of hell, thereby, making Furry Murrr's statement, a LIE.
Later, Furry Murrrr says, Not to vigorously refute a lie uttered in one's presence is to be complicit in the lie.
To which Ms. Gelly Beeee gives a resounding AMEN!
Gelly Beeeeee's failure to vigorously refute Furry Murrrr's LIE makes Ms. Gelly Beeeee complicit in that LIE.
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 13:30:29 09/10/02 Tue
From the Pacadorian Dorito hidin' out at PP:
"It's been a long day and I have jury duty at 9 in the a.m. At least I am in the preliminary pool of 30. Wonder what questions they'll ask us? One thing I know--I'm one of a very few who was really glad to be there today. Most people think it's cool to try to get out of it. I really want to see the judicial system up close. That is almost a guarantee I won't be picked. *-)"
I doubt she knows about Jury Nullification/Fully Informed Jury considerations. It is important to know that the judge will NOT inform you of this. It is up to you to know the law. You are not compelled to give information of your knowledge of Fully Informed Jury statutes.
This is one of the reasons the Supreme Court overturned many court dicisions concerning Death Penality cases where the judge alone sentenced a criminal. You, as a juror, have the right to interpret not only the law, but make a judgment as to whether it is being applied fairly.
That is the constitutional mandate for a trial by jury.
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the idiot strikes again -- lurkus XIX, 12:20:04 09/11/02 Wed
The idiocy of the pacadorian dorito unit has no bounds.
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Date Posted: 08:37:49 09/11/02 Wed
You post much scripture about staying away from evil people, pigs, the darkness, purveyers of wickedness, etc. In what ways has Mondo demonstrated these evil characteristics? He has not said anything at all against God. He speaks out against the unChristian behavior of those who profess to be Christian. He also dispels some of the deeply held, but often misinterpreted, views many have of scripture. Many use scripture to illustrate a point, but don't necessarily get the full meaning. It is very easy to wield the words of scripture into a club with which to beat others over the head, but that is not what Jesus taught.
I could write for days on the total absurdity of the few things the pacadorian dorito unit said there, but suffice it to say, that as a self professed ignoramus of Scripture as dori is, she makes a mighty prideful presumption to assume that she knows what Scriptures have been misinterpreted and by whom.
Jesus said, "If the light within you is darkness, then how great is that light"
In the case of the pacadorian dorito unit, the darkness that tries to pass as light is total darkness.
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Gelly Beee isn't too far behind the pacadorian dorito unit -- lurkus XIX, 12:35:57 09/11/02 Wed
GerryB.
In Response To Murray
Tuesday September 10, 2002 at 23:08
RE: "Making a stand for what is true and against that which is not only seems like negativity to those on the wrong side of these two. Not to vigorously refute a lie uttered in one's presence is to be complicit in the lie. Not to warn others when a predator is at work against them is to be apathetic and uncaring, i.e. irresponsible."
Only one thing can be said in response to that. AMEN!!!
That must be why Gelly Beee and the Kumbaya churchians at R1 have said we are "negative" when we take stands for the Truth and against that which is NOT and have constantly warned Gelly Beee and the others at the Regurgitation1 forums concerning the false teachers such as Maggie the Monarchian Sabellian Modalist.
Gelly Beeee is about as wishy-washy as the pacadorian dorito unit.
GerryB.
Tuesday September 10, 2002 at 23:35
"15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7:15-16(KJV).
One of the many warnings that our Lord and savior gave us about false prophets who like their leader Satan appear to be what they are not.
The problem is, Gelly Beee doesn't know HOW to apply that, and compromises the Truth by not taking a stand against Margaret's lies.
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Don't Call Me "REVEREND!" -- ekklesia, 00:05:58 09/09/02 Mon
DON'T CALL ME "REVEREND!"
So far as I am able to learn, the title "reverend" was never used in connection with a mere man for at least 1,400 years after all those elders were ordained in New Testament times. The word "reverend" in Psa. 111:9 comes from the Hebrew Word "yare." This word is used more than 300 times in the Scriptures, but only one time is it translated "reverend." Other meanings of this word "yare" are "dreadful," "feared," and "terrible." The title "terrible" would seem to fit some preachers I know better than "reverend."
According to the Oxford Universal Dictionary, the title of "reverend" was first applied to persons of age and character in 1449. In 1485, the deans in the Catholic Church were given the title of "Very Reverend" and the bishops were called "Right Reverend." God's title was "Reverend," so in order for the deans and bishops to be more highly honored than God, they used "Very Reverend" for the deans and "Right Reverend" for the bishops.
It would seem that by this time man would have been satisfied to just leave God this far behind. It appears, however, that there is no limit to man's carnal desires; not only to be like the Most High, but to go beyond Him. In 1642 the Arch-Bishops began to be called "Most Right Reverend." Just how much more reverend can you be than that! (they never met Hack Flappy Jowells!) Three years later, in 1645, just exactly 200 years before the Southern Baptist Convention was born, the title of "reverend" was applied to the clergy as a whole.
The Catholic Church had already taken over the matter of saving people. They just dash a little water on a person's head, and there you have it. That is so much more comfortable than hanging on a tree for six hours, by means of nails through the hands and feet.
The matter of forgiving sins had already been taken care of as well. If you have the money, I understand you can have the sins you have already committed forgiven, and even the ones you plan to commit next weekend. Surely they have the most convenient religion in all the world.
Now that they had taken over God's function in the matter of saving people and forgiving their sins, it was only a little thing for them to take over His title. All this will culminate in the man of sin in 2 Thess. 2:3-4. If you notice in Revelation 19:20, our Lord does not even go to the trouble of killing that old rascal. He just casts him into the lake of fire alive. ...
It seems to me that if Baptist preachers would investigate the origin of their title, they would prefer the one given to them in God's Word, rather than one given to them by the Catholic Church. If Baptists would discard all the junk the Catholic Church has sold them through the centuries, they would find they have a lot more room for Bible truth. --copied from The Historic Baptist
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Re: Don't Call Me "REVEREND!" -- tamarisk, 08:16:44 09/09/02 Mon
A case in point as the why the Rt. Rev. is NOT a Baptist. When I mention him to real Baptist pastors and preachers, they just snicker at the mention that the Rt Rev is a "spirit filled Baptist." They can immediately read and discern Charismatic Roman Catholic and NOT Baptist.
Hoped Jackals liked the pic in my Yahoo profile. It was taken last year for my staff ID. I've lost the facial hairs and almost 30# since then. Would not want the very Charismatic Rt Rev to say men should not have facial hair or be overweight.
Me tinks the Rt Rev has too much time on his hands to be cruzin' the Yahoo profiles for men on the net. Solly Jackals, ur not anyone's type. lol!!!
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demon jack howell is the antithesis of "reverend", as in irreverent! -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 10:20:16 09/10/02 Tue
A simple search at google.com reveals that irrereverent demon jack howell goes cruzin at a lot of places looking for men.
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Re: demon jack howell is the antithesis of "reverend", as in irreverent! -- tamarisk, 12:32:11 09/10/02 Tue
Snickers. Type that in to Google and hit "I'm feeling lucky" and you come up with this post:
"I can get there anytime I so desire, and I told WOG about the program that will allow him to get there too, if he so desires, and with over 400 proxy servers in this program, you would not be able to stop it. "
Talk about a prideful spirit!! Rt Rev is so intent and desparate to be heard, he needs 400 proxy server numbers to maintain his multiple ID's. Jackals needs his demons exorcized.
Luke 11:24-26
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
(KJV)
After casting out demons, the Ruach HaKodesh is the only Spirit left UNLESS a man fills his life with more vile and wicked things. Rt Rev's testimony is a perfect example of Y'shua's teaching here. Jackals states he was saved(in a Baptist Church), and after a period of time, entered a number of years in service to Satan and the Occult. My guess is Jackals needs 400 proxy numbers to satiate that many demons within.
Had an interesting conversation with a current local judge up for re-election today. I entered into the conversation with him as to why I could not vote for him knowing he is a Freemason. He knows me from a few years ago after I wrote the local Masonic Lodge after I found out they were sponsoring an essay contest at school for the students. They got an essay on the heresy and pure Satanism of the Lodge. That, among other reasons, is why I've been "blackballed" from receiving consideration for promotions.
Rt Rev "preaches" from a position of comfort. He only does that work necessary while maintaining his comfort zone. He certainly comes unglued(rather his demons) when he is exposed for the harry-tic he is.
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Re: demon jack howell is the antithesis of "reverend", as in irreverent! -- Pink Closet Door, 12:44:13 09/10/02 Tue
If Jack Howell is cruzing the internet as everyone has been noticing; and he has been soliciting and picking up stray men......his prideful spirit ain't the only thing that's UNCLEAN. Speaking of which, does anyone know if he has washed his hair this month? Have you seen those photos of him? What a smelly slime bucket!
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pla.gia.riz.er noun - to commit literary theft as did Jackals 300 times! -- EXPOSING LIARS & DECEIVERS & WICKED MEN, 06:25:23 09/10/02 Tue
Main Entry: pla.gia.rize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -riz.ing
transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
- pla.gia.riz.er noun
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Titus 2
7In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness 8and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us.
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Re: pla.gia.riz.er noun - to commit literary theft as did Jackals 300 times! -- MORE Evidence Against Jack Howell, 07:35:05 09/10/02 Tue
Main Entry: pla.gia.rize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -riz.ing
transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the
ideas or words of another) as one's own : use
(another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive senses : to commit literary theft :
present as new and original an idea or product derived
from an existing source
- pla.gia.riz.er noun
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Evangelism
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Titus 2
7In everything set them an example by doing what is
good. In your teaching show integrity,
seriousness 8and soundness of speech that cannot be
condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed
because they have nothing bad to say about us.
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Re: pla.gia.riz.er noun - to commit literary theft Jackals did 300 times! -- STILL MORE Evidence Against Jack Howell, 07:39:41 09/10/02 Tue
Main Entry: pla.gia.rize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -riz.ing
transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the
ideas or words of another) as one's own : use
(another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive senses : to commit literary theft :
present as new and original an idea or product derived
from an existing source
- pla.gia.riz.er noun
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7In everything set them an example by doing what is
good. In your teaching show integrity,
seriousness 8and soundness of speech that cannot be
condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed
because they have nothing bad to say about us.
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What Roman Catholics Believe -- Lord Grant Them Sight, 00:20:29 09/09/02 Mon
What Catholics Believe
Jesus made a profound statements to ponder: "Because straight is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew 7:14) The Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 4:5 "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." "For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath wereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness." "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." (Romans 10:2,3)
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgression unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah" (Psalm 32:5)
"My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:27,28) "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His glory." (Ephesians 1:13,14) "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." (John 10:29)
The Catholic Church teaches:
Justification is a transformation of the soul in which original sin is removed and sanctifying grace infused [1987-1995]
The Bible teaches:
Justification is an act of God in which He declares a sinner to be righteous in His sight, having forgiven his sins and imputed to him God's own righteousness (Romans 3:21-4:8)
The Catholic Church teaches:
Initial justification is by means of baptism [1262-1274]
The Bible teaches
Justification is by faith alone (Romans 3:28)
The Catholic Church teaches:
Adults must prepare for justification through faith and good works [1247-1249].
The Bible teaches:
God justifies ungodly sinners who believe (Romans 4:5). Good works are the result of salvation, not the cause (Ephesians 2:8-10).
The Catholic Church teaches:
The justified are in themselves beautiful and holy in God's sight [1992, 1999-2000, 2024].
The Bible teaches: The justified are in Christ holy and blameless before God (Ephesians 1:1-14).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Justification is furthered by sacraments and good works [1212, 1392, 2010].
The Bible teaches: Justification is the imputation of the perfect righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21). In Christ the believer has been made complete (Colossians 2:10).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Justification is lost through mortal sin [1033, 1855, 1874].
The Bible teaches: Justification cannot be lost. Those whom God justifies will be saved from the wrath of God (Romans 5:8,9).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Catholics guilty of mortal sin are justified again through the sacrament of penance [980, 1446].
The Bible teaches:
There is no second justification. Those whom God justifies He also will glorify (Romans 8:30).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Salvation from the eternal consequences of sin is a lifelong process [161-162, 1254-1255].
The Bible teaches: Salvation from the eternal consequences of sin is an instantaneous and secure act of God coinciding with justification (Romans 5:9).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Salvation is attained by cooperating with grace through faith, good works, and participation in the sacraments [183, 1129, 1815, 2002].
The Bible teaches: Salvation is attained by grace through faith apart from works (Ephesians 2:8,9). Good works are the result, not the cause, of salvation (Ephesians 2:10).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Faith is belief in God and the firm acceptance of all that the Church proposes for belief [181-182, 1814].
The Bible teaches:
Saving faith is the entrusting of oneself to Christ as Lord and Savior (Romans 10:8-17)
The Catholic Church teaches:
11. Sanctifying grace is a quality of the soul, a supernatural disposition that perfects the soul [1999-2000].
The Bible teaches:
Grace is the undeserved favor of God (Ephesians 1:7,8).
The Catholic Church teaches:
The sacraments are necessary channels for the continual infusion of grace. They bestow grace in virtue of the rite performed [1127-1129].
The Bible teaches:
The child of God is the constant object of the Father's grace (Romans 5:1,2)
The Catholic Church teaches:
Grace is merited by good works [2010,2027].
The Bible teaches:
Grace is a free gift (Romans 11:6).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Venial sins do not incur eternal punishment [1855, 1863].
The Bible teaches:
Every sin is punishable by eternal death (Romans 6:23)
The Catholic Church teaches:
Serious sins must be confessed to a priest [1456-1457].
The Bible teaches: Sin is to be confessed directly to God (Ezra 10:11).
The Catholic Church teaches:
The priest forgives sin as a judge [1442,1461].
The Bible teaches:
No one can forgive sin, but God alone (Mark 2:7).
The Catholic Church teaches:
When the guilt of sin is forgiven, temporal punishment remains [1472-1473].
The Bible teaches:
When God forgives sin, He completely forgives (Colossians 2:13; Isaiah 43:25).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Acts of penance make satisfaction for the temporal punishment of sin [1434, 1459 - 1460].
The Bible teaches:
Jesus made perfect satisfaction for all sins (1 John 2:1,2).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Indulgences dispensed by the Church for acts of piety release sinners from temporal punishment [1471-1473].
The Bible teaches: Jesus releases believers from their sins by His blood (Revelation 1:5).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Purgatory is necessary to atone for sin and cleanse the soul [1030-1031].
