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• Yes, your vote DOES matter. -- "Vince From Villanova" (Dimple that chad!), 02:21:35 05/01/03 Thu
  Here in my current home of Palm Bay, Florida, we had a special election for a vacant City Council seat on Tuesday. Sleep-deprived-me woke up late for work on Tuesday and almost decided not to vote. But then I figured, hey, I'm late anyway, so 10 more minutes won't matter, and I cast my vote.
  
  I'm glad I did: my guy won by 2 votes. If 2 other people had decided voting wasn't worth the effort, some total lightweight would've won instead.
  
  The lesson? If you're a conservative, think about how much good you can do as one person by voting. And if you're a liberal, think about how much good you can do by staying home.
  
  Okay, okay, just kidding. ;] But seriously folks, vote!
  

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  • The last time "my guy" won, I discovered that he was just as much a pork-barrelling, civil-liberties-hating demagogue as the Other Guy (That's the rule, not the exception). That's why I sat out the last election - and for the first time, felt good about my actions on Election Day. Moral: Don't vote: it just encourages them! (NT) -- Jim Walsh, 09:51:26 05/01/03 Thu
    • Heh... sounds like the guy I voted for the LAST time I was late for work. Or wait, no, last election was right after I got fired from my minimum-wage McDonald's job for tardiness, so I was unemployed then. (Hey, the way this thread is already going, you know someone was gonna toss a McD's crack at me eventually. Figured I'd just get it out of the way myself. :P ) (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (I love to see you smile!), 02:39:19 05/02/03 Fri
  • How typical is this guy -"Hey, I'm already late for work so I'll be 10 minutes more late for work , so what?" What a great attitude! "Oh, I wont' bother to call my boss and tell him I'm sorry that I'll be late for work and that I'll be there soon, I'll take 10 minutes more." I'm sorry your candidate won. If you voted for him, how good can he be? Tomorrow on your way to work, do you plan to catch a movie? (NT) -- Harry Kalish, 13:56:54 05/01/03 Thu
    • Geesh Harry, we don't hear from you for 3 years and youk come back to pick on Vince? Just ignore the first paragraph and his post does make a good point. BTW, we tried the movie thing once, the popcorn stuck in our teeth gave us away. (NT) -- Surf, 16:44:05 05/01/03 Thu
      • No, it's okay Surf. Buried under the smarmy sarcasm, he does have a valid point. Why he's so concerned with the work attendance of a washed-up radio guy living 7 states away is a mystery, but hey, no skin off my nose. It ain't him who'll get fired, and in this case, it wasn't me either. ;) (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova", 02:11:34 05/02/03 Fri
      • Lateness, voting, and movies -- Harry Kalish, 13:30:31 05/02/03 Fri
        • Just so ya know, I work 2 jobs, 1 from 5 to 10pm, and the other from 11pm to 7am. So, I sleep days. I had meant to wake up early that day to have time to vote, but slept right through the early alarm. And since the first job is a 45-minute drive from home, it was either skip voting and be late anyway, or vote and be a little later. Maybe it ain't the best work ethic, but I made my choice. Welcome back, Harry! (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Now... work on time, or X-Men 2? Hmm...), 00:40:20 05/03/03 Sat
    • Depends on the movie, Harry. If it's "The Matrix Reloaded," hell yeah! If it's "Bulletproof Monk," I'll opt for a round of mini-golf instead. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Don't worry, Harry, my job is safe.), 02:00:22 05/02/03 Fri
  • Wrong votes -- talk radio bug, 14:21:28 05/01/03 Thu
    • Yeah after that third vote I'd be pretty turned off as well but it's not voting Democrat that is the problem (although they DO seem to have a scarcity of quality people) it's the person the Democratic party has been putting forth that is the problem (NT) -- Surf - king of disjointed rambling comments, 16:41:46 05/01/03 Thu
      • Poor Dem candidates -- talk radio bug, 22:38:47 05/01/03 Thu
    • I am proud to say that I have not once voted for the winning candidate, yet I still vote. No one can blame me, but then who knows what a different mess we'd have if "my guys" all got elected. (Voting Libertarian most of the time.) When people tell me that's wasting my vote I ask them, "Do you mean you didn't waste yours?" (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 22:16:57 05/02/03 Fri
      • Yes, you're wasting your vote. Al Gore could very well have been president if not for my hero, Ralph "Kill the Corvair" Nadir - I mean Nader. And if you really don't think that would have made a difference, then you should just stop voting all together - call it a voluntary IQ disability - you might even get a tax break... (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 21:45:35 05/04/03 Sun
        • As a fellow Libertarian, let me quote Survey Guy: "Do you mean you didn't waste yours?" (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Just curious...), 05:58:49 05/05/03 Mon
          • since when is a losing vote a wasted vote? -- talk radio bug, 15:19:30 05/05/03 Mon
        • Gore? You're kidding, right? Those who voted for Nadar and Browne were telling the D's and R's that they have given them nothing to vote for. If Nadar dropped out, my guess is that they are too smart to have voted for Gore, but we'll never know. Heck, even TN voters who knew him well voted against him. (NT) -- SurveyGuy (the only vote wasted is one for an idiot or bastard), 22:06:31 05/06/03 Tue
          • "[Naderites] are too smart to have voted for Gore." Why risk it? 300 Florida Naderites could have swung the pendulum. And being that they're a pretty confused lot to begin with (check out Nader's platform sometime), they could easily have switched. You're not throwing away your vote on a sure loser only if you truly don't care which major wins. If you really think Gore and Bush are the same, you're just plain insane. You besmirch the Libertarians with that logic. (NT) -- Scott "Results Matter" Tilde, 13:13:59 05/07/03 Wed
            • I truly didn't care. I figure that I lose either way, so I vote for what I want, not for what I don't want. Now THAT would be a waste of a vote. If others would do the same, we might actually get what we want. I will say that if Hillary Clinton runs in 2004, I will vote for Bush. Some consequences are too terrible to contemplate. (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 16:38:17 05/07/03 Wed
              • Whew. Thank You! We all have our limits. (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 23:42:11 05/12/03 Mon
            • This "the R's are better then the D's" argument always bores me. It's like someone running around telling me how much better off I'll be if I get burglarized instead of being robbed. Sure, its less risky to be burglarized, but I loose in both cases! Save your "Bush is better" for your next meeting of the RNC while you all sit around praising the Patriot Act. (NT) -- richiep, 00:24:20 05/08/03 Thu
              • Bitter Bitter Bitter. So logic bores you: then just be honest with yourself and vote D next time. You'll "feel" better. It's really all the same. Sweden's just like the U.S. (NT) -- Scott "Explaining The Obvious Bores Me Too" Tilde, 23:50:21 05/12/03 Mon

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• Smerconish in for Laura Ingraham -- Alex C, 16:36:00 05/08/03 Thu
  Did anyone hear Smerconish sitting in for Laura Ingraham Wednesday night?
  To summarize:
  Philadelphia this, Philadelphia that.... Frank Rizzo Jr on... This is a national show. He couldn't think of any national topics? To be honest, he did talk about Jayna Davis, but that didn't seem to go well.
  Check out Laura Ingraham's radio show. Pretty funny, very insightful. They really like to bash Senator Byrd.
  Not sure if you can pick her up in the Philly area. I'm at Prudhoe Bay, Alaska.
  

