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Date Posted: 17:24:55 04/12/03 Sat
Author: Kharn
Author Host/IP: kharnserv.xs4all.nl / 213.84.47.237
Subject: That's not right, Tone
In reply to: ��Tone Capone�� 's message, "Re: Hey Gwydion, Tone..." on 14:31:32 04/12/03 Sat

> Teaching a kid to shoot correctly along
>with firearm safety leads to no more acts of violence
>than teaching a kid to drive a car and car safety
>leads to driving accidents.

I don't like this comparison or the one you made with the kitchen knife and gun.

Kitchen knives are made for cutting up meat/vegetables/etc.

Cars are made to drive.

Guns are made to kill. No matter if it's human or animal, a gun has no other function than to maim or kill. Don't name "threatening" as a function of a gun, because if it could not hurt or kill, it wouldn't be capable of being a threat, now would it?

You can't just compare guns with cars or knives that directly. We're talking about completely different things here. What KSM is trying to say, I think, is that thinking of guns as normal is thinking of maiming and killing as normal. And that's true, the moment the tool is normal, the effect is normal as well. And whether you hurt animals or humans with it is besides the point, a gun can never be considered purely as a means of defense, because it is an offensive device, like it or not.

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Replies:

You've got problems... -- ��Tone Capone��, 18:16:27 04/12/03 Sat
Wrong -- Kilus, 22:19:06 04/12/03 Sat
- Haha... I couldn't have said it better... (n/t) -- ��Tone Capone��, 23:04:09 04/12/03 Sat
- Primary/Intended function -- Bullock, 00:48:37 04/13/03 Sun
  - You are wrong! -- ��Tone Capone��, 01:09:16 04/13/03 Sun
    - Well, you're partially right there -- Kharn, 09:21:05 04/13/03 Sun
      - Re: Well, you're partially right there -- Gwydion, 15:56:03 04/13/03 Sun
      - Re: Why in God's name would you use a LETHAL weapon to shoot at dead targets when you can just as well use a non-lethal weapon. -- ��Tone Capone��, 15:58:28 04/13/03 Sun
        Heh -- Kharn, 07:41:55 04/14/03 Mon
        Re: Heh -- Kilus, 07:51:36 04/14/03 Mon
        Rockets -- Hagbard, 20:25:28 04/14/03 Mon
        Re: Heh -- Gwydion, 07:58:18 04/14/03 Mon
        Silly, katanas are more expensive over here (n/t) -- Kharn, 08:48:36 04/14/03 Mon
        Same here, but you can't shoot targets with a katana. (NT) -- Gwydion, 09:44:02 04/14/03 Mon
        Re: .22 LR ammo itself is only about $10 for a box of 500 rounds -- ��Tone Capone��, 11:13:55 04/14/03 Mon
- Re: Wrong -- Grim, 16:35:52 04/13/03 Sun
I concur -- Bullock, 00:38:09 04/13/03 Sun
- Re: ...finally got my "Honorable Discharge"...no longer a SOCOM flunkie... -- ��Tone Capone��, 01:10:44 04/13/03 Sun

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