The Bible teaches: Purgatory does not exist. Jesus made purification for sins on the cross (Hebrews 1:3).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Poor souls suffering in purgatory can be helped by those alive on earth offering up prayers, good works, and the sacrifice of the Mass [1032, 1371, 1479].
The Bible teaches: Those who sleep in Christ need no help. To be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord. (2 Corinthians 5:8).
The Catholic Church teaches:
No one can know if he will attain to eternal life [1036, 2005].
The Bible teaches:
The believer can know that he has eternal life by the Word of God. (1 John 5:13).
The Catholic Church teaches:
Eternal life is a merited reward [1821, 2010]
The Bible teaches:
Eternal life is the free gift of God (Romans 6:23).
The Catholic Church teaches:
The Roman Catholic Church is necessary for salvation [846].
The Bible teaches: There is salvation in no one but the Lord Jesus Christ, "for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).
Excerpts taken from: The Gospel According to Rome, by James G. McCarthy, published by Harvest House Publishers, (1995).
I hope this states in no uncertain terms that Peter was not the ROCK Jesus was identifying in Matthew 16:18.
Note: 1 Corinthians 10:4 "And they did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual ROCK that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."
In closing: "Enter into the ROCK, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of His majesty. The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up and he shall be brought low." (Isaiah 2:10-12)
Endnote: the legend: numbers in brackets i.e. [183] indicates related information can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 183.
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Re: What Roman Catholics Believe -- tamarisk, 08:29:33 09/09/02 Mon
Ewe could also substitute what Rt Rev Jackals believes for RC in that article. An excellent article.
BTW--It is of little concern that Jackals is anal retentive enough to find someones Yahoo profile. I used to have a very scriptural referenced profile. However, I found the people who really needed to hear the Gospel avoided it because of the scriptural references. This way, I can preach a Gospel message to those whom the Ruach HaKodesh leads. I didn't want to show my "Bishop's Staff." ;)
I choose to not wear Christianity the Jackals way. The Rt Rev wears a badge like the Mormons do around here.
Hi!
I'm Rt Rev Jack Howell, Bishop
Spirit Filled Baptist Harry Tic
The Rt Rev fails to understand "we are what we eat." Jackals chooses to ingest the filth of his spirit filled devilation from hell.
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Re: What Roman Catholics Believe -- tamarisk, 12:53:57 09/09/02 Mon
And, on the heels of the Harry-Tic, comes Lillith snippets from R1:
The Loving father that Jesus portrays is inconsistant with the Jewish traditions of a jealous spiteful hateful god. I have never been able to take much of the OT seriously... nor much of the NT that was written by paul... clearly loved the OT bloody god.
If the natural world is a reflection of the spiritual one, the theory of reincarnation is clearly more true than the theory of a vengeful Hell and brimstone god. Nature never wastes anything, including mens souls.
Perhaps I'm not ready for a Master teacher... I tend to distrust anything of man. Nature has always been my teacher... that I trust more than anything else. The sweet whispers of the spirit are in the wind.
And she wonders why MM2 called her a New Ager a few years ago. Just another example on who her god really is, is!
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Britain erodes civil liberties & US isn't far behind, demons like facists like jack howell love it -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 08:32:54 09/06/02 Fri
Britain 'leads way' in eroding privacy
By David Rowan
INDIVIDUAL privacy is being eroded in Britain to a far greater extent than in other developed countries, according to an international study of state surveillance in the year since September 11.
Many states have rushed through restrictive anti-terrorism and security laws in response to last year’s terrorist attacks, but the Blair Government is singled out for an anti-privacy “pathology” that the report claims is leading to mass surveillance of the population.
In the 400-page report, to be published tomorrow, Privacy International, a London-based campaign group, and the US Electronic Privacy Information Center, give warning of a significant loss of personal freedom. The Privacy and Human Rights survey notes that in many of the 53 countries studied, communications surveillance has grown, intrusive “personal profiling” of individuals has increased, and data protection laws have been watered down.
“In the rush to strengthen national security and to reduce the risk of future terrorist acts, governments around the world turned to legal authority and new technology to extend control over individuals,” the report states. “Many of these proposals have had far-reaching consequences for the protection of privacy.”
The report highlights the British Government’s use of the terrorist threat to introduce new requirements for personal communications data to be stored and to launch a new debate about a national identity card. David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, also sought in June to extend the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act to allow private e-mail and telephone records to be shared among more than 1,000 government agencies. After facing strong protests, Mr Blunkett withdrew the proposal a few weeks later and announced that he had “blundered”.
Simon Davies, director of Privacy International, said the report highlighted “a systematic attack on the right to privacy by all levels of the British Government”. He added: “The UK demonstrates a pathology of antagonism toward privacy. The rate of growth of video surveillance, communications surveillance and information collection has exceeded the growth rate in such countries as Singapore and Israel.”
The erosion of privacy in Britain was not a new trend. “Crime and public order laws passed in recent years have placed substantial limitations on numerous rights, including freedom of assembly, privacy, freedom of movement, the right of silence, and freedom of speech,” the report states. It cites a number of illegal spying and surveillance activities by government agencies, often in violation of the European Convention on Human Rights, and estimates that 1.5 million CCTV cameras are now monitoring public spaces.
Amnesty International says today that anti-terrorism laws introduced in Britain in the wake of September 11 are inconsistent with international human rights and should be repealed.
The charity claims that the Anti-Terrorism Crime and Security Act, passed last November, contravenes fundamental human rights and calls for an immediate repeal of section 4, which empowers the Home Secretary to detain foreign nationals indefinitely, without charge or trial, if they pose a risk to national security.
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 13:30:35 09/03/02 Tue
Yule like this one. Jackals wrote a message to my Yahoo mail with the title "A Biblical Mandate to Misalign Others."
I did not read the article as I don't know what demons are attached to it. lol!! ;) Didn't need to read it to know his pattern of taking a verse or two of Scripture out of context for his own ill gotten gain.
Articles to my emails authored by "The Right Reverend Jack Howell" are immediately deleted. Just another attempt to soothe(actually fee) his prideful spirit within.
I would love to see Jackals inside the bar in a court of law. Jackals would not get past the discovery phase concerning his testimony.
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Re: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- Sola Scriptura, 23:12:08 09/04/02 Wed
"I did not read the article as I don't know what demons are attached to it. lol!! ;) Didn't need to read it to know his pattern of taking a verse or two of Scripture out of context for his own ill gotten gain."
Well said. That in a nutshell sums up the reason I breeze right past Jack Howell's posts. I am as disinclined to allow them into my temple for the Lord as I would be disinclined to read smut or various occultism. I don't want it to get a foothold in my walk.
Every once in the while I catch a glimps of his sneering chastisement aimed at me for not defending "so and so -harrumph, snort, spit and fume" - Fact of the matter is that I don't read his canned cut and paste trash. I know it comes from an UNHOLY source from which no good thing can originate. I don't allow his source material into the "temple." I hang out an unwelcome sign to his heretic rants.
I gleened from his titles that his recent rants about heresy hunters was the some-O same-O TBN-er stuff they all use in the apostate branch of the pentecostal movement. They re-cycle the same sources due to the fact that they are all attached by the same brain cell. I could just see a crazed Paul Crouch sputtering and fussing and fuming in a manner unbecoming to the Body. As he is standing next to Jan with her pink Big-Hair wig, and silicone lips, on their gauche, tasteless, trashy sound stage.
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Re: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 12:18:03 09/05/02 Thu
I had spent a few moments trying to remember the name of the TBN preacher which reminds me of Jackals. Bishop Earl Paulk came to mind last night. I remember his comment about Baptist churches getting the "Holy Ghost." That of course, is the Jackals/Pentecostal perversion of Acts 2:38.
Being taught in a real New Testament Baptist Church and not a faux one, I know what the evidence of salvation is, is. ;) A few dozen Jackals speaking in tongues in a church is exactly like Sh'aul taught. He likened it more to people being drunk. After myself being in the midst of a Vineyard Revival conference, I liken it to a mental ward where deluded people talk to the ceiling all day.
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Re: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- Dolly Llama, 06:26:30 09/06/02 Fri
>I had spent a few moments trying to remember the name
>of the TBN preacher which reminds me of Jackals.
>Bishop Earl Paulk came to mind last night.
BEEG DIFFERENCE! Bishop Earl Paulk has a CHURCH and a large congregation. Although BOTH are heretics of the first order; Bishop Hack Flappy Jowells never had a church. Bishop Hack Flappy Jowells never had a congregation and never will. Bishop Hack Flappy Jowells is a legend ONLY IN HIS OWN MIND! LOL!
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This is one large clump of hooey from Furry Murrrr -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 12:34:17 09/05/02 Thu
Murray
In Response To Jeanie
Thursday September 5, 2002 at 10:57
"However when Minder is using the word Grace and you use it, I need definitions as to it's nature so I can know what you are talking about. K?"
Defining it could ruin it, so why define it? Like love, we all know grace when we see it and experience it.
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Murry doesn't know what "Grace" is, nor Biblical love----Murray has them as warm fuzzy nondescript feelings.
No wonder he bounces all over the place, he isn't anchored.
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Re: This is one large clump of hooey from Furry Murrrr -- GRACE is Not a girl from Poughkeepsie!, 06:19:37 09/06/02 Fri
>Defining it could ruin it, so why define it? Like
>love, we all know grace when we see it and experience
>it.
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Murr could not be more vacant!
Biblical Grace is unmerited favor. Not a girl from Poughkeepsie! Unless "Grace" is defined in it's correctly Biblical meaning, Murr preaches a Different Gospel!
GRACE is the corner stone of Biblical Salvation! And defining it is exactly what seperates a true Christian form works oriented religionests such as Buddhists, Roman Catholics, JW's, Mormons and universalists!
It is God's free action for the benefit of His people. There is nothing we can do to EARN it as in dori's religion. It is different than Justice and Mercy. Justice is getting what we deserve. dori has chosen Justice, and so she shall receive her wish. Mercy is not getting what we deserve. Grace is getting what we do not deserve. In grace we get eternal life, something that, quite obviously, we do not deserve. But because of God's love and kindness manifested in Jesus on the Cross, we receive the great blessing of redemption.
Grace is God's Riches At Christ's Expense. Grace rules out all human merit. It is the product of God, that is given by God, because of who He is not because of who we are. It is the means of our salvation (Eph. 2:8-9). We are no longer under the Law, but under grace (Rom. 6:14). (See 1 Cor. 15:11; Rom. 5:2, 15-20; 2 Cor. 12:9; and 2 Cor. 9:8).
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hold on to your hats saints, things are beginning to get interesting -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 12:52:30 09/04/02 Wed
Tehran Plots Second Anti-US War Front
Deploying Syria, Hizballah, Palestinians
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
4 September: Iran has drawn up an elaborate war plan of its own to counter the approaching US campaign against Iraq. Syria, Lebanon, the Hizballah and the Palestinians have been enlisted to provoke a massive confrontation with Israel that will serve as a second front and hamstring the US offensive. This is revealed exclusively by DEBKAfile ’s Iranian and Middle East sources, in the wake of a secret visit that Iran’s deputy foreign minister for Arab and African affairs, Mohammad Sadr, paid to Syria and Lebanon this week.
The Iranian visitor found the door wide open.
Syria’s Bashar Assad shares Tehran’s conviction that the installment of a pro-American regime in Baghdad is extremely dangerous, a direct threat to the Ayatollahs in Tehran, the Baath regime in Damascus, the freedom of operation of the Syria-based Palestinian terror groups and the very existence of the Lebanese Hizballah, Tehran’s primary arm for overseas operations and intelligence.
The Iranian game plan as revealed to DEBKAfile was charted step by step:
A. Iran’s hardline spiritual leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei set up a supreme security council to formulate a plan to prevent or foil the American assault on Baghdad. Its members: Revolutionary Guards Commander Lt. Gen. Yahya Rahim-Safavi, international affairs adviser Ali Akhbar Velyati (former foreign minister) and one of the first founders of the Hizballah, Ali Akhbar Mohtashemi-Fur, who has meanwhile joined the reformist faction in the Majlis. Their fundamental conception was that were the United States and Israeli to decide that war on Iraq bears too high a price, Washington would drop its anti-Saddam offensive.
B. To ensure that both these foes felt threatened, the Iranian planners proposed ordering the Hizballah to launch massive pre-emptive assaults against Israel on a scale bound to drag the Israelis into military retaliation against Syria, as well as Lebanon. This action, the Iranian tacticians believe, would lead the Americans to halt their war preparations. Even if they were well into their offensive, the Israel-Syrian war would stop the Americans in their tracks or slow them down. The reasoning in Tehran is that the Americans would not risk the rest of the Arab world - Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Morocco and some of the Gulf Emirates - rushing to the aid of Syria and Lebanon against Israel, and sending the entire region up in flames.
C. In the middle of last week, Khamenei approved the plan for immediate execution.
D. The security council in Tehran thereupon dispatched deputy foreign minister Sadr to Syria and Lebanon to bring its plan to fruition without delay.
DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sourcesreport that the Iranian envoy began the week in Damascus in conferences with President Assad, the Syrian defense minister and army corps commanders including military intelligence and air force. He also met the heads of the Palestinian terrorist groups operating out of Damascus. Tuesday, September 3, Sadr arrived in Lebanon for a marathon round of talks with Hizballah secretary general Hassan Nasrallah and two senior lieutenants, Hashem Saffi-e-din and Naim Kassem.
All these talks were termed by our sources operational-tactical, covering also Iran’s plan for coordinating the field action among the various Syrian and Lebanese military and terrorist forces. Upon Sadr’s request and with Assad’s permission, a delegation of Palestinian leaders and operations officers based in Damascus was secretly invited to Beirut Tuesday to discuss Palestinian integration in the war plan formulated in Tehran with Qadr Nureddin, the Hizballah’s south Lebanon commander. In particular, they talked about roping in the inmates of the large Palestinian refugee camp of Ein Hilwa – both for military operations against Israel and for a cycle of terrorist strikes against American targets around the Middle East.
According to our sources, the Hizballah greeted their new directives from Tehran with enthusiasm and are preparing very shortly to launch a fresh wave of anti-Israel military operations to begin in the region of Ajar, a border village straddling the Lebanese-Israeli border. The Lebanese terrorist group will claim it is thwarting Israeli moves to interfere with Lebanon’s exploitation project for the WazzaniRiver sources. From this drummed up pretext, the Lebanese Shiite group will branch the action out into a massive assault.