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  • Typical Smerconish -- Vic, 21:36:38 05/08/03 Thu
    • Heh. The funniest thing he said was "I have a pretty high-tech website. I link to several historical documents." Pretty high-tech Michael. WWW links came out in 1990. (NT) -- Alex C, 16:55:27 05/10/03 Sat
  • For a national show, the best you can do is book Frank Rizzo Jr. as a guest? Tell those producers to stop playing computer solitare and make some damn phone calls to book a real guest. I guess Harry Jay Katz was unavailable. (NT) -- Bogey, 22:37:05 05/10/03 Sat

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• Fool Me Once, Shame on You. Fool Me Twice… -- Pseudonyms Uck, 12:00:41 04/17/03 Thu
  In a few hours, listeners of WPHT will learn what’s on the embarrassing tape that Michael Smerconish mentioned on yesterday’s show and today’s promos. He said something like, “As some of you may know, a tape has surfaced that has my voice on it. This tape is embarrassing to the station, my show and me. I wanted to get ahead of this one and be the one to tell you about. I checked with station lawyers and they’ve topple me I can do it. Make sure you’re tuned in at this time (5PM) tomorrow.”
  
  While the most adamant Smerconish bashers are hoping the tape has his voice urging Mayor Street to use the “entry device,” or some other incriminating utterances, this is probably another hoax or hyperbole. It’s very reminiscent of the April Fool’s gag and other bits of business he has done in an attempt to be funny.
  
  Add the fact that today (Thursday, April 17) starts the new rating book and you have a formula for an on-air prank, a ratings booster, a tune in factor.
  
  They are running promos, so there has to be a tape. Best guess? It’s a teen-aged Michael singing “Roundabout” along with the stereo, or some similarly “embarrassing” childhood moment. He just visited his old high school. And “checking with the lawyers” could mean getting clearance to play a piece of music or a tape containing voices other than his.
  
  Given the debacle of the April Fool’s prank and especially the subsequent mocking of his listeners the next day, this is a very risky stunt. How will you feel if you alter your schedule to be near a radio, only to hear an off-key version of “Starship Trooper” or some other similar nonsense? Like me, you’ll be incensed.
  
  If this is a serious issue and he’s being a stand-up guy, he deserves a lot of credit. Nobody died and made me “the knower of all things” (Irv Homer’s still alive). I admit I might be wrong about this. Still, with the ratings book starting today and a history of ill-conceived stunts…
  

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  • It's a PROMO guys. From the tone of his voice you can tell it is meant tongue-in-cheek. No one expects it to be anything serious. Get a sense of humor already. Maybe Phil Hendrie is right. (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 14:47:17 04/17/03 Thu
    • Sense of humor is intact, S.G. Hendrie is hysterical at times, a real original and very creative. This stunt is a Hendrie-wannabe, sophomoric at best. It's like WIBG running spots in the 60's that said "On Friday, at 3 O'clock, we STOP THE MUSIC. They did...for a minute...to run a contest. I expect more from a 50,000 watt, CBS O&O. (NT) -- Pseudonyms Uck, 15:07:43 04/17/03 Thu
      • Sadly, based on their track record, we have come to expect less. And they never fail to disappoint. (NT) -- Jay, 16:12:55 04/17/03 Thu
      • Apparently you got sucked in by the WIBG "stunt" and have never forgiven them. [Just kidding.] I will admit that Smerconish is no Wolfman Jack. I loved some of the Wolfman's comedy bits. Remember "Wind Me Up?" If not, i will try to rip it off a CD and stream it if you like. While not talk radio, it IS classic radio. (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 19:44:37 04/17/03 Thu
  • Give me a BREAK -- Captn Hank, 17:25:09 04/17/03 Thu
    • MS -- George, 19:08:57 04/17/03 Thu
      • All that hype, all the promotion, and no payoff. The bit put the audience to sleep. I wonder if he'll repeat the April 2nd response and attack the audience for not "getting it." I wish the hosts would stick to their core skills- it's like Jim Carrey taking dramatic roles trying to prove he can be a "serious actor." (NT) -- Jay, 19:45:49 04/17/03 Thu
        • It Gets Worse Everyday! -- Everyone, 23:11:27 04/17/03 Thu
  • Its a prelude to infomercials for the "Snore Doctor"....just watch! N/T -- Anton Geesnick, 00:22:07 04/18/03 Fri
  • The strings are showing, folks .... -- Murray Fukyuto, 01:48:56 04/18/03 Fri
    • I disagree on Hannity being "not a broadcaster": he's been doing talk-radio pretty much non-stop since he was in college. But that's just me nit-picking. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (I have WAY too much free time today.), 04:53:34 04/18/03 Fri
  • MAS -- Captn Hank, 16:01:42 04/18/03 Fri
    • Right, like you don't know. (NT) -- Stop with pretending that you dont listen., 04:13:04 04/19/03 Sat
      • Boooo! -- Captn Hank, 18:15:06 04/21/03 Mon
  • I actually heard this too and was left scratching my head. MAS sounds like a whiner these days. All the succers has gone straight to his head. The big one. :-P (NT) -- Blitz, 13:25:31 04/19/03 Sat
    • I remember Ron Dobson spent a good part of his short tenure attacking the audience. Look where it got him. (NT) -- Bogey, 11:56:38 04/20/03 Sun
      • It got him on the first flight out of town. Where is he now anyway? (NT) -- Blitz, 15:14:12 04/20/03 Sun
        • His website didn't have any employment update after DB. The odds of staying employed in talk radio grow slimmer every day with consolidation and the glut of often mediocre syndication. Look at PHT- it's got a monopoly in the market yet its heavy syndication lineup has it struggling to maintain mediocre ratings. (NT) -- Bogey, 20:03:44 04/20/03 Sun
          • Philly's problem is almost similar to where I live now: Pittsburgh. Even though we have a second talker in WPTT/1360, no one listens. Philly need a talker on 950 at the minimum. I mean, this market can't have this great of a lack of talent....or can it? (NT) -- Blitz, 20:07:59 04/20/03 Sun
            • What MAS could not do...Katz did tonight -- alex, 21:39:17 05/07/03 Wed
              • Ok, but what exactly did Katz do that you would classify as satire? Or maybe I missed that part. Or maybe I missed the satire itself. n/t (NT) -- Anton Geesnick, 22:47:23 05/07/03 Wed

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• Most annoying Commerical -- Sandy, 02:06:23 04/30/03 Wed
  To Freddy,
  I thought the "Dr. Desert Dry Commericals were clever. Sally Starr was a brilliant addition>
  

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  • Um... where did THAT come from? (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (I must be missing something here.), 05:56:44 04/30/03 Wed
    • Bumped up from from the basement Vince, even when I get around to replacing this format that will still happen. (NT) -- Surf, 14:34:53 04/30/03 Wed
  • Cher has better legs than Sally Star (NT) -- Mo, 10:13:32 04/30/03 Wed
  • Cher has better legs than Sally Star (NT) -- Mo, 10:14:28 04/30/03 Wed

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• Ann Ivory -- carl, 00:23:02 04/18/03 Fri
  Does anyone know what happened to Ann Ivory. I am still not over her.
  

