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Date Posted: 04:04:50 06/27/03 Fri
Author: Fernando Powers
Subject:
Band book on income tax
In reply to:
billstoddard
's message, "Book Banned In USA!" on 00:31:39 06/24/03 Tue
Hello everyone. Here is my 2 cents. 1040 booklet that goes with the 1040 return form directs everyone to 6001, 6011, and 6012 right? Of course there's only one answer and that's yes. So let's see what 6001 says. It says everyone has to comply with regulations right? Again there is only one answer. Yes! Ok even if one disagrees with me and wants to kleang on to a statute I would still like to see the empliminting regulation under 26 CFR (not 27 or any other that does not apply). There has to be one if you disagree then tell it to the highest court in the land and if you agree let me Know which regulation under 26 CFR makes any person in the republic of the 50 states of America liable for the "income tax".
Semper Fi, Fernando Powers
U.S. Supreme Court
UNITED STATES v. MERSKY, 361 U.S. 431 (1960)
361 U.S. 431
UNITED STATES v. MERSKY ET AL.
APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF
NEW YORK. No. 31.
Argued November 10, 1959.
Decided February 23, 1960.
Once promulgated, [361 U.S. 431, 438] these regulations, called for by the statute itself, have the force of law, and violations thereof incur criminal prosecutions, just as if all the details had been incorporated into the congressional language. The result is that neither the statute nor the regulations are complete without the other, and only together do they have any force. In effect, therefore, the construction of one necessarily involves the construction of the other. [emphasis added by A.L.F.]
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Is the IRS the final word? Then read this. -- Mike Powers, 22:49:00 06/28/03 Sat
The following is from a former IRS Agent.
http://www.hsletter.com/members/Old_Mkt_Updates/Free/2002/mktupdateFree032502.html
I bet you never saw this on the mainstream media.
***From CG: "Some of you may be aware that the "Citizens Truth In Taxation Hearing" took place just this last February 27th and 28th in Washington D.C., despite our Congress, Department of Justice, and IRS refusing to attend as they had recently promised they would. This was the closing statement by Sherry Jackson, a black female and former IRS Fraud Examiner. These are important words.
"ADDRESSING THE JURY - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"
"Ladies and Gentlemen, my name is Sherry Peel Jackson. I became a Certified Public Accountant in 1987, I was an Internal Revenue Agent in the Atlanta District for 7 years, and I became a Certified Fraud Examiner in 2001. I am here to summarize the tales of ignorance and deception that you have heard over the last two days and I am here to inform you of the state of the nation so that you may choose your next course of action.
"You have heard the truth of how the Internal Revenue Service, Department of Justice, Federal Reserve and politicians have perpetuated this smoke and mirrors - dog and pony show on you the American people for over 88 years. You have heard of American families devastated by the invasion of privacy and unbridled fear placed upon them through threats of liens, levy's and even jail time. In my tenure as an IRS agent, I personally saw marriages broken, families torn apart, homes confiscated and businesses destroyed - all while my colleagues and I were out making unjust demands on the American people - without the proper authority. Now, you be the judge.
"You have seen that Commissioner Charles Rosotti, Dan Bryant, the majority of our congressional delegation and other civil servants have refused to do their jobs. It would have been as simple as answering the questions of these well-educated researchers in a public forum, such as this one. But they have reneged, so you be the judge.
"You have learned that the Constitution of the United States of America has been trampled on and ignored through allowing the privately owned Federal Reserve to create paper currency and charge you 47 million dollars in interest per hour - money coming from the mouths of your children and the college education funds of your grandchildren, all the while the children and grandchildren of the owners of the Federal Reserve will never have to work a day in their lives, and that is wrong, on so many different levels.
"And let me tell you, that as a black woman I am keenly aware of the history of slavery. But do you understand that we are all slaves to this system? Do you understand that the media and Hollywood play a part keeping the American people so fixated on Alley McBeal, WWF Smackdown, Moeisha and the Practice that we don't take time to read the Creature from Jekyll Island, study the Internal Revenue Code and learn the Constitution?
"Now, let me spend just a minute to address my culture. Do you realize that the so called black leaders make millions of dollars every year playing the "us against them" role - keeping blacks focused on the race card and away from the real issue - the theft of our future through taxation.
"These publicity mongers are well aware of the oppression brought on by
income taxation, they love to march on Washington about racial profiling and civil rights, not to say that these are not real problems, but these leaders have been too afraid to approach the powers that be and have a million man, woman, boy, girl march about economic freedom from income taxation and restoration of constitutional rights.
(And they have the nerve to call Clarence Thomas an Uncle Tom.)