E. DEBKAfile’s intelligence and counter-terror sources reveal too that Iran has scheduled the opening of a “Palestinian workshop” for Wednesday, September 4, in Tehran, to which Palestinians and Lebanese, most actively engaged in terrorism, have been invited. The event will proceed for three days behind closed doors and entail studies of innovative suicidal terror techniques, hinging on Islamic tenets. Iranian intelligence experts will hold lectures on novel methods of target selection and the vulnerabilities of the United States and Israel to terrorism. The chief lecturer at the “Palestinian workshop” will be Abdallah Safi-Id-a-Din, one of the top operations aides of the Iranian-Lebanese master terrorist Imad Murghniyeh, who this year switched his center of operations to south Lebanon.
This could be the conflict that leads to the Battle of Gog of Magog.
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Lilith at R1 -- tamarisk, 08:32:05 08/30/02 Fri
*Coinkydink
In Response To Murr
Friday August 30, 2002 at 9:18
"Many people here know each other's real names, even addresses. but we don't usually divulge them because of the possibility of nutcakes that may not have the best intentions who lurk on the internet. There was a guy on the old Reagan forum for instance who harassed the women with death threats... he would say we deserved to die and some of the e-mails we got were horrific. If he'd known our names and addresses, he might have been a danger for real to us. Other than that, some here are very private people and probably don't want a lot of personal attention from the rest. I'm sure you meant no harm... I'm just explaining, not griping at you, OK?"
Truth doesn't mean anything to you, does it Lil'? You complained about received emails after YOU posted YOU were Wiccan on your VIP at the Old Reagan forums. I remember your postings you received some "suffer not a witch to live" emails.
Was it not YOU Lil' dear, desperately seeking ALL the posters on the radio poll forum to engage you in email relationships? And how did YOU treat those who chose NOT to go that route?(i.e. Sharon, Oregon Don and myself) Of course, YOU were posting from the back room of your work establishment, wasting company time because you didn't have a puter at home, at that time. I remember this because you made numerous references to your boss coming back and you had to leave for a while. Did YOU ever stop to think YOU were stealing from the company?
Of course not! Point one--you rarely think! Point two--a truly witchy woman has no character to know the difference. YOU Lil' dear, being the New Ager MM2 stated you are(and he told the truth), are just as deluded today as then. Just like Dorito, being the Moral Relativist, lacking a quark of discernment, you remain in your deluded, delusional state.
I bring up this past, from time to time, because YOU, like Dorito, and others, have NOT progressed past that point of repenting for those past actions.
Wherever MM2 is, he had the guts and courage to apologize for his part in all that. It's called character and it takes a man to do so. I snicker at that time because Sharon tried to extract an apology from him, like it was owed her.
So Lil,' when are YOU going to stop hiding behind men? I remember your comment "Men are so cute, they are always trying to fix things." Is that why you hide behind "blow up Billy?"
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more proof of Lillith's delusional state -- Lurkus XII, 10:11:00 08/30/02 Fri
Jeanie says, Many people here know each other's real names, even addresses. but we don't usually divulge them because of the possibility of nutcakes that may not have the best intentions who lurk on the internet.
Yet she has revealed people's real names many, many times.
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Re: more proof of Lillith's delusional state -- tamarisk, 11:53:45 08/30/02 Fri
Yes. And, the lesson practiced frequently called situational ethics at R1 is interesting. ;)
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yep---just as Scripture says -- ACNR, 13:41:33 08/30/02 Fri
They do what is right in their own eyes, and it changes from moment to moment like their moods. LOL
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Re: more proof of Lillith's delusional state -- the air they breathe, 13:49:13 08/30/02 Fri
Doris, Jeanie. Jack & Wus ALL reveal secrets when they get in a snit.
They are unreliable workers on iniquity, who are UNSTABLE in all they breathe.
The Spirit of the Serpent has lifted his head. Pray for Jack Howell, Wussy-gurl, Jeanie, and doris the deceivers and those caught in all of their webs of false religionist that as many as have not blasphemed the Holy Ghost may be reproved and delivered.
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For Jackals -- tamarisk, 09:53:50 08/29/02 Thu
From a friend via email.
UNHOLY SEMINARIES.
The cemeteries of the Faith once delivered to the saints.-Jude 1:3
By Andy Neckar
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Where did these certain men come from? How did they creep in?
These certain men came with "credentials". They came into the churches and behind the pulpits with the alphabet after their names. They came with the Name of Christ "before" their names. They call themselves "Reverend".
Ps 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.
Why is it that the Holy Spirit of God cannot teach a man anything anymore? (John 14:26) Has the Holy Spirit of God lost His power to teach? Just suppose He has also lost His power to "seal". (Eph 1:13; 4:30)
Oh, yes, the Bible does teach us to study. (2 Tim 2:15). The Bible does instruct us to study and teach others. We are to commit the faith "once" delivered to the saints to other "faithful men" (gender sensitive-1 Tim 2:12) who shall be able to teach others. (2 Tim 2:2)
The apostle Paul did not start a religious school to teach Timothy the Scripture. Timothy learned from Paul as Paul went about his missionary work and from the written words of Paul. I do not recollect reading of Timothy receiving a diploma or certificate of any kind from Paul.
Acts 18:24-26 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
The way of salvation was now, "... repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ." (Acts 20:21) and belief in the gospel of Christ. (Rom 1:16) Apollos knew only the baptism of repentance. (Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3)
Do you think Apollos went to the seminary of Aquila and Priscilla for 2, or perhaps 4 years of study before he could go out and teach others? As for me and my house, we don't think so. (Me & Mom)
Our churches are being "led away" from the faith once delivered to the saints by men and women trained up in the way the devil wants them to go. These disciples of their father the devil are graduates of the Seminaries of Satan, and they go and make a former Christian Church the Synagogue of Satan.
They say they are Christian Churches but are not. The Lord Jesus has made them the synagogues of Satan. (Rev 2:9; 3:9)
Read my article about seminaries, "America Leading The World Into Spiritual Adultery" in the November 1997 newsletter. Go to Newsletter, Back Issues, from my CNV Front Page
Those with e-mail only, please write, and I will send it as time permits.
Take courage though. OUR day is coming. One day they will worship at our feet.
Earnestly Contending for the Faith
Andy
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 10:13:12 08/28/02 Wed
I received a newsletter from OSA(Operation Save America) out of my home church in Ohio. He chairman gave an overview of what is NOT going on in the Pro-Life Movement in AmeriKa. Item #3 reminds me of the Jackals of this world:
"The corporate church is so apathetic thta they refer to us as "dirty pro-lifers"(Tamarisk notes--I guess they've not read nor understand Proverbs 24:11-12). Pastor Flip says, "Abortion will end witn the Church of Jesus Christ is willing to stand up and say enough is enough!. I whole heartedly agree. There aren't enough of us(you and me) willing to be a part of this war.(Tamarisk comments--They refer to us; those protesting outside of the execution chambers as "terrorists." The real terrorism takes place inside the abortuary. This is the real war on terrorism.) G_d has called me to the front lines in many different areas and your generous and faithful support allows me to keep fighting these battles all over the country because it IS a NATIONAL PROBLEM. Thank you!"
The real outrage should be from the pulpits of AmeriKa. Today, we have pulpits full of sissy preachers fearful of offending "tithe" paying congregations. That sticky sweet, all loving gospel, where you don't preach on repentance, sin and Hell, keeps the collection plate full. Look! Sayz the Laodicean church of today. We have a "mega-church" having thousands of members who have answered alter calls for salvation. We support missionaries here and there, etc. We're "good" people. Look at us!!
Isn't it interesting that the 501 c 3, registered, corporate church never shows up. Jackals has NO understanding in this area. He has NOT read the exclusions by the IRS for a 501 c 3 registered church. Jackals "god" is the IRS and its apostate belief it is above the law and can interpret the law with impunity. Jackals will NOT understand:
Prov 24:10-12
10 If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small.
11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;
12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?
(KJV)
Solomon, the preacher, reminds his readers that the time of crisis is in reality a test of strength an opportunity for a man to demonstrate his mettle. These verses set forth situations where the character of a man is tested. The obligation to receive a man who is being overwhelmed by oppressors is chronicled here. Any attempt to avoid the responsibilities for deliverance(saving the unborn from a painful, vile death by abortion or preaching the Gospel Truth to the mothers and fathers of the unborn) in such situations is unacceptable. A note to Rev. Jack--One may hypocritically plead ignorance. The G_d who knows you will "render to every man according to his works."
As a side note, Jackals reminds the of "Pastor" Kenneth Chalker in Cleveland, Ohio. Chalker is the pastor of a large church in the Cleveland area. I seepose he is like Jackals, believing pro-life protesters are "dirty pro-lifers wanting to shoot abortionists in the head." I can assure Jackals, if he showed up on "blood ally" in Cleveland, Ohio, with a firearm, he would be reported to the police. Jackals does NOT understand the real murderers and terrorists are INSIDE the clinic. Jackals may also like to stand in front of a mirror to see the real problem with the institution called the "Church in AmeriKa."
I wonder what Jackals will do when they come for his parents for no other reason than they are old?
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Re: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 10:21:20 08/28/02 Wed
What I forgot to mention is the parallel between Jackals and Chalker. Chalker was IDed one day, pulling up to the curb of the abortion clinic on Shaker Blvd, letting a female out of the passenger side to go into the clinic. Chalker, it seems, is a pro-death pastor. He believes in a woman's "right to choose." He, like Jackals, dose NOT believe the Church should be protesting outside of the execustion chambers. The sanitized, one-size-fits all church of today lives. Lives is a "snicker" term because it is a "twice-dead, Laodicean, lukewarm, apathetic" organization.
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another case of blind CON-EEEEE not following 1 John 4:1 -- Lurkus XXIV, 13:40:19 08/28/02 Wed
Connie
In Response To Gerry
Wednesday August 28, 2002 at 15:06
I think you'll like this one. Thank goodness adults are back in charge of the Executive Branch. Walking in faith.
(*CON-EEEEE gave a link to "Free Republic" and a reposted article from the Washington Post on Condoleeza Rice's faith.)
CON-EEEEE is so far out of touch with reality, that she doesn't know that Condi Rice is a member of the apostate Presbyterian Church-USA that ordains active homosexual pastors both men and women, endorses abortion on demand, does not hold the Bible as the inerrant word of God, does not hold to "sola scriptura", does not hold to salvation by grace alone, through faith in Christ alone, subscibes to universalism, doesn't believe in a literal hell and a host of other heresies.
WAKE UP CON-EEEEEE!
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and dumbed down GellyBeeee agrees with CON-EEEEEE -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 13:46:57 08/28/02 Wed
GerryB.
In Response To Connie
Wednesday August 28, 2002 at 15:20
RE: Your 13:29. AMEN To that.
RE: "the adults are back in charge."
I'm not so sure about Mr. Bush. He appears to be trying to continue the slide toward socialism that has burdened us for so long. Mrs. Rice I can probably agree with you on.
GellyBeeeee is as stuck in neutral, dumbed down and non-discerning as CON-EEEEEE is. Both of them are lile damp clay in the hands of deceivers, easily fooled by appearances, in their incredible ignorance.
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really bad judgment and compromising by Furry Murrrrr -- Lurkus XXV, 06:14:53 08/29/02 Thu
Murray
In Response To Jeff
Wednesday August 28, 2002 at 12:57
"My wife and I are secular humanists, and none of that applies to us."
But you are also Christian in a Jeffersonian sense, so your life is, therefore, a combination of influences.
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Murry, Jeff is not "Christian" in any way, he is a godhating agnostic, and to say he is "Christian" is to demean our Lord.
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Re: another case of blind CON-EEEEE not following 1 John 4:1 -- tamarisk, 09:34:56 08/29/02 Thu
In addition to her not knowing 1 John for and testing the spirits, she is also clueless here, in this posting:
Connie
In Response To Gerry
Thursday August 29, 2002 at 10:33
Too many people think only of His death and ignore the resurrection which IMHO was an event equal to His death for our sin. I don't think they are equal events. The resurrection was much more significant and the reason we don't have to live day to day full of doom and gloom...BECAUSE HE LIVES, I CAN FACE TOMORROW...I'm sure you've sung that old hymn many times...smile!
Matt 6:31-34
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
(KJV)
The word "first" indicates our first concern is the "kingdom of G_d." This is the 5th example in Y'shua's preaching in His Sermon on the Mount. "First" also indicates there is a second, and so on. We are to continually be about the business of seeking holiness in righteousness. True Christians will never be satisfied or falsely content with what he has in Mechiach, but is continually seeking to know Him better.
When our priority is spiritual, G_d will take care of the material, for where G_d guides, He provides. We are not to even worry about tomorrow. No where in Scripture does it guarantee we will see tomorrow. Thus, "sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." This means that each day has its own troubles and challenges to be responsibly handled, without worry about the hypothetical problems which could arise tomorrow. God is ever pictured in Scripture as the G_d of the present.
2 Cor 6:2
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
(KJV)
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 08:52:14 08/29/02 Thu
I just realized, after viewing GellyB's pics at R1, his church is, in reality, a Southern Baptist Church, in flavor.
It certainly has all the markings of a "comfortable" church. Padded pews, the lack of a simple dress code.(It it not unrealistic to expect men to wear a shirt with a collar or the ladies to wear a dress or skirt and not look like you just rolled out of bed. i.e. cleaned and pressed, shaven, hair combed and trimmed, etc.) It's important these daze to be able to tell men from women, in the church. ;)
The baby dedication thingy is an attempt at "programs." A very RCC way of getting people to come to the services. The new church here has move theme daze than you can imagine. A constant barrage of "bring a friend to church day and receive a ticket for a chance at a prize day, etc." The muzak goes boarders on the CCM realm, too! The overhead projector is a nice touch though. Guess it saves money by not having to print a weekly service schedule. Of course, yule have to find other places to take notes, but not a problem. I'm sure GellyB has all his notes to refer back to later.
Somewhere, in the back of the sanctuary, there must be a clock. The congregation must know the schedule and when to pack up their things and head on out the door. I've always thought it a bizarre thing to have a clock in a church. Time should be the least of your concerns at church. The "god in a box" type churches which must maintain a set schedule of time, are clueless.
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Dorito and Lilith Kissing in a Tree.... -- tamarisk, 10:52:17 08/28/02 Wed
dori
In Response To Gee Jeanie
Wednesday August 28, 2002 at 12:39
"You sure do get cocky when you have reinforcements around, don't you? When did you put out your shingle? You've got everyone figured out, do ya? Got a mirror? I can't think of a more needy, confused hanger-on than you. When you say the things you did this morning about Gerry, Murray and I, it is just you pointing out the obvious, right? When we point out that your posts reflect one whose brain is addled (and now your admitted drug use pretty much corroborates that), we're picking on you. Too funny! Please do us all a favor and quit embarrassing yourself. Don't you have a diaper to change?"