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  • Then you sorely need to get a life, it's been what....two and a half years now? (NT) -- Blitz--Returning home and not impressed by Talk Radio in Philly., 13:22:54 04/19/03 Sat
  • http://www.ipphila.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/staff.detail/staffID/21 -- MD, 12:31:54 04/22/03 Tue

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• Ok now here's a link, but I have to warn you first... if you are a Hanitty fan, and that means you love love love Fox News, you just might not want to watch this, or read the transcript of this show on Australian TV. -- richiep, 10:14:12 04/17/03 Thu
  For those of you who are at least a little open minded, and can stand to see something that just might make you question what you are seeing on Fox News, you'll want to watch this video of a show called "Media Watch" that ABC does in Australia. Now for all of you Hannity followers, he might get made at you for watching this - maybe he'd even call you un-American, you'll have to just take that risk.
  
  http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2883.htm
  
  Or the transcript can be read at: http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s826189.htm
  

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  • Thank you, I just had to take a moment after watching that clip to show my appreciateion for SOMEONE who is really watching how the media is manipulating the war in an effort to make money, Good for you! Everyone should watch this clip! -- Kerianne, 20:40:45 04/17/03 Thu
  • And I should believe ABC's Australian production instead? No motivation to vilify Fox on their end, is there. Wake up, anybody with half a brain realizes that truth is the first victim of war! Please don't waste our time unless you have something really earthshaking to reveal to us. (NT) -- Bill, 09:05:42 04/19/03 Sat
    • Sure truth is the first victim, that's why you have to seek it out. I've been troubled as to why Murdoch is so in favor of this war and maybe I found out why - As old Irv used to say.. follow that money trail - ckick here to see where it might lead -- richiep, 02:10:36 04/20/03 Sun
      • Rich, all I was trying to say, is that your not going to get an ounce more of truth from ABC then Fox and vice versa. If your looking for the truth, don't waste your time with Fox, ABC et all. I did not mean to be rude or crass in my reply, and I apologize if it came off that way. (NT) -- Bill, 15:33:18 04/21/03 Mon

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• I heard a Smerconish promo this morning while listening to Imus. He is going to give his listeners his version of some unjudicious remarks that he made that someone caught on tape. That is my understanding. Could someone give a recap (someone probably will anyway) of the story since I have neither the opportunity or desire to listen to this maybe real maybe contrived latest melodrama? -- Freddy, 11:14:40 04/17/03 Thu
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  • He made a boo-boo and not with his hair-do. (NT) -- The Barber of Seville, 12:19:24 04/21/03 Mon

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• kent voss -- ted, 16:39:01 03/31/03 Mon
  what happened to kent voss show
  

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  • WWDB fired all of its talkers and flipped formats to classic 80s, and Kent Voss gave up on talk radio. Last I heard of him, he was doing some writing for Comedy Central's "The Man Show," but I don't know if he's still doing that or not. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (If you liked Voss, try Glenn Beck.), 11:21:28 04/01/03 Tue
  • If you are interested, there is a VossWorld message board that is still active. I won't post it as it attracts some Voss haters. Let me know if you are interested. (NT) -- MD, 12:37:12 04/01/03 Tue
  • kent voss -- lauren, 12:51:45 04/01/03 Tue
    • So do I, Lauren, so do I. ;) (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Money for nothin' and the chicks for free!), 14:06:18 04/01/03 Tue
    • "Amazing" indeed. And Vince is going to try to compare Glenn Beck to Voss? There's a reason why Beck's in radio and Voss is not. (NT) -- Scott "Not Missing 'DB At All, Now That You Remind Me" Tilde, 00:35:23 04/02/03 Wed
      • I made the comparison because I enjoyed Voss and Beck for many of the same reasons. And many of the complaint posts about Beck seemed a lot like people just copied old posts about Voss and swapped the names out. Maybe Ted'll like Beck, or maybe not. No biggie to me either way. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Attempting to 'splain it all to you), 01:37:33 04/04/03 Fri
  • Kent Voss Who Cares? -- Gayle, 12:57:45 04/16/03 Wed
    • kent voss -- kia, 13:23:04 04/16/03 Wed
      • Begley And Golf Channel -- Gayle, 16:46:36 04/16/03 Wed
    • I agree with you Gayle...It really is a shame - WWDB self destructed just when the world got interesting. The final days of WWDB were just AWFUL. Kent Voss was really bad but that Jay and Hillary show was absolutely UNBEARABLE. The worst radio EVER - even worse than Glenn Beck. Now THAT is bad. (NT) -- Tector Gorch, 14:34:45 04/16/03 Wed
      • kent voss who cares -- kia, 12:42:41 04/17/03 Thu
        • Radio Management -- Captn Hank, 13:41:48 04/17/03 Thu

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• City Paper Article...WHAT -- Freddy, 10:32:30 04/15/03 Tue
  Did anybody read the "City Paper" article last week on how blacks and whites differ on their support of the Iraqi war, featuring comments by Reggie Bryant and Dom G.? A word about WHAT. Reggie Bryant has some brains but he is clearly a race baiter. Karen Warrington is a functional illiterate who specializes in prefacing every remark with "in terms of" to give her the false veneer of having acquired some degree of formal education. And Mary Mason, what else can you conclude except that she is a social retard and stupid?
  

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  • That sounds about right. WHAT is just totally unlistenable, but serves a purpose: Whenever I get too optimistic about the collective intelligence in this country, all I have to do is tune in 1340 for about 5 minutes and I'm depressed for a week. (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 12:54:53 04/15/03 Tue
    • WHAT - intellectual midget radio chat -- talk radio bug, 14:35:57 04/16/03 Wed
      • WHAT-intellectual midget talk -- Bob, 20:11:19 04/16/03 Wed

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• Rollye James set to return to syndication -- "Vince From Villanova" (lobbying for Florida affliates as we speak), 02:07:38 04/05/03 Sat
  Rollye James has set a tentative starting date for her new syndicated show, Monday, June 2nd. Direct quote from her website: "If you're not hearing me now (either on WPHT or online) it's a good bet you will be in a couple of months," thus implying an extensive rollout, which in turn implies a major network behind her syndication. Details are few on her website, but she promises more info is coming soon.
  
  http://www.rollye.net
  

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  • Rollye -- Captn Hank, 10:33:35 04/06/03 Sun
  • Yaaaaay! You go, girl! (NT) -- Jim Walsh, 22:09:28 04/15/03 Tue

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• Glenn Beck caused me to change my pre-set....... -- Tector Gorch, 00:03:17 04/10/03 Thu
  That's it - because of this self righteous blowhard I finally had to take 1210 off the pre-set on my stereo at home. His show already is pretty unbearable to begin with. Who needs this morning zoo type moron talking down to us??How the hell did HE get syndicated?? But the final straw is his long extended over dramatic pauses....jeez I work nights and I go to bed about 5 or 6 in the morning...sometimes I wake up and turn on the stereo right above my my head and when I hear silence, naturally being half asleep I turn the volume all the way up - then this idiot's voice blasts me right off the bed. So 1210 will NOT be heard when I am home...not like I am missing anything anyway. I basically agree with the viewpoint of everybody on the station regarding the war in Iraq but it is BORING just hearing the same viewpoint all day long. Glenn Beck is easily the worst on the station but with the exception of Rollye James the rest of the station is a joke too.
  