"Also, there's been a lot of talk about reparations lately, but know this: If
all Americans were able to keep the money withheld from their paychecks every year, that money would enable them to home school, start their own business and boost the economy, save for college and retirement, even buy that 40 acres and a mule. So, you be the judge.
"You need to understand that with an Internal Revenue Code, Code of Federal Regulations, and other "official documents" spouting off several different definitions of United States, Internal Revenue Service and other important terms, this deception that keeps people ignorant is not a coincidence. The writers of the Code used semantics and legalese to make us think that we are required to pay the income tax and file an income tax return. Former IRS commissioner Shirley Peterson even stated that, and I quote, "Eight decades of amendments..to (the) code have produced a virtually impenetrable maze. The rules are unintelligible to most citizens. The rules are equally mysterious to many government employees who are charged with administering and enforcing the law."
End quote.
"This fraud was strung together by people like the former president that said "it depends on what your definition of is is" and "it depends on what your definition of sex is". This incident showed us that definitions are very important to politicians and lawyers, and no word is meaningless. For example, it does depend on what the definition of "source" is.
"The opposition, in an attempt to keep the sheeple in the flock, will scoff
at us and encourage unaware Americans to ridicule those of us who have been informed, saying, "these people just don't want to pay their fair share." We have already learned from a speech by former Federal Reserve Chairman Beardsley Rhuml that this country doesn't need income taxes for revenue. This money collected from our sweat and tears is used to perpetuate redistribution of wealth, among other things. But the powers that be keep beating the people over the head with this "fair share' garbage. Well, what is fair share? Haven't the families of the victims in New York City and the pentagon paid their fair share? Haven't the men and women that lost sons and daughters, husbands in wives in Vietnam, Korea and the other battles paid their fair share? So you see, this tactic to pit those that are uninformed of the income tax fraud against those who have seen the light is baseless and must be eliminated!
"The opposition also uses our religious faith to twist the meaning of
authority and to create unjust statutes. People, I know godly authority and our current system does not reflect godly authority. Many of our past and present religious leaders have been jailed for questioning authority. They have been beaten, starved and even killed for their faith and their defiance of injustice. People of America - is what you're living for worth dying for? Are you willing to take a stand? It's your choice.
"The creators of this Creature called the income tax, engineered their system to manipulate you into staying in your comfort zones. With a little bit of patriotism and a little bit of fear tactic mixed into a pot of inflation and deflation, they have been able to keep the people confused, intimidated and obedient for over 88 years.
"But now the truth about the fraudulent origin and operations of the Federal Reserve System and the Internal Revenue Service have been revealed to the American people. You can no longer claim ignorance of the truth. You must acknowledge it or reject it. The choice is yours. And the consequences of your decision will rest on the shoulders of your children and future generations of Americans.
"You can remain an informed slave or you can get off of the plantation. You can remain engrossed in fear, or you can take a stand like Patrick Henry who shouted "give me liberty or give me death." You can stay hypnotized by "As The World Turns" and "The Guiding Light", or you can turn off the bube tube and read the Constitution, then go ask your elected representatives why they refuse to follow it. Remember that those elected representatives have sworn to uphold and defend our constitution.
"Remember that each of our elected representatives has pledged to serve our country first-not a political party, or certain privileged and special
interests groups-but you, the American People. They are our public
servants.
"In closing, we have shown you the truth. Now, for the sake of our Country and our children, we ask you to choose justice over injustice, unity over division, courage over fear, truth over ignorance, and liberty over economic slavery.
"We ask you to stand with us and let the voice of freedom be heard from every corner of our great country. It is time to end this long-standing injustice and tyranny over the American People."
Thank you.
Sherry Peel Jackson, CPA Note: These comments were presented at the Close of the Citizens' Truth-In-Taxation Hearing.
Washington D.C., February 27-28, 2002
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What no cute comments on this? Where is the "pithy" (A Bill O'Rielly word) tort of ignorance regarding this? It is time now to remove the collar and leash and ask someone to explain what has not been answered. WAKE UP! -- Ifreemantoo, 13:47:56 07/02/03 Wed
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No comment because the subject is boring. In case you haven't been following along, the posters on this board are concerned with more pressing issues, such as the effect FCC dereg has had on the radio broadcasting industry and the resultant dullness of the programming content. Perhaps another board would be better venue for your ranting about the IRS. -- Law Abiding Tax Paying Citizen (Just Give Me Good Radio), 16:44:58 07/02/03 Wed
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When I wrote "... tort of ignorance" you felt compelled to answer didn't you? You ranted and rave about my earlier comparison earlier and we found out you're a cheerleader. Now you posted twice and you're not interested. Are you the moderator of this forum and who are the posters on this board? I guess I might be one of them. -- Mike Powers, 18:26:22 07/02/03 Wed
By the way Mr. Man O'Law, it is the very same FCC that your taxes are paying for, so why are you complaining now. You get what you pay for. You really don't get it do you? Let me help you understand why I call you a mindless cheerleader.