Yes, but it's a long way between Fresno and Indianapolis. lol!! Anyway, I don't think they even make Depends that big. ;)
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Re: Dorito and Lilith Kissing in a Tree.... -- LOL-Gellyfish needs some cajones replacing the ones he lost, 12:51:15 08/28/02 Wed
GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Wednesday August 28, 2002 at 10:40
What I see from your posts last evening is that you really do hate the Roman Catholic Church and those who attend their services. You sound so much like ACNR and his gang that I wonder why you don't post on their forums more often.
For your information, I do disagree with the RCC's teachings on many issues and I am not shy about expressing that disagreement. However, I don't hate either the Church or it's people as you seem to do.
Gellyfish doesn't heed the Scriptures that he can't serve two masters...religious political correctness and the antichrist Romanist church and God.
The apostate antichrist Roman Catholic church is responsible for leading an untold millions into hell with their false religion of iniquity.
Hey Gellyfish, God says in His Word that His children are to hate iniquity----so why do you love the antichrist institution of the RCC?
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GellyBeeee has been conditioned like pavlov's dog -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 13:28:02 08/28/02 Wed
GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Wednesday August 28, 2002 at 12:51
RE: "I do not like the way it handles the problems of priests who are out of control."
I don't like the way that they have handled that matter either but because I am not a Roman Catholic I have not commented on the matter. It would only have been seen as Catholic bashing and I did not want to get into that. BTW Three more Priests and a Church worker in the Boston area were charged yesterday with sexual abuse of children. I do believe that it is long past time for Cardinal Law to resign.
GellyBeeee is afraid of speaking the truth against wickedness, in favor of him appearing to be politically correct. GellyBeeee cares more about the praises of men than the Truth. GellyBeeee is NOT the kind of person I would want beside me when preaching on the streets and public squares, the crowd could smell his fear. Poor GellyBeeeee, it must really be tough looking like a man but having no testicles.
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ROFL -- A Catholic, NOT Roman, 13:20:36 08/28/02 Wed
I think doris is jealous that Dinkster is the favorite of the Satanist, little stevie, and dori isn't any longer.
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Jack Howell Misrepresents the Truth Lifts Phrases -- Dolly Llama, 22:47:27 08/27/02 Tue
Clever "one-liner's" and biblical phrases lifted out of context are heard on every hand today. Jack’s current one is “who is the accuser of the brethren...” More often than not, they tend to encourage what God has forbidden, or discourage what God's Word has commanded.
As Bible believers, our response must be with the correct application of Truth, and not with a commonly used idiom that unwarily pops into the mind and rolls easily off the tongue. We will mention a few that are especially deceptive.
"TOUCH NOT THE LORD'S ANOINTED!" demon spirits in the counterfeit revival of the heretical branches of Pentecostalism such as Jack Howell,----who by the way anointed HIMSELF and has (according to his web site) apointed himself the position of ordaining OTHER BISHOPS! Fancy that ----The Good ‘ol Boi, Bishop’s Club LOL!. Time and again we hear this cry: "TOUCH NOT THE LORD'S ANOINTED!" parroted as a counter to those of us who attempt to alert the unsuspecting of the dangerous, unbiblical teachings of a particular ministry such as the sham PFAI.
Jack has insulated himself from any accountability. As a result, religious figures fall into a category that is apparently safe from scriptural examination; since their ministries influence many, they MUST be God's anointed--don't you dare "touch" them!
If you give a warning about doctrinal inconsistencies within the programs headed by men such as Benny Hinn, Finis Dake, Jack Howell, WOG, or even the pope, you can be sure that in the estimation of many, the moment the word of caution was uttered, you became guilty of "touching the Lord's anointed"! This indictment sounds ominous to say the least, but the question still remains, "What does God's Word have to say about this?" That's what really matters.
A look at the actual context from which this phrase is lifted provides clear-cut proof that scriptural reproof and rebuke does NOT constitute "touching God's anointed" at all. In fact, God made sure that Saul was forced to face up to his compromise. The ministry of the King of Israel was judged according to the Lord's commandments, and no man today is exempt from this same kind of biblical scrutiny.
David refused to slay King Saul with the sword, even though in doing so, he would rid himself of his arch enemy, and also clear the way for his own ascent to the throne of Israel (1 Sam. 24:1-15). God, not David, would remove Saul in His time and in His way (26:8-10). But some say there is a "secondary application" found in this text which would also bar ANY negative comment about another's far-reaching ministry, for this, too, would constitute "speaking against" one of God's servants and is, in essence, "touching God's anointed." Is this a viable, secondary application? Absolutely not!
Samuel certainly "touched God's anointed," if by that you mean speaking out against his disobedience (1 Sam. 15:20). God told Saul to "Smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not..." (1 Sam. 15:3). But under a pretext of pious intention, he "... spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the Lord..." (v. 15). Partial obedience--Samuel said it was tantamount to witchcraft and idolatry! TO OBEY is better than sacrifice!!!
Saul had a very visible testimony that affected all of God's people. When he failed to minister according to the absolute standard, God's faithful prophet was commanded to cry out against the error. Take his life--no, rebuke his sins--yes! Let's get straight what the Bible forbids in this account, and what it demands. Scriptural reproof and rebuke of a disobedient brother is not "touching God's anointed." It is compliance with God's order.
"JUDGE NOT THAT YE BE NOT JUDGED" is another example of a frequently misapplied scripture. It is invariably quoted as a response to any attempt at exercising spiritual discernment when the rest of the passage from which the phrase is taken in Matthew seven is considered, it is found that it is hypocritical judgment which is disallowed, not the act of judging itself. On the contrary, spiritual judgment is required by this text, not forbidden (Matt. 7:1-23).
True, much "judging" today by Christians is displeasing to the Lord, for it is carried out in a censorious, critical spirit bent on causing injury rather than edification;----look at WOG and Jack Howell--- it is set on character assassination rather than doctrinal clarification. But in no way does this preclude the believer's responsibility to judge, or discern, what is acceptable to an all-holy God as revealed in His holy Word. A circumspect walk and Ministry such as WOG’s and Jack Howell’s requires the identification of those men’s teachings and practices to be avoided. You simply cannot do this without judgment. They are leading others into false teachings and must be identified.
"WE WILL EITHER STAND TOGETHER OR WE WILL HANG SEPARATELY" is often advanced by the new-evangelical, This is one of WOG’s terms. It is so quaint that he oft repeats the phrase, then proceeds to call others Nazis and white supremacists! LOL! sad to say even by some supposed “30-year Christians”, in an effort to justify unbiblical fellowships with all manner of heretics, false religionists, occult religions and atheists, while opposing Biblical teachers. Fundamentalists today are not to join in “common cause,” with compromised brethren, or with liberals and outright cultists, but we are taught to Mark them out! We are to oppose immorality, abortion or other evils. But has God suspended His guidelines for separation from whatever is contrary to doctrinal purity for the sake of added political or theological clout? No!
The fact remains, God will bless the testimony of a separated witness, and will perform His will in and through it, rather than condone an alliance built upon compromise. The notion that a visible unity wields more influence with the powers of this world is humanistic reasoning, not divine revelation. Stand true! Stand alone if need be! In so doing, you need never fear being "hung" by anyone as long as your sole confidence is in God, and not in the strategy of men.
God's Word still declares that the source of power in opposing the evil of our day comes from absolute dependence on the arm of God, not on the concerted efforts of men. The biblical doctrine of separation is based on the premise that the holiness of God will never allow for the joining together of that which is true to the Word, and what is contrary to the Word in a common cause, regardless of how righteous or needful it might appear to be. The end does not justify the means in Christian ministry.
Here’s another one liner that the secular world under the direction of Satan likes to toss in the ring: "THE CHRISTIAN ARMY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT SHOOTS ITS WOUNDED." We have heard this last phrase all too often in recent years from the ecumenical Laodician pew warmers in concert with the enemies of the Cross who comb our closets for an issue that will cause strife. I love reading the intent of these persons on the forums. They know who they are. But do they know who prompts their acts??
What is usually implied by this phrase is that a Christian should NEVER speak in a negative way about any other brother, regardless of what error the latter may be involved in.
It's sad when biblical exhortation is equated to "taking pot shots" at another. God's Word tells the faithful servant to "... reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine" (2 Tim. 4:2); with respect to the disobedient brother we are to "... note that man, and have no company with him... yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2 Thess. 3:6,14-15). This is not "shooting the wounded"; it is employing God's methodology for healing the breach caused by straying from the divine Standard!
May the Lord allow us to earnestly endeavor, by God's grace and through the light of His Word, to answer all that concerns our walk and witness with Truth correctly applied. Quaint sayings of mockers like Jack Howell make for easy responses, but if the responses themselves are unbiblical, then we must be very careful of their use. Misrepresentations of truth are hard to dispel.
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if this wasn't so sad it would be funny -- lurkus XXIV, 08:17:21 08/28/02 Wed
Connie
In Response To Minder
Tuesday August 27, 2002 at 11:57
"What do you mean by "neutral"?
Someone who learned something up to a point and then the learning process stopped and they were stuck in "neutral" from then on.
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CON-EEEEEEEEE just described herself perfectly, as being in neutral.
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ACNR/Dolly -- tamarisk, 12:39:42 08/26/02 Mon
Otay, youse guyz leave ol' smilin' Jackals alone. Have been doing research on the town of Moore, OK., just south of OKC. As a side note, Jackals and his lack of knowledge of the "Christian Identity Movement" must really believe Tim McVeigh(and Terry Nichols) blew up the Federal Building in OKC without the help of Saudi(Arab looking) nationals. Another terrorist act with the full knowledge of rogue agents of the U.S. goobermint mind control cults. His U.S. Rep in Congress, J.C. Watts knows of my research of McVeigh and his Kingman, AZ. connection. So does, for that matter, a handfull of ministries that have used that info in books, newsletters and on worldwide radio programs.
Back to Moore, more or less. ;) Hey, it has 2 Wally World's. Me tinks Jackals "ministry" is undercover at Apple Jacks Learning Center or Splatter-Splat Paintball Supply Center on N. Moore St. That would esplain his helter-skelter doctrinal teachings.
Just thought ya'll needed to know the latest "gossip" I uncovered about Jackals and his non-descript ministry.
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Dolly -- tamarisk, 10:34:22 08/26/02 Mon
Tanks for your posting this at the "whiteroom."
TAMARISK: YUL like this from dori's dump:
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"Hi Dori! Yes, I've read the garbage they spew forth on that new "gossip" board they opened after closing the other one after it crashed. I noticed how those three twist things around and totally misconstrue what others have said and/or believe. It is amazing that "Tamarisk" professes to be an Independent Baptist preacher, when my own experience in the Independent Baptists proves they do not believe or behave in the manner in which he does."
Tamarisk comments--Again, Jackals goes by his "experience"(feelings). His "experience" of being attending an Independent Baptist Church is a clear indication that a Baptist Church can't save you. His "experience" in his "testimony" also includes departing from that teaching by diving, head first, into the occult and satanic teachings. This is why he now is affiliated with a "feel good ministry."(Charismatic heresy hiding behind a Baptist tag) I can well imagine Jackals is the high priest presiding over the satanic rituals in the basement. So it goes with the very Neo-Evangelical, Ecumenical Jackals.
"All three of them are frauds pretending to be "Christians," and hiding behind the Baptist label. They have demonstrated that they are anti-government and though they have denied it, they have given every evidence of being part of the "Christian Identity Movement," which is anything BUT Christian and is racist, facsist, anti-government, and has been implicated in the murders of doctors who perform abortions and blowing up clinics where abortions are performed. These are acts of terrorism and not the acts of genuine, Bible-believing Christians. The apostle Paul in Romans 13 tells us to obey the government and even to pray for our leaders, but those three, while claiming to be Christians, go contrary to Paul's inspired words to say the very least."
Tamarisk Comments--Here we have Jackals rise up the NWO/One World church to come. Jackals will be a captain in the goobermints programs of spying on its citizens. He will have a high position in his Neighborhood Watch Group. Notice the goobermint, just last week, enlisting fishermen to watch the coastal waters for anything suspicious. Jackals does not understand the legal nature of the book of Romans.(NOT to be confused with legalist or legalism.)
Jackals shows his lack of guts and courage to stand out front of an execution chamber, preaching the Gospel and saving babies from the painfull death by abortion. Jackals would pervert the truth by calling people protesting outside of the killing centers terrorists while condoning the wholesale murder of precious, innocent babies inside. Neither does Jackals understand the function of the second great institution ordained by G_d, Human Goverment. Human Goverment was instituted by G_d to BE A BLESSING TO THAT WHICH IS GOOD AND RIGHTEOUS AND TO BE A TERROR TO EVIL. Jackals does not know the difference between good and evil. He is a moral and spirital relativist.
A final note to Jackals concerning the great sin against AmeriKa concerning the execution of babies in their mother's womb----Jackals, if YOU DON'T have the guts and courage to protest out front of execution chambers, nor honor the truth in G_d's Holy Word by teaching those in your "congregation," you WILL stand naked before Almighty G_d in that terrible day of judgment. Just admit your weakness and your disobedience to the Truth.
It is obvious Jackals has never preached a message of the "Christian Identity Movement/Reconstructionism, etc."
"The garbage they spew forth on that "gossip" board is enough to make one sick at their stomache and gives cause to wonder how they could possibly claim to be Christians!"
Tamarisk Comments--If YOU believe this is a "gossip" board, you participate for what reason(s)??? The real garbage is one, professing to be a minister of Mechiach, NOT preaching the whole Gospel Truth. Ever hear of Sins of Omission, or Commission, for that matter, Jackals??
It is interesting because when I was licensed by my home church, I asked my pastor "what is the purpose I am being licensed for?" I was told at that time what his and the congregation's expectations of its licensed/ordained preachers are. I know what it is and it's between The Lord, them and myself.
Pastor Ernie often preached a message on the Beautitudes and Y'shua NEVER preaching "Blessed are the stupid." That is a message they NEVER taught in Jackals Baptist Church because they, apparently, licensed him to be a "huckleberry." ;)
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Lilith at R1 -- tamarisk, 09:54:31 08/26/02 Mon
Lil posts this verse of scripture at R1:
Rom 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
(KJV)
A condemnation of what happens in the Society of Friends worship service??? The great consolation of Born Again, Bible Believing Christians is the presence of the Ruach HaKodesh, The Holy Spirit of G_d, until the return of Y'shua. He(The Holy Spirit) alone is the One who helps our "infirmities."(better translated singular. That one great infirmity while waiting for the Lord to return to us, is that "we know not what we should pray for as we ought."
