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Date Posted: 00:42:19 03/01/01 Thu
Author: Alie
Subject: Well, I would feel much more stupid to discuss THAT topic
In reply to: Kris 's message, "Thereisnt much I wouldnt put past the Plantagenets" on 06:03:18 02/28/01 Wed

It seems that Isabella's marriage with Hugh was fairly happy, after all he married her when he could no longer expect the county of Angouleme as her dowry as during their earlier engagement. Chances are that it might have been a marriage of love. Isabella got between the political lines as she was entitled to (but never really received) seizable annuities from the English king when her husband (on English territory) was a declared follower of the French king. She was accused of plotting to poison the king (I couldn't find which one) and fled to the proven refuge of Fontevraud where she stayed until her death. She's also buried there.

Alienor's daughter Joanna of Toulouse fled out of her extremely unhappy marriage with Raimond of Toulouse. She took her vows inspite of being pregnant, both mother and newborn son died very soon. Fontevraud was a traditional shelter for both Alienor's and Henry's family. Both wives of Alienor's grandfather fled to Fontevraud, and one of Henry's aunts was abbess there.

If you like to read history fiction with a sound scientific background you should ask your used bookstore or your library if they can find Maurice Druon's seven (smallish) volume series "The accursed Kings". It's a history of France and the Capet kings at roughly the same period as the Plantagenet aera.

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I think I was mixing my queens again. -- Kris, 05:02:42 03/01/01 Thu
- Overdosed on queens, huh? -- Alie, 08:33:09 03/01/01 Thu
  - Yes, that is what I have gathered.... -- Kris, 11:43:37 03/01/01 Thu
Actually Isabella married the SON of the man she was betrothed to when she met John. The Hugh she married was Hugh jr so to speak : ) (NT) -- Kris, 10:43:57 03/02/01 Fri
- There is quite a mix-up in sources as to who is who. -- Alie, 20:17:09 03/02/01 Fri
  - Now that itw isn't any longer competition voy takes over all those quirks? -- Alie, 20:22:50 03/02/01 Fri
- Found it! -- Alie, 21:00:33 03/05/01 Mon
  - I will check it out. Medieval genealogy is kinda like reading while on a REAL bad trip... everything twist around! -- Kris, 06:30:41 03/07/01 Wed
    - I stumbled on some paper that gave several names for Isabella G. It didn't click with me then, but maybe I can find it again. If I remember right - not sure about that - one of the names was Hawisa. Usually that's another form of Isabella, but it might be a contorted form of Alice (or the other way round) which sometimes is given as Adelicia. -- Alie, 19:50:21 03/07/01 Wed
      - Hey, is itw around here??? -- Alie, 19:54:50 03/07/01 Wed

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