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  • Right -- U. R. Right, 10:18:56 04/10/03 Thu
    • Anyone who was ever a DJ just can't be a talk show host. Hell, we have Limbaugh, Beck and Katz to prove it. Rollye's still a DJ! And a talk show host. Whoops - that's impossible. What's phony about Beck? The news he reads, the stories he tells or the speech he made at the rally? Or is it because he likes to pause occasionally? You blocked Fox News Channel? At least it's fair and balanced at your place... Maybe you should limit yourself to KYW and C-SPAN. (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 14:53:48 04/10/03 Thu
    • my problem with Beck..... -- Tector Gorch, 16:35:13 04/10/03 Thu
    • I don't care if Glenn Beck was once a DJ - what I don't like is that he acts as if he is smarter than the rest of us. Dom Giordano has that same condescending attitude only he is not as outwardly obnoxious about it - although his show is even worse than Beck's because he doesn't have the ability to do some occasionally funny voices. I don't think Smerconish is not a phony though - he has always been a pretty consistant conservative...even before it was trendy. (NT) -- Tector Gorch, 16:58:45 04/10/03 Thu
      • Biggest Phoney of all -- Mickey, 11:54:52 04/11/03 Fri
  • Beck -- Captn Hank, 11:08:58 04/10/03 Thu
    • Whoa, a news/talk host using big news as a ratings boost? Holy cow! What an unprecedented and shocking event! My goodness, that's never happened before! Ever! Not once! (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!), 12:10:00 04/10/03 Thu
      • Vince.......!!!!! -- Captn Hank, 12:14:23 04/10/03 Thu
        • I don't have to admit anything. I don't know Glenn Beck personally, and in the absence of overt acts demonstrating his phoniness, I simply can't say whether he is (or isn't, for that matter) a phony. What evidence do you have that he's a phony? (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (So easy to say, so hard to prove...), 01:40:45 04/11/03 Fri
  • Scott are you really Mike Savage? The way you write sounds just like him! (and no, that's not as a compliment) As for talk radio, I'm down to only about 15 minutes a day now - as the old saying goes, you can't grow your mind if you pull it in only one direction - talk radio use to be about ideas - now its just all one sided propaganda (even if is was what I 100% agree with, that would suck) - you need to hear all sides to learn - sadly those days are long gone. (NT) -- richiep, 15:48:40 04/10/03 Thu
    • I do take the Michael Savage comparison as a compliment, thanks - but I've toned down my rhetoric for this board! Seriously, I think most who post here are just old crusties longing for the old days of WWDB. Y'all can't seem to stand anyone on 1210 outside of Rollye. I guess there's always NPR and WHAT... (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 01:20:09 04/11/03 Fri
      • If you pick an "old crustie," it will never heal. Click on this Scott, if you can do that and read at the same time. -- Pseudonyms Uck...but they beat the Hell out of name-calling., 11:35:09 04/11/03 Fri
        • Whew. Cut back on the caffeine, dude. You remember talk radio from 30 years ago? Was it better than today? (NT) -- ScottTilde - I struck a nerve, 11:45:47 04/14/03 Mon
          • Don't know about 30 years ago but I imagine it was pretty good back then. It certainly was better 15 to 20 years ago than it is now. Talk radio in Philadelphia has gotten progressively worse...like radio in general. A dying medium really. (NT) -- Tector Gorch, 14:15:29 04/14/03 Mon
      • old crustie missing WWDB....yeah that could be me -- Tector Gorch, 19:33:25 04/11/03 Fri
  • Beck is a self righteous blow hard that loves the sound of his own voice and lack of it in those unnecessary pauses. I can no longer tolerate him or the sound of his voice. Should we start the count down calendar or is it already ticking away?? (NT) -- mediaman, 20:28:09 04/11/03 Fri
  • Beck just can't win with you guys. He's criticized when he's talking, then he's criticized when he stops talking. Maybe those pregnant pauses indicate a disability. Maybe he has a time perception problem. He gets loud sometimes -- maybe he has a hearing problem. Aren't you ashamed of yourselves? You'd pause for 18 seconds if you forgot what you were talking about. How have we become so intolerant?! (NT) -- SurveyGuy (with tongue in cheek ; actually more neutral about Beck. ), 21:39:39 04/11/03 Fri

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• Jeff Katz..... -- Tector Gorch, 18:37:51 04/10/03 Thu
  Why is it that Jeff Katz has to apologize before attacks something stupid the Republicans are doing but not when he goes after the Democrats??? I hear occassional flashes of Libertarian intelligence from this guy but other times he sounds just like most everybody else on that station.
  

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  • ah... maybe because he knows his audience! (NT) -- richiep, 18:49:45 04/10/03 Thu
    • yeah....I figured somebody would say this. This is true but it would be a lot more interesting if he would let out his true feelings and not feel the need to appease his conservative audience. I could be wrong but I think he is smarter than this. (NT) -- Tector Gorch, 19:03:16 04/10/03 Thu
  • Probably because, as a Libertarian, he feels a closer affinity to Republicans than Democrats. Democrats are never going to pay Libertarians heed. Republicans occasionally do. Libertarians know the only way they're going to get any common sense into government is through Repubs, not Dems. Hey, am I the only one who's not cynical on this board? What's wrong with me? (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 01:11:53 04/11/03 Fri
    • Scott, I'm a Libertarian and I don't feel a closer affinity to either party and I don't think Katz should either but then again I don't have a radio show that depends on ratings so I don't have to kiss anybody's ass - maybe he just HAS to. (NT) -- Tector Gorch, 20:17:05 04/11/03 Fri
      • So Tec, you really think that libertarians have an equal chance of getting an audience with either Repubs or Dems? Libertarians want a smaller government. Dems don't. Repubs say they do and some actually do. Those have got to be the better odds, no? (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 11:53:23 04/14/03 Mon
        • You do have a point there Scott. If the Libertarians have a chance with either party it would be the Republicans...then again I was NEVER a Republican. I was a Democrat before I woke up. Thankyou Irv Homer. My point was really that I wanted Jeff Katz to just speak his mind - if indeed he really has something worth saying. I'm still not sure yet with him - but he he is the ONLY one on the station with some potential. (NT) -- Tector Gorch, 14:03:32 04/14/03 Mon
  • I do sense Katz straining at the bit from time to time but he learns from his mistakes. He laced into President Bush very early is his tenure on WPHT much to the chagrin of his listeners and to recompense he had to artfully retract and kiss the ass of his collective audience for many moons. (pun intentional) (NT) -- Freddy, 11:05:55 04/11/03 Fri
    • How Long Is Jeff Staying -- James, 11:32:09 04/11/03 Fri
      • Katz started around 9-17-01 as a "sub" for Dom who was "subbing" for Dr. Laura who never returned after 9-11. (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 11:48:56 04/14/03 Mon
  • Katz -- Hondo, 19:09:24 04/13/03 Sun

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• So here it is -- richiep, 20:43:19 04/13/03 Sun
  I was wondering how long it would take, but sure as two comes after one, now Bush is holding his 6 shooter by his side, and talking tough to Syria. Oh the joy. no one like Saddam (even Bin Laden) and just about the whole world is happy to see him gone, but what about Syria? What will the world say to this talk coming from Bush now? Not to mention that Syria is not a beaten down, weaken nation like Iraq was. Read the story at:
  http://www.msnbc.com/news/888057.asp?0cv=CB10
  

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  • click here for the link let me see if I still remember how to do HTML - it's been a while! LOL (NT) -- richiep, 20:47:26 04/13/03 Sun

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• Jerry Long of the Sturdy Beggars in today's Inquirer -- Rockfor, 09:40:31 04/08/03 Tue
  Think you know what patriotism is?
  
  By Jerry Long
  
  I've always had a fairly simple definition of patriotism: You can take pride in being an American and still dislike Lee Greenwood songs.
  
  While Americans may not know the nationalities of the Sept. 11 hijackers, let alone the members of the Carlyle Group, we all claim to know what is or isn't patriotic in time of war. But do we?
  
  If people incinerate Dixie Chicks CDs while remaining uninterested in the number of innocent lives our bombs have incinerated, are they patriots? Second-tier celebrities Mike Farrell and Janeane Garofalo are vilified for their positions, but third-tier celebrity Ben Stein can declare Iraq would be a "cakewalk." Is that patriotic?
  
  If Gen. Richard Myers labels criticism of the battle plan by retired military men concerned for the safety of our soldiers as "harmful to our troops," what of the Perles and Wolfowitzes and Kristols who did so much to bring about this war while painting scenarios of a flower-strewn frosting trot? Did that support the troops?
  
  Many who have never seen combat have found a fail-safe way to prove they are patriots: They tell us they are. William Bennett, who never fought for anything more consequential than grant money, writing a book titled Why We Fight might not be as morally leprous as the jingoistic professor in All Quiet On The Western Front, but is it patriotism?
  
  As for the media, in the months preceding our invasion, there was so much laughter at Pentagon press briefings reporters should have been charged a two-drink minimum. Was that patriotism?
  