The ONLY thing the Talmidim of the Lord as Him to teach them was how to pray. Every believer has the same difficulty in knowing how and what to pray. Therefore, those "groanings which cannot be uttered" are interpreted by the Ruach HaKodesh of our innermost feelings and to intercede in our behalf.
G_d constantly searches even those undiscernable groanings of our hearts, the Holy Spirit makes intercession on our behalf. Intercession is made for us not only by G_d the Son, who sits at the right hand of Abba G_d, G_d the Father, but also by G_d the Spirit who dwells within the believer.
This is what you, Lilith, fail to understand in your Quaker meetings, which is a mockery of G_d. You feel compelled to force those innermost "feelings" out in your service under the false assumption of pragmatatic teachings.(everyone else does it, so I must be the same mind controlled minion and follow along. See Dolly's posting below on dialeticalism/Marist/Communist way of altering the thought process of its adherents.)
Can you still remain a Quaker of you do not believe in their teachings? Will you too, be "estranged" from "blow up Billy" if you depart from those false doctrines from Hell?
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Serpent Egg's FRAUD, Lies, and Gross Violence to the Word -- Sola Scriptura, 22:29:11 08/25/02 Sun
Like all serpents Jack Howell has completely distorted both my words, but of real importance, he has sullied Christ’s words.
”She (Sola Scriptura) makes mention of C.H. Spurgeon, (a fundamentalist reading list from David Cloud he references here completely OUT OF CONTEXT!!!) but fails to mention that Spurgeon endorsed confessing the Word of God which is an essential element of the Word of Faith movement she dishonestly vilifies. (Spurgeon was not the topic discussed. Very intellectually dishonest of Jack) On this board, I posted a quote from Spurgeon in which he teaches that one must confess one's healing if one is to be healed and confess the word of God if one is to be healed, and she completely avoided responding to the post with the quote from Spurgeon. R.A. Torrey and Billy Sunday also endorsed confessing the Word of God, yet she seems to be ignorant of this fact, or is willfully and dishonestly ignoring it in order to promote her dishonest attacks on genuine Believers.”
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In Charles Haddon Spurgeon’s Sermon #520 titled: ”Confession With The Mouth” Delivered on Thursday, July 1867 to his Metropolitan Tabernacle, in Newington, it is an expository on Romans 10:10.
Romans 10
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
The sermon begins In speaking of this important matter, ---confessing with the mouth what we have believed in our heart, I call your attention, first of all, to the order of the two things. Believing with the heart must come first; confessing with the mouth must, and should come afterwards………”
This is at the very core of our Salvation and eternal destination. It has absolutely nothing to do with positive confession theology!
What this is actually addressing, ---- and what the tortured, perverted doctrines promoted and taught by the Word of Faith heretics, have come to teach in it’s substitution, by subjecting G-d’s Word to gross violence and misappropriating it to imply; literally makes me weep. It is with such distress that I learn of such teachings! It is horrible beyond all conceivable imagination!
EW Kenyon, and subsequent “positive confession” lovers of lies such as “Dad Hagin” (promoted by Jack Howell,) and various other stripes of the same WOF serpents: Kenneth Copeland, Robert Tilton, John Avanzini, Benny Hinn, and various financially unaccountable TV whores who have so perverted this passage to make it become their license to” NAME IT AND CLAIM IT THEOLOGY”. It is as vacant and bankrupt as Jack Howells empty titles. Along with all the subsequent fraudulent titles he bestows on others (according to his own claims.)
It takes a very deluded and twisted soul to take so precious a passage from Romans that speaks to a soul’s gift of eternal salvation, and pervert it to become a RIGHT to expectation of gifts, material wealth, health and whatever those who “positively confess it” and believe it!
Such is the teaching of scoundrels and wolves in sheep’s titles such as the demonically guided, Jack Howell who has slipped in among the sheep. He is part of the prophesied growing problem confronting the end-time apostate church filled with false teachers, such as those who claim to be able to transfer the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands and subsequently soften people up to receive yet MORE false doctrines, which can ultimately shipwreck their faith or prevent them from ever coming to salvation in Christ.
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This sweet and precious sacred passage has been deflowered and sullied by perverse lovers of self such as Jack Howell who acts under the guidance of his father, the Devil!
"If you confess with your mouth,
"Jesus is Lord,"
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead"
Jesus, who is "The Way, The Truth and The Life",
has promised "you will be SAVED". (Rom. 10:9)”
I am truly sad and sickened.
REPENT Jack Howell You have no LIGHT in your ways.
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Re: Serpent Egg's FRAUD, Lies, and Gross Violence to the Word -- tamarisk, 09:08:12 08/26/02 Mon
Noting on Romans, the 10th chapter, Sh'aul laid the groundwork in 9:30-33. The emphasis is on righteousness and why Israel(Legalist like Jackals, Dorito, etc.) lacks it. Sh'aul lays the responsibility on the individual. People like Dorito lay the responsibility on her husband and church(i.e. "I would be estranged from my husband if I left the RCC) This, BTW, makes her husband and church responsible for her sin and salvation. Dorito doesn't need a Savior. Then comes Jackals, the same form of failed theology. He tries to mix legalism and antinomienism. A toxic brew of denying the necessity of the Law as the taskmaster, while mixing Charismatic teachings on baptismal regeneration; salvation and being filled with the Holy Spirit with "evidence of speaking in unknown tongues." Again, if you have tongues and water baptism for salvation, you don't need a resurrected Mechiach as your personal savior.
Rom 10:2-4
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
(KJV)
The Kumbaya/Pacadorian types have a definate zeal for G_d, "but not according to knowledge." They constantly blame their lack of knowledge(i.e., they are, in effect, blaming G_d), and even blame others posting on forums for their foolishness. The problem is with their "improper motives" having caused them a misguided zeal for reading the Word of G_d and teaching false and wrong doctrines from Hell.
They, through "their good works," are about establishing their own daffynition of righteousness. In essence, through their own "goodness," they have saved themselves for to earn righeousness is to gain spurious righteousness. Any attempt to establish one's own righteousness is open rebellion against G_d and His method of establishing righteousness in us. As Sh'aul continues, that can only come through "the end of the law," which is Mechiach Y'shua. There is but one "catch" to the end of the law though. Y'shua is only the end, "to everyone that believeth."
The great message here is the difference between self-established and G_d established righteousness. The Jackals-Dorito dog and phoney pony show seeks only to keep men in bondage to man's self-established form of righteousness. The "accessibility" of the message of G_d's righteousness is only available through their failed doctrines of men. Through those teachings from Hell, they deny the resurrected Mechiach. The Gospel Truth is Mechiach Y'shua is alive and is living proof of G_d's righteousness.
So, salvation MUST entail the confession that Y'shua is Lord. Confession of His Lordship is to "believe in thine heart that G_d has raised him from the dead." Giving the Lord "lip service" to that fact is NOT sufficient for salvation. Confession with the mouth is evidence of genuine faith in the heart. Confession with the mouth of the Lordship and resurrection of Mechiach Y'shua does NOT bring about genuineness of belief in the heart, but it gives evidence to it. Sh'aul then goes on further, in chapter 10, to teach the ground for responsibility and the failure of responsibility through disobedience to the Gospel.
The Gospel Truth has been offered. Rejection of that timeless truth falls directly upon that person and where they will spend eternity.
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Re: Serpent Egg's Devious Ways (from another forum) -- Sola Scriptura, 19:53:24 08/25/02 Sun
Greetings Everyone!
When looking through your archives for the first time the following post jumped out at me and sounded alarm bells. I hope you will indulge my intrusion this once to draw your attention to a wrong done my brother in Christ by the impostor posting something that my brother would loathe to post.
"Date Posted: 11:37:03 08/03/02 Sat
Author: SAK-47
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 200.75.211.35
Subject: Re: Who Was E.W. Kenyon?
In reply to: Evang. Milton Manchester 's message, "Who Was E.W. Kenyon?" on 11:37:03 08/03/02 Sat
My suspicions were further piqued by this post from Mondo:
"Date Posted: 14:59:28 08/03/02 Sat
Author: Mondo
Author Host/IP: px1ar.ed.shawcable.net / 24.70.95.203
Subject: Not sure it is really SAK
In reply to: BJ 's message, "Re: Who Was E.W. Kenyon?" on 14:59:28 08/03/02 Sat
The IP# doesn't look right.
peace"
Mondo was correct. And it was not just the IP# that "didn't look right." Kenyon is the father of some of the most blasphemous heresies confronting Christendom today. Knowing this, it was only necessary to read the first "puff" sentence of the C&P allegedly by "SAK47" to remember where "Kenyon" was last discussed. It was very clear to me that SAK NEVER would endorse Kenyon as this article gushed over Kenyon.
Why do I believe it to be Jack with a proxy? During the same time frame SAK-47 had been countering Kenyon's heresy at another forum. No one even knew who Kenyon was except Jack. Jack was not only the lone objector, but he did so in a most strenuous fashion, if you will pardon the mental picture of mixing jack and the words strenuous and "fashion" together with "Jack" to illustrate a point. LOL!
While it is not my intention to clutter your forum, I would like to correct a fraudulent post by one who may only be: Jack Howell.
An alert was posted at TOT regarding this matter Sunday morning. Jack denied he was the culprit:
"Author:
Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 04:36:25 08/25/02 Sun
In reply to: This Was Posted at Char's By Serpent Egg Using SAK's Name! 04:36:25 08/25/02 Sun
"Wrong. That wasn't me, but oh well. Keep it up as you are building my case for me against you to present further evidence to Southwestern Bell Internet. I will be meeting with their local representative on Monday morning and will present all the archived posts you have posted in which you have libeled and slandered me."
Shortly after the above post: Jack single handedly in what may only be described as MANIC, began trolling and spamming TOT. Of note: a large number of those posts endorsed KENYON! He also posted as Sola Scriptura and SAK-47.
Before I leave here with no further plans to gate crash again, let me just give a short heads up about Kenyon:
~~~~~Essek William Kenyon's life and ministry were enormously impacted by such cults as Science of Mind, the Unity School of Christianity, Christian Science, and New Thought metaphysics. (E. W. Kenyon, The Father and His Family, 17th ed. (Lynnwood, WA: Kenyon's Gospel Publishing Society, 1964), 100; cf. Kenneth E. Hagin, "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith, December 1980, 14)
Many of the phrases popularized by present-day prosperity preachers, such as "What I confess, I possess," were originally coined by Kenyon.
Kenneth Hagin ... plagiarized much of Kenyon's work, including the statement, "Every man who has been 'born again' is an Incarnation, and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an Incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." (did that sink in??? think what he said!) (E. W. Kenyon, The Father and His Family, 17th ed. (Lynnwood, WA: Kenyon's Gospel Publishing Society, 1964), 100; cf. Kenneth E. Hagin, "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith, December 1980, 14)
"If Jesus' physical death could pay the penalty for Sin as some contend, then why is it necessary that a Christian die? If a Christian dies physically, does he not pay the penalty of his own sin? If physical death is the penalty for sin, then why do not the whole human race pay their own penalty, and save themselves, for all die? But we hold that the physical death of Jesus did not touch the sin issue at all." (Daniel R. McConnell, A Different Gospel (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 1988), 23, 28 note 23)
That only whets one's interest to delve further into this radical blasphemer. Recently, I have come to believe that Jack is a sociopath. I do not say that lightly. In Kenyon, teachings suggesting Jack has power and is an "Incarnation like Christ" must appeal to a man with his proclivities and delusions towards grandeur.
Lastly in really thinking about his "not pressing charges against Char" Could it also be that CANADA is just slightly out of Moore's jurisdiction???? Ya think??? Can anyone say: "SMOKE!"
Thanks for the opportunity to present a correction.
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A Very Devious FRAUD In Action -- The REAL Rev Hack Jowells, 22:57:02 08/24/02 Sat
"Did Char and BJ mention to you that they each called the Ponca City Police department to lodge fraudulent complaints against myself and Dr. Mike Kear? The attempt blew up in their faces, however, because the officer they spoke to is a personal friend of Dr. Mike's and a co-worker of the Pastor of Friendship Baptist Church of Ponca City who is the Police chaplain and who also knows me quite well."
HERE COMES THE CAP LOCK. BUCKLE IN TIGHT…..
PLEASE NOTE: MY CLASSIC PATENED REV JACK STRATEEGERY. WHEN I HAVE YOU CONCENTRATING ON MY ONE HAND……
ALWAYS…..ALWAYS…LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, KEEP YOUR EYE ON WHAT THE OTHER HAND BE DOIN!
REMEMBER: STAY ALERT, BE CERTAIN OF WHAT MY OTHER HAND IS DOING AT ALL TIMES. IT IS HOW I WORK. I DISTRACT AND CONFUSE YOU. IT IS HOW I FOOL YOU. IT IS CALLED ”DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM.” OR, “THE DIALECTIC”. IT IS SATAN’S WELL WORN TOOL. IT IS A VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL AND I HAVE BECOME……V-E-R-Y…. PROFICIENT AT IT SINCE I AM HIS CHILD.
NOTICE FIRST: YOU WILL NEVER, EVER CATCH ME DEMONSTRATING WITH EASILY UNDERSTOOD FACTS, TO ACQUIT MYSELF. YOU WILL DECLARE ME INNOCENT, JUST TO NOT HAVE TO READ MY TANGLED SPIDER’S WEB OF DECEPTION!
NOTICE TOO HOW I AM ALWAYS SAYING THAT I AM INNOCENT OR BEING FALSELY ACCUSED, I WILL ALWAYS REPLACE THE FOCUS AND SAY ”SOMEONE IS SLANDERING ME!” THEY AREN’T A CHRISTIAN! THEY HAVE TO BE A COUNTERFEIT!!!
SEE:…. I NEVER HAVE TO PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE THAT WAY BECAUSE I DISTRACT YOU TOO EASILY AND TAKE THE FOCUS OFF OF ME AS THE ISSUE. I PLAY VICTIM. OR, I SLANDER THE ACCUSER. IF I REALLY WANT TO DISTRACT YOU FROM DEMANDING “PROOF” I WILL THREATEN THE ACCUSER AND SAY I AM INVESTIGATING THEM,…… OR SUEING THEM…….OR WORKING WITH THEIR SERVER PROVIDER TO SHUT THEM DOWN…….VERY EFFECTIVE FOR LURKERS WHO WOULD OTHERWISE EXPECT PROOF OF MY OUTRAGEOUS LIES & CLAIMS.
