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Date Posted: 10:39:39 06/29/15 Mon
Author: Paul
Subject: Great concept. Great clubs. But...
So I've had my clubs for over a month now and I can say without a doubt they are the best irons I have ever played with to this date. I used to play Pinhawks(also single length irons) before I switched over to 1irons so that's saying something great about your product. That said, I do find two distinct inconsistencies:
1) Single Length iron set stops at 3i. Why didn't you continue past the 3i and produce a 2i and a 1i? If loft is the only determinant of a shot's distance all things being equal and irons are more accurate than woods (based on inquiries at the golf shop and my course play) then this should have been a logical step for producing a better tee box club. I would love to see a 2i(15*) and a 1i(11*) as alternatives to the driver and fairway wood in your product line.
2) Driver and Fairway Woods are not SL. When I got my drive in the mail I was a bit down when I saw it was longer than the set of irons. This means that instead of having one swing plane you have 3(driver, fairway, iron) which defeats the purpose of the whole SL concept. Why didn't you match the wood clubs to the iron clubs to give the set a true application to the single length concept?
Looking forward to your response of my inquiries.
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Re: Great concept. Great clubs. But... -- David Lake, 05:58:14 06/30/15 Tue
There is a point of diminishing returns in adjustment of loft angle at each of the two extremes, the one being at the 19º loft angle (#3 iron) and the other being at the 59º loft angle (LW). By making a loft angle 15º (#2 iron) the vast majority of golfers would never be able to hit a shot over three feet off the ground, and even the strong golfer would see a big compression in yardage gap between the #3 and #2 irons.
All club lengths and club-head lie angles should be the same within each functional grouping of golf clubs. What you have to bear in mind is that there is a distinct difference in design function between irons, fairway woods, and drivers. An iron is designed to pinch the ball against the turf using a down and through type of swing which requires an upright swing plane and a descending swing arc into the ball. On the other hand, fairway woods are designed to sweep the ball from the turf which requires a flatter swing plane and, hence, a longer club length than an iron. A driver is designed to sweep a ball that is teed up 1" to 2" off the ground which requires an even flatter swing plane than a fairway wood and, hence, a longer club length than the other woods within a set.
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Re: Great concept. Great clubs. But... -- Paul, 12:45:48 07/02/15 Thu
Mr. Lake,
Firstly, thank you for your prompt response. The information your have provided explains quite a lot. I'm guessing then, if there is an upper limit, that there is a ratio between the length of the club and the loft angle beyond this extreme in order to maintain the desired yardage gap and if so do you know what it is??
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Re: Great concept. Great clubs. But... -- David Lake, 18:06:45 07/02/15 Thu
There is a point of diminishing returns in adjustment of club length at each of the two extremes of the W-T-F measurement ranges, the one being at the 39.9" range and above and the other being at the 32.9" and below. In either case there would be a negligible affect (if any) by further club length adjustment and, in fact, could hamper the golfer's performance. It might be of interest to note that we have had many customers over the past 17 years (women and juniors) who have W-T-F measurements in the 28" - 32.9" range that play our golf clubs and have vastly improved their games as a result. As well, we have many current and former NBA players as customers (W-T-F measurements of 41"+) because we are the only ones who can fit them properly.
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Re: Great concept. Great clubs. But... -- stephen g verbovanec (?), 14:51:21 07/02/15 Thu
Why did you leave the Pin Hawks? I have long liked the one length idea, but the 1 Irons are almost double the price?
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Re: Great concept. Great clubs. But... -- David Lake, 18:17:32 07/02/15 Thu
We never offered Pinhawks - they are a completely different company. There is a reason our golf clubs are more expensive. It has to do with the quality of the steel (ours are cast from 17-4 stainless steel instead of the much cheaper and inferior 431 steel that the Pinhawks are cast from), much tighter specification tolerances, the fact that our shafts are designed specifically for our clubheads to maximize performance as well as being inherent flex plane oriented. If not flex plane oriented the shaft will try and rotate around its axis to a position of stability during the swing which creates an oscillation of the shaft and club-head. This oscillation results in the club-head literally wobbling through impact.
The fact is that, quality wise, our golf clubs surpass anything available in the golf industry today and is the reason for our success over the past seventeen years.
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Re: Great concept. Great clubs. But... -- Steve (Fine), 15:41:41 07/08/15 Wed
Paul, I also own the complete set of One Irons and the One Iron Driver. I also would have preferred a 1 & 2 One Iron over the 5 & 7 woods, so I experimented with a Taylor Made 16 degree Hybrid fairway metal with steel stiff shaft at 42" and found it to be a good compromise for accuracy and distance.
ps: I also struggled a little with the driver being 44 inches, but in the end I did a forward press with my hands at address and it worked just fine...I for the first time have a GREAT right to left draw with it...;)
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