  Cable news programs will exhibit our weaponry, they will explain the ingenious capability with which it can kill... but they will not show us the dead. They will not show us the blood-spattered marketplace, the chunks of flesh, the severed head, the liquefied remains. Those images are reserved for the rest of the world.
  Yet these same news organizations, which don't give a moment's thought to how the average Egyptian may view "situation room" set designs of Americans literally walking all over a map of the Middle East, will invariably ask themselves in sonorous tones: "Why do they hate us?" And nothing in the conclusions they draw will discourage an average citizen from believing that an Iraqi teenager who lost his entire family in a bombing raid hates us because he, in the words of our President, "hates our freedom." Is that patriotism?
  
  Saddam is a butcher... but he always was. And it would have been nice if tough-talking Don Rumsfeld, during one of his early '80s grovels to Baghdad, in lieu of warm handshakes and canape nibbling, had shot him. It would be even nicer if so many of our leaders had not chosen to embed themselves with profit.
  
  Dick Cheney amassed a fortune peddling connections made during the first Gulf War. Did he give any of that money to the families of the 148 Americans who died to win it?
  Henry Kissinger and George Mitchell fled the 9/11 commission rather than reveal, or discontinue working for, their international clients. Vast bipartisan armies of retired politicians are fanned out over Capitol Hill, dedicated to maintaining the status quo on the security of our nuclear plants, food and water; representing the interests of foreign governments and multinational corporations, with no greater concern for future ramifications beyond their billable time for the next quarter. Is war profiteering by lobbyists the same as patriotism?
  
  Just before his Oval Office speech announcing war, President Bush was shown joking with the makeup assistant, pumping his fist, and exclaiming, "I feel good." And while I'm unconditionally uninterested in how he feels, I do care what he thinks.
  
  Does he truly think God has called him to fight evil? How does God tell him which evil to fight? How much evil will God sanction to destroy a great evil? And... if he knew this war would result in only one dead Iraqi child and one brave 20-year-old's casket on the tarmac at Dover, would Jesus "feel good" about starting it?
  Or aren't those the thoughts of a patriot?
  
  Jerry Long (JerryBeggar@aol.com ) and his brother Joe are known as the satirists the Sturdy Beggars
  

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  • C'mon, this board loads slowly enough as it is. Can't you lefties just provide a link to this stuff like the rest of us do? E-mail me and I'll provide you with the HTML tags. Is it just me or is this guy one of the most tedious reads anywhere? I can just imagine what his 'satire' is like. On his own we'll call him "Ruddy Whiner". (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 15:47:52 04/08/03 Tue
    • Scott... Oh if only I had such a closed mind as you do, my life would be so easy - I would just tune into my leaders to see how I'm supposed to think. When Clinton was in office, there was just no way to show the extremists, the "true-believers", the Clintonites, just how bad his policies or actions were. Now we have the other side of that coin - we have a president who the rightists, the "true-believers", the Bushites, say how dare you condemn this man!! -- Richiep, 18:24:52 04/08/03 Tue
      • Richie, you've trumped me in the closed mind sweepstakes - I don't recall locking step with Bush on this board. But bitter liberals who profess hatred for Bush and the administration, and then expect their political views to be taken seriously are going to have to try a little harder. You're free to condemn Bush, but you'd better come up with a better argument than "they're only in it for Haliburton!" That stuff don't flush with the thinking classes. (NT) -- Scott Tilde - A mind is a terrible thing... and it must be stopped!, 18:50:49 04/08/03 Tue
        • You sound just like the "liberals" who you claim are nothing but bitter. No matter what I say, or any point I make, your answer would be "Oh you're just a Bush hater" instead of their line of "Oh you're just a Clinton hater" Clinton was a lousy President who cared nothing about the Constitution, Bush is a lousy President that cares nothing about the Constitution. But you and the Clintonites will never see it because you refuse to. (NT) -- Richiep, 20:22:01 04/08/03 Tue
          • Richie, I'm getting your point that neither Prez is perfect. Being a 'small L' libertarian at heart, I'm not totally happy with either. But I maintain that Bush is far more accountable to the Constitution than Clinton. Unfortunately, both the Democratic presidents of my adult lifetime - Carter and Clinton, weren't stellar examples of accountability. Both sacrificed American security to political correctness. [click for more... if you dare] -- Scott Tilde, 00:55:14 04/09/03 Wed
    • I once watched their TV show and I was amazed that grown men in their 50s would be still be trying to imitate saturday night live, second city, monty python. Add that to the crappy production values and you have to wonder how much these guys have to pay the inquirer for space on their editorial page. (NT) -- Bring back Mort Sahl, 13:31:54 04/11/03 Fri
  • By the way, I never heard these guys when they were on... what, WPHT? Were they entertaining? Strident like this piece? Anybody ever hear them? (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 18:55:21 04/08/03 Tue
    • They were great on 'PHT (NT) -- Chad, 20:40:51 04/08/03 Tue
      • No, they sucked! Liberal pointless humor at its best (sic) (NT) -- The Rock - back to deal with the dolt Liberals of the world, 23:42:21 04/08/03 Tue
        • No, they were great! (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Okay, your turn...), 00:38:16 04/09/03 Wed
          • Oh this is just great! Could you guys list your political affiliation when you shoot your one-liners out? Can anybody go two sentences here? What was good? What sucked?? (NT) -- Tilde - Lookin' For Truth, 01:02:57 04/09/03 Wed
            • Sorry, that was too good of an opportunity to pass up. ;) Anywho, I'm conservative/libertarian, but I like any clever political satire, no matter who is being skewered. During the SNL's 2000 Presidential Debate, I was laughing equally hard at the Bush and Gore impersonators. And while the Brothers Long aren't ready for a network sitcom, I liked their schtick, even when I disagreed with them. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Skewer Clinton? Parody. Bush? Disrespect.), 06:44:31 04/09/03 Wed
            • Scott, they were part of the "return to talk" format, including "Scoot," Jay and Hilarie, et al. They were on Saturday nights. Most of their "bits" were long and tedious. Long bits, bad song parodies, weak impressions...kind of like SNL in the early 80's. Their return last year was much the same. (NT) -- Pseudonyms Uck, 07:19:56 04/09/03 Wed
              • Sounds like The Beggars would be a natural for NPR or PRI... I still miss 'Scoot'. He's the one host I could listen to regularly on the newly revived WPHT. The Inquirer TV critics on Saturday were a blast too - Gail Shister got out a line about lesbians about once every five minutes. Don Lancer's talks show was also a hoot. I should've airchecked those days. (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 11:57:21 04/09/03 Wed
  • The beggars were great with observational humor but when they veered off into politics they morphed into boring instantly. The humor was forced and message filled. A sure recipe for the unfunny. (NT) -- Freddy, 10:41:58 04/09/03 Wed
  • Ramblings in reply to Jerry... -- Rebut, 17:16:33 04/10/03 Thu

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• There’s No Fool Like An April Fool! -- Pseudonyms Uck, but I still use mine., 15:40:47 04/03/03 Thu
  I am not now nor have I ever been a Michael Smerconish fan. I find him self-serving, self-promoting and now…self-destructive.
  
  Michael staged a Phil Hendrie-like April fool’s prank. Not having Hendrie-like talent, he used another person as the “phony voice.” Someone pretended to be a U.S. Senator who was supporting a ludicrous bill to make people plug up one nostril to save the planet’s oxygen. Insipid, but innocuous enough, until…
  
  The next day he accused his listeners of being stupid for not realizing that it was an April Fool’s prank. He went on and on about how he thought his audience was smarter than that. He wasn’t kidding this time; he took some real digs at his audience. Way to boost that 2.9 into the stratosphere, Mike! Yeah, yeah, the trends are up, welcome to wartime talk radio.
  
  It’s interesting to note that after Michael’s show, Jeff Katz sounded embarrassed when he said he wasn’t doing a April Fool’s bit because of the “tone of the times.” It sounded like he was embarrassed at Michael’s version of Hendrie Light.
  