IT THROWS THEM OFF THE PATH E-V-E-R-Y TIME!!!! I ALWAYS WILL MAKE THINGS VERY CONFUSING (ANOTHER DIALECTICAL METHOD!) AND I WILL POSTURE ALL OVER “CREATION.”
REMEMBER THIS DEVICE CALLED Argumentum ad hominem : An irrelevant attack upon a person to deflect the argument from the facts and reasons.
IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE I HAD MY SORRY BUTT COVERED, THANK GOODNESS, BECAUSE I KNEW THE POLICEMAN THAT CHAR AND BJ CALLED TO WAGE A COMPLAINT AGAINST ME, UNDERSTAND, FOLKS THAT THIS IS SMALL TOWN OKLAHOMA. THEY DIDN’T HAVE A STINKIN’ CHANCE SHORT OF MURDER!!!!! I ACE THESE DEALS ‘CUZ WE KNOW EVERYONEIN THE AREA LIKE FAMILY. (IN FACT MOST ARE FAMINL!!) THESE LOCAL POLICE ARE IN MY VERY GENEROUS POCKETS. FOR EXTRA ADDED SECURITY, I HAD A FRIEND WHO KNEW THEM TOO, JUST IN CASE. PIECE OF CAKE!! OF COURSE, I WAS GUILTY AS HELL, THAT'S WHY I DID NOT SUPPORT MY SIDE OF THIS STORY WITH FACTS. I DON’T HAVE TO, YOU ALL BELIEVE MY SLANDER, LIES AND DECEPTIVE THREATENING BALOGNA! WEREN’T YA’ALL WATCHING MY HANDS. SEE???? FOOLED YA DIDN’T I???? YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION! GOOD AREN’T I? NOT A SINGLE IDIOT CAUGHT ME, I’M SO GOOD AND I DON’T HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY WORDS. NOT WHEN THERE ARE FOOLS LIKE DORI HANGING ON MY EVERY LIE AND SLANDER.
QUESTION: WHY DIDN'T THEY ARREST ME????? BY MY OWN WORDS THE REASON WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT; "a co-worker of the Pastor of Friendship Baptist Church of Ponca City who is the Police chaplain and who also knows me quite well." IT’S GOOD ‘OL BOY LEGAL JUSTICE STSTEM! WE SHO LIKES TO DO SUM BACK SCRATCHIN IN THESE PARTS, PARDNAR.
DID EVERY ONE CATCH THAT? I DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING. DIDN’T HAVE TOO. I AM FRIENDS WITH THE OFFICER AND SHUCKED AND JIVED HIM. SO WHILE I AM HUFFING AND PUFFING AND POSTURING AND FALSELY ACCUSING OTHERS OF THE VERY EXACT THING, I AM GUILTY OF, (ANOTHER DIALECTICAL PLOY), I HAVE RE-FOCUSSED THEIR WHOLE CONVERSATION WHICH BEGAN AS A CLAIM AGAINST ME……NOW IT’S A CLAIM AGAINST THEM! I HAVE INSTEAD, SLANDERED THEM WITH THE BONUS OF BECOMING THE POOR VICTIM! ALL IN A DAY’S WORK. NO PROPLEM-O. NOW WHILE THEY ARE ALL WORRIED SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE MY GAR-BAGE. THEY ARE SHUFFLING LIKE A STREET DANCER, TRYING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES….WHAT DO I DO? …I SLITHER AWAY WITHOUT A NICK, AND NEVER EVER SUPPORTED MY SUPPOSED “INNOCENCE” ….DO YOU WISH YOU COULD BE THIS DEVIOUS???? LOTSA’ PRACTICE! SATAN STILL GUIDES MY WAYS. I AM THE REVEREND FROM HELL!
THAT IS WHY I LOVE MY TITLES. I LIE LIKE SATAN AND FOOL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. OH! I AM THEEE DEMON THEY SAY!!!
AGAIN READ ME CLOSELY: "Char and BJ EACH called the Ponca City Police department to lodge "fraudulent" complaints against myself and Dr. Mike Kear?"
DID YOU SEE HOW I HUFF AND PUFF AND NEVER DEMONSTRATE WHY AND WHAT MAKES ME INNOCENT
I ALSO USE THEIR COMPLAINTS TO BENEFIT MYSELF (ANOTHER DIALECTICAL STRATEGY) AS I SLANDER THESE WOMEN AND CALL THEM "FRADULENT" WITHOUT ONE SCINTILLA OF EVIDENCE AGAINST THEM.THAT MAKES ME A CLEVER SLANDERER. THE WAY I WORK THESE THINGS IS TO FALSELY ACCUSE OTHERS WHO EXPOSE ME….WORKS LIKE A PENTAGRAM CHARM.
NOW CATCH THIS ACTION!!!!
WATCH ME GLOAT AND STRUT IN.....P-R-I-D-E..... AT MY DECEPTION WHEN I ANNOUNCE THAT:
" The attempt blew up in their faces...."
…..REMEMBER WHY IT BLEW UP????? DID IT BACKFIRE BECAUSE JACK WAS INNOCENT?
NO!
IT “BACKFIRED” BECAUSE JACK WAS CONNECTED TO THE LAW AUTHORTIES. THE FRAUDULENT REVEREND HAS THE GONADS TO GLOAT OVER THESE WOMEN BECAUSE HE TALKED HIS WAY OUT OF IT WITH GOOD OLD BOYS IN SMALL TOWN SERFDOM.
DID JACK EVER PRESENT FACTS?
NO!
ANYONE WHO GIVES THIS MAN THE TIME OF DAY IS PLAYING WITH THE DEVIL HIMSELF!
IN THE FUTURE: WATCH BOTH HANDS. JACK IS A SERPENT.
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I struck a nerve. Jacks demons had a Sunday Romp! -- at LEAST SEVEN More Entered him! LOL. That had a Sundy Bash!, 17:11:11 08/25/02 Sun
Glad I struck a raw nerve jackie. demon jack is like chaff that the wind blows away. POOF*
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Hack Jowells Like Catching a Greased Pig -- Snake Stomper, 21:51:13 08/24/02 Sat
Author:
Rev. Jack Howell
Date Posted: 10:21:51 08/24/02 Sat
"More of BJ's lies and deceptions.
WATCH THE HANDS FOLKS. HE'S GOT DAT ONE HAND WAIVIN' ALL OVER DA PLACE! "THEY ARE LIARS!" NO FACTS. NO EVIDENCE. JUS GITS DAT HAND WAVY-LIKE ALLLLLLL OVER DA PLACE. "THEY'S LIARS" "I K-E-E-P ....T-E-L-L-I-N-G YUOZ THEY'S LIARS!!!!!"
" They say that if one repeats a lie long enough, the one telling it will eventually begin to believe it himself, and that is certainly the case with BJ and Char! They have repeated their lies and deceptions for so long, they actually believe it to be true themselves, now!"
WATCH THEM HANDS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
OL JACKALS REALLY IS GETTING FANCY WITH THE MARXIAN DIALECTICTICAL MANUEVER BECAUSE HE HAS HIS TITLE “REVEREND”…..”T-H-E” REVEREND.
ABSOLUTELY, POSSITIVELY, NO “REVEREND” WOULD BA A BOLD FACED LIAR, NOW WOULD HE???
SURELY “T-H-E” REVEREND HAS MORE CREDIBILITY THAN THE REVEREND….THAT ALONE SHOULD BE BEYOND REPROACH! SHOULD’NT IT?
”" They say that if one repeats a lie long enough, the one telling it will eventually begin to believe it himself,…..
KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIS HANDS! DO YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE BEING YANKED AROUND WITH A DOUBLE-FANCY-LIKE SUPER-DOUPER-DOUBLE MARXIAN DIALECTICTICAL MANUEVER…….
TAKE A CLOSE LOOK: “T-H-E” REVEREND IS EVEN QUOTING KARL MARX:
”" They say that if one repeats a lie long enough, the one telling it will eventually begin to believe it himself,…..
WATCH THE HANDS…..WATCH THE HANDS……WHAT IS HE ACTUALLY DOING HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN?
CAREFUL NOW, HE IS A SLIPPERY GUTTER SNIPE:
”T-H-E” REVEREND…..THE REVEREND, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN……THE REVEREND IS THE ONE WHO IS REPEATING THE LIE!!!
VERY CLEVER DEVIL.
1.) HE BEGINS BY GOING ON THE OFFENSE
2.) HE SLANDERS AND LIES AGAINST HIS OPPONENT
3.) HE QUOTES MARX
4.) HE ACCUSES OTHERS OF WHAT HE, HIMSELF IS DOING, AND FORCES THEM TO TAKE THE TIME TO DEFEND THEMSELVES
5.) WHILE YOU ARE ON THE DEFENSE, AND TRYING TO SUPPORT YOURSELF AGAINST HIS FALSE ACCUISATIONS AND FRAUD…..GUESS WHAT?
6.) REVEREND JACKALS GETS OFF ONCE AGAIN….NEVER OFFERING ANY DEMONSTRATIVE PROOF, FACTS, OR SUPPORT OF HIS SLANDER.
HE ONCE AGAIN LEAVES BEHIND A PATH OF DISTRUCTION, STRIFE AND BITTERNESS. AND ONCE AGAIN….AS USUAL, THE GUTTER SNIPE SLITHERS BACK INTO HIS DARK CRACK UNDER A ROCK IN MOORE, OKLAHOMA!
THIS IS NOT A MAN WHO WALKS IN THE LIGHT IF CHRIST JESUS.
THIS IS A COUNTERFEIT TARE AMONG THE FLOCK.
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Re: Hack Jowells Like Catching a Greased Pig -- Reading Here Demon Jack! Does Wonders for your Witness- LOL!, 16:15:51 08/25/02 Sun
JACK IS A COUNTERFEIT TARE AMONG THE FLOCK.
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Dori and JuJu Jack: An Unholy Alliance of Demons -- "The Enemy of My Enemy, Is My Friend" dori & jack's credo, 12:28:52 08/25/02 Sun
Author:
Ten Megaton Solution
(dori's former good friend and someone she claimed was "the SMARTEST man I EVER knew!" Which she oft repeated.
Date Posted: 19:21:47 08/22/02 Thu
In reply to: dori 's message, "Dolly" on 19:21:47 08/22/02 Thu
"dori says one Thing: Then Bad Mouths SAK and Sola in nearly every single post of her's at her site for revenge and spite.
EVERYTHING in dori's life is stated in reference to SAK and Sola. She is obsesses with them. Getting her "holy" digs in at every opportunity." (she is currently joining Unholy hands with Jackals at TOT doing what TMS is stating above!)
Same Jezebel manipulator she always has been. Lucy and the football games. Says one thing and never does what she says. She states she will no longer speak to sola.
She can't go toe to toe with Sola, so she announces she will no longer speak to her (but NOT STOP back stabing her!)
Yah. Yah. Yah. She pulled the "I'm leaving this forum" Routine twice in ONE month at Reagan. This is dori's game. Been there. Done that.
dori the liar. Can't trust her as far as we could get five strong men with good backs to throw her. Eh, this time she will be away a little longer because Sola Scriptura cleaned her clock.
She'll come back after her nose stops bleeding.
WHOPS!!! I was wrong. VOILA! Three Hours, using another name, and doris was back after stating she was "leaving!" LOL doris the congenital LIAR. Today, she has joined in the unholy alliance with Jackals to bash Sola and SAK. Gotta love it!
What devils. If it were not for their salvation, they would be funny.....then again, I'm "laughing in the spirit"
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Laughing in the Sprit! Rejoice! -- We Call on the LORD, For HE IS Good!, 08:16:21 08/23/02 Fri
dori’s speech is smooth as butter,
yet war is in her heart;
her words are more soothing than oil,
yet they are drawn swords.
Dori is an oily mouthed internet whore
Just like her counterfeit “reverend” friend.
They are corrupt and their ways are vile
Before a Holy G-d who sees their darkened hearts.
He who digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit he has made.
Confuse the wicked, O Lord, confound their speech,
for I see violence and strife in the city.
Day and night they prowl about on its walls;
malice and abuse are within it.
Cast your cares on the Lord
and he will sustain you;
he will never let the righteous fall.
But you, O God, will bring down the wicked
into the pit of corruption;
bloodthirsty and deceitful men
will not live out half their days.
But as for me, I trust in you.
He who digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit he has made.
”Subject: To Jack's friends and foes...
Author:
dori
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check this site out if you don't already have it. Mondo, notice Sola uses her name Dolly here. ACNR (A catholic, Not Roman), who is SAK and Tamarisk (who posts as them sometimes) are the other two sick posters. If you don't think these people were at the bottom of all this discord between you, then I don't know what else to say to convince you.
BTW, don't post there because they will just block you from reading or posting. They blocked my work PC, but I didn't post to their place from here. If you read their stuff (takes a strong stomach, BTW) you'll notice they get most of their ammo from Trinity on Trial, R1 and here. Don't give them anything to use. I just went back and banned all of the IP's they have used here so they can't read this room anymore, but they will be back, using other IP's to get in. Peace all! ”
Doris will be saying ”peace, peace” when sudden destruction over takes her! REPENT Doris! … REPENT Jackals!
He who digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit he has made.
1 Be merciful to me, O God, for men hotly pursue me;
all day long they press their attack.
2 My slanderers pursue me all day long;
many are attacking me in their pride.
3 When I am afraid,
I will trust in you.
4 In God, whose word I praise,
in God I trust; I will not be afraid.
What can mortal man do to me?
5 All day long they twist my words;
they are always plotting to harm me.
6 They conspire, they lurk,
they watch my steps,
eager to take my life.
I cry out to God Most High,
to God, who fulfills {his purpose} for me.
He sends from heaven and saves me,
rebuking those who hotly pursue me;
Selah
God sends his love and his faithfulness.
I am in the midst of lions;
I lie among ravenous beasts-
men whose teeth are spears and arrows,
whose tongues are sharp swords.
Be exalted, O God, above the heavens;
let your glory be over all the earth.
They spread a net for my feet-
I was bowed down in distress.
They dug a pit in my path-
but they have fallen into it themselves.
Selah
He who digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit he has made.
Have a Blessed day in the Lord Dear Ones!
