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Subject: Re: Professional/Amateur


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Jamie
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Date Posted: 15:21:42 06/02/03 Mon
In reply to: Justine 's message, "Re: Professional/Amateur" on 13:12:45 06/02/03 Mon
 I'm afraid this isn't the case. In the rule book, if you pass any of the teaching exams you are deemed to be by definition a professional. There are no "relevant qualifications" for amateurs.

With regard to money from demonstrations, it doesn't matter what the expenses are. The important thing is that the fee for the demo is agreed with EADA/Scottish Dancesport/WADSA etc in advance and is then paid to the governing body. What they do with the money is up to them but usually they keep a portion and give the rest to the couple "for expenses" in general, not for specifc expenditure.

The problem arises with the rule that if you "act as a teacher" (whether or not for money), you lose amateur status - but it doesn't define what acting "as a teacher" is. Hence EADA being able to exercise discretion.

>I don't know of the ruling Vesna mentioned, as I
>haven't really been following it but amateurs
>certainly used to be able to teach with the relevant
>qualifications and under a pro - they can't set up
>their own dancing school. Craig could certainly do
>this when he was still amateur as his parents have a
>school with his brother (who used to dance with Lyn
>Marriner). One of the differences is Ams are not
>allowed to run comps or dances for profit, I believe
>they can get paid for demos but only to cover
>"expenses" - but where do these end? Travel?
>Grooming? costumes? lessons required to get to that
>level etc.....
>
>In America the "elite" amateurs have permission to
>teach, and in other countries amateur is a name only,
>they are full time pros, they do not have day jobs and
>teach pretty much full time! I very much doubt Warren
>& Kristy do anything other than dance, other top
>amateurs in this country only work part time if at
>all. And this is what we are up against when we leave
>uni !!
>
>I think in every club, more experienced members
>"teach" to some extent for no reward. If they know
>what they are talking about, personally I think this
>is a good idea. It's not like they are taking
>business away from pros. However someone very nearly
>got into trouble when advertising lessons on a website
>when they were amateur. It's a very delicate area, I
>don't think EADA would sanction this unless the
>persons teaching have qualifications.
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