  It was a bad bit followed the next day by a thoughtless assessment of Michael’s audience. As someone with current inside contacts, I can tell you he is pretty universally disliked among most ‘PHT employees, along with his “overqualified intern,” for acting better than everyone. Pity, he could have been a great leader of a great talk team. Maybe he’ll go to CNN full time.
  

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  • Very insightful and well-written post. I wish these stupid April Fools gags would go away, except radio personalities keep doing them (rather unsuccessfully I might add). It's the one day of the year non-funny radio personalities try to be humorous, and the unfunny streak remains unbroken. Katz got it right. Maybe the "Coalition to Ban Rich Now" can re-group and focus their energies on abolishing stupid attempts at April Fools humor. (NT) -- Jay, 17:50:34 04/03/03 Thu
    • The Coaltion to Ban Rich Now believes that Rich was fooled by the joke, yet still insists he was just playing along when his friends and family ridicule him. (NT) -- Paid for by the Coalition To Ban Rich Now, 02:43:15 04/04/03 Fri
      • The Coaltion to Ban Rich Now cannot claim nor does it confirm that he has friends. (NT) -- Paid for by the Coalition To Ban Rich Now, 02:46:39 04/04/03 Fri
  • You guys do know that Irv Homer did that same bit several years ago. My wife recongnized it before Michael even launched into the full premise. I guess stealing bits that work is standard. Nothing new under the sun. What is disturbing is not that some didn't realize it was a joke, but that based on some of the stuff that comes out of Congress, it is so easily believed. (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 09:49:46 04/04/03 Fri
  • Why is that everytime P.U. posts I shudder and wonder, "Oh no, what now?" I'd like to remind people posters are responsible for their own posts and do not always reflect the opinions of the Board Moderators. Having said that let me say I didn't hear the bit but the aftermath / audiance critique made me squirm in discomfort. (NT) -- Surf - Can I take the tissue out of my nose now?, 14:50:07 04/04/03 Fri
  • I must add that the "joke" was soooo un-funny. The more I listen to MAS the more conceited he sounds. I half expect that he has a hand imprint on his shirt so he knows where to pat himself on the back. (NT) -- Jason, 18:41:28 04/04/03 Fri
  • I have also noticed how MAS and Katz do not speak to each other in the croos-over between their shows. Katz and Dom G do. MAS and Katz must really despise each other. (NT) -- Jason, 18:45:32 04/04/03 Fri
    • Wrong...several times MAS and Katz have done the crossover. Can you blame Katz for being jealous, he was only spanked by MAS, booted to a lesser spot! (NT) -- J. Mostel, tired of these lame posts, 11:35:46 04/05/03 Sat
  • Perhaps if the lifespan of a PHT employee was longer than 9.3 months, they could get to know Smerconish better. Don't try to turn him into an IMUS tyrant, the shoe just doesn't fit. (NT) -- J. Mostel, 11:38:29 04/05/03 Sat
    • Josh, the people I know inside WPHT have worked there for much longer. than 9.3 months. Michael isn't IMUS, he's just not a nice person. And the last "crossover" between Jeff and Michael was almost a year ago.Jeff spanked? Not at all. Michael was at the right place at the right time. He "left" because he refused to settle a lawsuit. Viacom management was wrong (according to the ratings) when they brought him back. (NT) -- Pseudonyms Uck, 11:53:50 04/05/03 Sat
      • mas (NT) -- Mark--He used to be great entertainment, TWO years ago., 18:08:43 04/05/03 Sat
        • inside scoop -- henry, 12:13:54 04/08/03 Tue
          • That's pretty incredible stuff. That place sure sounds dysfunctional- please post more!Is the situation similar at KYW where mas does his commentaries? Sure would like to hear from a KYW insider. (NT) -- Jay, 15:20:13 04/08/03 Tue
      • there are 4....only 4 (and one may be quitting soon) who have been there more than 18 months..... (NT) -- sick-to-my-stomach, 08:53:41 04/07/03 Mon
    • Mostel gets zero right -- henry, 13:15:20 04/08/03 Tue
  • April Fools -- Gerry, 15:19:09 04/05/03 Sat

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• Changes at Philly's second talk station, WABC: Monica Crowley 6-7PM, Michael Savage 7 - 9PM, ABC's Larry Elder 9 - 10PM (New York Clearance! raise the ad rates, ABC!!) Richard Bey is gone. Well, he was a liberal. Maybe if he'd whined less. Funny. I want Alan Colmes to be more of a liberal because he can articulate his positions without whining. Yet every other liberal talk show hosts fails the 'whine' factor. Shame we don't have Colmes accessible on the radio down here. -- Scott 'what, me opinionated?' Tilde, 18:48:09 04/07/03 Mon
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  • WHERE is Alan Colmes? -- Bubbles, 00:19:55 04/08/03 Tue
    • Colmes's current syndicated show is quite good as well, and Tilde's right-on about the whine-test: Alan doesn't, and that's a big reason why I respect him so much, even as I vehemently disagree with him. ;) (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (See? Liberals CAN make it in talk!), 00:58:01 04/08/03 Tue

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• Glenn Beck Responds to the NY Times Pro-Troop Rally 'Right Wing Conspiracy' Article -- Scott Tilde, 17:45:24 04/07/03 Mon
  Glenn Beck writes a letter to the editor of the New York Times in response to the Clear Channel pro-troop rally 'right wing conspiracy' article. Credit Cheap Channel with degrading radio, but attributing the proliferation of pro-troop rallies to them is simply another attempt to belittle the true genesis of the rallies a.k.a. the listeners and independent hosts. The thinking classes understand what happened here. Getting The New York Times to be comfortable with it might be damned near impossible.
  
  Note: The link is to the New York Times website. Registration may be required, but it's free and, at least when I registered, spam-free.
  
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• Hannity In Philly -- Uncle Sam, 09:07:11 02/24/03 Mon
  Now that Sean Hannity IS comming to WPHT, which local show gets the boot? Has to be either Jeff Katz or Dom Giordano. Sad, sad, sad. What are they thinking over there?
  

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  • Actually, they're canning EVERYBODY...it'll be all Hannity around the clock...except for the two hours of O'Reilly... (NT) -- Jim "What, Me Cynical" Walsh, 22:32:23 02/25/03 Tue
  • I'd rather hear ANYBODY than Dom Giordano -- Greg Stone, 17:16:30 04/04/03 Fri

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• Snopes.com and Phil Hendrie -- MD, 12:14:01 04/04/03 Fri
  Check it out:
  
  Claim: A Corona, California, man sued Secretary of Homeland SecurityTom Ridge for emotional distress after duct-taping his "privates."
  
  Status: False.
  Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2003]
  
  
  Man Sues Tom Ridge Over Duct Tape Fears
  
  Corona, CA - Tom Ridge's advice to Americans to stock up on duct tape and plastic has sparked a lawsuit which has been filed against him, the Department of Homeland Security and President George W. Bush.
  
  Steven J. Bosell, the owner of B & B Construction in Corona, California, has filed a lawsuit claiming emotional distress, personal injury and sexual disfunction after he wrapped his "privates" in duct tape to protect them from a biological attack.
  
  "After watching Mr. Ridge on television advising us to stock up on duct tape and plastic, I went to the local Costco and bought $100 worth of duct tape to protect myself", Bosell said. "When I got home, I taped up my windows and doors. After I did that I realized if survivors like myself are going to reproduce and populate the Earth after a biological attack, we have to protect our privates as well."
  
  Bosell claimed in his lawsuit he wrapped his "privates" in duct tape as test of "Homeland Security". When he tried to remove the tape, Bosell injured himself when the tape began peeling off skin and body hair. After calling an ambulance, Bosell was taken to the hospital where the doctors and nurses laughed at him.
  