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Re: Laughing in the Sprit! Rejoice! -- just a note, 13:19:27 08/24/02 Sat
there is no light or righteousness in doris' schemes and designs
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FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- dori's avatar, 22:23:59 08/22/02 Thu
" minder
In Response To Coinkydink
Friday August 23, 2002 at 0:14
"Mystical experience"? The book I'm writing is an attempt to convey the concept that there is a vibratonal realm that our physical senses cannot perceive, but which exists and the entrance to it is through the "third eye" which is a space between the physical eyes, but the space is a "portal" that only what I refer to as the ATTN aspect of Consciousness can pass through. Once one's ATTN is in the vibrational space, one uses one's Astral vision to "see" what Christ was talking about, but what one "sees" is in thought form, not words."
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Re: FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- HOSEA, 22:34:23 08/22/02 Thu
”dori
In Response To Margaret
Saturday August 17, 2002 at 0:36
You never did say how minder maligned Christianity today. Gerry couldn't come up with any examples either."
HOSEA my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
~~~~~Doris is perishing for her lack of knowledge. Margaret and Gerry do not have to defend their actions against a KNOWN anti Christ. minder has been exposed for all of his false teachings many, many times in the past. dori chooses to cause division and strive in pitting his philosophy of Satan up against the teachings of the Gospel. doris is a Jezebel.
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Re: FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- another installment of mindless' gospel of death, 23:45:22 08/22/02 Thu
minder
In Response To Dori
Friday August 23, 2002 at 0:29
If you are open to "hear" this, you are a Soul, and your Soul is composed of Neutral Spiritual energy, which is the same energy as God. Being Neutral, your Soul has Consciousness, which is the operational energy of the Soul. You also have a MIND knotted to your Soul. Your MIND provides the experiencing capability for your Soul. Only the Soul is permanent, unchanging, and is intended to return to God one day. Peace
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Re: FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- lurker, 23:51:13 08/22/02 Thu
dori the lost
In Response To minder
Thursday August 22, 2002 at 16:22
"True and true.. smile
As usual, one or two posts with you and I am calm again. I get so impatient with idiots. It's a great downfall of mine.
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no, it WILL be your great down fall.......REAL FAR DOWN.
SATAN IS STROAKING YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU ITCH, DARLIN.
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Re: FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- A CAtholic, NOT Roman, 11:18:03 08/23/02 Fri
dori perishes of her own choosing.
Jesus made it abundantly clear that those who are OF the Truth(that is, those who belong to HIM) hear the Truth and cherish the Truth.
dori prefers(loves) lies, that is why she does not hear or cherish the Truth. So, she perishes in lies because that is what she wants.
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Re: FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- tamarisk, 09:08:59 08/23/02 Fri
I have numerous books on the occult which refer to Minder's "Third Eye." I will offer some quotes for those having ears to hear and eyes to see will not be deceived.
Alice Bailey, an occultist, declared: "Through the practice of the power of visualization the third eye is developed. No man is a magician or worker in white magic until the third eye is opened, or in the process of opening, for it is by means of that eye that the thought form is energised, directed and controlled, and the lesser builders are swept into any particular line of activity.
There is some very revealing information found in The Power of Karma(written in 1937 by Alexander Cannon). The author says that "much of that which is prophesied in the book of Revelation is to come to fruition." He goes on to mention that those who have the mark of wisdom have nothing to fear. He then notes that "this mark of wisdom needs explanation." He indicates that those who have had superior past lives (meaning reincarnation) have been singled out for leadership. It results in seership, in clairvoyant gifts, in a type of intellect that perceives the hearts of men, their innermost ambitions, without the necessity for physical speech.
He finally explains:
"You have a literal sign upon our foreheads, placed between your eyebrows! Doubt it not! We speak whereof we know!
"Now, that sign upon the forehead is ever the mark of the soul in Christ. It is ever the mark of those aligned with the great truth of Light. It is the Mark of those who have incarnated to render unto G_d the things that are G_d's, and found a NEW ORDER in the current generation....
"The time has come to tell you that as you minister, so shall you be saved! As you join the ranks of those who presently walk with the SIGN ON THEIR FOREHEADS, so are your wants supplied by those who recompense you for the services performed to them and their children."
Is it any wonder why the Dorito of Pacadorian fame sucks up Minders teachings from Hell?
If you read Revelation 13 you will find some astonishing information. The mark that is put upon the foreheads is not the "mark of the soul of Mechiach," but rather the mark of the beast or the antichrist. Once again we can see how the occultist/New Agers such as Minder, twist the Scriptures and mane the good evil and the evil good. The Bible warns:
Isa 5:20-21
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
(KJV)
Again, if you have followed Minder's posts over the years, he believes, while sitting on his "astral turf" to "perceive the hearts of men, their innermost ambitions, their Karma, etc."
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Those With "Third Eyes" Let Them SEE!!! -- Dolly Llama, 09:32:08 08/23/02 Fri
The “Third Eye” like the Kundalini Spirit is pure demonic occultism and an abomination before the LORD! As the Hindi’s mark their foreheads with a third eye for the escape of their Kundalini spirits. Here is a write up from a sorceress explaining third eye. It is also a Masonic symbol, and an ancient Egyptian symbol (along with many pagan rites that use the third eye) It is printed on American currency.
Doris remains to remind me of a desert camel in heat sniffing the wind to have romance with any evil spirit she can sniff out from miles’ distance, and lands away! She is lured by evil, and ungodly craft like a magnet. Like deceiving spirits attract.
FROM MYSTRESS ANGELIQUE SERPENT (that ought to warn doris, but it won’t!!)
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/3rdeye.htm
THE THIRD EYE (by an anti-christ)
The third eye is a chakra that is responsible for what we call "second sight". Intuitive perception. It is by the third eye that people see ghosts, auras and other usually non-visible phenomena. The perceptions of the third eye are not limited by time or space. The Third Eye sees energy patterns, and it is not limited by distance. It's also not limited by time and space. So focusing on the Third Eye, you can see things that are happening on the other side of the world. You can see things that happened in the past. And you can see potential events that happen in the future. I don't recommend spending a lot of time doing that, as the point of power is always in the here and now. It's actually much simpler just to use it to observe your own energy patterns, to look inside of yourself, and see how you are doing.
When you close your eyes and roll them towards your forehead, in a dark room, do you see a light? If the third eye is well opened, you should see a golden glow that might appear donut-shaped. It may be an irregular glow, it may be so large that you can only see the bottom of the donut ring, or the donut may have a tiny light in the centre.
At some point, you may get a blue light appearing. It's very tiny. Muktananda referred to this as the "blue pearl of wisdom". If this light shows up, ask it to stay and guide you, and be your guide for the rest of your life. And if you ask it, then it will. And you can ask it anything because it knows everything.
Some reptiles have an "eye" on the top of their heads, that sees infrared and heat. Our third eye evolved from this, but instead of being on the surface of our skull it is deep inside, in the very centre of your head at the pineal gland. However, when most people think of the third eye, they think of it being in the centre of the forehead or between the brows. In fact the third eye is an area that goes from the tip of your nose to the top of your forehead and deep inside your brain. It has many components, including an area near the back of your sinuses that responds to emotional energy.
I want to clear up a misconception that may people have, about how psychic vision works. Most people imagine that when a psychic "sees" something she does it with her regular eyes: not so, the "second sight" is most often seen in the mind's eye. As an imaginary or internal vision. Usually it is the inward vision that shows the insights. When you think of the inward sight, an easy way to imagine it, is that your forehead has a projector lens that projects holograms onto the back of your head.
To look at your own energy, imagine you are standing behind yourself and look at yourself from the back. You may dismiss it as “only imagination.” Yet, imagination is power. Einstein said “imagination is more important than knowledge.” He ought to know, he imagined what it would be like, to be a photon and came up with E=MC2
Sometimes in a light trance or in dim light the physical and inner visions overlap, and you may see spirits or auras with your physical eyes. That is why ghosts are most often seen at twilight. The third eye is also more active in the peripheral vision, and that is why you sometimes may see things out of the corner of your eye, that vanish when you look straight at them. To see these things, keep your head and eyes still and turn your inner eye to focus on the anomaly.
Kung Fu Masters and speed readers both make use of a type of "soft focus" that expands the abilities of the peripheral vision. To try it, focus on a single object very intently, then without moving your eyeballs, let your focus soften so you can see the other objects around the one you are focusing on with equal clarity. Keep your eyes forward and contemplate what you can see in your peripheral vision.
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Re: FROM: The Twilight Zone Files -- Astonished!, 20:34:41 08/23/02 Fri
READ THIS:
minder
In Response To RonB
Friday August 23, 2002 at 19:04
" I just think he's been sold a "bill of goods."
Bless you for your concern. Perhaps the essential difference between your "bill of goods" and mine, is that I received mine from the hands of God, in the flesh, whereas you received yours from a book written by disciples of God in the flesh in the form of Christ. Peace
I'm too fatigued tonight, but someone may wish to address this.
I'm without words. Just really amazing. and dori "Bumpers" the troll, coos over him.
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LOL&L&L! -- Dolly Llama, 18:50:39 08/23/02 Fri
Did you guys catch this?
Abu Nidal found dead in an apparent suicide, from multiple machine gun wounds.
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We Will Continue To OPPOSE & EXPOSE Heretic Demon Jack! -- Jackals is a Clueless Gossip & Slanderer!, 08:52:34 08/23/02 Fri
Jack-o-demons is clueless and likes to slander and gossip and make up tales and weave lies. His demons have him confused.
Baptist History Library (not jack-o-demon's WOF heretics!)
Here are some valuable and rare materials, both new and old, for the Fundamental Baptist library. You will not find WOF heretics like "Dad" Hagin, Kenyon, Ken Copeland, Benny Hinn, and Finis Dake!
Following are some of the titles:
Acts and Monuments of the Martyrs by John Foxe (1674)
Annals of the English Bible by Christopher Anderson (1845)
Annals of the Reformation in England by John Strype (1822)
Are You a Baptist Brider?
Augustine: Father of Roman Catholicism
Baptist Historians - Biographies
Baptists Not Protestants by C.C. Carroll
Battle for the King James Bible: 1800-1870
The Beginning of Modernism by Edward Hills (1956)
A Bibliography of Baptist History
Bogomils of Bulgaria and Bosnia by L.P. Brockett (1879)
The Character of the Anabaptists by John Christian (1922)
A Concise History of the Baptists by G.H. Orchard (1855)
Declarations of the Council of Trent
Did They Dip: An Examination of the Practice of Baptism before 1641 (1896) by John Christian
The Divine Right of Infant Baptism Examined and Disproved by John Gill
Early English Baptists by Benjamin Evans (1862)
Early History of Welsh Baptists by J. Davis (1835)
Early Traces of Baptists in Britain by J.J. Goadby (1871)
Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Churches of Piedmont & the Albigenses by Peter Allix (1690)
Evils of Infant Baptism by R.B.C. Howell (1852)
Fundamentalism, Modernism, and New Evangelicalism by D.W. Cloud
General History of the Baptist Denomination in America and Elsewhere by David Benedict (1813)
The Glorious History of the English Bible by Alexander McClure (1850)
Has the Pope Apologized for Persecutions?
A History of Ancient Christians by Jean Paul Perrin (1846)
History of the Ancient Vallenses and Albigenses by George Faber (1838)
A History of the Baptists by John Christian (1922)
A History of the Baptists by Thomas Armitage (1890)
A History of the Christian Church by William Jones (1812)
History of the Donatists by David Benedict (1875)
History of the English Bible by David Cloud
History of the English Baptists by Joseph Ivimey (1811)
History of the French Bible by David Cloud
History of the Inquisition by Andrew Miller (c. 1881)
History of the Papacy by J.A. Wylie (1888)
History of Protestantism by J.A. Wylie (1899)
History of the Reformation in the Sixteenth Century by J.H. Merle d’Aubigne (1835)
History of the Reformation in Spain by Thomas McCrie (1829)
History of the Spanish Bible by D.W. Cloud
A History of the Waldenses by J.A. Wylie (1860)
The Inquisition: A Study in Absolute Catholic Power
Is Fundamentalism a Belief in Five Fundamentals?
Is There a Visible Succession of Baptist Churches? by Thomas Armitage (1890)
John Wycliffe and the Early English Bible by D.W. Cloud
The Life of Charles Haddon Spurgeon
Miller’s Church History by Andrew Miller (c. 1881)
The Pope’s Phony Apology about St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre
Protestant Persecution of Baptists in America by Joseph Banvard
Reformers and Their Stepchildren: Introduction by Leonard Verduin
Roger Williams: America's Founder of Religious Liberty
Rome and the Bible: The 19th Century by D.W. Cloud
Rome and the Harlot of Revelation
Rome Destroyed Bibles
Rome’s Crimes: Has She Repented of Them?
"Saint" Augustine Celebrations
Some Remarks on the Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Churches of Piedmont by Peter Allix (1690)
Some Remarks on the Ecclesiastical History of the Albigenses by Peter Allix (1690)
The Strange History of Pentecostalism by D.W. Cloud
The Trail of Blood by by B.H. Carroll (1931)
The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop
Waldensian Confessions of Faith
Waldensian History by J.A. Wylie (1860)
Was Peter the Bishop of Rome?
Were the Waldensians Baptists or Pedo-baptists? by John L. Waller (1849)
William Tyndale: Father of Our English Bible
A Woman Rides the Beast by Dave Hunt
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That old warrior for the faith C.H. Spurgeon said to his preacher friends, "Sell your shirt (if necessary) and buy books." He was a tremendously diligent student and had a vast library. Sound literature is worth its weight in gold, and it is worth even more than that! The faithful old Apostle, at Rome in prison awaiting his martyrdom, said to preacher Timothy, "when thou comest, bring ... the books" (2 Tim. 4:13). Amen!
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Why Won't PFAI & Jack Howell Submit To STANDARDS -- Is PFAI Just a FAKE "Shell" Game?????, 21:45:14 08/22/02 Thu
FROM another forum:
As one would expect, "Rev" Jack Howell Has No Financial Accountability and is NOT a member of Evangelical Council For Financial Accountability, or anything requiring that he submit to a STANDARD & OVERSIGHT!
Respected bodies that require STANDARDS of their members, would never accept a self appointed "bishop" with a post office box that runs his "church" out of his parent's home.
REVEREND IS A FRAUD WITH NO CHURCH. HIS "MINISTRY" IS A FRAUD THAT ASKS FOR MONEY AND WON"T ACCOUNT FOR IT. IS IT GOING TO MOM AND DAD? WHERE IS IT GOING?
At: Evangelical Council For Financial Accountability
They suggest before giving anyone money that you make sure their ministries' standards and guidelines assure you of a rights as a contributor.
Persons giving money to Jack Howell have the right to:
Know how the funds of his group are being spent.
Know what specific programs you are supporting, and what Jack expects to accomplish with your contribution. He just thinks he can ask for money and do what JACK decides to do with it.
