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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 22 2004, 9:37:14
Author: MKIceman
Subject: Re: And this is called backpedaling, folks.
In reply to: Tilly 's message, "And this is called backpedaling, folks." on Thu, Apr 22 2004, 9:23:01

>>I agree to that point, and I was not implying that
>>it's bad to watch any of it or like any of it.
>
>Just the people on GAFF, right?

I don't understand the question/comment. Could you please clarify?

>>(I
>>think this is a case of people reading between the
>>lines again.) I'm merely commenting on the difference
>>between a like and an obsession (e.g., the difference
>>between liking "Nightmare on Elm Street" and being
>>moved to write porn about Freddy).
>
>Which is pretty much what GAFF mocks. Your point?

The point is affirming what the original author posted about the hypocrisy of becoming a GAFF fan to mock the same type of work that the fan themself writes.

>>Unfortunately, we're not talking about adults. We are
>>talking about people still in their formative years,
>>who, like all humans and irrelevant of age, have the
>>ability to form their own decisions.
>
>A) *You* were talking about people on GAFF who are
>into the NOES fandom, and B) I watched that movie for
>the firt time when it came out, I must have been
>around 13 or so. Did it make me unbalanced, did it
>make me decide to kill children? Well, duh. Children
>aren't stupid by default, you know. Like adults, some
>are and some aren't.

Actually, Tilly, I didn't bring it up. Former GAFFer did, and I commented on those points as well as the responses to those points.

A) The original author -- Former GAFFer -- was referring to teens (or a single teen, uncertain) who joined the GAFF board.

B) I don't recall ever stating or implying that all children are incapable of wisdom or, if exposed to violence, end up becoming criminals themselves. In fact, all my posts about age differences, on both this and the InvisionFree boards, uphold the fact that age is not necessarily a reliable or accurate indicator of maturity, though there is a relationship between age and maturity. I apologize for the misunderstanding arising from my use of the term "adults," which I use to mean "mature people."

>>Is it bad to write sexual fantasies about
>>the demonic killer? Probably.
>
>Is it bad, then, to write sexual fantasies about any
>of the anime or video game characters that even more
>people write about, as well?

Sure. That's how I feel.

>The rest of your post is just pompousity. :/

Is this an excuse for not addressing the points? Again, classic transference of the argument from the issue to the participant.

--Matt

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