  "I told the doctors and nurses at the hospital if they laughed, I would file a lawsuit against them and the hospital. They laughed anyways and I now have another lawsuit pending" Bosell said with tears streaming down his face. "They went out their way to make me look like a fool. Once I saw the doctors scalpel go toward my privates, I totally lost it and blacked out".
  
  Also named in the lawsuit is the President of the United States, George W. Bush. "President Bush is just as liable for injury to my reproductive future because he hired Mr. Ridge to run the Department of Homeland Security and Mr. Ridge gave the nation bad advice. They also make me look like a fool." Bosell sobbed.
  
  
  
  Origins: No resident of Corona, California, filed a lawsuit against Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge for emotional distress after duct-taping his "privates." This piece is a spoof of the craze set off during the "Code Orange" security alert in February 2003 by the advice for U.S. residents to have duct tape and plastic sheeting on hand to create sealed-off environments in their homes in case of chemical or biological attack, as well as a jab as litigious cranks who file all sorts of frivolous lawsuits.
  
  Steven Bosell, putative owner of B & B Construction in Corona, California, is a fictional creation of talk radio host Phil Hendrie. Hendrie's stock in trade is inventing outrageous "guests" with whom he converses on his show (the guests are actually voiced by Hendrie himself), and one of his recurring characters is Steven Bosell, owner of B & B Construction, who regularly "appears" on Hendrie's show to discuss his latest loony lawsuit.
  
  http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/bosell.asp
  
  
  I love Phil Hendrie's show.
  

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  • I guess I can cancel that boat order now. I hope it's not too late to get my deposit back. I don't mind being fooled into joining that class action suit. The painful part was pulling off the tape. (NT) -- Surf, 14:38:34 04/04/03 Fri

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• You Say You Wanna Boycott: Savage vs GLAAD -- Tilde, 14:30:12 03/13/03 Thu
  Forget about French boycotts. Those companies just have the disadvantage of being under the wrong flag right now. No, the companies to boycott are the truly spineless, evil wimps: Now I can't get that Dell computer I was going to pick up. Looks like the cowards at Dell and Procter & Gamble have backed out of sponsoring Michael Savage's MSNBC show - and they weren't even specifically sponsoring the show, but apparently they instructed MSNBC not to run their ads during the Savage broadcast. Why? Because the tender ears of GLAAD (Gays Lashing out Against Accurate Discourse) can't tolerate any speech that might question their 'gays are always persecuted and always the underdogs and we won't stop until you admit that heterosexuality is a cop-out and is going out of style...' agenda. What are they afraid of? A weak case that people might not buy into if it was disputed often enough?
  
  Christ, what are gays, 2 - 5% of the population tops? What the hell is wrong with the spineless morons at these companies anyway? They believe what GLAAD is alleging? Have they ever listened to Savage? This GLAAD group wouldn't be able to articulate the truth if it was shoved headfirst up their... well, let me get to the point here before Surf electronically flushes this...
  
  According to a story at advocate.com (the website of the gay-oriented The Advocate), the following companies have stated that they will not support Savage's program: Procter & Gamble, Dell Computer Corporation, Casual Male, Idea Village, Cole Media Group, and the Sharper Image, Kraft Foods and General Mills.
  
  Supposedly this is due to their being informed, courtesy of GLAAD, of Savage's "attacks on women, people of color, immigrants, and gay men and lesbians." People of color?? What the F is that? If you could see my usually-pink face right now, you'd call me a 'person of color', but I don't think that's what these offensive simpletons had in mind.
  
  At any rate, if you want to boycott someone who richly needs to be boycotted, don't worry about the Frenchies. They'll be paying for their particular brand of graft-driven arrogance for years to come. (Won't it be rich when we're deconstructing the French-Iraq business relationship from the US Directorate in Rumsfeld City [formerly Baghdad])
  
  No, these slimy, spineless excuses for companies, these impediments to free speech, these principle challenged weasils have it coming. Sorry, Dell. I've gotta go find out if Gateway has a spine. I already know where you go down.. - I mean 'come down', on this issue.
  
  I have to go take a cold bath now. See you Sunday at Valley Forge.
  

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  • I guess nobody knows who Savage is. Gosh, I love Philly radio.... (NT) -- ., 11:02:35 03/21/03 Fri
  • I've had it -- 1210er, 07:37:27 03/22/03 Sat
    • Finally! Some Reaction! Granted, Not The Best Specimen We Could Have Come Up With, But We Have To Start Somewhere! -- Scott Tilde, 21:28:59 03/22/03 Sat
      • Great post Scott !! Gays who travel now have far more to worry about being an American than being gay. How's that for paranoia?! (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 10:09:31 04/04/03 Fri
      • Found this article with some Savage quotes. There's undoubtedly a lot of hyperbole here. But still, some of these quotes are pretty astounding. He sure has the constitutional right to say whatever he wants. He does not have the constitutional right to be sponsored by Proctor & Gamble. -- Rockford, 13:28:53 04/04/03 Fri
  • Amusing... these companies make a decision to boycott Savage. You get mad at them for boycotting, and what do you suggest as a reaction? A boycott. Personally, I think the companies AND you are both right: you've decided not spend your money to support things you disagree with. Sounds like the American way to me. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Can I boycott boycotts?), 10:07:02 03/23/03 Sun
    • I think my motivations are purer! (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 11:09:32 03/24/03 Mon
      • So do they. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Recursion is fun!), 03:26:52 03/25/03 Tue
        • The companies don't necessarily agree or disagree; they just avoid controversy. So while my stand is based on my principles and what I believe is right, the 'fraidy-cat advertisers' bailout is based on fear. Fear of diminished sales maybe, but fear nonetheless. So by showing the companies that merely avoiding the situation does not automatically shield them from a negative sales impact, they may be forced to confront the issues. And wouldn't ~that~ be fun to watch! (NT) -- Tilde from MontCo, 14:43:16 03/25/03 Tue
          • Not completely sure, but that might be the silliest thing I've seen here. You want to boycott companies for NOT sponsoring a show. Let's all let that sink it for a minute shall we? Maybe we should also insist that that pay double the normal rate in order to avoid this boycott. Better yet, lets just insist that they send Savage the money directly, and sell the time to somebody else! (NT) -- Rockford- (whew), 15:10:35 03/25/03 Tue
            • 'Whew' is right. If this is over your head, when we start debating war specifics over the next few weeks, your head's positively gonna explode. Just as a refresher course, the companies concerned here actively requested that their previously scheduled ads not be run during Savage in response to threats by GLAAD. This was not an act of omission, but commission. Feel better now? I didn't think so. (NT) -- The Tilde Files, 17:24:15 03/25/03 Tue
              • I'm still not sure why you care what copanies do? Do you fear being fired? I don't think Burger King will mind you voicing your oppinion. (NT) -- 1210er, 07:16:58 04/01/03 Tue
                • And you should be thankful that Wal-Mart doesn't require you to be able to spell (NT) -- Sam Walton, 12:01:45 04/01/03 Tue
                • It's like this: Companies pull ads from show taking on hypocritical BSers, due to pressure from same hypocritical group which distorts truth to push agenda, and then whines 'discrimination" when people don't buy into the hypocrisy. Show puncturing hypocrisy goes away, group lives on to whine "discrimination" another day. You want that? I don't. Pussy-ass companies could care less, taking path of least resistance. Plan: make path of least resistance look less attractive. (NT) -- Scott "attempting to 'splain it all to you" Tilde, 00:46:29 04/02/03 Wed

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• A great article about Bush and this "war" -- richiep, 13:35:21 04/03/03 Thu
  From: http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20030320-75800736.htm
  
  A reckless path
  
  Paul Craig Roberts
  
  We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy.
  — U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, U.S. representative to the International Conference on Military Trials, Aug. 12, 1945.
  