Those giving money to him should expect to shown that Jackal's "ministry" is in compliance with federal, state, and municipal laws. He says it is. Can he prove it?
Those giving money to him should EXPECT a response to your inquiries about finances and programs especially if he is requesting money. Not have him turn on a dime and THREATEN YOU AS A "COUNTERFEIT Christian bla, bla, bla!" That dog don't hunt!
Consider that a man who appoints himself a minister (with multiple titles) who has no church, uses a post office box address, carries dog food/or feeds fish(?), for a living, is 46 years old and STILL resides with his parents.....taint exactly what one would expect to be a shining example of a very financially RESPONSIBLE man. ......But, that is just a guess. LOL!
Many experts recommend that you visit the office and program sites of an organization also to talk personally with the staff. Jack has no staff, office, church! NO MINISTRY.....IT's A FRAUD!!!!! SMOKE & MIRRORS. SHOWTIME! PLASTIC BANANAS!!!! Jingle. Jingle. Jingle.
You should be aware that the organization is well managed.
All Jack can do is threaten anyone who would expose and oppose him. That is NOT the sign of a "ministry" with nothing to hide, folks!
You should check to make sure that there is a responsible governing board and know who those board members are and how to contact them.
You should be able to prove that all appeals for funds are truthful and accurate. Jack lied about that already and attempted to dance SAK and Sola around until he was caught by them and Tamarisk.
Legitimate GOOD MINISTRIES ARE MORE THAN WILLINGLY ANSWER TOUGH QUESTIONS. THEY DO NOT TURN THE TABLES AND ATTACK THOSE WITH LIGITIMATE QUESTIONS. IS THAT TRUE OF JACK? DOES HE OFFER A FINANCIAL STATEMENT DONE BE AN INDEPENDENT ACCOUNTANTING FIRM???? NO? BEWARE!
Before you give to any ministry, like PHFFFFT, in Moore OK, ask these questions.
Is Jackals willing to supply your questions with the answers.
WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF JACK HOWELL?
Does his ministry have a clear and strong commitment to a specific project? NO?
Does Jack have an independent board accept responsibility for finances and oversee their distribution?
Are the financial records made public and audited annually by certified public accountants?
Does PFAI practice full disclosure? BIG RED FLAG!
Will PFAI offer a copy of the audited financial statements to anyone who makes a request?
How does PFAI avoid conflicts of interest? How do we know that the guy that crowned him bishop one day, isn't the same one watching the kitty?
What are Jack's guidelines and standards for donations?
Does he have in place a review procedure to assure compliance with fund-raising standards and guidelines?
LOOKS LIKE OLD JACK IS A FRAUD!!!!
BEWARE!!!!
HE HAS ALREADY LIED AND SAID IT WAS A PRIVATE REQUEST FOR FUNDS FROM "MEMBERS", BUT ANYONE CAN READ THAT HE REQUESTED MONEY FROM MEMBERS AND ALL WHO WOULD SEND MONEY.
HE'S A LIAR & FRAUD. JACK IS A WOLF TRYING TO PULL A FAST ONE.
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Re: Why Won't PFAI & Jack Howell Submit To STANDARDS -- Exposing Harry Tics, 21:54:54 08/22/02 Thu
Welcome to the Truth in Posting Reposting Jack. Under the Fair Use section of the U.S.C., I am reposting this from another website for the express purpose of correction and exhortation. ;)
"Pentecostal Faith Assemblies was organized and incorporated under the laws of the state of Oklahoma in 1993. However, it was not yet God's perfect timing for this new organization to be brought forth as a viable organization. That was to be a few years down the line. But the ground work, the foundation, was firmly established and laid in 1993. In 2001, it was time."
If Jack Howell is asking for money.....it appears that IT IS NOT "TIME"
Ever consider that, licensed, ordained, reverend, bishop, department head? Hummmmmmm?
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Jezebel Doris Caught Driving Her Famous Wedge -- Dolly Llama, 09:58:49 08/20/02 Tue
Dori: "Mondo isn't even Christian and you show him more respect than your fellow Christians. Do you hate Cahtolics that much more than atheists? "
Witnesses would say that in our history I have at times bent over backwards for you. I have offered to send you Bibles as a gift and expressly stated that they were under no obligation. They were an UNCONDITIONAL GIFT, and attempted to work with you in a private study of the Word, and within a week I pulled back a mangled and bloodied stump. I was contacting Gevalia Coffee for their catalogue so I could send you some of their wonderful coffee that I get for my husband and Mother. I even was designing a tea caddy to crochet for you to include in the package. I crochet pansies and flowers, and they are quite beautiful and coveted gifts. Everyone warned me that you are not to be trusted, and in my naïveté I ignored them. They said I was “casting pearls.” Sure enough, they had the opportunity to gloat and say “I told you so!” because I pulled back a bloodied stump within four days. But my Christian friends have to mych grace to have actually uttered the words: I told ya so. They didn’t have to. In addition to that, you abused my peace offerings and you tried to use my kindness towards you as a dividing wedge against my friends. So, doris. Been thar, Done dat.
Once again you attempt to mis-represent me and my motives. I do not hate Roman Catholics. I do, however, consider Rome the enemy of true Christianity, but that is because of its doctrines and history. I did not make Romanism what it is; I simply document it. I do not hate Roman Catholics; I hate the blasphemous Roman Catholic system. I hate it for the same reason that I hate Evolution or Communism or any other false system. I hate it because it is false yet it professes to be truth; I hate it because it stands between man and the truth; I hate it because its pompous claims have detracted from the exclusive mediatorship of Jesus Christ; I hate it because multitudes have gone out into eternity lost because of it's false gospel.
Does someone protest that it is wrong to hate even a system? The Psalmist disagrees: "Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I HATE EVERY FALSE WAY" (Psalm 119:128). The Lord Jesus Christ commended the churches for hating the deeds of the Nicolaitans, and He encouraged the churches that He also hated both the deeds and doctrine of the Nicolaitans (Rev. 2:6,15). The term "Nicolaitan" means "to conquer the people," and probably referred to the early stages of that proud hierarchical spirit which later resulted in the formation of the Roman Catholic Church.
It is a strange and fearful quirk of human nature to charge a man with being an enemy though his only motive is to preach the truth. Thus Paul inquired of the Galatians who were being led astray by false teachers: "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" (Gal. 4:16).
I don't guess doris and I will ever have an honest exchange. It is not in her spirit.
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Re: Jezebel Doris Caught Driving Her Famous Wedge -- tamarisk, 12:47:45 08/20/02 Tue
You do get an A for effort. I saw a post where Dorito gave the code to her forum to someone so they could read the posts she hid. I suspect that is what happened a few years ago when she was bounced as a mod at the St. Susan forums. She got a bit too frisky behind the scenes as the Bobblehead demon indicated she did on IM.
Dorito is incorrigible. Nutt'n more or less. She has not changed over these past 4 years nor has she learned or grown in the Lord. She will not, having the Kumbaya Krowd enabling her in her lost spiritual state.
I told the people in my Bible Study group, some having an RCC background, why I hate the Church of Rome and its false ways. I am not an apologist for Rome, nor the Neo-Evangelical/Kumbaya/Neo-pagan church movements of today. I let the RonB's/Doroto's, etc., try and justify 1600 years of heresy called the RCC. Hasn't happened yet.
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Re: Jezebel Doris Caught Driving Her Famous Wedge -- lurker, 20:30:08 08/22/02 Thu
She's BAAAAAACK!
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ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 13:08:38 08/22/02 Thu
From Doroto on the Kumbaya channel.
"You've really stooped to an all time low, you pig. Enjoy yourself and dig yourself deeper into the pit."
Strange! Wasn't that long ago Doroto was quite friendly with Basil over on Reagan. Of course, the catch was, she agreed with him(just like she does now in her association with "Rev Car Jack") because he contended with "we'uns."
Ditto with the Bobblehead Demon.
So it goes with the instability of Doroto.
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Dolly -- tamarisk, 09:33:41 08/22/02 Thu
Welcome to the Truth in Posting Reposting. Under the Fair Use section of the U.S.C., I am reposting this from another website for the express purpose of correction and exhortation. ;)
"Welcome to Friendship Baptist Church. We are a charismatic Baptist church, believing in the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
We believe that all the gifts of the Spirit found in 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 4, and Romans 12 are valid for today. Each believer is given gifts and callings from the Lord to glorify God and buid up the body of Christ. We encourage believers to seek the gifts and callings that the Lord has placed in his life."
Tamarisk Notes--In my writings titled "The Pastor, The Priest, And The 'Profit,'" I give many examples of what Modern Charismatics preach today. The above lines of this statement led themselves for toward the "Profit" side. There is great profit in perverting Acts 2:38. There is profit in linking "baptismal regeneration;" salvation by speaking in tongues by the laying on of hands or coming up out of the baptismal waters. I've personally attended Charismatic/Third Wave Pentecostal(Vineyard-Lighthouse)churches. It's a good show designed to fill the offering plate. John Wimber, founder of The Vineyard Churches of America, was a master of pragmatic preaching. It is the communist way of mind controlling the masses. If you tell a lie long enough, preach it from the pulpit, etc., the sheeple will accept it as truth.
"We believe that salvation is a gift from God and cannot be earned or maintained by any merit on our part.
We believe in the eternal security of the believer. Once truly received, salvation cannot be lost. Salvation comes from grace only through faith only in the atoning work of Jesus at Calvary."
Tamarisk Notes--The paragraph on eternal security and "Once truly received, salvation cannot be lost," is an amazing statement in light of Jackals denial of, what he terms "once saved, always saved" doctrine. This, so called, ministry must not have high standards for the people they elect to their board.(assuming they were elected and not self-appointed for life) In my home church, I put in the last paragraph concerning the Articles of Faith that the Pastor, Associate Pastors, Deacons and Deaconesses must meet annually and affirm the Mission Statement and Articles of Faith. The board needs to be in agreement, and, as I included in the statement, "Anyone not in agreement with the statement as a whole, must in writing to the Pastor, detail their disagreement." Only in agreement can the board bring the Mission Statement and Articles of Faith before the members of the congregation for their final approval. Each and every member of that church, from the pastor down to the usher, has the same, one vote in the affairs of the church.
We believe that at salvation man's sins are not only forgiven but his spirit is made alive to God by the Holy Spirit indwelling it. Man's old nature is destroyed and he is given a new nature that desires to walk in fellowship with God. Man's flesh, his unrenewed mind and body, is still with him and must be brought under control of the Holy Spirit. This is man's responsibility and his reasonable service to God.
We believe that man is made for good works. These works are to follow his salvation and glorify God. Man does not do good works to get saved or to maintain his salvation; rather, man does good works because he is saved.
Tamarisk Comments--Just what are "good works" to the Jackal, Charismatic types? What does it take to become a "member" of his organization? Can one be a member of his corporation if they DO NOT believe tongues are necessary for salvation nor do are they an indication of the indwelling of the Ruach HaKodesh, The Holy Spirit of G_d?
If someone, as a result of these forums, came to Jackals stating they wanted to be "led to the Lord," what would be his response? Since a True, New Testament Church is a Missions/Evangelistic minded church, is Jackals actively seeking new converts to Y'shua(Jesus) through fervent, effectual prayer and preaching of the word based upon the teaching of the Talmidim(disciples/apostles) of the Lord, on the streets of his town?
What about saving babies from the horrible torture of being ripped, torn and sucked out of their mothers' womb by abortion. No abortion clinc in your town, Jackals? Are you actively seeking out the 2nd and 3rd level abortionist and "clinics" in your town. Second level abortions are performed in some doctors office, while 3rd level abortions are typically performed in colleges and universities by medical students looking to make a few extra bucks. Most of the baby executions are performed in 1st level, free standing clinics. These are the known execution chambers in AmeriKa. It will take a letter writing campaign to find the others. You need to have guts and courage to send letters to other doctors, asking for their help in IDing these people. You may have to leave a letter on a posting board in a university asking for assistance in finding these people. My guess is, Jackals would be greatly intimidated by one visit or "run-in" with the police.
How about prisons Jackals? Can you minister in prison to convicts serving time on death row for murder? Child molesters, arsonists, druggies, etc? Understand Jackals, your first priority is the preach them the Gospel Truth. It doesn't matter what names they call you or what they throw at you. I've even had a Muslim threaten me with sending the "muslim hit squad" to kill me. They need Y'shua, period! I don't care what they are in for though I understand the "criminal injustice" system. I term it the "criminal injustice" system because the criminals are in charge of the justice, and you can only get the amount of justice you can afford.(again the profit)
Your typical prison inmate is a shyster, a huckster. They will attend Lord's Day services, bible studies and, even, "walk the walk, and talk the talk" while in the joint. Once paroled, as one guard confided to me, some just throw their bibles in the trash can on their way out of the prison gates. They looked holy for their years in prison, but they don't need "that Jesus stuff anymore." Those are the ones who end up dead or back in the can within a year.
Jackals has many "issues" to pray over concerning "his" ministry.
Inquiring minds just wanna know
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Jack The FRAUD Does NOT Meet Biblical Standards -- Dolly Llama, 20:38:00 08/21/02 Wed
car jack clearly DOES NOT meet the standards for leadership according to the WORD.
LEADERSHIP: Pastoral rule as opposed to deacon or trustee rule; pastors qualified according to 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 (exemplary family, no divorce, personal godliness, financially responsible, good testimony in the community, etc.)
Jack has a horrible reputation on the internet as a bully, liar, false prophet, and slanderer of Godly persons whom he does not know. Recently we have learned that he has harrassed others with dozens of proxy servers, two dozen email accounts, and he has relentlessly dogged various persons for spite. Jack is a white washed tomb of dead man's bones.
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Re: Jack The FRAUD Does NOT Meet Biblical Standards -- Dolly Llama, 20:48:55 08/21/02 Wed
HIGH STANDARDS FOR ALL CHURCH WORKERS:
The Bible requires high standards for church workers (1 Tim. 3:8-13; 1 Cor. 4:2; 2 Cor. 8:18-21; Eph. 6:21; Col. 1:7; 4:7,9; 2 Tim. 2:2). Anyone can attend the church (except heretics which have been rejected -- Titus 3:10-11), but those who assume positions within the church are representatives not only of the Lord Jesus Christ but also of the church itself; and the church’s testimony is judged by the lives of its workers. car jack drags through his muddied testimony on the forums by wafting a huge BANNER ENBLAZONED "REVEREND!!! BISHOP!!!! MUCKITY-MUCK FOR JESUS!!!
Jack could never become a humble servant. It is beneath him.
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