The taxes you pay supposedly go to the things you support and the things you don't support. In other words you may like supporting the Military, but you don’t wand to support the Rev. Jesse Jackson's love child, pornography art or sexual leather parties in San Fran with your tax dollar isn't that true? That is exactly what you do. Now explain to me how that makes sense?
If I place equal bets on both fighters in a boxing competition, I'll probably break even won't I. Now how did you break even giving your money to the Rev. Jesse Jackson? Your question is on the end of the issue. It should be at the beginning to understand that you pay for a problem that you don't have to pay for. If you are paying attention still, it is the FCC that is indirectly regulating what you hear and what should be important to you. Why are you surprized you pay for it ? Your tax dollars fund every side of every issue. Now that makes sense.
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No comment = can't comment. -- Mike Powers, 18:49:36 07/02/03 Wed
You are trying to save a person who has wounds to the face from a shotgun blast by using a medicated cream that will help cure his pimple problem. That makes sense too?
If the "love of money is the root of all evil" then remove the money and the evil will go to.
You can't comment because Sherry Peel Jackson, CPA former criminal investigator for the IRS got right to the heart of the problem. She knows the law and was suprised when she started to read it for herself instead of someone telling her this is what the words mean.
You dummy it's about your freedom. Your loss of freedom, my opponents loss of freedom as not justified as set out by our Constitution is now my loss of freedom and is "voluntary-compliant" slavery to those like you.
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Mindless Cheerleader -- Mike Powers, 18:55:20 07/02/03 Wed
(I know I posted this earlier, but I was concerned it might not be read)
By the way Mr. Man O'Law, it is the very same FCC that your taxes are paying for, so why are you complaining now. You get what you pay for. You really don't get it do you? Let me help you understand why I call you a mindless cheerleader.
The taxes you pay supposedly go to the things you support and the things you don't support. In other words you may like supporting the Military, but you don’t wand to support the Rev. Jesse Jackson's love child, pornography art or sexual leather parties in San Fran with your tax dollar isn't that true? That is exactly what you do. Now explain to me how that makes sense?
If I place equal bets on both fighters in a boxing competition, I'll probably break even won't I. Now how did you break even giving your money to the Rev. Jesse Jackson? Your question is on the end of the issue. It should be at the beginning to understand that you pay for a problem that you don't have to pay for. If you are paying attention still, it is the FCC that is indirectly regulating what you hear and what should be important to you. Why are you surprized you pay for it ? Your tax dollars fund every side of every issue. Now that makes sense.
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You Can't Reason With Some People, Mike! -- billstoddard, 15:35:57 07/03/03 Thu
Mike, by now I'm sure you're aware that this "Law Abiding Tax Paying Citizen" doesn't have the common sense God gave to a watermelon, which is why he cannot answer any of the questions we have raised, let alone even understand the concepts.
Posting about a segment of the entertainment industry is more important to this amoeba than the fact that our nation has entered into a new age where the Consitutitional protections of free speech have now been rendered null and void!
But since this flag waving yahoo is likely unemployed and thus not worrying about confiscatory and illegal tax policies that usurp the fruits of his labors BECAUSE HE DOESN'T PRODUCE ANY LABOR OR ANYTHING ELSE OF VALUE THAT CAN BE TAXED, he naturally has plenty of time to contemplate what he THINKS is important in his life, i.e., who will be the latest talking head on the radio to blow smoke up his ass concerning the supposed differences between demokkkrats and republikkkans. And if he gets tired of that he can always switch on Entertainment Tonight to find the answer to REALLY pressing issues such as who has bigger breasts, Britney Spears or Jack Osbourne!
To a ward of the state such as LATPC, Freedom and Liberty means the right to be able to choose between WPHT and WIP on the radio, not the right to live in a society where the government has few peacetime powers and must account for its actions to the people it supposedly serves. And FORGET about the right to free speech! Being able to call and ask a gubmit grunt about why the latest welfare check is late, or how he can obtain more food stamps is the extent of the "free speech" a parasite such as this guy would be concerned with.
Another sobering thought for tomorrow: there are now more people working for the United States government than there are working in the entire manufacturing industry. This has been true for several years now.
Happy Fourth of July!
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