  Will Bush be impeached? Will he be called a war criminal? These are not hyperbolic questions. Mr. Bush has permitted a small cadre of neoconservatives to isolate him from world opinion, putting him at odds with the United Nations and America's allies.
  What better illustrates Mr. Bush's isolation than the fact that he delivered his March 16 ultimatum to the U.N. concerning Iraq from an air base in the Azores, where there was no prospect for massive demonstrations against his policy. Standing with Mr. Bush against the world were Britain and Spain.
  The U.S., once a guarantor of peace, is now perceived in the rest of the world as an aggressor. Its victim is a small Muslim nation unable to defend its own air space, much less to project power beyond its borders. If Iraqis attempt to resist invasion, they will be slaughtered.
  On the eve of Mr. Bush's ultimatum, it came to light that a key piece of evidence used by the Bush administration to link Iraq to a nuclear weapons program is a forgery. Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, has asked the FBI to investigate the origin of the forged documents that the Bush administration used to make its case that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction.
  Secretary of State Colin Powell denies that the Bush administration created the phony documents. "It came from other sources," Mr. Powell told Congress, but he could not identify the source.
  As George Santayana said, "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it." The administration's use of forged evidence opens Mr. Bush to unflattering comparisons that his enemies will not hesitate to make. They will point out that it was Adolf Hitler's strategy to fabricate evidence in order to justify his invasion of a helpless country. He used S.S. troops dressed in Polish uniforms to fake an attack on the German radio station at Gleiwitz on Aug. 31, 1939. Following the faked attack, Hitler announced: "This night for the first time Polish regular soldiers fired on our own territory." As German troops poured into Poland, Hitler declared: "The Polish state has refused the peaceful settlement of relations which I desired, and has appealed to arms." The German High Command called the German invasion of Poland a "counterattack."
  Thanks to his neoconservative cadre, outside the U.S. Mr. Bush is now a disliked and distrusted politician. Mr. Bush's enemies will exploit parallels to "naked aggression." After many decades of U.S. leadership in building an "international order," Mr. Bush's enemies will hold him accountable for his defiance of this order.
  As much as those of us who prefer national sovereignty to world government lament the fact, the many decades of appealing to "world opinion" and enlisting it in behalf of our foreign policies has resulted in considerable authority being poured into that nebulous concept. In setting Mr. Bush in opposition to this American creation, neoconservatives have exposed him to serious charges. Democrats, who intended to use allegations about the 2000 Florida vote to destroy Mr. Bush's presidency as illegitimate, now have more deadly ammunition.
  Mr. Rockefeller will not be the only one to ask if the forged nuclear documents are part of a Bush administration campaign to deceive the public. Polls show that 50 percent of Americans believe it was Iraqis who hijacked the airplanes and crashed them into the World Trade Towers and Pentagon. Inattention or media incompetence are the likely explanations for this extraordinary misinformation, but some will now blame deception.
  Others are already thinking the forged documents are part of a neoconservative campaign to deceive President Bush and win his support for their Middle Eastern policy.
  Many perceive Mr. Bush as following a reckless path, one that politicians normally try to avoid at all costs. If Iraq resists and devastating new explosives, which our military has been testing at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, are dropped on Baghdad, there will be massive civilian deaths and charges of war crimes fueled by anger at American arrogance.
  Mr. Bush and his advisers have forgotten that the power of an American president is temporary and relative. The U.S. is supposed to be the world's leader. For the Bush administration to pursue a policy that sets the U.S. government at odds with the world is to invite comparisons with recklessness that we have not seen in international politics since Nikita Khrushchev tried to install nuclear missiles in Cuba. Is Saddam Hussein worth this much grief?
  
  
  Paul Craig Roberts is a nationaly syndicated columnist.
  

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• I'm Against The War -- Jim Walsh, 23:33:47 03/27/03 Thu
  I think this war is a mistake. I'm not a Communist, a pacifist, or an America-hater. I don't burn flags and I don't lie down in traffic to make my point. I just think this particular war at this particular time is a terrible mistake. I say this because I'm tired of the ad hominem attacks (by people who assume I'm some kinda Commie rat) or the straw-man attacks (by people who try to discredit the opposition to this war by singling out it's worst elements). Unfortunately, demagoguery is as American as apple pie - and talk radio (in some cases) is among the worst offenders.
  
  Just wanted to speak my piece. Thank you...
  

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  • OK, Jim - Why is war at this point a mistake, and what would you do to solve the Saddam Hussein problem instead of going to war? (NT) -- Scott Tilde, 00:10:04 03/28/03 Fri
  • Why War with Iraq is not the smartest thing..... -- Sam (Bucks County), 11:46:52 03/28/03 Fri
    • You make good arguments, but... -- "Vince From Villanova" (And no, you're not un-American.), 01:49:03 03/29/03 Sat
    • I suppose the 22 nuclear bombs that we found Saddam with from a tip from his son-in-law were just to decorate the palaces, eh? Of course he had his son-in-law shot while welcoming back with "all is forgiven." ....(click to continue) -- SurveyGuy, 22:37:44 03/29/03 Sat
      • Okay, I'm pro-war, but I'm also pro-facts. Where in tarnation did you read that Sadaam once had 22 nuclear bombs? Not even ultra-liberal Peter Jennings would bury THAT one... (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Maybe I missed something, but...), 02:01:57 03/30/03 Sun
        • I forget who I heard discussing Saddam and his history a few weeks ago -- maybe it was Tim Russert -- maybe not. That was one of the items that flew by that caught my attention. Maybe I should search for the details. They might have "only" been warheads. I'll get back to you. (NT) -- SG, 17:53:01 03/30/03 Sun
        • OK -- that discussion went pretty fast. From what I can tell it was 122 nuclear-capable missles (which we had destroyed) and an active secret nuclear program running at full steam. The point is still the same. Some rumors of underwater uncoupled nuclear tests to hide seismo evidence. (NT) -- SurveyGuy (getting back as promised), 10:19:17 03/31/03 Mon
          • Made-Up Stories -- Harry Kalish, 15:01:36 03/31/03 Mon
            • Real Stories -- Scott Tilde, 23:53:11 03/31/03 Mon
      • My point is not whether we should be fighting those who attacked us, my point is where we should be fighting them... (more) -- Sam (Bucks County), 18:07:42 03/31/03 Mon
        • You're partially right, but... -- "Vince From Villanova" (I love this... it's making my brain sweat!), 04:08:26 04/01/03 Tue
  • Sam's response is pretty much on the mark. (NT) -- Jim Walsh, 13:49:45 03/28/03 Fri
  • It seems to boil down to one simple question... -- Rockford, 16:18:46 03/28/03 Fri
    • One "Simple" Question, One Complex Answer -- Scott Tilde, 23:10:57 03/31/03 Mon
  • SUPPORT OUR TROOPS -- Kenny, 18:10:26 03/30/03 Sun
    • Fear thought and dissent too. You left that out. (NT) -- Noam Chomsky, 18:22:18 03/30/03 Sun
      • The above post is not linguist Chomsky, even though the poster faked his email address. It was posted from a PA Comcast backbone. Mumia supporter Chomsky (the real one) has no credibility any more. Don't bother to reply to the supplied (fake) email and changeable handle. The real Chomsky is now emeritus and not living in PA. (NT) -- Just saving someone the embarrassment if the address is live., 10:34:14 03/31/03 Mon
    • America, love it or leave it? Sorry, but disagreeing with America's policies does not mean you don't love America. Try actually READING Jim and Sam's posts. These guys DO love the USA. Don't automatically lump them in with the nut-job protestors that are shutting down NYC and staging vomit-ins in San-Fran. (NT) -- "Vince From Villanova" (Good people can disagree, folks...), 01:43:29 03/31/03 Mon

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