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Date Posted: 13:36:31 04/17/03 Thu
Author: Kharn
Author Host/IP: kharnserv.xs4all.nl / 213.84.47.237
Subject: Ehm, hello?
In reply to: eom 's message, "kharn!!" on 23:20:08 04/16/03 Wed

>Hepatitis C infection rate was in the top four.
>Cannabis use is well above average and grew steadily
>following introduction of the cannabis "cafes". The
>number of heroin addicts has almost tripled since the
>liberalisation of drug policies, and arrests for drug
>offences showed the most rapid rate of increase for
>all countries assessed.

Oh, my God...You don't mean that...liberalisation of drug laws...Means more people use drugs?! OH MY GOD IT'S TOO HORRIBLE TO EVEN COMPREHEND!

Think before you write, please.

Also, this is kind of out-dated, XTC sales are up these days, and all XTC-pills are tested by the government to make sure they're good, despite the fact that XTC is illegal. In fact, all drugs are illegal except cannabis, and the other anti-drug laws are enforced quite heavily, so I don't even know what you're blabbing about. Of course our usage is high, see above.

>Dutch per capita rates for breaking, and entering, a
>crime closely associated with drug abuse, are three
>times the rate of those in Switzerland and the US,
>four times the French rate, and 50 per cent greater
>than the German rate ( Interpol, International Crime
>Statistics, 1995 ).

Again with the Interpol. Of course, in this case, the laws don't differ that much between individual European countries.

To just state there's a direct relation is proposterous at best. We have a huge immigration problems when compared to Germany and France, and poverty problems when compared to Germany too. And we're the most densely populated country of Europe; of course we have the highest crime rates.

>The Netherlands is also recognised as one of the
>primary countries in the region for the origin and
>transit of illicit drugs, with growing concern
>expressed by neighbouring countries about drug traffic
>across their borders from The Netherlands.

Yes...And? International smuggle is their problem, basically, of course we help fight it, but are you saying we should change our laws because of what other countries say? Geee, can't remember America ever doing that.

>In all, The Netherlands prototypical image,
>promulgated by some, is not supported by the facts.
>For a conservative country that The Netherlands once
>was, these changes represent a huge swing of the
>pendulum. At the very least, given the turbulence of
>the current debate, accurate information is surely not
>too much to ask if we are to have an informed debate.

Obviously, that's why I don't appreciate this style of circle-reasoning. "Free drug laws are bad because people use more drugs", indeed.

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