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Date Posted: 14:31:32 04/12/03 Sat
Author: ��Tone Capone��
Author Host/IP: 1Cust220.tnt1.coos-bay.or.da.uu.net / 67.225.118.220
Subject: Re: Hey Gwydion, Tone...
In reply to: KSMoTO 's message, "Hey Gwydion, Tone..." on 14:17:33 04/12/03 Sat

>apart from all of the gun-control laws and what
>not...do you guys believe it's relatively safe having
>an army rifle in your home and having your kids
>holding it too?...

Yes, because they have learned that if they want to hold them, they ask me and I let them hold one and explain how dangerous they can be when used irresponsibly. Any gun is potentially deadly, whether it is an Army rifle or a single shot shotgun. The point is to teach them to be responsible and respect them. My kids know that if they touch the weapons without my permission, they are going to be severely punished.

>don't you think to the least extent that this is
>dangerous?

It is dangerous having kitchen knives took but I don't hear anyone complaining about that. Think about it, my ammo is locked up, so the worst that will happen with my M-4 is my son could pick it up and smack someone with it. The kitchen knives are put up, but not locked up... So, what's the bigger threat?

>please tell me your views on this..cause i think that
>even IF the guns aren't loaded..won't that make the
>kids used to being around guns?...and this might
>someday result in something bad..i don't know...m,aybe
>i don't see the whole picture...but why would you want
>your kids to be like that anyway?

Read my response down below. By being exposed to them, the guns lose the 'Hollywood' appeal, and are seen as more commonplace, and seen as tools. I had guns around all my life.

>(i mean are you going to be teaching them shooting
>when they get to the proper age?)

Yes, I'm teaching my oldest son now in fact.

>cause if you do...i think you're only contributing to
>a more violent world....you know guns aren't the only
>way to defend yourself...it's an effective one...but i
>don't think you should be teaching them that this
>young..ofcourse it's all up to you..and i mean no
>disrespect or belittling to your parenting or anything
>seriously....

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Sorry, so I guess the people who train Olympic shooters are contributing to this "more violent world"? I was taught to shoot at a very young age, and I'll give you three guesses to how many people I have shot at (either accidently or purposefully). Your remarks aren't disrespectful, they are ridiculous. Teaching a kid to shoot correctly along with firearm safety leads to no more acts of violence than teaching a kid to drive a car and car safety leads to driving accidents. If you approach the subject emphasizing the potential danger and the many reasons they need to respect them, in the end you have a safer operator, whether they are behind the wheel of a car, or the stock of a rifle.

As for self defense, there are other ways, but if someone is trying to break into my house, I don't know what they are carrying. A knife, a gun, maybe they are unarmed. I'm not taking any chances.

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Replies:

well you have a point in all of that... -- KSMoTO, 14:38:34 04/12/03 Sat
- Re: well you have a point in all of that... -- ��Tone Capone��, 14:46:15 04/12/03 Sat
That's not right, Tone -- Kharn, 17:24:55 04/12/03 Sat
- You've got problems... -- ��Tone Capone��, 18:16:27 04/12/03 Sat
- Wrong -- Kilus, 22:19:06 04/12/03 Sat
  - Haha... I couldn't have said it better... (n/t) -- ��Tone Capone��, 23:04:09 04/12/03 Sat
  - Primary/Intended function -- Bullock, 00:48:37 04/13/03 Sun
    - You are wrong! -- ��Tone Capone��, 01:09:16 04/13/03 Sun
      - Well, you're partially right there -- Kharn, 09:21:05 04/13/03 Sun
        Re: Well, you're partially right there -- Gwydion, 15:56:03 04/13/03 Sun
        Re: Why in God's name would you use a LETHAL weapon to shoot at dead targets when you can just as well use a non-lethal weapon. -- ��Tone Capone��, 15:58:28 04/13/03 Sun
        Heh -- Kharn, 07:41:55 04/14/03 Mon
        Re: Heh -- Kilus, 07:51:36 04/14/03 Mon
        Rockets -- Hagbard, 20:25:28 04/14/03 Mon
        Re: Heh -- Gwydion, 07:58:18 04/14/03 Mon
        Silly, katanas are more expensive over here (n/t) -- Kharn, 08:48:36 04/14/03 Mon
        Same here, but you can't shoot targets with a katana. (NT) -- Gwydion, 09:44:02 04/14/03 Mon
        Re: .22 LR ammo itself is only about $10 for a box of 500 rounds -- ��Tone Capone��, 11:13:55 04/14/03 Mon
  - Re: Wrong -- Grim, 16:35:52 04/13/03 Sun
- I concur -- Bullock, 00:38:09 04/13/03 Sun
  - Re: ...finally got my "Honorable Discharge"...no longer a SOCOM flunkie... -- ��Tone Capone��, 01:10:44 04/13/03 Sun
Re: I'll give you three guesses to how many people I have shot at (either accidently or purposefully). -- Kilus, 22:06:41 04/12/03 Sat

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