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Subject: Re: importance of the 9:00 3km high school runner


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Date Posted: 11:25:16 03/14/01 Wed
In reply to: pistol 's message, "Re: importance of the 9:00 3km high school runner" on 11:02:10 03/14/01 Wed

It is obvious that some coaches do a much better job of recruiting. But with out scholarships to offer it is difficult to recruit out of province.

I really don't believe coaches are all that different in motivating their athletes to reach their potential. Virtually every canadian university has a distance runner that is capable of place top 60 at d1 xc cc. And most of these guys were only 8:50 types in hs.


Why would an athlete compete under a coach that did not meet their needs??? As a result many athletes have the option of choosing which coach best meets their needs(as far as i know many universities allow atheletes to continue training under their club coach).







>>>Give me a break. A coach can only go as far as
>>providing a program for their athletes. The rest is
>>up to the runner. It is ridiculous comparing the ciau
>>and ncaa. For the most part the mentality of a 10:00
>>2 miler competing for a canadian as opposed to an
>>american team are very different. For example at the
>>ci level this athlete would be a counter in xc. At
>>ncaa this athlete would not even race, and would
>>ultimately be under great preassure to improve. I
>>also suspect a 10:00 2 miler at the ncaa level would
>>have a greater desire to comitt himself to improving,
>>as opposed to a ciau runner who is an average runner
>>on the team(far less preasasure). my 2 cents.
>>
>>
>>A coach can only go as far as providing a program for
>his athlete? I believe there is alot more to being a
>(good)coach than just writing a program and expecting
>the athlete to improve. The coach has to show interest
>in his athlete, talk to him privatly about goals, how
>the body is adapting to the training and make
>appropriate adjustments. The coach has the ability to
>inspire his athletes to reach for bigger and better
>things to want to improve and not to be satisfied as a
>15:00 minute 5k runner.
> I ask why is it that the coaches at home who are
>completly involved with their athletes and have taken
>the approch that their kids can do what ever their
>peers are doing in the US, are the coaches with teh
>most sucess right now? These coaches have their
>athletes beleiving they can run competitive times,
>believing that it is not fine just to be average.
>The coach has to take some of accountabilty for what
>his athletes are achieving or not achieving.
> A 9 minute kid at home who has a coach who is truly
>commited to developing his athlete has many of the
>same advantages a 10 minute 2 miler from the US has,
>there is a drastic improvement curve for such a runner
>in the proper enviornment be it Canada or the US.
>Unless you think the american kid is more talented
>than the canadian kid and I definalty don't think so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>you are completly right! 9 minute 3k kids might not
>>>seem like anything special when compared to the 8:30
>>>kids but they sure can develop into something.
>>>Cutting these kids instead of working their asses off
>>>is definalty the wrong approach. I've seen these kids
>>>do some impressive things. Here at WVU we've had a
>lot
>>>of walk on kids at around the 10 minute 2 mile (over
>>>9:00 3000m) out of high school, who our coach has
>>>worked hard with every day. These kids worke just as
>>>hard as everyone else and the results they have
>>>produced are very important to our team. We have a
>kid
>>>who ran over 10 minutes in high school, he came here
>>>his freshmen year worked hard and two years later ran
>>>14:40's another kid ran 8:29 3000m his freshmen
>indoor
>>>year and only ran 9:50's 2 mile in high school.
>>>The 9 minute kids at home can do this and should be
>>>doing this, if the coach is paying as much attention
>>>to them as he is his faster kids. It's all about
>>>progression in this sport and some kids take a little
>>>longer to catch up.
>>>Think what a 6th or 7th man at 14:40's for 5000m
>could
>>>do at the CAIU level
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