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Date Posted: 12:44:28 08/19/02 Mon
Author: tamarisk
Subject: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany

WRT---"Gr. Christos, 'Anointed.' - Used in N.T. 577 times. Like the name "Jesus" it has no reference to deity, but to the humanity of the Son of God, who became the Christ or the "Anointed One" 30 years after He was born of Mary. God "made" Him both Lord and Christ. The Heb. Is 'Messiah'." (Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, Finis Jennings Dake, published by Dake Bible Sales, Inc, Lawrenceville, Georgia, New Testament, p.1.)

That daffynition denies everything before Y'shua was 30 years old. It denies the virgin birth. It also denies biblical truth in Luke 1, John 1, and other places.

Dakes, Oneness Pentecostals and other strange rangers of bible doctrine deny the need for a virgin birth. A vigin birth was required for several reasons:

1. To fulfill Old Testament prophesy(Gen 3:15; Isaiah 7:14; Jeremiah 31:22)

2. To avoid the Old Testament curse on the seed of Jeconian(Jeremiah 22:24-30), yet still be able to claim the Throne of David in the kingly line

3. To be in accord with theological implications of the inspiration of the Scriptures and Mechiach's sinless humanity. Through the miraculous virgin conception, Mechiach avoided receiving a sinful nature

4. To avoid receiving a human father. Mechiach already had a Father, Abba G_d, and it would be unsuitable to have a second one

5. To avoid creating a new person, as is done in all normal conceptions.(Not sure if Dorito, Rev Jackals, etc., were "normal" conceptions, thus creating a "new person." They must be Born Again) Mary's conception of Mechiach was to be the incarnation of an ALREADY EXISTING PERSON.(Hint to Mags--The second person of the Triune G_d already existed.(John 1:1) This totally legimitizes Trinity teaching in the Old Testament and Jewish beliefs. I recited the Shema from Deurtronomy 6:4 at each and every sabbath service in the synogogue. It is the prayer on my Tallit(prayer shawl). The Hebrew word for one is 'echad, meaning "compound unity." The phrase ONE LORD means G_d has one name; it is also a testimony against polytheism. Both the unity and trinity are taught in the Old Testament in:

Gen 1:26-27
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Ps 2:7
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Isa 48:16-17
16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.(KJV)

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Re: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany -- tamarisk, 13:13:36 08/19/02 Mon